Margarine Vs Butter - True or Myth?

[birdy]

From: Dr. Sara Reynolds
Pass the butter ~ ~ ~ ~ This is interesting.

Margarine was originally manufactured to fatten turkeys. When it killed the turkeys, the people who had put all the money into the research wanted a payback so they put their heads together to figure out what to do with this product to get their money back. It was a white substance with no food appeal so they added the yellow coloring and sold it to people to use in place of butter. How do you like it? They have come out with some clever new flavorings.

DO YOU KNOW...the difference between margarine and butter? Read on to the end...gets very interesting!
Both have the same amount of calories.

Butter is slightly higher in saturated fats at 8 grams compared to 5 grams.

Eating margarine can increase heart disease in women by 53% over eating the same amount of butter, according to a recent Harvard Medical Study.

Eating butter increases the absorption of many other nutrients in other foods.

Butter has many nutritional benefits where margarine has a few only because they are added!

Butter tastes much better than margarine and it can enhance the flavors of other foods.

Butter has been around for centuries where margarine has been around for less than 100 years.

And now, for Margarine..
Very high in trans fatty acids.

Triple risk of coronary heart disease.

Increases total cholesterol and LDL (this is the bad cholesterol) and lowers HDL cholesterol, (the good cholesterol)

Increases the risk of cancers up to five fold.

Lowers quality of breast milk.

Decreases immune response.

Decreases insulin response.


And here's the most disturbing fact.... HERE IS THE PART THAT IS! VERY INTERESTING!
Margarine is but ONE MOLECULE away from being PLASTIC..

This fact alone was enough to have me avoiding margarine for life and anything else that is hydrogenated (this means hydrogen is added, changing the molecular structure of the substance).


You can try this yourself:

Purchase a tub of margarine and leave it in your garage or shaded area. Within a couple of days you will note a couple of things:

* no flies, not even those pesky fruit flies will go near it (that should tell you something)

* it does not rot or smell differently because it has no nutritional value; nothing will grow on it Even those teeny weeny microorganisms will not a find a home to grow. Why? Because it is nearly plastic. Would you melt your Tupperware and spread that on your toast?
Can Anyone Confirmed If This is True? If So, I think we better start boycott Margarine..... :o

[Life Ranger]

When I first wrote about the serious health dangers of margarine & hydrogenated oils, there were many that thought I was nuts. Interesting how when one keeps telling the truth, eventually people will start to listen.

I hope and pray that this will continue across the country and more and more cities and states will not only ask, but inact laws to ban hydrogenated oils/trans fats as well as other chemicals in food like sweetener Aspartame, also known as Equal and Nutrasweet, in soft drink.

In 1957, margarines began to out sell butter. During the process of hydrogenation, hydrogen atoms are moved to what is called the opposite side of the double bond of the molecular structure of the fatty acid in the oil. Click here http://www.dldewey.com/hydroil.htm to see the molecular change in graph.

http://www.dldewey.com/hydroil.htm

[danbee]

Question !:

From what raw material, that they use, to get THEIR magerine.
From your post, They mixed all kind of staff to get their magerine. Correct me if I am wrong.
In Malaysia we use natural Oil Palm oil. Very high in Vit.E, C and other minerals. The yellow looking magerine in Malaysia is from the palm seeds.
You should take a look at the freshly squeezed/ pressed out palm oil in the refinery. The colour is beautifully reddish (not blood red) but very plesent red.
To ease your mind, send your article to the star or the authroty concern to justify their comment.

[Life Ranger]

Question !: From what raw material, that they use, to get THEIR magerine. From your post, They mixed all kind of staff to get their magerine. Correct me if I am wrong. In Malaysia we use natural Oil Palm oil. Very high in Vit.E, C and other minerals.....
It is not the material that matter, it is the process, Hydrogenation. What process do you use to make margarine ? :)

[Life Ranger]

What are hydrogenated oils and what is the process? When and why were they invented?

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There is an explicit copyright notice in that webpage and it says -

This column is copyrighted and may not be posted on any message board without the express written permission of Mr. Dewey or his agent.
Why can't people understand simple English? :mad:

http://www.dldewey.com/hydroil.htm

[birdy]

So, is that means that there is no safe cooking oil in this earth as well? I believe all cooking oils will Hydrogenated too....

That would mean one thing... no more eating fried food.. .only consume steam or boiled food... :o

[danbee]

It is not the material that matter, it is the process, Hydrogenation. What process do you use to make margarine ? :)

I won't know how our margerine is made. Give me sometime to contact my friend who is in Planta. Will ask him what process they use.
Will hydrogenation really affect the results of the end product to such a serious nature?

I know how they process their raw palm oil. Raw palm oil smell great (not the crude waste, its stinks)The colour is really beautiful. The amount of minerials
and vitamines is high. It has got the highest content of antioxcident.
Very high in vit.C, A and E.
They have already marketed their Vit. E under the name of ECOVID.
Hope our palm oil magerine is not in their bad books.

[Life Ranger]

Don't know how they make the cooking oils. Perhaps not all use hydrogenation process. Any cooking oils makers here please enlighten us.

The cold-pressed extra virgin olive oil says it is "purely acquired by mechanical means". Should be not hydrogenated gua. :o

[Life Ranger]

I know how they process their raw palm oil. Raw palm oil smell great (not the crude waste, its stinks)The colour is really beautiful...
How actually is the process ?

:confused:

[danbee]

Life Ranger,

Try this web. PDA.Palmoil.com or palmoils@mpob.gov.my
Can get yo answers there. Cheers.

[firefox]

our forefathers enjoyed the thick spread of the australian butter n cheese on their bread and stayed alive for decades so i am continuing their lifestyle ..so far my heart is free of any danger :)

[danbee]

[QUOTE=Life Ranger]How actually is the process ? Just to give you a fast run up of the process of palm oil.

The bunches of palm fruits are collected from the fruit store area and loaded into a row of long trucks/ cars sitting on railway track that leads to a row of boilers.
The trucks are than pushed into the biolers.; Palm Fruits will be steamed for a few hours (cook). Once done, this trucks are pull / taken out and send an area where the trucks / cars are lifted up together with the palm fruits and loaded into a "shaker/ vibrator. There the palm fruits are saperated from the stock.
The stock will end up in the rubbish collection area while the steamed fruits are send to the crusher machine. Here they are crushed and out come the oil.
This raw oils are then fed into a centrifuge machine that spining at a few thousand revolution per sec. to separate the water from the oil.
What comes out now is the pure beautiful red oil that we use for our cooking.

Very brief discription of the process. Actual ones will take one book of papers.

Wookay my friend!

Cheers

[Life Ranger]

Danbee,

I believe this is crude oil before refinery and bottled. Of course it is edible but it is not to be sold in the shops yet right ? or is it ?

:confused:

[danbee]

Danbee,

I believe this is crude oil before refinery and bottled. Of course it is edible but it is not to be sold in the shops yet right ? or is it ?

:confused:

Yes this are crude clean oil. Still need to be treated before packing for the housewife.
Other than palm oil magerine, The palm cooking oil is safe to take.

The people who posted the article on magerine and butter could be working with other compititors oil company to promote their oil.

Just like: "Dont buy proton, yak yak yak yak! Buy kanchil." That kind of staff.

[Life Ranger]

Yes this are crude clean oil. Still need to be treated before packing for the housewife....
That is what we are talking about, the process. This crude will be treated/refined in another factory like Chap Pisau etc. Do they use Hydrogenation Process to treat the oil or not ? Or there are other processes which do not creat Trans-fat ?

[birdy]

The people who posted the article on magerine and butter could be working with other compititors oil company to promote their oil.

Just like: "Dont buy proton, yak yak yak yak! Buy kanchil." That kind of staff.
Just to clarify your doubt.. I ain't working in any margarine or butter company. So, I ain't promoting anything.... I am mere into health conciousness.
:cool:

[danbee]

Just to clarify your doubt.. I ain't working in any margarine or butter company. So, I ain't promoting anything.... I am mere into health conciousness.
:cool:

Birdy, do not get me wrong. I am not refering to you working in thr mer/ butter company.
What I am trying to say here is that whoever wrote that report about how margerine or butter is made and is bad for the consumers could be from any other edible oil company. Its a sales tatic. "We kill one we capture their market".
The Americans once condam our palm oil. Trying to stop it from going into their country. But our Mr. Lim Keng Yiek blast them down to earth with proof of its neutricious value.
So birdy Don't get upset. Cheers.

[danbee]

Birdy:

The people who posted the article on magerine and butter could be working.

OK.Birdy, Going back to my post I Appologise. My mistake for wrongly wording that part." The people who posted the article"
It should be Dr,Sara Raynolds.......

[mon]

This is the old thread that Life Ranger posted up not too long ago, there were some pretty good discussions in regards to the difference between Margarine and Butter.

Take a read. (http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/upload/showthread.php?t=10893)

[birdy]

Birdy:

The people who posted the article on magerine and butter could be working.

OK.Birdy, Going back to my post I Appologise. My mistake for wrongly wording that part." The people who posted the article"
It should be Dr,Sara Raynolds.......
Don't worry danbee... I am not angry .. just want to clarify any doubts of yours... cheers. Looks like u very support our palm oil... are u working in any of the palm oil company? ;)

[danbee]

Don't worry danbee... I am not angry .. just want to clarify any doubts of yours... cheers. Looks like u very support our palm oil... are u working in any of the palm oil company? ;)

No la.Birdy. Not working with any of them. But have sold alot of equipment to them.
That is why I have some (little) knowledge about the product. We are now trying to introduce to them a product that can take away the smally part of their waste sludge.
As to support I am not, but check with the palmoil industry for the benifits of their product. Cheers.

[birdy]

This is the old thread that Life Ranger posted up not too long ago, there were some pretty good discussions in regards to the difference between Margarine and Butter.

Take a read. (http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/upload/showthread.php?t=10893)
Thanks Mon for the link... but seem like Life Ranger has been shot left, right and centre.... no one believe him... Hmm.. just wonder if this article posted by the doctor is true?

[mon]

You're welcome. Life Ranger knows his stuff but for me, I tak tahu la. I know nuts about nutrition, I just eat everything in moderation now, margarine and butter inclusive. Seriously I was wondering if margarine is so hazardous to health, why are so many types of margarine still sold on the shelves? I like them as they're easier to spread taken straight from the fridge, unlike butter. But of cos, I would prefer the taste of butter to margarine. Which reminds me of kopitiam's butter kaya toast. haha..

:)

[Firefly]

Don't eat also die, eat also die...no difference, So who cares as long as not too heavy on the pocket.

[birdy]

don't eat .. maybe live longer...
eat ... die faster and more terrible... hahahaah :D
Anyway.. that's the kidding part only................

Nowadays .. we can die from many many source.. not only food... what we breath in also, what we drink also... what we touch also.. even we din touch also... hai.... So, as long as u can live happy... just eat moderately ... anything good if consume excessively will become bad... right or wrong?? :confused:

[danbee]

firefly:
Eat also die don't eat also die: SO EAT PLANTY PLANTY (NOT PLANTA) Maybe become lagi strong in every thing. Mana tahu!! lagi swiee samo. :D :D

[pottle]

found a fwd-ed email in reply to the butter vs margerine myth...interesting..
just copy and paste here below...


I find that the forwarded email below is just a sabotage to margerine.

If you go to google, and type ' margerine better than butter', you have a long list of study and research with that topic.
Same goes if you type 'butter better than margerine'.

There can be quite a lot of different formulation of margerines in the world and is a bit absurd to generalize margerine like that.

Just note that I'm also not attacking butter in anyway, but I find that margerine is not as bad as mentioned.

I find that these kind of forwarded emails like below should not be taken seriously as there is too many generalizations made without real supporting data.

I also encourage my friends sometimes to avoid simply forwarding unfactual emails like below because it can destroy one perception over certain products although the product may have been fine. Also apply to mails that shows sick or hospitalized person that gets money donated to them for every forwarded emails. Too naive to believe in those. Why waste your time?

You can share this with your friends too.

The general rule of thumb - eat everything in moderation.


Margarine was originally manufactured to fatten turkeys. When it killed the turkeys, the people who had put all the money into the research wanted a payback so they put their heads together to figure out what to do with this product to get their money back. It was a white substance with no food appeal so they added the yellow coloring and sold it to people to use in place of butter. How do you like it? They have come out with some clever new flavorings.
- well, I didn't find this history evidence in wikipedia, so this could be a made-up right? The story I heard was that margerine was a cheaper alternative to butter and for the poorer people, it was a blessing for them to have margerine created cause it gives almost the same taste and feel of a butter.

DO YOU KNOW.. the difference between margarine and butter?

Read on to the end...gets very interesting!

Both have the same amount of calories.
- very unlikely. if you refer to the nutrition information table on the pack, you'll rarely find them both having the same calories.

Butter is slightly higher in saturated fats at 8 grams compared to 5 grams.
- I wonder what is the thought behind this statement. Saturated fat is healthier?

Eating margarine can increase heart disease in women by 53% over eating the same amount of butter, according to a recent Harvard Medical Study.
- It'd have been good if there is supporting result with the details of the professor and year of the study being shared. Globally, there are tonnes of researchers saying butter is good, and like wise, another tonnes of researchers saying margerine is better than butter.

Eating butter increases the absorption of many other nutrients in other foods.

Butter has many nutritional benefits where margarine has a few
only because they are added!
- Is true that some margerine has added vitamins. Infact, these added vitamins actually made margerine more nutritional compare to butter depending on the brands. That's why margerine helps to promote kids growth with all these additional nutritions.

Butter tastes much better than margarine and it can enhance the flavors of other foods.
- Is up to the individual taste bud.

Butter has been around for centuries where margarine has been around for less than 100 years .
- can't find this in wikipedia too, so no comments.

And now, for Margarine...

Very high in trans fatty acids .
Triple risk of coronary heart disease .
Increases total cholesterol and LDL (this is the bad cholesterol) and lowers HDL cholesterol, (the good cholesterol)
Increases the risk of cancers up to five fold.
Lowers quality of breast milk.
Decreases immune response.
Decreases insulin response.
- It is so obvious the above 7 statements are generalized statements..
If it is that bad, the health ministry would have ban margerine isn't it?
Even Singapore being the most strict country in terms of health requirements are selling margerine.

And here's the most disturbing fact.... HERE IS THE PART THAT IS VERY INTERESTING!

Margarine is but ONE MOLECULE away from being PLASTIC..

This fact alone was enough to have me avoiding margarine for life and anything else that is hydrogenated (this means hydrogen is added, changing the molecular structure of the substance).
- hydrogenation is a process to convert liquid to solid in oil. But the hydrogenation is usually capped at a level that will not jeapordize health. thus, the health ministry still allows margerine / oil companies to sell as long they adhere to the level required. make sense right?

You can try this yourself:

Purchase a tub of margarine and leave it in your garage or shaded area. Within a couple of days you will note a couple of things:

* no flies, not even those pesky fruit flies will go near it (that should tell you something)

* it does not rot or smell differently because it has no nutritional value ; nothing will grow on it. Even those teeny weeny microorganisms will not a find a home to grow. Why? Because it is nearly plastic . Would you melt your Tupperware and spread that on your toast?

- Margerine uses vegetable oil so it'll definitely have a shelf life to it.
If it is plastic, then all the margerines sold in the world won't need to have expiry date printed on the product anymore. Enough said right?


Share This With Your Friends...... (If you want to "butter them up")!
- Share this with your friends if you want to EDUCATE them up...

Chinese Proverb:
"When someone shares something of value with you and you benefit from it, you have a moral obligation to share it with others."

- only if you know the true facts and not swayed but generalized statements. So, DO IT !

[KH EE]

read this chapter here = http://www.oralchelation.net/heartdisease/ChapterThree/page3.htm


Well-done research shows that consumption of margarine increases the chances of cancer.