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Sugarfree
05-12-2006, 08:05 PM
Why men cheat? Go here for the details:

http://health.yahoo.com/experts/menlovesex/2/why-men-cheat

excerpt:

To Fulfill His Biology: You know the old anthropological tale. A man's main job, besides killing the saber-tooth, is to spread his seed in order to ensure the survival of his genetic legacy. It's a man's biology to want to wander. Does that mean he should, or that he can't help it? Of course not. But it does mean that a man is going to have strong-extremely strong-biological urges to knock on the doors of neighboring huts. I have had this argument/discussion/conversation with dozens of men and women: Are men predestined to cheat? My answer is no, they're not-despite their biology. But often times, they do have to fight it. Especially after a pitcher and two shots of Jack.

lynndhia
05-12-2006, 08:24 PM
actually, i think that all males generally are sexually promiscuous, some married men restrain themselves of the fear of losing their family, while some are risk takers who enjoy the thrill.

the K.I.S.S. answer that why men cheat is sex, a better answer would be to satisfy their ego needs. Young girls will show the male tat they're still attractive and therefore higher up in the pecking order

why men are generally promiscuous? i think that it's just biological :p

Ullas Sahadevan
05-12-2006, 08:50 PM
actually, i think that all males generally are sexually promiscuousWell, that would mostly be the case. But I'm just thinking aloud here, what would you classify the large number of women they are mating with as? not promiscuous? :)

tntn73
05-12-2006, 09:30 PM
actually, i think that all males generally are sexually promiscuous, some married men restrain themselves of the fear of losing their family, while some are risk takers who enjoy the thrill.


Get REAL, I DO NOT think that the majority of married men are unfaithful have you had any first hand experience on that?? the word you've used shouldn't only pertain to men and aren't women promiscuous in the past or CURRENTLY promiscuous themselves if they get into a relationship with a promiscuous partner??

isarahim
05-12-2006, 10:11 PM
I don't think one should confuse cheating with being promiscuous.

Being promiscuous means having many partners. I think that's ok in itself as long as no one is or will be suffering. As far as I'm concerned, being promiscuous is pretty childish, but ok for those that are borne like that it's ok as long as they're responsible about it, i.e. no one is or will be suffering. I actually think promiscusity is pretty equal among the sexes. I don't see a woman being promiscuous as worse or better than a man being it.

Cheating means breaching a contract of trust. Someone is or will be suffering. Sometimes more than one will be suffering through the deeds of one. That's absolutely horrific and inexcusable.

BTW, a lot of this might have something to do with beer goggles:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/manchester/4468884.stm

Wong Sang
05-12-2006, 10:21 PM
actually, i think that all males generally are sexually promiscuous, some married men restrain themselves of the fear of losing their family, while some are risk takers who enjoy the thrill.

the K.I.S.S. answer that why men cheat is sex, a better answer would be to satisfy their ego needs. Young girls will show the male tat they're still attractive and therefore higher up in the pecking order

why men are generally promiscuous? i think that it's just biological :p

Don't generalize. Perhaps you have met all the 'wrong men' and are still meeting all the 'wrong men'.

Wong Sang
05-12-2006, 10:36 PM
Young girls will show the male tat they're still attractive and therefore higher up in the pecking order.

I have actually come across many young women who neither believe nor behave that way. Then perhaps I have met all the 'right' women.

:rolleyes:

Nikki 2
05-12-2006, 10:39 PM
Woh...u guys are all hitting on Lyndia..
She`s young, u know so could be easily led on... by Dirty old or `young` men that their marriage is on the rocks...etc...so gullible n caring young girls just fall for it...SIMPLE!!!

Not promiscuous...more like INFIDELITY!!!
Yes...more than one party gets hurt but what do they care...live life to the max...one life, so must do everything..then maybe worry...maybe not...depends on individual.....sigh...

Anyway, man cheat but the third party allows it...maybe she is desperate...can`t find a man of her own or bored to tears...sounds familiar like something out of `Desperate Housewives` where one of them was the `Community Whore`...anyone caught that series???...Well...she got caught n he got a Heart Attack...n died. That`s Hollywood...heh heh heh :D

tntn73
05-12-2006, 10:57 PM
Woh...u guys are all hitting on Lyndia..
She`s young, u know so could be easily led on... by Dirty old or `young` men that their marriage is on the rocks...etc...so gullible n caring young girls just fall for it...SIMPLE!!!


Woho!! Seems like you're the one hitting it the hardest and how would you know so darn much?? Headache headache time to hit the sack!!

Nikki 2
05-12-2006, 11:04 PM
Btw...a good romp in the sack is good for headaches...haven`t u heard???

Of course....i know!...someone close to me had first hand experience...still bleeding in her heart but alas...she has to lick her wounds all by herself...but she`s a tough one...she will survive!!!

So who else had heard, seen or had first hand experience??? Please share :p

kwchang
05-12-2006, 11:44 PM
Perhaps most of you have never come across this type of discussion before. In a nutshell, it tries to explain why males tend to have multiple partners whereas females are monogamous.

If you may allow me, let us look at a man who have no sociological or evolutionary developments and still retain this primeal urge...

a) The genetic theory is that animals need to procreate in large numbers in order to survive the hazards of nature, such as being hunted and eaten by wild animals or succumb to diseases. Hence, the promiscuous male of the successful species have been selected naturally because they were promiscuous and had successfully impregnated many females.

b) The females cannot afford to be promiscuous because they have to bear with a gestation period, ie carry the child in the womb. This is a stressful responsibility and the females who are promiscuous would risk miscarriages and thus such traits would die off, leaving less promiscuous females to sucessfully survive and breed more females with less promiscuous traits.

The simple analogy will give you a logical reason why most males tend to have multiple partners and not females.

Of course in modern days, with less risks like being eaten or killed by disease, the need to be promiscuous would reverse.

Sugarfree
05-12-2006, 11:53 PM
Btw...a good romp in the sack is good for headaches...haven`t u heard???
Yup. And better still if there's one in the middle of the night...hehehe.... :D :p

kokomo
06-12-2006, 01:00 AM
Waaa ... seems like this topic is more for married ppl eh ... so single men can be let out? Single'ma, no committment at all. Live life to the fullest! Heheh .. am I right? Or it should not be that way?

Sugarfree
06-12-2006, 01:23 AM
Waaa ... seems like this topic is more for married ppl eh ... so single men can be let out? Single'ma, no committment at all...
Hehehe..why don't you start a thread on single men enjoying flings with married ladies, eh? :eek: :D It has come to my knowledge such liaisons do exist but thankfully not on a big scale....urmm...I think... ;)

kokomo
06-12-2006, 01:32 AM
Hehehe..why don't you start a thread on single men enjoying flings with married ladies, eh? :eek: :D It has come to my knowledge such liaisons do exist but thankfully not on a big scale....urmm...I think... ;)

Such things happen centuries ago. From stoneage our of great great great grandparents till now. Is there really a need to open a new thread? Heheh .. just stick on in here'lah. Cont. from where we have stop. Married couples having marriage problems. Proclaiming men cheats. So what bout men being cheated by women? Is that a small or big issue?

Sugarfree
06-12-2006, 01:42 AM
...So what bout men being cheated by women? Is that a small or big issue?
Sometimes women cheat because of urmmm..."a small issue"... :p :D

kokomo
06-12-2006, 01:55 AM
Sometimes women cheat because of urmmm..."a small issue"... :p :D

Hahah ... we men knows well, why women cheat as well. Vice versa on women knowing why men cheat. So happily married, if you think it would be, do consider and reflex back all the pros and cons.

Aiseh! Am not married yet but posting like an old man. Sheeesshhh!!!

vivacious
06-12-2006, 08:33 AM
Men are enthusiastic about women. Not all men, and not all to the same degree, obviously.But by and large you are a subject we find fascinating in a way that even beer and football can't match. :D women are multi- faceted, they can be enigmatic,maddening,horny, humorous. ;)

jeffchua
06-12-2006, 08:49 AM
Why men cheat? [/I]

Why men cheat?Easy, because we dont want to break the women's heart(their hearts are the softest in the world).....
Now i hope u all know that sometimes we cheat are for women's own good.... :)

Wong Sang
06-12-2006, 08:54 AM
Men are enthusiastic about women. Not all men, and not all to the same degree, obviously.But by and large you are a subject we find fascinating in a way that even beer and football can't match. :D women are multi- faceted, they can be enigmatic,maddening,horny, humorous. ;)

Vivacious. Very interesting observation indeed about women being multi-faceted. You could be right and that is a compliment. Can I present a real time scenario to you for discussion? I know this man called Augustine for a very long time....

Augustine is 62. He is just a very ordinary man. He is neither good looking nor hideously ugly. He is thin and his grey hair is thining. He is a retiree and he is hardly well off. He takes public transport (now I am not saying that all people who take public transport are not well off). He lives in a small apartment in one of the Goodyear Courts. He is quite intelligent. He doesn't play sports as he has a weak heart. He suffered from a mild stroke when he was in his early 50s. He is not an exciting man. He doesn't go to bars, pubs or expensive restaurants. He dresses very simply. He is a widower without any children. Just a very ordinary man living a very ordinary life.

Soo Ying is 34. She holds a senior managerial position in one of the multi-national companies. She is a professional and an expert in what she does and it is a rare field of expertise. She is earning some RM18k a month. She is tall. She is elegant. She is incredibly beautiful. She is well cultured and she is highly intelligent. She goes scuba diving, she plays tennis and she plays squash. She lives in a condominium in the city. Her social circle consists of high fliers in the corporate world and she is a good friend of some of the outrageous and highly intelligent DJs in town (this is to illustrate her social circle).

Soo Ying would have nobody else in her life but Augustine.

This is a true story. Please do not flame this and turn it into a Mickey Mouse circus. I welcome views because Augustine asked me a number of times what Soo Ying sees in him and I really could not reply except murmuring that he is a good and kind man.

kfboy
06-12-2006, 08:58 AM
Most men who cheat are looking for thrills in their lives. Not because they do not treasure their existing families.

eg. Most prominent businessmen have "extended" families (that only shows up in funeral). I am not against all rich people. The point I am trying to explain is these people find thrills in RISK and able to gamble big in business to become filty rich. When they find money no longer give them excitement, they look for something else in life to fill the gaps.

Men are always looking for uncertainties in life.

kokomo
06-12-2006, 09:07 AM
Wong Sang, I know few guys like Augustine and I guess many of us men also wondering the same question. At the same time, wish we other men are as lucky as Augustine.

Can tell us what's the main point of bringing in Augustine into the pic here? Somehow, I just can't relate it to men cheat in here. Or is it the other way round, full story is not out yet, Augustine found out that Soo Ying is cheating on him? Hmmm .... tell'lar ...

kfboy
06-12-2006, 09:12 AM
Wong Sang, are those their real name? Hope not.

I believe Soo Ying at that age, with the good career wants someone stable in relationship to rely on.

No doubt SY has many high-position friends but maybe she does see through them as one that would keep second wives?

There could be many reasons why SY choose Aug. Eg Aug may have similarity to SY's father (father-daugher relationship usually is the closest or Mother-son) or SY was hurt by someone her age. Only she knows ( I have no crystal ball to tell the truth but only Liquid Crystal Display to google)

Wong Sang
06-12-2006, 09:13 AM
Wong Sang, I know few guys like Augustine and I guess many of us men also wondering the same question. At the same time, wish we other men are as lucky as Augustine.

Can tell us what's the main point of bringing in Augustine into the pic here? Somehow, I just can't relate it to men cheat in here. Or is it the other way round, full story is not out yet, Augustine found out that Soo Ying is cheating on him? Hmmm .... tell'lar ...

I suddenly thought of Augustine's case when Vivacious mentioned about women being multi-faceted. I know it is not directly related to the topic of the thread but perhaps if we expand our discussion a bit, then it may indirectly answer our question as to why men cheat because it is all about relationships. There is no 'cheating' involved in this case. Augustine and Soo Ying are still together.

jeffchua
06-12-2006, 09:17 AM
There could be many reasons why SY choose Aug.

Maybe Soog Ying was heavily hurted by her ex before.....

jack12
06-12-2006, 09:18 AM
It is his luck.

Vivacious. Very interesting observation indeed about women being multi-faceted. You could be right and that is a compliment. Can I present a real time scenario to you for discussion? I know this man called Augustine for a very long time....

Augustine is 62. He is just a very ordinary man. He is neither good looking nor hideously ugly. He is thin and his grey hair is thining. He is a retiree and he is hardly well off. He takes public transport (now I am not saying that all people who take public transport are not well off). He lives in a small apartment in one of the Goodyear Courts. He is quite intelligent. He doesn't play sports as he has a weak heart. He suffered from a mild stroke when he was in his early 50s. He is not an exciting man. He doesn't go to bars, pubs or expensive restaurants. He dresses very simply. He is a widower without any children. Just a very ordinary man living a very ordinary life.

Soo Ying is 34. She holds a senior managerial position in one of the multi-national companies. She is a professional and an expert in what she does and it is a rare field of expertise. She is earning some RM18k a month. She is tall. She is elegant. She is incredibly beautiful. She is well cultured and she is highly intelligent. She goes scuba diving, she plays tennis and she plays squash. She lives in a condominium in the city. Her social circle consists of high fliers in the corporate world and she is a good friend of some of the outrageous and highly intelligent DJs in town (this is to illustrate her social circle).

Soo Ying would have nobody else in her life but Augustine.

This is a true story. Please do not flame this and turn it into a Mickey Mouse circus. I welcome views because Augustine asked me a number of times what Soo Ying sees in him and I really could not reply except murmuring that he is a good and kind man.

Wong Sang
06-12-2006, 09:18 AM
Wong Sang, are those their real name? Hope not.

No. Not their real names.

vivacious
06-12-2006, 09:18 AM
At the end of the scale from the man who sees a relationship as a religious experience is the sexual opportunist. He's always looking at women because is he;s constantly on the alert for a conquest. Men like these - male tarts, serial sex cheats, call them what u will- do exist.His look is predatory, hungry, like a tiger eyeing a tasty hunk of meat. He is speculating about sexual possibilities.

flowi
06-12-2006, 09:33 AM
SY sees security and Augustine treated SY with respect! Another reason why men cheat is because their wives from Kelantan and they cover up! Thats another sick topic! If I remained in Kelantan ...... I will die of exhaustion coz i cheat non stop!

kokomo
06-12-2006, 09:34 AM
I suddenly thought of Augustine's case when Vivacious mentioned about women being multi-faceted. I know it is not directly related to the topic of the thread but perhaps if we expand our discussion a bit, then it may indirectly answer our question as to why men cheat because it is all about relationships. There is no 'cheating' involved in this case. Augustine and Soo Ying are still together.

Well, I too have known few other ladies that a much more interested with men much much older than them. Why is that? Security sake? I don't think so. Men are the same. Before they want old man? Probably. They want experience but under performance? Hahah ... I really don't know.

kokomo
06-12-2006, 09:37 AM
SY sees security and Augustine treated SY with respect! Another reason why men cheat is because their wives from Kelantan and they cover up! Thats another sick topic! If I remained in Kelantan ...... I will die of exhaustion coz i cheat non stop!

Haha ... I thought if men can get wives from Kelantan, they you be grateful for it? Yes? No?

vivacious
06-12-2006, 09:38 AM
[Another reason why men cheat is because their wives from Kelantan and they cover up! Thats another sick topic! If I remained in Kelantan ...... I will die of exhaustion coz i cheat non stop![/QUOTE]

hmmmm.. now there;s a thought :rolleyes:

AllUrban
06-12-2006, 09:40 AM
funny that when men cheat, they are just satisfying biological urges, can be dismissed as immature, pigs, bums, etc.

but when a woman cheats...obviously there must be something wrong with the man :p

Hey...what happened to equality :confused: :D ...people cheat because they see the opportunity and take it...and probably because they dont think they will get caught, are unaware of the possibility, or dont care.

Women and men cheat, equally for biological reasons.

We all know about males "spreading their seed" for biological diversity and probability...but females will cheat to catch a more healthy, genetically (and therefore, sexually) superior specimen...but at the same time, they know he will run off, and copulate with other females...

So the females are smart...they also bond themselves to a less healthy, less genetically (and less sexually superior) specimen....because they know he will stay and support them....and the offspring...who may or may not be his

there is the reason why some women like 'bad boys' :p

Cheers, m

vivacious
06-12-2006, 09:44 AM
A men can be momentarily transfixed by the seductive swing of a women's hair , or the shape of a perfect mouth, without feeling an urgent need to exchange body fluids

jeffchua
06-12-2006, 09:44 AM
At the end of the scale from the man who sees a relationship as a religious experience is the sexual opportunist. He's always looking at women.....

U will know if u become a man for 1 day or u can ask all the men around u , Viva.....

When a chick nearby , we will automatically look at her , its just like somekind of biological affect or something... U girls cannot blame us , oh ya , its just like when u girls in shopping mall , u all just cannot walk past LV or whatever store like didnt see anything at all... :)

kokomo
06-12-2006, 09:53 AM
funny that when men cheat, they are just satisfying biological urges, can be dismissed as immature, pigs, bums, etc.

but when a woman cheats...obviously there must be something wrong with the man :p

Hey...what happened to equality :confused: :D ...people cheat because they see the opportunity and take it...and probably because they dont think they will get caught, are unaware of the possibility, or dont care.

Women and men cheat, equally for biological reasons.

We all know about males "spreading their seed" for biological diversity and probability...but females will cheat to catch a more healthy, genetically (and therefore, sexually) superior specimen...but at the same time, they know he will run off, and copulate with other females...

So the females are smart...they also bond themselves to a less healthy, less genetically (and less sexually superior) specimen....because they know he will stay and support them....and the offspring...who may or may not be his

there is the reason why some women like 'bad boys' :p

Cheers, m

LoL :) Well said! You've read thru me ....

Jeffchua, women does the same thing not only at LV but they do turn their eyes not the head to look at hunk around. Just don't know how they can shift their eyes so fast to look at men without turning their heads. Simply incredible. When they look at LV is like men looking at car accessories.

bobble
06-12-2006, 09:54 AM
UWhen a chick nearby , we will automatically look at her , its just like somekind of biological affect or something... U girls cannot blame us , oh ya , its just like when u girls in shopping mall , u all just cannot walk past LV or whatever store like didnt see anything at all... :)

You equate girls with chicks? That speaks volumes about you. Until people like you grow up and treat women with respect, don't expect women to take you seriously.

clutz4words
06-12-2006, 09:56 AM
U will know if u become a man for 1 day or u can ask all the men around u , Viva.....

When a chick nearby , we will automatically look at her , its just like somekind of biological affect or something... U girls cannot blame us , oh ya , its just like when u girls in shopping mall , u all just cannot walk past LV or whatever store like didnt see anything at all... :)

both Men & Women practices this lah...... seeing is not a crime.
it's just a normal chain of human reaction.

Don't u gals out there agree????

flowi
06-12-2006, 09:58 AM
U will know if u become a man for 1 day or u can ask all the men around u , Viva.....

When a chick nearby , we will automatically look at her , its just like somekind of biological affect or something... U girls cannot blame us , oh ya , its just like when u girls in shopping mall , u all just cannot walk past LV or whatever store like didnt see anything at all... :)

Jeff and viv ..... not only us men look at the ladies when they are nearby ... my girl frens look at men too and unbelievable comments flying around when they see a man (good looking man). A few of them are on long term relationship with elderly man (married) and they haf been together for a very long time ago. The main reason the relationship last for so long is simply because they felt secure, being treated like a lady and respected. Guys their age (30s) haf the attitude of "bang and thanks ma'am" ..... snore after the first round and just wanna "score till you sore" ...BUT if you can get a Kelantanese girl as your wife, your peers will be full of envy by observing the way you are treated as hubby!! You are the chosen one in the family lah!! I blame it on culture and peer pressure for this type of mentality (i mean the way the wife treat the hubby)..... seen how my fren managed to handle 3 wives and staying under one roof in Bachok (Kelantan)!! Just to fullfill his obligation as a hubby really drives me off the cliff let alone full-filling the wives desire!!! God.... give him strength and the STAMINA!

vivacious
06-12-2006, 10:00 AM
true i agree with u on that jeff. The whole business of looking at other women is fraught with dfficulty and danger. A train enthusiast can linger at crewe station indulging his passion by ogling every passing diesel. But looking at women and you are potentially- a voyeur, a pervert a womaniser.

flowi
06-12-2006, 10:04 AM
You equate girls with chicks? That speaks volumes about you. Until people like you grow up and treat women with respect, don't expect women to take you seriously.

Chick was used as a matter of expression .. STILL ... i personally dun agree and like to equate girls with chick, vege and so on and so on .... its just not a very nice things to say. Bet Jeff dint mean to be crude ..... he just go with the flow! aren't u Jeff???

flowi
06-12-2006, 10:07 AM
true i agree with u on that jeff. The whole business of looking at other women is fraught with dfficulty and danger. A train enthusiast can linger at crewe station indulging his passion by ogling every passing diesel. But looking at women and you are potentially- a voyeur, a pervert a womaniser.


Ouchhh!! cum on Viv ...... you actually labelled me as a potential pervert! No lah, joking only ... i also love to look at women that is pretty and attractive .. particularly enjoy observing the way they dressed, behave and their body language. Yo can tell the difference when a girl try to behave differently when she is having a crush on someone or have a soft spot for someone! It is just so bloody obvious she is not what she is at that time...

kokomo
06-12-2006, 10:14 AM
Most of us, I mean majority, don't really reveal what we are in front of others. As matter of leaving a good impression to others. As we get on to know others smoother, then we see and we've become a different person. Human do have changes and changes the most in behaviour. Call it fake or whatsoeva ... it's the fact.

vivacious
06-12-2006, 10:18 AM
The male instinct to look at women doesn't just stop because a man is in a fulfilling realtionship. You might catch your partner looking at a women on a topless beach in a way that hints at sexual curiosity. So what? if he had no sexual curiosity your sex life would be pretty dull, wouldn;t it? But the look is less likely to be sexual then it is to be innocently appreciative of a beautiful sight. We look at beautiful things. It is the same when a women walks into a jewellery store.

jeffchua
06-12-2006, 10:18 AM
Chick was used as a matter of expression .. STILL ... i personally dun agree and like to equate girls with chick, vege and so on and so on .... its just not a very nice things to say. Bet Jeff dint mean to be crude ..... he just go with the flow! aren't u Jeff???

Flowi right , dont misunderstood the word 'chick' ...In U.S , its mean pretty girl or beautiful girl or hotties ... U can heard these word in films....
I just go with the flow like Flowi .... ;)

Sugarfree
06-12-2006, 10:32 AM
(edited) Augustine is 62. He is just a very ordinary man. He is neither good looking nor hideously ugly...Soo Ying is 34. She holds a senior managerial position in one of the multi-national companies. She is a professional and an expert in what she does and it is a rare field of expertise. She would have nobody else in her life but Augustine...
1st & foremost, the story doesn't go with the topic which is about cheating. Having said that, I suppose a little deviation wouldn't hurt anyone, eh?

The way I look at it, I think she's must been hurt badly by a guy of her age group before. She fell in love with him, gave him her heart, soul, body and maybe even money, perhaps. Then she discovered he was cheating on her with a gorgeous babe almost half her age. She was repulsed, hurt, angry, and simply aghast at what happened. From then on, I reckon, she lost faith in guys of her age. Ausgustine belongs to the "safe" group. He is old, retired, has no money. In other words, chicks will not be heading in his direction anytime soon. Perfect company, minimal risk of getting hurt again, if at all. Besides, women are not all that crazy about sex all the time and that's certainly a blessing for the old fellas! :p :D

Just my 2centz. :)

jeffchua
06-12-2006, 10:37 AM
true i agree with u on that jeff. The whole business of looking at other women is fraught with dfficulty and danger. A train enthusiast can linger at crewe station indulging his passion by ogling every passing diesel. But looking at women and you are potentially- a voyeur, a pervert a womaniser.

U right , i could be a potential voyeur :D , but why some girls ( not all ) just like to dress sexilly even when they just walking on the street ...
Is it because they want the men to look at them ???? :confused:

vivacious
06-12-2006, 10:41 AM
yes jeff they do in fact. Well when u have em flaunt em! :) I on the other hand like to dress up but see where the venue is first .

Wong Sang
06-12-2006, 10:41 AM
SY sees security and Augustine treated SY with respect!

I think you have just mentioned the key word. Augustine treats Soo Ying with respect and he is always kind and understanding to her.

:)

Sugarfree
06-12-2006, 10:42 AM
...seen how my fren managed to handle 3 wives and staying under one roof in Bachok (Kelantan)!! Just to fullfill his obligation as a hubby really drives me off the cliff let alone full-filling the wives desire!!! God.... give him strength and the STAMINA!
Strength & stamina to satisfy the desires of 3 wives? :D It wouldn't be too difficult but I can't go into that here for obvious reasons. And, no, it doesn't necessarily have to do with the blue pill, ok! :p

Wong Sang
06-12-2006, 10:44 AM
Ausgustine belongs to the "safe" group. He is old, retired, has no money. In other words, chicks will not be heading in his direction anytime soon. Perfect company, minimal risk of getting hurt again, if at all. :D

Thank you for your views. On the contrary, many 'chicks' do go for Augustine. Now why is it that an aging man without looks and money can attract good and intelligent women?

Sugarfree
06-12-2006, 10:49 AM
Bet Jeff dint mean to be crude ..... he just go with the flow! aren't u Jeff???
Yup, I think Jeff didn't mean no disrespect for 'em ladies. It's just an expression to mean a girl. Street language la, that. I have personally heard ladies themselves referring to other girls as chicks (in a good way). So, there. :)

Ullas Sahadevan
06-12-2006, 11:20 AM
Jeffchua, women does the same thing not only at LV but they do turn their eyes not the head to look at hunk around. Just don't know how they can shift their eyes so fast to look at men without turning their heads. Simply incredible.Kokomo: You must be wondering how women can do that? The answer is again biological :) Women have 'peripheral vision' (almost 240 degrees), men have 'tunnel vision', that's why they have to really turn their head and make it look obvious ;)

vivacious
06-12-2006, 12:38 PM
If he is so in love with u why is he looking at other women?

pepsi
06-12-2006, 12:55 PM
Well, that would mostly be the case. But I'm just thinking aloud here, what would you classify the large number of women they are mating with as? not promiscuous? :)
Yup, I agree, women play a role in this too.
Don't mention the ones that work for the money, some (not for the money) even willingly be mistress although they know the men are married.
A case of not enough good men around ;)

Blue Jasmine
06-12-2006, 01:00 PM
Yup, I agree, women play a role in this too.
Don't mention the ones that work for the money, some (not for the money) even willingly be mistress although they know the men are married.
A case of not enough good men around ;)


I think the question why men cheat should be changed to why people cheat. Everybody cheats...if a men cheat the wife most probally there are another women outside thats the cheater ..so is all comes to a circle..who should be blame for that...Simple its everybody....

Blue Jasmine
06-12-2006, 01:05 PM
If he is so in love with u why is he looking at other women?


A men is never in love...a women is..Women heart can be like 100% for the family..lets look at the Men heart ---25% for the wife, 25% for friends, 25% for career, 25% for their secret hobbies or the normal hobbies (depend which type of men u happened to be yoked with)

please take note that GF falls under the secret hobbies..so if you are a married women better encourage your men to have a NORMAL hobbies.

Choon1980
06-12-2006, 01:27 PM
A men is never in love...a women is..Women heart can be like 100% for the family..lets look at the Men heart ---25% for the wife, 25% for friends, 25% for career, 25% for their secret hobbies or the normal hobbies (depend which type of men u happened to be yoked with)

please take note that GF falls under the secret hobbies..so if you are a married women better encourage your men to have a NORMAL hobbies.

Yes yes, that's right. Because all men are lying, cheating scumbags who think about nothing but themselves, aren't they? And all women are holy, faithful, innocent, and are always the victims here.

Seriously, if you women find all men to be that repulsive, why even bother falling in love and getting married in the first place? Form your own man-hating tribe of Amazons somewhere in the depths of the jungle where there's nothing but women all around. Then, no problems would be caused by men.

Haven't you thought that maybe, just MAYBE, that there actually are guys out there who really do care 100% for their girlfriend/wife and appreciate what they have?

jeffchua
06-12-2006, 01:30 PM
If he is so in love with u why is he looking at other women?

Comon , why a man cannot looking at other women when he in love ???
Are we gonna forget all women in the world when we in love???
U girls should give ur partner some space and dont always get cemburu too easy.... :)

ProCol
06-12-2006, 01:31 PM
A men is never in love...a women is...

Not all men are incapable of being in love right? I presume you mean falling in love and staying in love with the same partner. There are many good guys around here in this forum....should have some words of encouragement mah or else the guys' chance and good image would be reduced :D Maybe some guys are about to pair up leh.

tntn73
06-12-2006, 01:35 PM
Yes well said choon for all manknd I guess women who are married or with boyfriends have absolutely nothing to do not to be blamed when they dress scantily either so no blames just blame ourselves for being no good scumbags and heartless animals :D

jeffchua
06-12-2006, 01:40 PM
Because all men are lying, cheating scumbags who think about nothing but themselves, aren't they? And all women are holy, faithful, innocent, and are always the victims here.

Haven't you thought that maybe, just MAYBE, that there actually are guys out there who really do care 100% for their girlfriend/wife and appreciate what they have?

Dont said like we r like criminals....and not all women are so HOLY , FAITHFUL
and innocent...

Choon1980
06-12-2006, 01:45 PM
Dont said like we r like criminals....and not all women are so HOLY , FAITHFUL
and innocent...

That's the point I was trying to put across, mate...

ProCol
06-12-2006, 01:45 PM
If he is so in love with u why is he looking at other women?

My pastor once told me that human beings are made to be relational beings i.e. they are capable of relating to one another. However, this ability to relate is not confined to just one opposite sex or for some, of the same sex. Hence, extending from this proposition, it is from this ability to relate that gives rise to the opportunity for the relationship to be further developed perhaps into love. It's known that human can fall in love with more than one partner and this includes both male and female. It's just a matter of choice that keeps us loyal to our partner. I think looking at another member of the opposite sex when one is already in a relationship does not mean being unfaithful....I would look at Angelina Jolie if she's standing next to me...heck I may even look at Brad Pitt and think, "He's cool!" Looking doesn't necessarily has to be associated with erotic thoughts and thus unfaithfulness.

Blue Jasmine
06-12-2006, 01:50 PM
Not all men are incapable of being in love right? I presume you mean falling in love and staying in love with the same partner. There are many good guys around here in this forum....should have some words of encouragement mah or else the guys' chance and good image would be reduced :D Maybe some guys are about to pair up leh.


What i meant was falling in love and staying in love WITH PASSION with the partner. Doesnt matter if partner same or different. It means their passion will not be like having the passion for cars or etc

Blue Jasmine
06-12-2006, 01:56 PM
Comon , why a man cannot looking at other women when he in love ???
Are we gonna forget all women in the world when we in love???
U girls should give ur partner some space and dont always get cemburu too easy.... :)


women are very sensitive...its the same like how we(ladies) say that this man is really hunky and strong in front of our men. So start imagining the feeling...Ouch....

Choon1980
06-12-2006, 02:12 PM
women are very sensitive...its the same like how we(ladies) say that this man is really hunky and strong in front of our men. So start imagining the feeling...Ouch....

So long as she's not cheating on me, what's wrong if my girlfriend wants to look at other guys?

Boink
06-12-2006, 02:21 PM
eh from the last 3 threads, it would imply cheating is by merely looking at other gals walking by?

huh?

wha like that, I have been cheating since kindergarden already la.

can we at least define what is 'cheating' for the context of this discussion?

finally. Men dont cheat BECAUSE of another woman. They dont cheat BECAUSE the present gal is not good enough.

They just CHEAT because they CHEAT. and I wish women just get to the point and blame the man and not find excuses. Thats the truth. There is no because. If anyone has done it, then ther are responsible. and should be liable to face up to their actions.
Regardless if it a man or a woman.

jack10dd
06-12-2006, 02:33 PM
Cheating ? Innoncent till proven Guilty . Define cheating , pls !

ProCol
06-12-2006, 02:41 PM
women are very sensitive...its the same like how we(ladies) say that this man is really hunky and strong in front of our men. So start imagining the feeling...Ouch....

erm, I think sensitivity should be controlled as the relationship matures loh. I mean I would accept the fact if a huge muscular guy is doing an act which requires great strength and my gf comment on it coz that's the fact and it does not imply that she is not satisfied with who I am. If that guy's career is a body builder, I can't match him coz I have my own career and work to do. If she wants someone like that then she shouldn't be with me loh. So long my gf is not crazy over such guy like she's ready to jump out of her clothes then I think comment should be fine loh.

ProCol
06-12-2006, 02:52 PM
Cheating ? Innoncent till proven Guilty . Define cheating , pls !

Erm, maybe, a strong urge and desire to have more than one partner with the view or intention of flirting or engaging in a relationship which includes dating or being in love; or acting out the actions described.

not perfect and air tight....and I think the word partner and relationship is generally understood loh..
Whether one would want to include state of mind is up to them but i think the intention is quite crucial as we can probably mask our intention via our actions.

Blue Jasmine
06-12-2006, 02:59 PM
erm, I think sensitivity should be controlled as the relationship matures loh. I mean I would accept the fact if a huge muscular guy is doing an act which requires great strength and my gf comment on it coz that's the fact and it does not imply that she is not satisfied with who I am. If that guy's career is a body builder, I can't match him coz I have my own career and work to do. If she wants someone like that then she shouldn't be with me loh. So long my gf is not crazy over such guy like she's ready to jump out of her clothes then I think comment should be fine loh.


same lor..as long as my bf is not looking until all the drooling start or the eye keep staring at the same girl for too long...then should be fine lor. If he stare too long then of course as u said shouldnt be with me lor. :)

Sugarfree
06-12-2006, 03:11 PM
same lor..as long as my bf is not looking until all the drooling start or the eye keep staring at the same girl for too long...then should be fine lor. If he stare too long then of course as u said shouldnt be with me lor. :)
Perhaps as a guide, staring at another girl for more than 30 secs may probably spell trouble for the current relationship. I mean, 30 seconds is a long time to stare at someone unless you've somehow felt 'something' and feel compelled to do it despite yourself. :D Am I right or should I allocate 1 minute? :p

Blue Jasmine
06-12-2006, 03:23 PM
Perhaps as a guide, staring at another girl for more than 30 secs may probably spell trouble for the current relationship. I mean, 30 seconds is a long time to stare at someone unless you've somehow felt 'something' and feel compelled to do it despite yourself. :D Am I right or should I allocate 1 minute? :p

:D :D :D dunno lar..u try first then tell us wat happen..

kpc
06-12-2006, 03:24 PM
You know something, bonobo's don't complain if their spouses cheat on them.
Maybe there is something we can all learn from them.

Sugarfree
06-12-2006, 03:25 PM
:D :D :D dunno lar..u try first then tell us wat happen..
30 sec: black eye. 1 minute: black eyeS. :D :D

jack12
06-12-2006, 03:26 PM
I beg to differ. He is merely appreciating the beuty of the lady. Is it wrong to adore something which is beautiful?

Perhaps as a guide, staring at another girl for more than 30 secs may probably spell trouble for the current relationship. I mean, 30 seconds is a long time to stare at someone unless you've somehow felt 'something' and feel compelled to do it despite yourself. :D Am I right or should I allocate 1 minute? :p

Blue Jasmine
06-12-2006, 03:31 PM
I beg to differ. He is merely appreciating the beuty of the lady. Is it wrong to adore something which is beautiful?


Nolar if your gf can understand that adoring is nothing wrong then good lor..if not like wat sugarfree say..try getting black eyes!!! :D :D :D

Sugarfree
06-12-2006, 03:35 PM
I beg to differ. He is merely appreciating the beuty of the lady. Is it wrong to adore something which is beautiful?
no, of course, nothing's wrong with appreciating beauty. it's only wrong when the mind wants more than to look. and sometimes, all it takes is a long appreciative look to get the mind excited and perhaps spur you on to go beyond looking despite yourself...especially, if the beautiful girl throws a smile at you...but, hey, that's a story for another day. :D

kokomo
06-12-2006, 05:34 PM
Just few hours been away, and the thread has already grown into the wild? Haha ... this is really interesting. Men cheats, women cheats but everyone want the same respect for themselves. So what you guys think?

Some guys can just don't look at other girls, I know a guy who can do that. But can the girls don't look at other guys? Eh, if girls look at girls and guys look at guys. :eek: Imagine this, your guy is out wif you, don't look at girls but instead look at guys. :eek: Horrible! I don't even wanna think any further.

vivacious
06-12-2006, 06:01 PM
Men who are content merely to look because what;s in front of them is attractive don;t look at a women much differently from the way they would look at a beuatiful painting, or an intersting sunset.

Sugarfree
06-12-2006, 06:21 PM
quote: originally written by kokomo: Some guys can just don't look at other girls, I know a guy who can do that.

***

Hehehe. Why, is he gay, ah? :D


Men who are content merely to look because what;s in front of them is attractive don;t look at a women much differently from the way they would look at a beuatiful painting, or an intersting sunset.
Oh, Vivacious, you're so funny! That is so-not-true, I'm sorry to disappoint you. Just ain't true, that. hahaha. We'd like to take beautiful women to look at the sunset, though. ;)

jeffchua
06-12-2006, 08:01 PM
I beg to differ. He is merely appreciating the beuty of the lady. Is it wrong to adore something which is beautiful?

Jack right , bee attracted to beatiful flower , if ur partner looked at other girls
, u should not blame him but urself.... ;)

pepsi
06-12-2006, 08:05 PM
Jack right , bee attracted to beatiful flower , if ur partner looked at other girls
, u should not blame him but urself.... ;)
What happen to beauty is in the eyes of the beholder ? ;)

Sugarfree
06-12-2006, 08:42 PM
What happen to beauty is in the eyes of the beholder ? ;)
That I dunno but I sure know that beauty is in the eyes of the beerholder. :p

kokomo
07-12-2006, 03:04 AM
Sugarfree, that friend of mine is straight as ever been and he has gotten himself a very nice girl.

vivacious
07-12-2006, 09:04 AM
Jack right , bee attracted to beatiful flower , if ur partner looked at other girls
, u should not blame him but urself.... ;)

Excuse me? :rolleyes: There is a the grave offence of cheating or looking at a women when you are with a women already. Men are nothing if not unsubtle. When men look at other women , the women tends to notice. Men can;t resisits the hip- wringgles in a women when she passes by.

Oceanblue
07-12-2006, 09:26 AM
I won't give a care if my boyfriend looked at other girls, I look at other guys la haha! :p My ex bf actually, told me guys tend to look at me a lot, so he was always on his toes but what could I do? I don't make up nor do I wear any sexy clothes at all. Blur.. anyway, I look at good looking guys and gals too. No harm just to exercise the eyes la haha! :p

A couple should learn to take it easy, not to harp on each other all the time who to look and what to do. you'll be less stressed like that. haha!

Oceanblue
07-12-2006, 09:32 AM
Why men cheat? Women also cheat what. :p Cannot live with the fact? Say sayonara. Haha!

That's about the most intelligent (or stupid) thing that I can come up with now.

firefox
07-12-2006, 09:33 AM
to be frank why men cheat is .. there are women who dont mind a fling has they take this as a challenge and live out a fantasy..it works both ways too

Sugarfree
07-12-2006, 10:27 AM
Sugarfree, that friend of mine is straight as ever been and he has gotten himself a very nice girl.
Kokomo, thanks for the clarification. Now, this is one good man! A gem. Lucky catch for the girl. :D

Ullas Sahadevan
07-12-2006, 10:51 AM
it works both ways tooYou said it :) Has anybody heard the sound of one hand clapping? :rolleyes:

flowi
07-12-2006, 11:13 AM
Strength & stamina to satisfy the desires of 3 wives? :D It wouldn't be too difficult but I can't go into that here for obvious reasons. And, no, it doesn't necessarily have to do with the blue pill, ok! :p

Hullo ... receive a pack of Silangra instead of Viagra .... he he he any takers (FOC) PM me and buy me a nice kopi peng kow ................ macam macam ada sekrg!

kokomo
07-12-2006, 11:30 AM
I won't give a care if my boyfriend looked at other girls, I look at other guys la haha! :p My ex bf actually, told me guys tend to look at me a lot, so he was always on his toes but what could I do? I don't make up nor do I wear any sexy clothes at all. Blur.. anyway, I look at good looking guys and gals too. No harm just to exercise the eyes la haha! :p

A couple should learn to take it easy, not to harp on each other all the time who to look and what to do. you'll be less stressed like that. haha!

You're one of the few girl that can think like this. Haha .. very positive and healthy way of living. Still young, why worry! Either party worries bout their partner looking at others, then need to think of something to attract their attention back to their side.

Normally, when a guy looks at other girl, its usually so happen the conversation was a bit boring or he felt bored. That's why they need to turn their heads and eyes, to survey their surrouding. For me, I look everywhere, including girls, things, buildings, suspicious ppl. Walk around the complex is to see things, so have to open the eyes and see.

Just what I do. Pls do notice if I start turning my heads around meaning I'm starting to feel bored. Hahah ....

Sugarfree
07-12-2006, 12:37 PM
Hullo ... receive a pack of Silangra instead of Viagra .... he he he any takers (FOC) PM me and buy me a nice kopi peng kow ................ macam macam ada sekrg!
And I didn't mean Silangra or Tongkat Ali and all that stuff, either. :p It's all about making full use of existing resources! Enuff said. Dun feel like a banana today ;)

vivacious
07-12-2006, 01:03 PM
Men of the can't live if living is without u view tend to suffer from an alarming absence of romantic perpective. Men who literally worship a women are unlikely to notice the competition.But is worship wat we want? Doesn;t blind devotion have more to do with religion than with sexual attraction or rapport or chemistry- or any of the things that go to make a healthy and successful relationship?

sugarstic
07-12-2006, 01:51 PM
I think it's true that guys usually look around (at other things.. might be girls..) when the conversation gets a bit boring... and I do not think it's wrong to be looking (just looking) at girls/guys as long as what you are doing does not offend your other half.. and if it does, then you'd have to know why he/she feels so... is it because you have not given him/her enough security? If so, then do something about it if you truly value the relationship... At the end of the day, the word is TRUST.. and without trust, there is no relationship at all...

KakiLang
07-12-2006, 02:52 PM
There is nothing wrong when men look at gals in front of their gal friends, look only mah as long as he doesnt cheat..Some men try to be good, i mean pretend not looking at gals while the gf is with him but go flirting with other gals when he is alone....

My gf will "notify" me if there r some pretty gals around when we go out...we would then discuss about our preferred aethestic taste :p ....to my gf, it's nothing wrong looking at gals as long as I don't cheat her... :)

vivacious
07-12-2006, 02:56 PM
GOOD on ya! Amen :)

Oceanblue
07-12-2006, 03:36 PM
You're one of the few girl that can think like this. Haha .. very positive and healthy way of living. Still young, why worry!

Haha! :p Actually hor, I think young or old same rule applies if there ain't no trust, there ain't no happy ending. Getting angry with your partner just becoz he looked at other women is I think....very childish lor haha! :p The more you try to control, the more they will want to do it and worse, might find it more exciting doing it behind your back! haha! :p

Oceanblue
07-12-2006, 03:40 PM
My gf will "notify" me if there r some pretty gals around when we go out...we would then discuss about our preferred aethestic taste :p ....to my gf, it's nothing wrong looking at gals as long as I don't cheat her... :)
Just like me! Haha! Very very cool :p It's not like you look and you'll jump into bed with them rite? haha! In this case I think honesty is the best policy rather than pretending to be goody goody and in turn, turn to bite! NGAUM!!! :p

Sugarfree
07-12-2006, 04:31 PM
...and in turn, turn to bite! NGAUM!!! :p
I like your special sound effects! :D

kokomo
07-12-2006, 04:35 PM
Oceanblue, you really sporty'lah.

Oceanblue
07-12-2006, 05:34 PM
Thank you guys! :p Like I've said, I'm a boring girl so no guys will be interested to cheat me. haha! I also have no money and try to look as plain as I can be, save me money and time. Talking about cheating, I just 'cheated' my grandpa, we were playing scrabble and I took 8 tiles instead of 7. :eek: :p (he did that to me before, learning from the best) :p

Time to bring my legs out for a jog. Byeee!

chin_wan
07-12-2006, 05:40 PM
A man is as faithful as his options. Since we were teenagers, we have been chasing sex so when it drops on your lap, it is very difficult to refuse.

Women always say, "I reject it all the time...if I can do it, why can't you?". It is easy for women to reject because since your teenage time, every man/boy you met have been trying to do it with you. So by the time you get to your 20s, the idea of sex is boring...

Everytime a man is being nice to you, he is simply offering sex. For men, it different. We have to fend for ourselves and when we get it, we think..."Wow! this must be my lucky day!"

Men can stop chasing sex but that will need some rehabilitation (marriage) but when it was offered to you, we can try to run...but it usually will catch up on you.


Disclaimer: The above is meant as a joke. It is by no means true.

kokomo
07-12-2006, 06:41 PM
Haha ... CW, I thought initially you're coming up with a new script bout teenage sex life. Hahah .. :D Anyway, good sum up here.

Oceanblue, you're smart. Behave boring or let people think that you're a boring person, so therefore they drop the idea of cheating on you but then again be wary, cos most con artist out there are on the hunt for such kind. More vulnerable I suppose. :rolleyes:

tntn73
07-12-2006, 07:45 PM
someone told me this thread has gone incredibly sad I have to agree, now I do NOT understand anything said such as THESE:


Men of the can't live if living is without u view tend to suffer from an alarming absence of romantic perpective. Men who literally worship a women are unlikely to notice the competition.But is worship wat we want? Doesn;t blind devotion have more to do with religion than with sexual attraction or rapport or chemistry- or any of the things that go to make a healthy and successful relationship?

??QUOTED??

Oceanblue
07-12-2006, 08:07 PM
Oceanblue, you're smart. Behave boring or let people think that you're a boring person, so therefore they drop the idea of cheating on you but then again be wary, cos most con artist out there are on the hunt for such kind. More vulnerable I suppose. :rolleyes:

Thank you once again but no la, I'm not that smart. haha! whoever that con artist is, that fellow must be a real stoopid con artist coz I'm all skinny, pale, flat, like an airport landing and sooooo lazy. :p

Ok ok ok, I think hor, to those who feels cheated, go get a life, find new hobbies, meet new friends, most oftenly your relationship has become stale and your partner starts to treat you more like a brother, sister, room-mate or maid :p with nothing much meaningful to talk about, although there are no guarantees that your relationship can be salvaged but at least you are more prepared to cope if your partner finally leaves you. You will become a 'cheat' yourself if you do not do anything about it and stay in the relationship for old time's sakes. Even rescuing the relationship needs some serious help and don't just feel desperate or let it wither in time see-how-la kind of attitude. It's strange but some circumstances are beyond your control so just go, get a life and be happeeee! :p in other words, I mean, others can cheat you, you can also cheat others, but don't you cheat yourself. :)

kokomo
07-12-2006, 08:33 PM
Thank you once again but no la, I'm not that smart. haha! whoever that con artist is, that fellow must be a real stoopid con artist coz I'm all skinny, pale, flat, like an airport landing and sooooo lazy. :p


Seeing is believing. Words are trickier than pics. Haha .. anyway, you so lazy, always at home, I guess no one would / able to cheat you out of anything.

Oceanblue
07-12-2006, 08:50 PM
Hmm. I'm my daddy's girl what, anyway I am happee the way I am. You are not too bad yourself, read somewhere you are a bad boy? :p haha! so have you cheated a lot of girls? Just joking. :p

vivacious
07-12-2006, 11:02 PM
someone told me this thread has gone incredibly sad I have to agree, now I do NOT understand anything said such as THESE:



??QUOTED??
Its just an expression. I dont expect anyone to understand it. :rolleyes:

Nikki 2
07-12-2006, 11:07 PM
what ocean blue said is so true... :cool:
The cheated should go get a life...get a new hobby...meet up long lost friends...party whenever you can...just got to let it go and move on...life`s too short...maybe should start living it up n enjoy the cheater`s $$$ :p :D

vivacious
07-12-2006, 11:11 PM
I think should gather all the men who cheats into a nice house of cheats and just let them think wat they did wrong to those they love.

jeffchua
07-12-2006, 11:33 PM
Viva , why u so hate us????? U must be one of the victim ......
Tell ur story....
If u hate us with no reasons , u will probally end up as nee ku (female monk)
in tempel.... :rolleyes:

Nikki 2
07-12-2006, 11:37 PM
Oh...don`t bother putting them anywhere...they know what they did wrong! Question is whether they will repent or even want to...well, that`s another chapter...sigh
For the cheated to trust again...i have been told it could take years...2 to 5,i m told :( ...well, best of luck to the cheated! Let`s all pray n hope that the relationship will have a happy ending...I m betting on my friend`s one :D

kokomo
07-12-2006, 11:47 PM
Hmm. I'm my daddy's girl what, anyway I am happee the way I am. You are not too bad yourself, read somewhere you are a bad boy? :p haha! so have you cheated a lot of girls? Just joking. :p

Errr .. is best to leave history as history. ME cheated a lot of girls? Hmmm .. I think I should start writing on a book how to cheat girls? Haha ... then another book how not to get cheateD?

Really think those got cheated to be trusting again can heal within 2-5 yrs? Well, some gone longer than that. Some became cheaters also cos once got cheated. This is what I think it happen. Others why they cheat? They gotta come out and share it.

Oceanblue
08-12-2006, 08:50 AM
Some became cheaters also cos once got cheated.

Hmm. Don't agree with you. A lot of effort is put into 'cheating' and I don't think anyone actually likes cheating. That's just how I feel la, most of my friends do not like to cheat either. If you ask me this morning, I don't even like the discussion on who cheats and what cheats, every case is unique with different set of reasons. How can people discuss this 'in general' I don't get it. There must be a reason for everything that happens so unless the victim or the cheater tells a true story, this will become like a kopitiam chat.

So you are right, your last line, they gotta come out and share it. And I will shut up. Haha!

sugarstic
08-12-2006, 09:07 AM
Seems like everyone's asking about a true story? ok.. I'd share mine... this happened a few years back... while I was still studying overseas... I met another Malaysian there... We became friends and then 'more than friends'... During xmas hols, I went for a holiday with my friends while he planned his own holiday with his 'friends' (which I have not met)... coincidentally, our holidays landed us in the same place - Paris, France. He made it a point to meet me despite our busy holiday schedules and took me up the famous Eiffel Tower... the next day (xmas eve), my friends n I went to a place just opposite the Eiffel Tower to wait for a fireworks show and there... I saw him walking holding another girl's hands... they didn't see me and my friends till they were just 10 steps away from me (the place was quite dark) ... when he caught my eyes staring at him, he panicked and pulled her away quickly... so... that's how I found out he was cheating on me... and I had to find out all this on xmas eve, in the romantic city of Paris and with the wonderful Eiffel Tower behind me.... how's that for a true story?

So do I feel like the victim? YES. Do I hate men who cheat? NO.. the word 'hate' is too strong.. I will say.. I DISLIKE them... and I will not (ever) wish this kind of misfortune on anyone... am I still hurting inside? I don't know... once cheated, twice shy...

vivacious
08-12-2006, 09:10 AM
If u hate us with no reasons , u will probally end up as nee ku (female monk)
in tempel.... :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

Aiyoo... liike that ah?? :eek: ehh.. cannot just tell story like that in public. :p

ProCol
08-12-2006, 09:58 AM
sugarstic, many commiserates. A real heart-wrenching story. Ppl like him just aint worth it.

kokomo
08-12-2006, 11:04 AM
Sugarstic, sad to hear bout it. But that's how reality life is all about. Disappointment is what you can get and what you realise it would be. Anyway, I think your life are much happier without him. :rolleyes:

Oceanblue, you want kopitiam discussion? Hehe .. see you in Oldtown Kopitiam ;) Yea, do agree with most people don't like to be cheated nor would they like to cheat but then again, I'm not saying on majority here. Its the minority around that is like this.

Oceanblue
08-12-2006, 11:50 AM
Seems like everyone's asking about a true story? ok.. I'd share mine... this happened a few years back... while I was still studying overseas... I met another Malaysian there... We became friends and then 'more than friends'... During xmas hols, I went for a holiday with my friends while he planned his own holiday with his 'friends' (which I have not met)... coincidentally, our holidays landed us in the same place - Paris, France. He made it a point to meet me despite our busy holiday schedules and took me up the famous Eiffel Tower... the next day (xmas eve), my friends n I went to a place just opposite the Eiffel Tower to wait for a fireworks show and there... I saw him walking holding another girl's hands... they didn't see me and my friends till they were just 10 steps away from me (the place was quite dark) ... when he caught my eyes staring at him, he panicked and pulled her away quickly... so... that's how I found out he was cheating on me... and I had to find out all this on xmas eve, in the romantic city of Paris and with the wonderful Eiffel Tower behind me.... how's that for a true story?

So do I feel like the victim? YES. Do I hate men who cheat? NO.. the word 'hate' is too strong.. I will say.. I DISLIKE them... and I will not (ever) wish this kind of misfortune on anyone... am I still hurting inside? I don't know... once cheated, twice shy...
:( if I were you, I would have doosh! his nose for you before you say sayonara jerk! Haha! Nevermind ok, someone else deserves you better. It's good coz that experience makes you stronger I hope I'm rite.

Oceanblue
08-12-2006, 12:04 PM
Oceanblue, you want kopitiam discussion? Hehe .. see you in Oldtown Kopitiam ;)
guess what :p After dinner tonight we'll be there. Look out for a bunch of noisy ppl comprising of grandpa, grandma, x-L sized brother, petite sized sister in law with their 3 children aged 6, 8 and 9, my parents and I, tall, lean and very fair. An aunt and her friend might be tagging along. Haha! We'll probably stay for half an hour or so before heading to Summit for a movie.

I'll be wearing blue, with sneakers. ;)

Ullas Sahadevan
08-12-2006, 12:04 PM
Hmm. Don't agree with you. A lot of effort is put into 'cheating' and I don't think anyone actually likes cheating.Oceanblue: I think that statement is way too subjective. People cheat because they don't care about their partner, so it may not be a lot of effort for such people, they enjoy it! Also, there are a few complex souls out there who can still love, still care, still be everything for their partner and still cheat! But then, that is another state of mind...

kokomo
08-12-2006, 12:08 PM
:( if I were you, I would have doosh! his nose for you before you say sayonara jerk! Haha! Nevermind ok, someone else deserves you better. It's good coz that experience makes you stronger I hope I'm rite.

Well, each person grow and learn from experience. Nothing more than that. That is the value of life. Whateva you turn out to be after you had such experience is another case.

ps: Oceanblue, you very violent'lah. All men now scared of you.

kokomo
08-12-2006, 12:11 PM
guess what :p After dinner tonight we'll be there. Look out for a bunch of noisy ppl comprising of grandpa, grandma, x-L sized brother, petite sized sister in law with their 3 children aged 6, 8 and 9, my parents and I, tall, lean and very fair. An aunt and her friend might be tagging along. Haha! We'll probably stay for half an hour or so before heading to Summit for a movie.

I'll be wearing blue, with sneakers. ;)

Thanks for the tips! If I have time, I'll hangout there but then again, I prolly be drinking and getting drunk @ Beach Garden tonite. I'm short, only 5'4"! As dark as a charcoal, you'll be seeing friends around me consist of guys and girls, regardless of age, cos I can't tell the age diff either.

Oceanblue
08-12-2006, 12:11 PM
Oceanblue: I think that statement is way too subjective.
Perhaps you're rite, as subjective as when some consider that all men are cheats.

Oceanblue
08-12-2006, 12:14 PM
ps: Oceanblue, you very violent'lah. All men now scared of you.

I ain't no ghost but you might just vanish into thin air the moment you see me haha! :p

kokomo
08-12-2006, 12:15 PM
That's a very sad statement to hear. But then again, men don't mind all these. Since tombstone age, men have already been tag for it.

kokomo
08-12-2006, 12:16 PM
I ain't no ghost but you might just vanish into thin air the moment you see me haha! :p

Vanished! Haha ... well, it pretty much depends whether am drunk or am sober. :rolleyes:

Oceanblue
08-12-2006, 12:20 PM
Thanks for the tips! If I have time, I'll hangout there but then again, I prolly be drinking and getting drunk @ Beach Garden tonite. I'm short, only 5'4"! As dark as a charcoal, you'll be seeing friends around me consist of guys and girls, regardless of age, cos I can't tell the age diff either.

Haha! Yea, that's pretty short for a guy. If you're as dark as a charcoal I'll prolly not able to see you at nights, since you're as dark as a charcoal what. Tell you what, just keep smiling and show your set of white teeth, well...unless you tell me your teeth is as black as charcoal too haha! :p

Beach Garden? Have not heard of that place. Next time then.

kokomo
08-12-2006, 12:25 PM
Haha! Yea, that's pretty short for a guy. If you're as dark as a charcoal I'll prolly not able to see you at nights, since you're as dark as a charcoal what. Tell you what, just keep smiling and show your set of white teeth, well...unless you tell me your teeth is as black as charcoal too haha! :p

Beach Garden? Have not heard of that place. Next time then.

Yea, am about the shortest guy around. :o Keep smiling, ppl would think am crazy sh!t or something like that. No no, one fair and one dark, you wanna brighten my side? Am no CHarlie Angel but Dark Angel.

Beach Garden indeed not many have heard of it. If many did heard of you, you think we can still have fun our of own there? Simply impossible.

Does anyone think a pub is a place for cheaters to be around?

Oceanblue
08-12-2006, 12:33 PM
May I ask a stoopid question? Why is it when you post I can't see you online?

To be frank, I've only been to a pub once with my parents, Uncle Chilies in Hilton, to meet up with some friends. Other pubs not yet :p

Don't know how to answer your last question. You should instead ask " Does anyone think a pub is a place for humans to be around?" haha :p

kokomo
08-12-2006, 12:40 PM
You ask me to vanish when I see you'ma. So now am vanished!

Why is it, you go pub and movies and all, your parents always with you? Underage ka? With parents no curfew and without them got curfew? :p

So you've been to pub also at least once. So really or not? They aren't human there?

sakaibear
08-12-2006, 12:44 PM
eh kokomo....dont la shoot so much to people. :p

sakaibear
08-12-2006, 12:45 PM
May I ask a stoopid question? Why is it when you post I can't see you online?



answer is you can set your status to enable other people to see if you are online or not. something like icq and msn's invisible mode

Oceanblue
08-12-2006, 12:47 PM
Yea got it! The invisible button haha! :p You try to cheat me Kokomo!

Of coz I'm not underage, above 21 already! haha! :p

Eh Kokomo, I enjoy spikey conversations like these. Keep it coming. But this last line of yours " So really or not? They aren't human there? " I don't get it. :p

Oceanblue
08-12-2006, 12:49 PM
answer is you can set your status to enable other people to see if you are online or not. something like icq and msn's invisible mode

Thank you Sakaibear. :) Got it earlier. It's all in the user control panel. How blur of me. Now I'm invisible too. Poof!! :p

kokomo
08-12-2006, 12:49 PM
Aiya .. sakai, I where got shoot her? Just trying to know her better only and other women that find men cheats better. This is only in general.

Oceanblue
08-12-2006, 12:51 PM
and other women that find men cheats better.

Any trophies for men who cheats the best? :p

Am I spamming is it time for me to shut up? :p

kokomo
08-12-2006, 12:52 PM
Yea got it! The invisible button haha! :p You try to cheat me Kokomo!

Of coz I'm not underage, above 21 already! haha! :p

Eh Kokomo, I enjoy spikey conversations like these. Keep it coming. But this last line of yours " So really or not? They aren't human there? " I don't get it. :p

Hahaha ... finally! Anyway, I do like conversation like this. Can keep going whole day and do nothing useful except being in here. Sigh! Sad addiction ain't it?

Can't get the meaning of last line? Haha .. gotta figure it summore. Otherwise, next time only I tell you.

kokomo
08-12-2006, 12:54 PM
Any trophies for men who cheats the best? :p

Am I spamming is it time for me to shut up? :p

If there would be trophies for it. Am sure that trophies has got a boobie trap with it. Explosive materials or something. Girls/ladies would want men like that suffered terribly.

Am I your counterpart for spamming?

Oceanblue
08-12-2006, 12:57 PM
Yea, addiction to chats and the internet is really a bad bad thing. Ok kick my own butt I'm out of here. For now. Haha! :p

kokomo
08-12-2006, 01:00 PM
Yea, addiction to chats and the internet is really a bad bad thing. Ok kick my own butt I'm out of here. For now. Haha! :p

It would be a pleasure to help you kick your butt. But then again, it would hurt the heart of many men. Haha .. and I differ this. This is not a chat. This is a conversation/discussion room in the forum.

Chat? There is always MSN, Yahoo and so forth. Why need this? Haha ..

Oceanblue
08-12-2006, 01:07 PM
Haha .. and I differ this. This is not a chat. This is a conversation/discussion room in the forum.

Chat? There is always MSN, Yahoo and so forth. Why need this? Haha ..
I'm still here, just pretending to be gone :p:p:p hahahaha!!! This invisible thingy is cool!

Eh Kokomo, you said "It would be a pleasure to help you kick your butt. But then again, it would hurt the heart of many men." I totally disagree with that statement. I know no one in this forum but you are different, wow...you might just make all the girls hate Oceanblue :p

tntn73
08-12-2006, 02:08 PM
2 pages of CHAT??

Faint.

sugarstic
08-12-2006, 02:29 PM
:( if I were you, I would have doosh! his nose for you before you say sayonara jerk! Haha! Nevermind ok, someone else deserves you better. It's good coz that experience makes you stronger I hope I'm rite.
Hmm... I had that chance but what's the point of hurting his nose when it's his heart that I wish I could hurt more! hehe.. me sounding evil... but yes, I think it was an experience that made me alot stronger... and to believe that things that appear in fiction love story books do happen in real life... hehe..

sakaibear
08-12-2006, 03:10 PM
i'm willing to take a bet they do. at least gives something for us to dream about. however don't delve too deep into it or you'll be disappointed. stories like those do give us hope sometimes and that slight glimmer is all we need sometimes. :)

jack12
08-12-2006, 07:19 PM
How lucky you are! You came to know his bad behaviour before you got deeply involved with him. Compare yourself with a wife who finds out that her husband is having an affair with another woman, thus ending their marriage. You are in much better position, are'nt you?

Seems like everyone's asking about a true story? ok.. I'd share mine... this happened a few years back... while I was still studying overseas... I met another Malaysian there... We became friends and then 'more than friends'... During xmas hols, I went for a holiday with my friends while he planned his own holiday with his 'friends' (which I have not met)... coincidentally, our holidays landed us in the same place - Paris, France. He made it a point to meet me despite our busy holiday schedules and took me up the famous Eiffel Tower... the next day (xmas eve), my friends n I went to a place just opposite the Eiffel Tower to wait for a fireworks show and there... I saw him walking holding another girl's hands... they didn't see me and my friends till they were just 10 steps away from me (the place was quite dark) ... when he caught my eyes staring at him, he panicked and pulled her away quickly... so... that's how I found out he was cheating on me... and I had to find out all this on xmas eve, in the romantic city of Paris and with the wonderful Eiffel Tower behind me.... how's that for a true story?

So do I feel like the victim? YES. Do I hate men who cheat? NO.. the word 'hate' is too strong.. I will say.. I DISLIKE them... and I will not (ever) wish this kind of misfortune on anyone... am I still hurting inside? I don't know... once cheated, twice shy...

kokomo
09-12-2006, 02:40 AM
I'm still here, just pretending to be gone :p:p:p hahahaha!!! This invisible thingy is cool!

Eh Kokomo, you said "It would be a pleasure to help you kick your butt. But then again, it would hurt the heart of many men." I totally disagree with that statement. I know no one in this forum but you are different, wow...you might just make all the girls hate Oceanblue :p

Oceanblue, you can disagree but other men will agree. Haha .. :p Girls, hate you? Yea, you're kicking an ass of a guy who is only 5'4", dark like Louis Koo, height of Eric Tsang, look like Mr Bean, walk like James Dean & sit like Ah Pek.

I think sugarstic now feel very fortunate of herself knowing the true colours of such guy at an early stage. Well, always count your blessings!

Oceanblue
09-12-2006, 05:19 PM
You're rite, always count our blessings and be happeeee! :p

Kokomo, yesterday we were at kopitiam when this dark and charcoal skinned burly chap that looked a lot like eric tsang but not louis koo walked towards me and my jaw nearly dropped thinking that he was you! until he opened his mouth and asked "Siew Cheh, oi mai DVD mou?" :p

chin_wan
09-12-2006, 09:43 PM
Why men cheat? Cause we know if the woman loves you, she will eventually forgive you. And if they don't, there's always other fish in the sea.

Oceanblue
10-12-2006, 09:15 AM
Just thinking aloud. Don't you guys think that when someone 'cheats', it might be for love? Forbidden love that is.

Choon1980
10-12-2006, 11:21 AM
Just thinking aloud. Don't you guys think that when someone 'cheats', it might be for love? Forbidden love that is.
Of course it's possible. But then the cheater would still be dishonest to whoever he/she is 'officially' with. Better to come clean first, right?

Oceanblue
10-12-2006, 12:48 PM
Of course it's possible. But then the cheater would still be dishonest to whoever he/she is 'officially' with. Better to come clean first, right?

Yes I believe so, but you got to do it subtly finding the rite words and time, and if you want the relationship to work, it will take twice as much energy and dedication than before. Lots of consequences to be dealt with before and after, but it always pays to be honest, even if you do not want to continue with the relationship and ready to move on with the new partner.

Oceanblue
10-12-2006, 12:56 PM
Why men cheat? Cause we know if the woman loves you, she will eventually forgive you. And if they don't, there's always other fish in the sea.

I don't think this is fair to the woman lor :( What if your girlfriend or wife told you this? If you can't forgive her, she then tells you there are many more fishes in the sea. Howzat? :p

Chat chat chat, this is bad. I'd better shut up. :p

kokomo
10-12-2006, 06:06 PM
You're rite, always count our blessings and be happeeee! :p

Kokomo, yesterday we were at kopitiam when this dark and charcoal skinned burly chap that looked a lot like eric tsang but not louis koo walked towards me and my jaw nearly dropped thinking that he was you! until he opened his mouth and asked "Siew Cheh, oi mai DVD mou?" :p

Why didn't you just walk up to him and ask him,"Are you Kokomo?" It could just be me. :cool: Then I would have known is you. Haha ... :p

Forbidden love eh ... is it still very much in the trend? I know nowadays they all openly cheat one and another.

vivienp
10-12-2006, 06:49 PM
Also, there are a few complex souls out there who can still love, still care, still be everything for their partner and still cheat! But then, that is another state of mind...

Yup, I know of a guy like that... my fren's ex. When she found out, being a strong & intelligent gal, she opts OUT. Coz she knew that he will never change, & she cant accept this kind of behavior, & she definitely dont deserve it! As Greg Behrendt (consultant for Sex and the City) put it...Dont waste the pretty!
:cool:

chin_wan
10-12-2006, 11:28 PM
I don't think this is fair to the woman lor :( What if your girlfriend or wife told you this? If you can't forgive her, she then tells you there are many more fishes in the sea. Howzat? :p

Chat chat chat, this is bad. I'd better shut up. :p

My relationship with my wife is 2-way so what applies to me, also applies to her.

Sugarfree
11-12-2006, 03:42 PM
...Forbidden love eh ... is it still very much in the trend? I know nowadays they all openly cheat one and another.
Openly? Wow. In the States, maybe but here, too? :D

kokomo
11-12-2006, 06:30 PM
Openly? Wow. In the States, maybe but here, too? :D

Well, more and more are accepting the culture from there also. I don't see much difference of it soon.

simba
11-12-2006, 08:15 PM
I think men who cheat are the world`s biggest liars and they are cowards too!
Unfaithful men...especially married ones top the list.

As for me. I will enjoy myself to the hilt....then when I settle down, it will be for GOOD n REAL! What do you think, guys? You all agree with Simba.

USJ27Resident
11-12-2006, 10:51 PM
I think men who cheat are the world`s biggest liars and they are cowards too!
Unfaithful men...especially married ones top the list.

As for me. I will enjoy myself to the hilt....then when I settle down, it will be for GOOD n REAL! What do you think, guys? You all agree with Simba.

IMHO, Better be a hippopotamus instead of a hippocrite....

Some men are serial cheaters, some don't plan to cheat... and for some - it just happens... how??? Likewise - women too.... tease, tease, tease - then when the panties flies... sit and wonder what the **** happened... or just grin and live another day...

I know this fact - if a man cheats, and if his wife's girlfriends gets a hint of the affair... rest assured, the wife will hear of it IMMEDIATELY... from her loyal friends (with or without proof !!!)

If the wife is having an affair - and the husband friends got wind of it, rest assured that the husband WILL NEVER hear anything from his friends... he will have to find out for himself who the wife has been up to.. err, with !

sugarstic
12-12-2006, 09:09 AM
I think sugarstic now feel very fortunate of herself knowing the true colours of such guy at an early stage. Well, always count your blessings!
Yes, I am counting my blessings... :)

sugarstic
12-12-2006, 09:14 AM
"FORBIDDEN LOVE" ... IMHO, there's a reason why it's called forbidden... and because it's forbidden, then why do people still choose this kind of relationship? Is it because commitment is just too difficult to comprehend? Or is it just plain easy and fun to do so?

flowi
12-12-2006, 09:57 AM
As for me. I will enjoy myself to the hilt....then when I settle down, it will be for GOOD n REAL! What do you think, guys? You all agree with Simba.[/QUOTE]

Simba, ideally ....YES i must agree with you but in real life hmmmm i beg to differ!! Until we are in that position, questions will be answered e.g. why u cheat? was it worth it? Was it fun? how can u afford it? and so on and so on! Have seen how a marriage or rather a family that is more than 15 years masuk longkang coz the wifey caught the hubby with another gf .... the "coward" left the family for the babboon! For once, i dun mind losing a fren! There are many ways to call "cheat" .. flirt? crush? consider cheat?

Till then .... Happy Holidays! :cool:

Sugarfree
12-12-2006, 10:04 AM
"FORBIDDEN LOVE" ... IMHO, there's a reason why it's called forbidden... and because it's forbidden, then why do people still choose this kind of relationship? Is it because commitment is just too difficult to comprehend? Or is it just plain easy and fun to do so?
It is because forbidden fruit is the sweetest. :)

sugarstic
12-12-2006, 10:15 AM
It is because forbidden fruit is the sweetest. :)
If everyone were to think that way, then what is to happen to honest true love? I dare not imagine further...

kokomo
12-12-2006, 10:59 AM
I think some ppl just cont. fooling around is also b'cos they are lost or seem they have yet to find their true love. That's why the hunt has been going around. Not only men, vice versa. Ladies too did the same thing. Going out on a hunt. One minute, you see them with this guy, thinking it would last for quite a while then the next minute, she's out with another guy.

sugarstic
12-12-2006, 11:14 AM
It's a wild goose chase... for what we all believe might possible our Mr/Ms Right!

kokomo
12-12-2006, 11:20 AM
It's a wild goose chase... for what we all believe might possible our Mr/Ms Right!

Exactly, that's why the term cheat does not exist!

sugarstic
12-12-2006, 12:26 PM
It's a wild goose chase... for what we all believe might possible our Mr/Ms Right!
Opps, I just realised my horrible grammar/typo error.. hehe.. it should have been, "for what we all believe might possibly be our Mr/Ms Right" :)

AllUrban
20-12-2006, 09:41 AM
Opps, I just realised my horrible grammar/typo error.. hehe.. it should have been, "for what we all believe might possibly be our Mr/Ms Right" :)why do people cheat...

*high expectations

*not willing to make compromises

*lack of guilt/shame

*emphasis on material/physical satisfaction rather than other forms of satisfaction

*short attention span

*increased opportunity...more time spent apart from partners

*the politicians and other public figures do it

famous "cheaters" who might surprise you include...Martin Luther King...Albert Einstein...General Zia (president of Pakistan), Nehru (1st PM of India)...even Bill Cosby cheated on his wife....Cosby, family man and PhD...

Cheers, m

vivacious
20-12-2006, 12:23 PM
Did not know that Bill Cosby cheated on his wife! I like him his jokes are good!

sugarstic
20-12-2006, 05:37 PM
why do people cheat...
*high expectations
*not willing to make compromises
*lack of guilt/shame
*emphasis on material/physical satisfaction rather than other forms of satisfaction
*short attention span
*increased opportunity...more time spent apart from partners
*the politicians and other public figures do it
Cheers, m
A good list of reasons... but really, there is no end to this list...

xwp3
20-12-2006, 07:48 PM
Overall HUMANS CHEATS! Once a person lie, they seems to have a "good reason" why they lie, be it good or bad. Some dont even admit they "lied" when its so damn obvious they did n their excuse is, "its for your own good".... gosh..

twinkles
20-12-2006, 10:51 PM
Why should it always be the man that cheats? Do girls cheat also? Why always guys are being accused of cheating.... being a girl myself, i find that a lot of females are too grumpy about things that they forget they themselves are doing it...... get on with... since that the world population stats shows that ratio for a guy equals to 7 girls.... so.... why all the girls keep complaining of the small market... got one already so good .... some more complaining..... pooi!

sugarstic
21-12-2006, 08:55 AM
Overall HUMANS CHEATS! Once a person lie, they seems to have a "good reason" why they lie, be it good or bad. Some dont even admit they "lied" when its so damn obvious they did n their excuse is, "its for your own good".... gosh..
Yeah.. some men won't admit and would even dare to say...'not knowing I cheated is for your own good..' I wonder.. if the same happens to their mothers/sisters, would they say the same??

vivacious
21-12-2006, 08:58 AM
[QUOTE=AllUrban]why do people cheat...

*high expectations

*not willing to make compromises

*lack of guilt/shame

Iagree with u. N also y they cheat? INSECURE! :mad:

sugarstic
21-12-2006, 09:02 AM
[QUOTE=AllUrban]why do people cheat...

The easiest answer is BECAUSE THEY WANT TO...

sakaibear
21-12-2006, 09:24 AM
i believe the answer is also because THEY CAN. more often than not, when given the powers or luck bestowed upon most guys i assume would've gone from it. what makes the difference is as what sugarstic said, whether they want to or not.

AllUrban
21-12-2006, 09:51 AM
because they WANT to
because they CAN
because they think it WONT MATTER
because they arent concerned about who they might HURT.

in my own secret heart....I've thought about it...

I've formed emotional connections (a form of cheating) and I've had opportunity...and yet....when it came down to it, I found that I could not be a cheater because I didnt want to hurt someone I cared about.

Cheers, m

kellyk
21-12-2006, 04:34 PM
Ummm.... But do they HAVE to?

sugarstic
21-12-2006, 04:39 PM
Ummm.... But do they HAVE to?
Nope... no one can force them to cheat unless they already have intentions to do so... so they really DON'T HAVE to... but THEY WANT TO...

AllUrban
22-12-2006, 05:41 AM
Nope... no one can force them to cheat unless they already have intentions to do so... so they really DON'T HAVE to... but THEY WANT TO...that reminds me of the episode of the simpsons where Homer almost cheated on his wife with his coworker....

I can still remember the dialogue....

Homer: (crying)
Mindy: What's wrong?
H: You know
M: What?
H: We're going to have sex (sobbing)
M: Oh...but we dont have to
H: Yes we do...the cookie told me so (his fortune cookie message was: "you will find happiness with a new love")
M: Homer, cookies arent always right
H: But they're so sweet
M: You dont have to
H: But maybe I want to......but then I think of Marge...and the kids...except the boy, he makes me wanna...arrrgghhh (strangling motions)

But in the end, he chooses his wife

Cheers, m

sugarstic
22-12-2006, 10:44 AM
But in the end, he chooses his wife

In the end, it was happily ever after... but how often does that really happen in real life?

kellyk
23-12-2006, 02:11 AM
In the end, it was happily ever after... but how often does that really happen in real life?

I guess if it happens here, more often than not, the guy will end up having 2 wives... as women here are so accomodating..... (Unless the guy is able to divorce the first wife with an sms...now that's a different story... heheh) :D

Sugarfree
23-12-2006, 11:54 AM
I guess if it happens here, more often than not, the guy will end up having 2 wives... as women here are so accomodating..... (Unless the guy is able to divorce the first wife with an sms):D
Some women have been conditioned from small to accomodate up to 3 (4 if you include the 1st wife) wives in a family. So..urmm..it's all in the mind, if you will. Ideally, of course and thank goodness, most people go by the 1 to 1 ruling. :D

AllUrban
24-12-2006, 11:24 AM
Some women have been conditioned from small to accomodate up to 3 (4 if you include the 1st wife) wives in a family. So..urmm..it's all in the mind, if you will. Ideally, of course and thank goodness, most people go by the 1 to 1 ruling. :Dhehehehe how sure are you about that?

Just saying...methinks 1 to 1 is a pretty recent concept in human society....and methinks the number of honest 1 to 1 without any others....is in the minority...so we have changed the approach that has worked for generations and generations

Recently, some men have been conditioned from small to accommodate only 1 wife in a family....accepting less than men of the past would accept...in fact many societies in the placed no limit on the number of wives and concubines a man could have... :eek:

Got to look at it from that other perspective too :p scary as it may seem

Cheers, m

Sugarfree
24-12-2006, 08:49 PM
hehehehe how sure are you about that?
hehehe..just casual observation la...but i need to rephrase what i said...it should have been that these women had been conditioned to accept as fate their hubbies taking 4 wives...hehehehe.... :p :D

sugarstic
27-12-2006, 03:46 PM
hehehe..just casual observation la...but i need to rephrase what i said...it should have been that these women had been conditioned to accept as fate their hubbies taking 4 wives...hehehehe.... :p :D
Indeed so.. some people were brought up in such an environment whereby it's just abnormal to have only one wife when law says you can have one First Wife and three more Extras IF you can provide equally for ALL FOUR...

But for many others who do not share the same childhood environment/teachings, sharing a lover is never acceptable nor toleratable...

orchipalar
31-03-2007, 11:46 PM
Got to look at it from that other perspective too :p scary as it may seemErr buddy...from the age of 15 to 55...Orchi would assume that there would be more men than women populace of the world...

Should men be allowed to marry more than 1 wife...or wives...there won't even be enough women eventually that men could marry...

Yeh...really scary thought eh?

Err or...is it happening as we speak...? (http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=1428837)

Sugarfree
31-03-2007, 11:52 PM
Scary. Scary. Scary. Luckily it won't happen in our lifetime.