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kokomo
30-10-2006, 01:19 PM
I believe this is what most of us are facing. Most girls don't like to go after good guys? I don't understand the reason for it and I have no answer over it.

Good guys don't smoke, don't look at other girls, don't flirt and most importantly they are so innocent. Why most girls reject such guys? Always wanting to go after guys that can make them float, feel good but insecure.

So can anyone help to clear this doubt of mine?

TiNKeRFY
30-10-2006, 01:44 PM
hmm.... your description of a good guy sounds almost like me...
but then again.. your query is a very subjective one lar..
not all gals are like that.. ;)

kokomo
30-10-2006, 01:46 PM
You're just lucky to hit 1 in million good girls to like a good guy like you.

I didn't say all girls are like that but most of them are. Majority.

birdy
30-10-2006, 01:59 PM
Good guys don't smoke, don't look at other girls, don't flirt and most importantly they are so innocent.
Friend, tell me... which guy never look at girls? You walk along the streets, inside shopping complex.... don't tell me you shut your eyes and guided by a stick! I don't think one is bad guy merely b'coz he watches girls.


Why most girls reject such guys? Always wanting to go after guys that can make them float, feel good but insecure.
If there is such a guy... normally it is too nice to be true. He may be very pure...So, guess girls worried she might just going out with a stick...not romantic enough. I believe everyone, inclusive of guys do like romantic moments with their loved ones.

Lastly, I don't really agree with you that girls will reject good guys who doesn't smoke... I am a good example how I managed to win my wife's heart. :D In my opinion, relationship is a two way traffic, if only one gives and no return... sure the one giving out will be bored down. So, it is more of the responsiveness of the guy rather than habits of the guy. :cool:

AllUrban
30-10-2006, 02:16 PM
K, here's how I see it...

ladies go for men who are exciting and make them feel like women...at first...but after the relationship is in place and kids are there, the need is for a reliable man is more important

"bad boys" are exciting and sexy at first, but they lose their lustre later on, because women ultimately want the strong, confident man...

So you can resolve this problem very easily....dont try to be a bad boy...just project confidence, strength, intelligence, and sex appeal....and dont stop projecting that even after you've got their attention...so you will always be appealing

Dont be a wimp, be a challenge. Dont agree to women always, be spontaneous, keep them on their toes, turn the tables around, dont compliment them directly :p make the ladies chase you...and above all have a sense of humour because women love to laugh :D

try it and it will work ... and if you need more info, visit www.askmen.com and read what Doc Love has to say :p

Cheers, m

TiNKeRFY
30-10-2006, 02:20 PM
Friend, tell me... which guy never look at girls? You walk along the streets, inside shopping complex.... don't tell me you shut your eyes and guided by a stick! I don't think one is bad guy merely b'coz he watches girls.


If there is such a guy... normally it is too nice to be true. He may be very pure...So, guess girls worried she might just going out with a stick...not romantic enough. I believe everyone, inclusive of guys do like romantic moments with their loved ones.



hehe.. you'll never know if there's a actual one around... :)

LMei
30-10-2006, 03:11 PM
Friend, tell me... which guy never look at girls? You walk along the streets, inside shopping complex.... don't tell me you shut your eyes and guided by a stick! I don't think one is bad guy merely b'coz he watches girls.


Yeah... my hubby is a good guy (so he often reminds me!). Don't smoke, don't drink, don't go clubbing... but definitely looks at girls. heh! And a charmer! (probably why I fell for him)

But he's also honest and straight forward. I like guys with personality, who knows what he wants. Instead of anything you like honey. Though there should still be occassions of that ;) Can't be just everything he wants.

All in all, if a guy is himself... you can tell. If he's too nice, you get suspicious... you wonder is that what he's really like all the time?

firefox
30-10-2006, 03:34 PM
if you ask i girl what she wants in a man she will never tell the truth be cause all she wants is to marry rich a man.. thats why you see many pretty girls have ugly rich man has their husband.

sherrygin
30-10-2006, 04:26 PM
if you ask i girl what she wants in a man she will never tell the truth be cause all she wants is to marry rich a man.. thats why you see many pretty girls have ugly rich man has their husband.

Very strong words firefox.

We are all different individuals - and different people want different things. But to stereotype that all girls are out to snag rich men, I think you are being very unfair in your statement. Maybe you haven't been fortunate enough to meet girls who are not materialistic.

For those girls who DO marry ugly rich men, why are you chiding only the womenfolk? What about the ugly rich men who cradle-snatch just to secure trophy wives? Why don't you say something about these men?

Let's be fair when making comments.

evelynlim
30-10-2006, 05:53 PM
Maybe you haven't been fortunate enough to meet girls who are not materialistic.


My husband is fortunate enough to meet me :D
Kokomo, I actually looking for a good guy to be my partner. Non smoker, non drinker and honest.
Well, the young generation maybe different now. First their upbringings, their circle of friends and movies/show that they've been watching.....
So, do you want to be the good or bad guy huh? :p

kokomo
30-10-2006, 06:59 PM
Evelynlim, very tough question you giving me here. HMmm ... let me think :rolleyes: Ok, I drink, smoke, look at girls, gambles (during CNY), party, socialise more than normal time, date girls, speed, got summons as thick as my yellow pages, bribes & the list goes on and on .... bla bla bla ... so do I still consider good guy or bad guy? :confused:

Errr ... did I mention bad boys image in here? I think I said wild man around. Bad means bad, wild can means many diff thing and ways.

Haha .. Birdy, you this good example already taken, so you're not consider. Out of the league'lah.

TinkerFY, AllUrban, Kress & JayChou & KakiLang are diff. These are really good boys and guys. One of the million diff kind from me. Sorry'lah if I didn't mention rest of you guys name. List would be very long. :D

Yes, I understand not everyone can agree with anyone or everyone. So can a guy accept a girl that smokes, while they themselves don't smoke? Not many men can accept that in true fact.

AllUrban
30-10-2006, 08:49 PM
TinkerFY, AllUrban, Kress & JayChou & KakiLang are diff. These are really good boys and guys. One of the million diff kind from me. awwww....c'mon, K :rolleyes:

I'm trying to develop a rep for myself in Malaysia :cool: and now you're saying Im a really good guy...and online.... :eek:

:p oy, vy dont you kick me in the ganoolies right now, it would be less painful :p

hey, seriously.....just dont let this question concern you, I mean it...why trouble yourself over a topic that just cannot be understood....there are 6.3 billion people on this planet and I can bet you that they will all have different views about this issue....and their views will change at different times in their life...

Cheers, m

romi_o
31-10-2006, 12:18 AM
kokomo, unbelievable that u started this thread... i thought u'r the hitch, the godfather of relationship :O
anyway, there are a lot of trees out there in this world... don't let go of a whole forest for a tree :D

about the one u said about smoking, i don't really care if one person smokes... as long as he/she knows that smoking is harmful to the person around him/her and they know when to stop smoking, it's fine with me... smoking doesn't mean one is bad, just unhealthy...

materialistics? well, why are we blaming girls prefer rich guys and guys prefer pretty girls?? just said this is realistic... haha, come on, it's a real world out there, and u can do/like whatever u like as long as u don't interfere with others... and not all people are like that

i do consider myself a good guy (and my friends said so too, both male and female), so does that make me a less competitive person? no... haha, i'm trying hard to find the one for me, the one that is willing to stay by my side and share our ups and downs together...
just be who u r and when the time comes, u'll find the one... ;)
just make sure u r ready then, haha!

kokomo, good luck hunting!

PS: i have a link to a website for guys wanted to learn some courting skills, PM me if u r interested...

kwchang
31-10-2006, 12:44 AM
What's all these "good" and "bad" stuff?
Don't you agree that there is no "black" or "white" definitions to things around us? There are millions of shades of grey if you will. So, why are people so judgemental? How can anyone say someone is a good guy or a bad guy? Everything is relative. One man's meat ... and all that jazz.

Oh, by the way, love is blind.

Let me tell you singles out there with your butterfly nets, bear traps and hunting catapaults ... once cupid hits you, your long list of must-haves would dissolve like the papyrus in Langdon's cryptrix. Oh boy, when you meet your dreamboat, when your heart miss that beat, you will be surprised how come you made a list of the "good" qualities.

kokomo
31-10-2006, 01:25 AM
Hahah ... even Chang is giving advise here. This is a pretty good thread ain't it. Nah, this thread it ain't for me Romi bruder ... I just wanna know and see how many ppl react to it. It seems everyone has their own point and views and its good to know and learn from each other.

Hmmm .. website to learn courting? I don't think I really need it. But thanks anyway. Like you said I'm the hitch :D :p To have a relationship you don't need luck. You need opposites attract. So question is, how are you gonna attract opposite sexes? :confused: :rolleyes:

Yes, AllUrban, I won't change my mind bout you. You're definitely a good guy in M'sia. Your rep have already been develop here. Hehehe ...

*tsk tsk ... still want me to kick you ganoolies? Hehe ... I can do that for FREE! :D

Cheers mate ... :cool:

firefox
31-10-2006, 12:54 PM
Maybe you haven't been fortunate enough to meet girls who are not materialistic
exactly, unfortunately after a few dates they expose their true colours..oneday i will meet my dreamboat who will accept me as i am a pauper.

aRwEn
31-10-2006, 02:17 PM
if you ask i girl what she wants in a man she will never tell the truth be cause all she wants is to marry rich a man.. thats why you see many pretty girls have ugly rich man has their husband.


hmm... thatz not true 4 all galz la.... i know a guy fren who iz poor but a lotta galz admire n like him.... n some even 'chase' him.... he iznt considered good-lookin by most galz, but iz presentable.... knowz how 2 carry himself properly, iz a gentleman n knowz how 2 treat d galz, has a 'warm' personality....
ie he iz d boy nx door type, n definitely a 'good' boy as defined...

unfortunately, he iz a bit idealistic n haz quite high expectatnz, n he duznt like any those galz.... so he iz stil single.... hmmm..... ;)

ginaphan
31-10-2006, 02:17 PM
Actually you got the answer already ....


Always wanting to go after guys that can make them float, feel good but insecure.

But you need to re-arrange the words a bit:

"wanting to fo after guys that make them feel good" (The 'insecure' part may not always be true)

That's the key!

Knowing what makes grils feel good is where you need to work on since every girl is different.

TiNKeRFY
31-10-2006, 06:07 PM
hmm... thatz not true 4 all galz la.... i know a guy fren who iz poor but a lotta galz admire n like him.... n some even 'chase' him.... he iznt considered good-lookin by most galz, but iz presentable.... knowz how 2 carry himself properly, iz a gentleman n knowz how 2 treat d galz, has a 'warm' personality....
ie he iz d boy nx door type, n definitely a 'good' boy as defined...

unfortunately, he iz a bit idealistic n haz quite high expectatnz, n he duznt like any those galz.... so he iz stil single.... hmmm..... ;)

hmm... let's just hope your friend don't prefer Men over Women...

KakiLang
31-10-2006, 06:43 PM
He is still single becoz there r no attractive gals admire him just yet mah... :D

KakiLang
31-10-2006, 06:55 PM
hmm... thatz not true 4 all galz la.... i know a guy fren who iz poor but a lotta galz admire n like him.... n some even 'chase' him.... he iznt considered good-lookin by most galz, but iz presentable.... knowz how 2 carry himself properly, iz a gentleman n knowz how 2 treat d galz, has a 'warm' personality....
ie he iz d boy nx door type, n definitely a 'good' boy as defined...

unfortunately, he iz a bit idealistic n haz quite high expectatnz, n he duznt like any those galz.... so he iz stil single.... hmmm..... ;)

Mebbe Piggy meets his high expectations?? :rolleyes:

Piggy
31-10-2006, 10:12 PM
Piggie is right here thinking kakilang ... this one is very subjective to answer this thread!

you might be right kokomo :confused: but you might be wrong...

For me, bad/good also equal. Most importantly is that individual is actually looking for sincere & WILLING to build a relationship. Seriously! Even if that gurl looks for that "bad' guy, but eventually that relationship will not last coz there will be lotsa problems... trust me!

Last time, I used to like this idea "NO STRING ATTACHED" relationship until my ex- appeared! But he disappointed me and now, pretty not sure about my future with my future bf.. this is why i'm very hesitant of starting any relationship, sort of fed-up & am more careful in selecting someone to be my partner for life.. hurts me terribly.

birdy
31-10-2006, 11:39 PM
In my opinion.... whether good or bad guy ... should not be an issue in deciding your partner. (NB. Bad guy here is referred to as smoker, drinker.. and not those robber, terrorist, etc ;) )

The reason being ... before marriage .. he can be as good as Angel...after married, he can changed into bad guy, smoking, drinking, gambling, etc.etc..I personally witnessed such situation. I think one should consider the comfortability of the relationship, whether you can talk to him/her everything, etc..

Having said that...of course if the guy is really bad before marriage...although there is still a chance of turning into Angel after marriage...better don't gamble your chance. :cool:

Why want to suffer in the relationship just b'coz u want to choose a good guy when you cannot get along with him/her (maybe he is very secretive guy or he has no humour at all, etc..)

scorgio
01-11-2006, 12:12 AM
Probably nowadays, girls b4 30 r looking for joy & excitement, only after 30 they start to look for stability.

So keep searching. U never know who u might bump into.

orchipalar
01-11-2006, 01:27 AM
exactly, unfortunately after a few dates they expose their true colours..oneday i will meet my dreamboat who will accept me as i am a pauper.
So keep searching. U never know who u might bump into.Err...someone is looking out for a good guy...?

Ahem...heard this from the GOOD guys...

Ask...n it shall be given to you...
Seek...n you shall find...
Knock...n it shall be opened to you...

TiNKeRFY
01-11-2006, 01:31 AM
Ask...n it shall be given to you...
Seek...n you shall find...
Knock...n it shall be opened to you...

this really sounds like you're looking for the Sago Worms!! :D

OOPS!! Offtopic warning for me.. :p

kokomo
01-11-2006, 01:46 AM
No Strings Attached still sound very good to me. Heheh ... :)

Eh, Orchi-san, what you meant is knock on the their heads to wake up to reality is it? Heheheh ... no more good guys around. Mostly married or attached already. Right? Right?

Ok ok, back to topic now .... do girls like guys being mysterious? Unpredictable?

Scorgio .... I think girls started looking for stability men even before they turn 30. Does that mean men who are more stable not fun and exciting at all? No more vibrant?

TiNKeRFY
01-11-2006, 02:12 AM
unpredictable can also lead to potong stim you know.. so be prepared if you like unpredicable men of mystery..

Scenario:
Its Valentine's day. Guy hiding something behind his back and ask the gal to guess what's he up to.

Girl: is it flowers?
Guy: No, try again.
Girl: its jewelry (high hopes)
Guy: Nah, I wouldn't want to spoil you.
Girl: I give up.
Guy: TADA!! its my car keys.. I'll send you home now cos I'm meeting my other group of friends.
Girl: Face darker than "Pao Ching Tien" aka Justice Pao

:D

kokomo
01-11-2006, 02:17 AM
Farnie!!!! :mad:

:p

TiNKeRFY
01-11-2006, 02:19 AM
Farnie!!!! :mad:

:p

You've done this before, haven't you? :D :D

jianwei85
01-11-2006, 02:24 AM
unpredictable can also lead to potong stim you know.. so be prepared if you like unpredicable men of mystery..

Scenario:
Its Valentine's day. Guy hiding something behind his back and ask the gal to guess what's he up to.

Girl: is it flowers?
Guy: No, try again.
Girl: its jewelry (high hopes)
Guy: Nah, I wouldn't want to spoil you.
Girl: I give up.
Guy: TADA!! its my car keys.. I'll send you home now cos I'm meeting my other group of friends.
Girl: Face darker than "Pao Ching Tien" aka Justice Pao

:D


no la..it goes :

Scenario:
Its Valentine's day. Guy hiding something behind his back and ask the gal to guess what's he up to.

Girl: is it flowers?
Guy: No, try again.
Girl: its jewelry (high hopes)
Guy: Nah, I wouldn't want to spoil you.
Girl: I give up.
Guy: TADA!! its my car keys.. You'll drive my car home..as i'm following my other group of friends.
Girl: Face darker than "Pao Ching Tien" aka Justice Pao
(Then a big slap & a nasty phone hang up on the face)

:D

kokomo
01-11-2006, 02:28 AM
Nope have not done that before but then again, is pretty a good idea to every guy to learn that trick. Heheh .... :D

You've just gave another bad influence .... :p So how now? Can give a better scenario of being unpredictable and mysterious?

TiNKeRFY
01-11-2006, 02:45 AM
Nope have not done that before but then again, is pretty a good idea to every guy to learn that trick. Heheh .... :D

You've just gave another bad influence .... :p So how now? Can give a better scenario of being unpredictable and mysterious?

wat if your gf was so upset and since she has your car keys, she decides to drive around "Rempit" style?
Possibly after the "rempit" session, your car end up with damages, petrol habis, tyre botak, and best of all, SAMAN for speeding.

So you end up paying for all of the above, no $$ left. Potong stim rite?

jianwei85
01-11-2006, 02:50 AM
Start of dinner scenario.

Enquire bout the lady's preference (whether she is free on so&so, what she likes to do, eat,etc --basically data mining)

Set up a date for two. (no need bother bout occasion)
Pre-arrange: Menu, decorations (balloons,candles,ribbons), seat placing.

Just tell her to dress up nicely.

Punctually show up at her doorstep with a door gift (dressed appropriately). Maybe a small pouch with flowers for the lady. Drive her to the restaurant while you play a smooth jazz track to soothen her mood (if after work).

Once at the restaurant, just guide her into the restaurant. The view of the set up would surprise her. Then, of coz bring out the usual charmer (or enhanced version that nite) in you. Talk bout the food sparingly (eventhough bad or good..avoid it). Ask bout her, pay attention and listen. Paraphrase, if needed. Try not to talk bout serious topics. eg. politics or sports (unless u know wat she's interested in).

Try not to divulge too much information bout yourself, pretend you didn't heard it or jz change the topic. That will increase your mysteriousness. End with a bouquet of flowers. Drop her home with a hug and a kiss (insert place here).

End of dinner scenario.

kokomo
01-11-2006, 02:54 AM
Rule 1: Never ever let your woman drive your car. Thus, avoid all samans and damages & most of all a heart attack.

Rule 2: Always maintain at Rule 1.

:cool:

TiNKeRFY
01-11-2006, 02:55 AM
Rule 1: Never ever let your woman drive your car. Thus, avoid all samans and damages & most of all a heart attack.

Rule 2: Always maintain at Rule 1.

:cool:

*Does not apply if you don't own a car.. :p

vivacious
01-11-2006, 08:19 AM
Last time, I used to like this idea "NO STRING ATTACHED" relationship until my ex- appeared! But he disappointed me and now, pretty not sure about my future with my future bf.. this is why i'm very hesitant of starting any relationship, sort of fed-up & am more careful in selecting someone to be my partner for life.. hurts me terribly.[/QUOTE]

See this why ladies are now afraid of jumping into the next realtionship after what has happend in the pass. Its the fear or ' i don't want to get hurt' with the other person in line. These days guys are just out there either to have fun no strings attach or they r too busy with work. I guess the good guys are hiding somewhere just have to try harder to look for them. I believe that there is that 'one' for each one just have to open our eyes never know they might be there around us all the time.

aRwEn
01-11-2006, 10:54 AM
hmm... let's just hope your friend don't prefer Men over Women...


hahaha... no la, he likez galz, but he juz he expectz tm 2 look drop-dead beautiful la.... so no gal nx door type 4 him.... :p


He is still single becoz there r no attractive gals admire him just yet mah... :D


ya lorrr, actually those galz who went after him.... hmm.... they luk reasonably attractive 2 me but mayb he iz juz a bit choosy la.... ie havta b a certain 'type' lorrr....

furthermore, he duznt believe in 'chemistry' cuz he sayz dat iz based on logic.... it hasta b 'alchemy' ie it must b magical.... hehehehe.... :D

AllUrban
01-11-2006, 11:04 AM
Ideal Date scenario

"Hi, I'm just stepping out for a coffee in about an hour or so....join me and keep me company"

No flowers, no plans, no expectations, nothing serious....just time spent with two people who like to spend time together.....just a chance to be yourself

and most important...no free meal....why should guys dangle the dinner in front of the girl...it's like saying "Im not sure you will accept me for who I am, so I am providing you with dinner to show you that I am a good provider, in the hope that you will accept me."

Man thinks "date + dinner = chances for advances"

Woman thinks "date + dinner = free dinner, the only cost is avoiding possible advances"

Cheers, m

Ginger
01-11-2006, 11:11 AM
There's really no such thing as a 'free drink or dinner'. It's always wiser for a gal to pay for her own, and cabut after that, if she has no intention to take the relationship to another level. Simple isn't it.


Ginger ;)

vivacious
01-11-2006, 01:04 PM
[QUOTE=aRwEn]
hahaha... no la, he likez galz, but he juz he expectz tm 2 look drop-dead beautiful la.... so no gal nx door type 4 him.... :p



thats sp typical of men! but then who won;t look for in a gurl? face first , then body, then heart :cool:

romi_o
01-11-2006, 03:07 PM
See this why ladies are now afraid of jumping into the next realtionship after what has happend in the pass. Its the fear or ' i don't want to get hurt' with the other person in line. These days guys are just out there either to have fun no strings attach or they r too busy with work. I guess the good guys are hiding somewhere just have to try harder to look for them. I believe that there is that 'one' for each one just have to open our eyes never know they might be there around us all the time.

let me see, the "no string attached" idea is actually meant to be friends only, nothing more... i suggested the idea b'cos i think that there should be pure friendships around, not only love or etc...
no string attached means less pressure, and so one can act normally in a circle of friends, hence more interaction and socializing... enlarge ur social circle, it's important in some part of ur life.
btw, about getting hurt, here's one:
i'm already discussing about marriage and future with my ex long time ago before broke up, but she left me anyway... yes, it hurts :( but i think i'll survive, haha~
i think that "no string attached" relationship is to encourage one to make more friends, not only b'cos one wants to get involved in a relationship. if one thinks that this guy/gal is the one meant for u, then u can choose to step forward and go for a more serious relationship...

pls try not to turn this thread into war between genders ;) it's a good thread, let's keep it that way.


cheers from Nashville, TN, USA... happy belated halloween :D

AllUrban
01-11-2006, 07:39 PM
i think that "no string attached" relationship is to encourage one to make more friends, not only b'cos one wants to get involved in a relationship. if one thinks that this guy/gal is the one meant for u, then u can choose to step forward and go for a more serious relationship...Doc Love on askmen.com says that a man needs to date lots of women before he can make a realistic and reasonable choice about who to stay with for the long term

and while you date these women, you have to just have fun and enjoy yourself and enjoy their company...no pressure, no expectations, no issues, just be yourself...just coffee, chatting, outdoor activities, etc.

and after a while if you find that yourself happens to be interested in herself....and that interest seems to be increasing...then there is potential for things to get closer and more personal.

I agree, though I wonder how it is possible to date as many women as he suggests...even if you dated 3 women per week it would take years

Cheers, m

kokomo
02-11-2006, 01:37 AM
Err ... I think guys out to have fun and being busy wif work are pretty normal.

Fun = release stressed or tension after work.
Busy wif work = have to concentrate on their rice bowl ... otherwise how to provide good future for the other half and also themselves and also family.

Dating does not mean you have to be committed. It simply means gettin' to know the other person better and out to have a good time. Any other thing more than that, is at your own decision.

NO Strings Attached = Good time! :cool:

vivacious
02-11-2006, 08:34 AM
[QUOTE=romi_o]let me see, the "no string attached" idea is actually meant to be friends only, nothing more... i suggested the idea b'cos i think that there should be pure friendships around, not only love or etc...
no string attached means less pressure, and so one can act normally in a circle of friends, hence more interaction and socializing... enlarge ur social circle, it's important in some part of ur life.
btw, about getting hurt, here's one:
i'm already discussing about marriage and future with my ex long time ago before broke up, but she left me anyway... yes, it hurts :( but i think i'll survive, haha~
i think that "no string attached" relationship is to encourage one to make more friends, not only b'cos one wants to get involved in a relationship. if one thinks that this guy/gal is the one meant for u, then u can choose to step forward and go for a more serious relationship...



I agree with u but then where is the line of just being 'freinds? and a gurlfren? your definetion and mine for no strings attach is very diff. :D I have frens who chooses this no strings attach thingy cos they are either afraid of setttling down or they were hurt in previous relationships before. We r talking about group of men that i know and they say that they will settle down only in their late 40's. Wats that?? They have so many gurls at their feet bt the choose not to be in a relationship with them. Romi, can u explainthis?

sakaibear
02-11-2006, 12:10 PM
dont you people realise? the good men are either taken already and the ones who haven't been taken....are being TAKEN FOR GRANTED!! sick and tired of this nonsense about girls cannot find good men. look around and open your eyes....there are numerous around you! you just dont feel the same for them and that's why you're not together.

from personal experiences (not too many i might add)...girl likes u but not enough to start something. she found someone more interesting.....the dude decides to be nice for a while....then treats her like crap. she then comes running to you and start asking why she chose him, she she was so stupid, how come you and her are not together, haih....i look at them and inside i just want to scream "serve you bloody right! you had your chance but u decided to test the waters elsewhere first" you think what?? i'm not stock nor am i a commodity where u can trade and decide to keep me or not.

.....sudden outburst....sorry :(

vivacious
02-11-2006, 12:17 PM
cool bear, there r gurls like that but u can't blame them for being that way or may i add 'choosy'. Yeah i know the good ones r out there n sometimes the good ones are the one even standing in front of them in the face but they r too blind to see it. I guess we gurls r a wee bit overboard when it comes to men. We will test other waters first then when we get hurt then we will seek the one who was right there beside us ever waiting. Its like playing ping pong.

sakaibear
02-11-2006, 12:25 PM
thank you!! at least one girl agrees with me. you know how many denied that outright?! it's just garbage. but yeah...choosy is what most ppl have that leads them to their downfall. at least in relationship sense. the good guys will most likely be sought after when they're in their 30's. that's when women start looking for security and for long term. someone to start a family with. sucks but what to do. :o

KelvC
02-11-2006, 12:38 PM
"Mama always said life was like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're gonna get." Forrest Gump (1994)

"Sometimes the best person for you is right infront of you but, as human beings, we always look for the best and the brightest and the greatest possible candidate. By the time you've travel to the moon and back, that closest person has moved on." KelvC (2006) :D

vivacious
02-11-2006, 12:42 PM
I guess certain people have to go through all the ugliest experience first then only we will find the good ones in the end.sigh*

sakaibear
02-11-2006, 12:52 PM
true....you wont know the good till you know the bad

alexhay
02-11-2006, 02:02 PM
i do agree what sakaibear said. I been through a few and always the reason there is someone better out there. Actually was chatting with a colleague of mine and she kinda show her interest in me, but when I tell my religion, she immediately say that cannot. She wants someone same religion with her and ask me if I can convert. Then I asked her, why religion is the issue when comes to a relationship. Her answer, dont want any problem in the future. So now we remain as colleague.

Then another colleague also the same, but this time even worst, she say that if I am older than her she will consider. Then when I drill down more, actually its the education and RACE. I am a non diploma or degree holder and she is a degree holder. So whats the point. Where I am today is from my work experience. And what a race got to do in a relationship ? I seen people from different races getting married.

To me in a relationship, most important is tolerance, understanding and communication.

sakaibear
02-11-2006, 02:32 PM
alexhay, i do agree with u on the race issue. but sad to say it's been instilled in lots of people since they were young. especially chinese.....a lot of chinese parents will tell their kids to not marry anyone other than chinese....more like encourage them not too la. but it's like that wan la...what to do. if they cannot accept u based on race then they're not really meant for you. problems will occurr later on. but hey.....look on the bright side. nowadays society is becoming more and more receptive towards interacial relationships. so, it's just a matter of time before the old style thinking fades away.

AllUrban
02-11-2006, 02:51 PM
i do agree what sakaibear said. I been through a few and always the reason there is someone better out there. Actually was chatting with a colleague of mine and she kinda show her interest in me, but when I tell my religion, she immediately say that cannot. She wants someone same religion with her and ask me if I can convert. Then I asked her, why religion is the issue when comes to a relationship. Her answer, dont want any problem in the future. So now we remain as colleague.

Then another colleague also the same, but this time even worst, she say that if I am older than her she will consider. Then when I drill down more, actually its the education and RACE. I am a non diploma or degree holder and she is a degree holder. So whats the point. Where I am today is from my work experience. And what a race got to do in a relationship ? I seen people from different races getting married.

To me in a relationship, most important is tolerance, understanding and communication.That's why you have to drill it down, and sift (wade) through the quicksand that is bad company to find the good company.

hmmm...first time going out with one girlfriend (not even an actual date, just a day of shopping) she told me she couldnt date me, because of race and religion and her parents wouldnt like me.....egad :eek: on the first "date"....

I wonder why I didnt run for the hills.....or tell her to go get &!%^#@?....I remember saying deadpan "well, I hope you understand why I wont be calling you tomorrow" with a little bit of relief and humour added to my voice and a twinkle in my eye. :p

She called me the next day and asked me out....Same issues still existed...so how come?

Possibly because all those pre-existing expectations dont matter when you find a great lady or man. For someone to tell you things like that on the first date...is often a test of who you are as a person....so you have to deal with it...best way is with humour...

Alex, I would have told this lady "yes, I have thought about converting...actually, Ive always wanted to create my own religion...would you be interested in converting to my new religion when I create it?" :D

Once I dated another lady (different race) and she said to me "do you notice that people are staring at us?"

I replied "yeah....and you know why too....because, despite my big nose and ears and my goofy grin, Im still the most handsome guy in here...." :rolleyes:

I think a big problem is that men go to women thinking that they are supplicants, that the woman has the final say in choosing....and Ill be honest...this is actually a true factor in a relationship...but why should you let a woman use that against you, or let it become a weakness for you...better to make it your strength....be aware of this reality and be ready to use this knowledge for your own interests...

Be a MAN....stick up for yourself too, because you dont deserve to be mistreated! And dont let people frustrate you with their actions...if they dont want to be with you, it is their loss, not your loss...so look at frustrating situations and see the possible humour in it :) It will go a long way.

Cheers, m

romi_o
02-11-2006, 03:11 PM
vivacious: well, i don't know how to explain what normal/average guys think (i'm grouped under abnormal guy, a.k.a. extinct, hahaha). the most common reason might be revenge? or afraid of making commitment?
come to think about it, ppl nowadays are not as bold and tough as our parents and previous generations... we think too much and don't dare to do anything, while our forefathers just do it and solve the issue when it shows.
anyway, choosy is also another valid excuse... haha... they might think that if their ex can dump them and go for other guys, why can't they choose someone better than their ex? it's just another circle of life, haha... the never ending loop...

and AllUrban, yes, it's definitely their loss, as u will grow tougher and more mature each time u get hurt, while they still stick with their dreams... until age strucks them...

btw, anyone agreed that guys above 30 is at their peak, while women above 30 is starting to move downhill (physically, both looks and health)?
my friends (male and female) all said that men above 30 will start to have more advantages than women...


cheers from Louisville, KY, USA... cold~

sakaibear
02-11-2006, 03:11 PM
well said allurban.....well said.

vivacious
02-11-2006, 03:17 PM
Thats this pest thats i the forum and recently the pest seeing someone and the pest still bugs this other gurl in the forum who already has a bf. Before that this gurl was too blind to see wat kind of pest this PEST turns out to be! So this pest actually crossed the line and harresed this poor gurl in the forum. Until one day this gurl found someone outside n now dating this guy who turns out to be a very good person and who is willing to stick by her side n won;t leave her side ever!

firefox
02-11-2006, 03:24 PM
falling in love is the most wonderful experience, why it so compilicated for so many, adjustments and trying not to change the ways of your partner are the key to a lifetime relationship...race,colour n status shoudnt be an issue if you are really in love.

PeterHng
02-11-2006, 03:29 PM
Thats this pest thats i the forum and recently the pest seeing someone and the pest still bugs this other gurl in the forum who already has a bf. Before that this gurl was too blind to see wat kind of pest this PEST turns out to be! So this pest actually crossed the line and harresed this poor gurl in the forum. Until one day this gurl found someone outside n now dating this guy who turns out to be a very good person and who is willing to stick by her side n won;t leave her side ever!

shud fumigate this pest. Let it RIP once and for all. If you need the pest control company number pm me. I just used one recently and they are effective. :rolleyes:

It's always good to have someone by our side thru thick and thin... :)

vivacious
02-11-2006, 03:41 PM
Thanks peter. But unforunately this PEST will be continue to contribute in the forum.

PeterHng
02-11-2006, 03:44 PM
Use sentricon la. It shud b able to stop it from molting and eventually the whole colony would die... :D :D

My advice is avoid this pest lor for the time being but if you are already over it and strong now, then face it and exterminate it. ;)

KelvC
02-11-2006, 03:56 PM
Use sentricon la. It shud b able to stop it from molting and eventually the whole colony would die... :D :D ......
For a moment i thought this thread has changed to pest and insecticide until i back tracked the previous pages...phew!

Weird isn't it, the equilibrium for the mating search for man starts at 30 and for the ladies end (well, sort of) at 28(?). Oh, how it has change for the poor straight guy who always stare and asked themselves why in their teenage years in school they could not even get the attention of the popular girls but come 30 the whole game has reversed?

Too bad, married liao, out of the race. :p

Oh by the way, i heard the elephants from Fumakila smacks the mosquitoes silly?!?! :D

PeterHng
02-11-2006, 04:21 PM
For a moment i thought this thread has changed to pest and insecticide until i back tracked the previous pages...phew!

Oh by the way, i heard the elephants from Fumakila smacks the mosquitoes silly?!?! :D

Kelvin, let's just stick to Good girls don't go for good boys ya :D else the 'one eye' may send both of us to the plantation la..

sorry for the digression ya.. :p

sakaibear
02-11-2006, 05:12 PM
the eye in mount doom or the eye of thundera?? hahahaha.....i know definitely not eye of the tiger la :P

kokomo
02-11-2006, 05:58 PM
Hmmm ... guys at 30 is at their peak? I thought it always been at 40? :confused: Anyway, conclusion guys before 30 is what? Under peak? Less wanted? :( I feel for women also the same. As long as we maintain being sociable and keep up wif the trend around, we'll always be at the peak. Regardless of age ya. ;)

Romi, you're not abnormal. You're one of the super duper good guy that I know in here. So girls, he's still in single and available.

Sakaibear is also another good fella, fun, loving and huggable (even for the guys) :D One hell of blardy joker! Keeps you well entertained all nite. :)

mon
02-11-2006, 06:03 PM
But like you've said, good girls don't go for good boys wor so how? What is left for all my bros?


:D

kokomo
02-11-2006, 06:07 PM
Haha ... I think nowadays mind set of certain girls have changed already. There are still some rare ones that goes for good boys. And deep down inside every good boys and girls have their bad side. :D

Agree? :rolleyes:

Piggy
02-11-2006, 06:16 PM
i do agree what sakaibear said. I been through a few and always the reason there is someone better out there. Actually was chatting with a colleague of mine and she kinda show her interest in me, but when I tell my religion, she immediately say that cannot. She wants someone same religion with her and ask me if I can convert. Then I asked her, why religion is the issue when comes to a relationship. Her answer, dont want any problem in the future. So now we remain as colleague.

Then another colleague also the same, but this time even worst, she say that if I am older than her she will consider. Then when I drill down more, actually its the education and RACE. I am a non diploma or degree holder and she is a degree holder. So whats the point. Where I am today is from my work experience. And what a race got to do in a relationship ? I seen people from different races getting married.

To me in a relationship, most important is tolerance, understanding and communication.

Haha.. race definitely an issue to me :D I can't consider anyone who is different race than me.. (no racist issue here) but I do want to maintain that my future grandson / daughter to be chinese too...

Age / Education?? erm.. my ex was 16 years older than me, he was a christian & sort of ONLY senior exec in that company.. am I dating uncle? haha.. don't think so :) that age/religion / education is an issue. It is important that, that person duly understands you :D this is what matters.

mon
02-11-2006, 06:21 PM
Haha ... I think nowadays mind set of certain girls have changed already. There are still some rare ones that goes for good boys. And deep down inside every good boys and girls have their bad side. :D

Agree? :rolleyes:
Like our love expert Chang has said earlier...love is blind. :D I also think, it's best that someone moves pass the superficial 'expectations' and get to know a person for who she or he truly is inside..

alexhay
02-11-2006, 06:36 PM
yeah true... but i did notice a lot of girls only goes for good looking, rich guys..i personally had experience it.

no offence to other ladies...

Piggy
02-11-2006, 06:45 PM
yeah true... but i did notice a lot of girls only goes for good looking, rich guys..i personally had experience it.

no offence to other ladies...

Alex, just forget that incident! Not everyone is like that, it's just your "fate" isn't there yet. Whose know that maybe suddenly you invite us to your wedding dinner :D NEXT YEAR!

alexhay
02-11-2006, 07:15 PM
Alex, just forget that incident! Not everyone is like that, it's just your "fate" isn't there yet. Whose know that maybe suddenly you invite us to your wedding dinner :D NEXT YEAR!

yah lor...maybe the girl us you lehh..

i had already forget the incident already lar... thanks :)

sakaibear
02-11-2006, 07:25 PM
yah lor...maybe the girl us you lehh..

ALEX!! WAH!! trying to trap ppl oredi??!!! hehehehehe...........mana boleh...:P

kokomo
02-11-2006, 07:26 PM
Waa ... Alexhay, it seems like you been thru many experience of many kinds eh ... racial and religion issue, status concious issue, rich & good looking guys issue and etc etc. You can be the Dr Luv in here already. :p

Piggy
02-11-2006, 07:28 PM
ALEX!! WAH!! trying to trap ppl oredi??!!! hehehehehe...........mana boleh...:P

Oops.. now you know! Alexhay, why so honest here :confused: NOW EVERY KNOW :D

sakaibear
02-11-2006, 08:10 PM
hahahaha there's nothing to hide in this forum!! we're all spies....with supersonic radars. :) except kokomo....he maybe considered cnn...hehe :P

Nikki 2
02-11-2006, 09:46 PM
Patience...Alex...Kokomo
There are good girls out there who will go for you soon enuf :)

I am a good girl ;) ..went for a `wild` guy once..whirlwind romance :p
Broke my heart after a year...caught him...in someone`s arms...a day after my birthday party, which he threw for me...SOB..
So, I wised up and found myself a new bf, the following week.
He`s an angel...so far ;)

Piggy
02-11-2006, 10:00 PM
Patience...Alex...Kokomo
There are good girls out there who will go for you soon enuf :)

I am a good girl ;) ..went for a `wild` guy once..whirlwind romance :p
Broke my heart after a year...caught him...in someone`s arms...a day after my birthday party, which he threw for me...SOB..
So, I wised up and found myself a new bf, the following week.
He`s an angel...so far ;)

Wow.. you are lucky! Until now I couldn't forgive my ex-, my close friend whom is HIS gf for now, & the guy who looks LIKE my ex- which I've been acting idiotly stupid whenever I was with him by acting extremely cold! And, I'm still searching but yet, unwilling to let anyone to enter my HEART. Presumely, short while or could be for life.. I am trying really hard! ahahaha.. wish me luck with that :rolleyes:

kokomo
03-11-2006, 12:33 AM
Nikki 2, good for you to have a new found someone in your life that fast. Pig, try harder next time. Hehehe .. enjoy singlehood lifestyle. There is nothing wrong being single. Do anything you want, go anywhere you like, don't have to answer to anyone except yourself and your parents.

Sakai, I didn't know I've already gone international. hahah ... CNN! :p

sakaibear
03-11-2006, 01:01 AM
cupid news network ma....hahahaha

kokomo
03-11-2006, 01:05 AM
cupid news network ma....hahahaha

Hahah ... that's a good one! :p

kokomo
03-11-2006, 01:19 AM
Is it really true that a girl will learn to be wiser only thru bad experience? No other way of learning it? Example had already been testified by Nikki 2, went wif a wild guy then only appreciate the better guy. :confused:

vivacious
03-11-2006, 07:35 AM
kokomo i have one gurl to intro to u ? care to come out n meet her one fine day out of your busy scedule?

alexhay
03-11-2006, 09:01 AM
kokomo i have one gurl to intro to u ? care to come out n meet her one fine day out of your busy scedule?

vivacious arr...why only kokomo...what about us here larr...sakaibear, alexhay, kress, blah blah blah....

sakaibear
03-11-2006, 09:30 AM
that's why, why only kokomo? :mad: :P the younger one of them lot should be first.....who happens to be ME!!! :D

vivacious
03-11-2006, 09:33 AM
relax guys, :eek: u all also can meet her. I have two gurls who r single and available. :D all wait in line k. ;)

alexhay
03-11-2006, 09:37 AM
aiya...2 girls where got enough for 3 person...get larr one more...then myself, kokomo and sakaibear no need to fight..

LMei
03-11-2006, 10:21 AM
Wow.. you are lucky! Until now I couldn't forgive my ex-, my close friend whom is HIS gf for now, & the guy who looks LIKE my ex- which I've been acting idiotly stupid whenever I was with him by acting extremely cold! And, I'm still searching but yet, unwilling to let anyone to enter my HEART. Presumely, short while or could be for life.. I am trying really hard! ahahaha.. wish me luck with that :rolleyes:
Hey, I know how you feel. I had an ex... who was consoling his best friend's girl (they broke up) and ended up with her. Actually he was two-timing. Couldn't decide on one and wanted both. So I broke up with him.

So when I started dating other guys, terrified of going into a relationship cos of the hurt. But you have to give yourself a chance and learn to trust again. So now I'm happily married with a beautiful baby.

alexhay
03-11-2006, 10:26 AM
lmei dont forget you also have a wonderful husband... :)

mon
03-11-2006, 10:28 AM
Wei Alex, she said she's happily married ma, meaning with her husband la. Aiseh man.

alexhay
03-11-2006, 10:34 AM
yeah i know that..i know her hubby too... i meant that she also have a wonderful husband now lar..

are you awake ar..or still in dreamland :p

kokomo
03-11-2006, 11:51 AM
aiya...2 girls where got enough for 3 person...get larr one more...then myself, kokomo and sakaibear no need to fight..

Haha ... guys, even if there is only 1 girl, I still don't have to fight. Girls know how to choose. :p So let's say now there is 2 girls, I take 1 and what is left ... you & Sakai can fight for it? Hmmm .. no no, in order to have a peaceful time and relationship among us, I take ALL! Hahah .. u guys no need to fight. :D

Vivacious, to find a free time eh ... I really have to look into my schedule. Otherwise when I'm terribly sick then I'm really free.

Piggy, no worries, I have guys to intro you also.

vivacious
03-11-2006, 01:08 PM
aiya...2 girls where got enough for 3 person...get larr one more...then myself, kokomo and sakaibear no need to fight..
OK la set! let me find one more candidate for bear. :D

alexhay
03-11-2006, 01:56 PM
vivicious... but must wait till the following week as i will be in lumut next week.. :)

so deal arrr ...

btw..is one of the girl is yourself arr ???

romi_o
03-11-2006, 02:41 PM
wah... not fair, why always wait till romi not in town only got action one?? ~sigh~

btw, i thought should be the older one get the 1st in line what... not much time left mah, hahaha *wink* muahahahhaa
(joking lah, don't be mad ah all...)

so bad, young ppl nowadays don't know how to respect old ppl already... ~sigh~ :D

anyway, good luck on the match making... hehe


cheers from Louisville on 1.30am, cold, below 0C now.... *shivering* sleeping time

alexhay
03-11-2006, 03:05 PM
wah cold weather ar...good time for steamboat and bah kut teh !!!!

sherrygin
03-11-2006, 03:11 PM
Haha.. race definitely an issue to me :D I can't consider anyone who is different race than me.. (no racist issue here) but I do want to maintain that my future grandson / daughter to be chinese too...

Piggy, is that a case of Nordicism? Are you afraid of the dilution of the purity of your heritage? I understand if you choose to marry some of the same ethnic background as you but to say that you wish to maintain that your future grandson to be Chinese, that's looking too far ahead don't you think?

How do you ensure that? By brainwashing your children from infancy that you will not tolerate if they were to marry someone from a different ethnic background? Maybe you shouldn't speak so vehemently for your future kids :cool:

Never say never :)

alexhay
03-11-2006, 03:21 PM
sherry...agree with you...

i cant be sure what race would my future grandson or even great grandson will be..who knows my future son or daughter married a malay or even an indian..i dont mind...as long they love each other...so i dont find any problem marrying someone which is different race...

vivacious
03-11-2006, 05:48 PM
sorry romi the gurls i am introducing to the boys may not meet your criteria which i dont know wat is it but i am just guessing :D But if u want to stand in line can (cut the q) ;) sigh' i also dont know wat my future sons n daughters will turn out. HOpefuly will have beautiful eyes and a sharp nose like mua :D

kokomo
03-11-2006, 06:23 PM
Sherry, well said on that. No one can determine our future or future of our next generations. This is going to go off topic already, we're talkin' bout current situation.

Vivacious, how they look like also doesn't matter ... be it nice features or great body. Most important be smart and having humanity in them. Anyhow, don't tell me if they're not like you then you love them less.

Shiet ... I, myself going off topic. Sorry guys! :o

Piggy
03-11-2006, 06:41 PM
Dear dear.. sooo many new messages!

Hardly got time to read all coz I got new project coming soon.


SherryGin, erm... let me see, perhaps I am looking far ahead .. hehehe :confused: :D

romi_o
03-11-2006, 10:59 PM
vivacious, aiyoh, i'm categorized into different group of ppl liao is it? unfair....
not good... i'm hardly around and now even u said the girls won't meet my criteria (which u also don't know...) *sniff* *sniff*

hehe, anyway, just hope u all have a great time...
it's still freezing here in US...

kokomo
04-11-2006, 02:56 AM
No worries Romi, Vivacious don't have the right girl that meets your criteria prolly she dunno what is your criteria. Once you're back confirm you'll get a girl to meet your needs and wants. :D

birdy
04-11-2006, 07:33 AM
vivacious, aiyoh, i'm categorized into different group of ppl liao is it? unfair....
not good... i'm hardly around and now even u said the girls won't meet my criteria (which u also don't know...) *sniff* *sniff*

hehe, anyway, just hope u all have a great time...
it's still freezing here in US...
Romi_o, since u r in US.. why not search for your girl in US? I tot there are many many more pretty girls than here? What more, they are more open minded ... As such, they won't treat u as different group of ppl.....hehehehe :D

vivacious
04-11-2006, 09:38 AM
In that case romi, looks like i have to wait for u to come back(which i dont know when will u be back on your next trip) then can intro u to some gurl frens of mine. :D i am planing to throw a party . But that one i have to plan it out very nicely like who to call, location, gurls to invite, guys to invite so that it can be a natural thing where evryone can get to know one another n have fun at the same time.

romi_o
04-11-2006, 01:38 PM
oklah, haha, i know my case is special, so no worries...
planning to be back in USJ during CNY...

no pressure on u all, just want to make friends and meet ppl... if got, my luck lor, if not, also my luck :)

oklah, u all have a nice weekend... here is freeeeezing cold... below 0C *brrr.... shivering*

evecyanide
04-11-2006, 02:42 PM
that's why, why only kokomo? :mad: :P the younger one of them lot should be first.....who happens to be ME!!! :D

Sakai darling... the youngest one should wait the longest cos you've got to give the kokos a chance first mah.... lol...

kokomo
04-11-2006, 04:58 PM
Eve, you don't notice meh? During our younger days we're always ahead of the older ones cos why? The older ones couldn't catch up wif the younger ones'ma. Same case here.

KakiLang
04-11-2006, 09:10 PM
Sakai darling... the youngest one should wait the longest cos you've got to give the kokos a chance first mah.... lol...

Aiseh, age factor doesn't apply here la...best man wins mah..... :D :D

KakiLang
04-11-2006, 09:15 PM
Romi_o, since u r in US.. why not search for your girl in US? I tot there are many many more pretty girls than here? What more, they are more open minded ... As such, they won't treat u as different group of ppl.....hehehehe :D

Aisehman...it's just like nasi lemak in the State is never be as good as nasi lemak bk home in M'sia mah....that's why Romi prefers Malaysian gals.. :D

romi_o
04-11-2006, 10:46 PM
well said KakiLang... well said :D

well, actually, i don't really care where the nasi lemak is coming from, as long as it's clean and tasty :p
haha... so, question solved?

birdy
04-11-2006, 10:55 PM
well said KakiLang... well said :D

well, actually, i don't really care where the nasi lemak is coming from, as long as it's clean and tasty :p
haha... so, question solved?
In order to ensure 100% clean the nasi lemak.. you hv to make yourself... So, understand what I mean? :D There has been very advance technology in this world nowadays... it won't be that painful as last time.... what more the technology in US is so advance... So, make yourself the nasi lemak and bring home to M'sia for Kokomo, Kress, Jian..etc..etc.. :)

Vixey
04-11-2006, 11:12 PM
This thread is so funny. I clicked on the title and went straight to the last page, then I got confused..thinking I somehow ended up on the Cari Makan thread! :D

Nasi lemak....very nice!

Frankly I don't care if its nasi lemak, fish n chips or bratwurst...just so long it makes me happy. :D

evecyanide
05-11-2006, 08:31 AM
Frankly I don't care if its nasi lemak, fish n chips or bratwurst...just so long it makes me happy. :D

Vixey. lol. You're right girl... in my case, I prefer Banana Leaf lor.... :D

kokomo
06-11-2006, 01:56 AM
Aiks, suddenly my thread has turned all the gurls and boys into food ka? Haha ... is this a Prestige? :confused:

Ok, a question here. Ever experience going out wif an overly emotional girl or guy? Where by every bits and sentence that come out of your mouth gotta be very careful with it. Can't simply tell jokes or give some teaser to them. Anyone?

This could be worst then their monthly thing.

birdy
06-11-2006, 06:13 AM
Ok, a question here. Ever experience going out wif an overly emotional girl or guy? Where by every bits and sentence that come out of your mouth gotta be very careful with it. Can't simply tell jokes or give some teaser to them. Anyone?
Wah... this will give lots of pressure to the partner.... I personally don't have this relationship experience but I do once worked with a female colleague (sitting beside me only)... you need to becareful with the words used when talking to her...otherwise you tend to arouse her anger! I felt very pressure when talking to her.

So, my advise to the emotional gurl or guy... please be considerate to your partner.... think of him / her ... put yourself in his / her position and be more considerate...

vivacious
06-11-2006, 12:03 PM
Thats wat i am trying to do too. sigh*

alexhay
06-11-2006, 01:06 PM
Aiks, suddenly my thread has turned all the gurls and boys into food ka? Haha ... is this a Prestige? :confused:

Ok, a question here. Ever experience going out wif an overly emotional girl or guy? Where by every bits and sentence that come out of your mouth gotta be very careful with it. Can't simply tell jokes or give some teaser to them. Anyone?

This could be worst then their monthly thing.

been through it before... haiih... dont ever try it man... even if u r joking also, she thinks that you are serious... haiihh

LMei
06-11-2006, 01:16 PM
Ok, a question here. Ever experience going out wif an overly emotional girl or guy? Where by every bits and sentence that come out of your mouth gotta be very careful with it. Can't simply tell jokes or give some teaser to them. Anyone?

This could be worst then their monthly thing.
Yeah I know.... tough. You have to keep telling them to lighten up and it's just a joke.

kokomo
06-11-2006, 01:28 PM
Well, some girls or guys just don't get it. Being overly sensitive is quite difficult to mingle around with other friends that likes to have fun and jokes.

So what's the limit or level jokes that we can actually say it around such ppl? Or mebbe what's your limit or jokes and teaser that you can take? :confused:

vivacious
06-11-2006, 02:59 PM
I can't stand guys who can't take jokes and takes this personal. i used to go through that once i can;t tahan i told him off there n there o n the spot! He of corse was upset ! n then from there onwards he tried to change his ways!

kokomo
07-11-2006, 01:26 AM
People like that I guess they are not being brought up to take jokes or comments. So better beware'lah. If they are serious kind then lucky you, get a serious partner. :D

romi_o
07-11-2006, 06:11 AM
well, joke shouldn't be personal and shouldn't be pointing at something the person cares... eg. no abusive language and not about things they care...
sometimes it is also better don't try to use "color" jokes (well, guys, u all know what i meant, right? *wink* ) when u are around with females, it's rude and offensive to a lot of females...

just treat others like what u expect others to treat u :)
i think this is the main point.



cheers from a warmer KY, USA...

birdy
07-11-2006, 06:18 AM
I can't stand guys who can't take jokes and takes this personal. i used to go through that once i can;t tahan i told him off there n there o n the spot! He of corse was upset ! n then from there onwards he tried to change his ways!
Chinese says "Mountains can be easily shifted, Character is difficult to change" .. So, has this fren of yours successfully change to suit you? Isn't that a difficult task for him and will be a pressure to him everytime he sees u?

Actually... do we really need to change ourself to adapt to your partner? IT is not an easy task to deviate your usual behaviour and act to suit your partner. Eg..in the case of Vivacious...can't vivacious give ways and adapt to his seriousness character? Why must it be the guy who needs to change to adapt to the girl's liking? (Sorry Vivacious, I am not saying what you did is wrong.. just want to use your case as an example... :o ) I have a friend who really change for his wife... he used to be socially active now..he is like home guarding, staying at home every night to accompany the wife because the wife is scare of lonely.

romi_o
07-11-2006, 06:55 AM
well, birdy, if u really love someone, i think it is not too hard to change...
i'm willing to change (and i did change for my ex) if it is a good thing, or if it will be good for both parties.
so, it's really up to the mindset of the individual.
if someone thinks that changing is pressure, then maybe he/she is not mature enough?

:)

firefox
07-11-2006, 07:07 AM
i wonder what they mean by good girls? got ah such a thing nowdays :confused:

vivacious
07-11-2006, 07:59 AM
[QUOTE=romi_o]well, birdy, if u really love someone, i think it is not too hard to change...
i'm willing to change (and i did change for my ex) if it is a good thing, or if it will be good for both parties.
so, it's really up to the mindset of the individual.
if someone thinks that changing is pressure, then maybe he/she is not mature enough?

I used to change for my ex but of corse it did not go anywhere in the relationship as usual he is a bum! I still don;t think one should change for the other just to make the other feel better. changing for someone is always a pressure. :mad: being mature n nt mature is another thing. If the other person wants the other person to change for no reason then thats immature!

sherrygin
07-11-2006, 10:47 AM
Why should we even change for someone? I think many of the problems faced by newly married couples stem from the expectation that the other person will change after marriage. Changing your habits (like smoking) is something good but it should be done because the individual wants to change. It should not be done because your partner expects it.

I believe that we should always be honest and true to ourselves and our partners. What you see is what you get. Having said that, as we grow older and more matured, we will inevitably change but that is just a natural process, which you will go through with your partner.

Never change because someone else expects it or because someone else tells you to, for it will breed resentment. Change because you want to.

vivacious
07-11-2006, 01:33 PM
err.. sherry u made a clear statement. I used to change this guy who used to smoke. But then i failed cos thats him he likes it so i decided not to change him. But deep down concern cos smoking is bad. But then again maybe he will quit sooon

kokomo
07-11-2006, 01:45 PM
Well said Sherry! :)

There are some girls who smoke but concern bout their partner who smoke either. So what is there to concern bout? Why you want them to quit when you're smoking? If its bad, then I think individually should quit. Of cos encouraging your other half to quit is not a bad thing but if they doesn't want to then it have to be stop from there. Really irritating sometimes I find it. :cool:

Do some of the guys find girls that are wild, flirtatious, smokers, bad ass attitude attractive?

tupai
07-11-2006, 09:00 PM
...
Do some of the guys find girls that are wild, flirtatious, smokers, bad ass attitude attractive?

U BET! She will be areal knock-out should she chooses to wear short leather skirt, metal studded leather jacket and wind blown hair to complete...
:D

Yang Amat Bermimpi lato tupai

kokomo
08-11-2006, 02:19 AM
U BET! She will be areal knock-out should she chooses to wear short leather skirt, metal studded leather jacket and wind blown hair to complete...
:D

Yang Amat Bermimpi lato tupai

Errr ... metal studded leather jacket a bit hard to be blown by wind right? Anyway, aren't they suppose to be on their bikinis and hot pants? :confused:

Welcome back tupai! :cool:

So can tell me why girls like bad ass fella .. or you can term it WILD!

Nikki 2
08-11-2006, 08:53 AM
Kokomo...Some girls luv `wild`guys becos they are exciting, tantalising, adventurous and in a way...fearless!

But all these won`t last :D
These`wild` guys will grow tiresome, boring, selfish and eventually oldddddd! :eek:
...not to mention fat, balding and beer-bellied if they are already past 40 or so... :p

So...all the gals out there! Let`s find someone `good` and safe!
Wild ones do not last...a bit of fun , maybe...but lifetime partners???
Think again! :eek:

kokomo
08-11-2006, 09:18 AM
Nikki2, like you've said .. these wild men / woman eventually will tame down also. Do you think they'll be this way forever?

Hehehe ... beer-bellied, fat and balding ... isn't that a sense of comfort women are looking into? Not to mention security as well?

Well, early morning post ... tryin' to get rid of my blurness, morning peeps!! :cool:

AllUrban
08-11-2006, 02:46 PM
Would James Bond be considered a bad boy?

Cause, he's my role model :p

Cheers, m :cool:

tupai
08-11-2006, 04:38 PM
Kokomo...Some girls luv `wild`guys becos they are exciting, tantalising, adventurous and in a way...fearless!

But all these won`t last :D
These`wild` guys will grow tiresome, boring, selfish and eventually oldddddd! :eek:
...not to mention fat, balding and beer-bellied if they are already past 40 or so... :p

So...all the gals out there! Let`s find someone `good` and safe!
Wild ones do not last...a bit of fun , maybe...but lifetime partners???
Think again! :eek:

fat, balding and beer-bellied , and short...alas! thats the 'wild' bunch of us, leathercladded bums at 30yrs old :o

BUT we have great fun living in very fast lane & dated faster wilder gals :D We have a life! and our wild dates have a double life too :D :D And now, we have sweet & glorious memories that will be etched on the tomb stone as "I live life to the MAX and more!" :p

Yang Amat Bermimpi nakal lato tupai
p/s
Really ah? Got girl wanna have a 7am-7pm plain-whiteshirt-redtie-greypant, boring, predictable, nitely Nat Geo viewing, no-risk-taking (as defined in level 1 trekking along the banks of ulu yam stream), once-in-awhile-sack-in-slumberland mattress only, bean-counting cooliecutive partner who will, high-chance, tip-toe to meet his maker
on a hazy day? Ada kah?

kokomo
08-11-2006, 05:47 PM
Haha ... James Bond? Does he fit the description? :rolleyes:

Lato ... in answer to your question. YES'LA, there are girls like that, that prefers men to be predictable to them, cos they wanna be in controlled. So do well call these ladies, acting good or good in acting? :D

Nikki 2
08-11-2006, 06:25 PM
Kokomo/All Urban....James Bond only in movies lah...but I personally wouldn`t mind a real life one :p

Having a safe guy doesn`t mean a gal wants to be in control...hmm..well, maybe sometimes in the sack ;)

But really, guys...Tupai/my sweet squirrel...yes, some gals do want some fun with `bad` guys...me, included but we have to watch out for our hearts too.

No, I don`t want to live my life with some boring ole guy...watching Nat Geo or playing mahjong till our twilight years!
I love to go with a guy who can take my breath away...sweep me off my feet and make passionate......to me!

But a fat,balding, beer-bellied bad guy...never mind if he`s 30+++, doesn`t really fit into my idea of `the guy`....even if he had tons of `experience`and lines of lovers :rolleyes:

Ahem...you are not that kind of `bad` guy? Are you, my sweet tupai??? :p

kokomo
09-11-2006, 01:12 AM
Nikki2, sounds like you are fantasizing about a movie called Young & Dangerous! :p

As your term 'bad' guys, so since when guys like that will watch out for a ladies heart? At that point of time, every guy also will take care of ladies pretty well. After that, ahem! Hehe ... like that just remember the sweet things every guy did for the ladies and errmm .. forget the rest. Can?

tupai
09-11-2006, 02:06 AM
...
...I love to go with a guy who can take my breath away...sweep me off my feet and make passionate......to me!

But a fat,balding, beer-bellied bad guy...never mind if he`s 30+++, doesn`t really fit into my idea of `the guy`....even if he had tons of `experience`and lines of lovers :rolleyes:

Ahem...you are not that kind of `bad` guy? Are you, my sweet tupai??? :p
i AM BAD! 69years old, fat flash & balding as the star&stripe eagle in the yank coin, pissing high most night, tearing the fed h'way at 180kph on cubchai, eat 60+vietnamese spring rolls for breakky, chasing 'em vietrolls down with mekong on duh rocks, and writes orig pantun for a poor livin'...game for u? Oh...i can be honey sweet at minus3degree while throwing iceballs at snowman too! Or sweaty hot at 130degree while pursuing foxy butts into the wadis :p

life is too short to think what to do tomorrow...

Yang Ada Bestest idea to just rockN'roll lato tupai

kokomo
09-11-2006, 04:01 PM
So now it should be BAD ASS TUPAI / BAD ASS GRANDPA? :confused: :D

tupai
10-11-2006, 11:55 AM
bad ass senile grandpa tupai is apt :D

Naked skydiving in goldcoast anyone??
Skinny dipping deep Blue diving in ko lipe anyone?
Blasted, stoned & drunk in BM Raggae pub ko samui?
blindfolded nuthunting party in budapest?

Yang Amat Bermimpi lato tupai :rolleyes:

sakaibear
10-11-2006, 01:57 PM
bad ass passionate bloke eh nikki? hahahaa........our very own lato is the best. :D some might say daredevil....others claim he's the ghost rider. either way he'll sweep you off your feet....literally. :P

Nikki 2
10-11-2006, 04:10 PM
Hmm......he swept me off my feet alrite :D

But now he is dumping me...like a ton of hot..hot bricks!

Btw, thot he said he was ahem....30+++??? Now you guys calling him bad ass grandpa???

Hmm....thot this website is for the `young n dangerous`??? Who let d old dog in??? :eek:

sakaibear
10-11-2006, 04:24 PM
eh nobody said he was a grandpa....hahahah. this is a young and dangerous kinda thread......did u not know? our lato tupai is the "Tai Lo Bee".....except that lato is greater....cos tailo bee died. lato is still alive and kicking ass. :D

or maybe he can be Mr Chiang of Hung Hing.....hehehehehe now that's power!!

Nikki 2
10-11-2006, 04:33 PM
Hmm...i seen that show..
Mr. Chiang ain`t any grandpa...

Now...u my dear Sakaibeeeeeeeaarrrrrr! What are u?? 30+++ too???
R u in d same category as my sweet tupai???

Horizontally challenged too...Hmmmmm

kokomo
10-11-2006, 09:58 PM
Hahaha ... Sakaibear is our Sailo Beee!!!! :D

Btw, does age proves a guy to be too good for a girl or plainly they just prefer an older guy than a younger guy or same age group.

Is there any age discrimination around in gettin' a partner?

Nikki 2
11-11-2006, 12:40 PM
kokomo.....
there`s no age preference, in my opinion for any relationship :p

If they r good n meant for each other...why not?
I know a gf`s dad who is 70 n he is on to his 3rd `wifey` who just turned 29!

So there u go...men will go for companionship n occassional `roll in d hay` n women will go for security...n some for love along d way...sigh :rolleyes:

kokomo
11-11-2006, 07:56 PM
Wait a minute ... your gf's dad is 70 and that would make your friend around 30-40 odd yrs of age and you're only 20 yrs of age. And your gf's dad punya wife is turning 29 yrs of age. That would make your gf much older than her dad's wife.

Hmmm ... don't cha feel odd?

romi_o
11-11-2006, 11:34 PM
wow, trophy wife ah? :p
well, there's no border in love... :)


cheers from USA

Nikki 2
12-11-2006, 01:30 AM
kokomo...
my gf is around 24...Her dad had her when he was around mid 40s, her mom was his 2nd wife...meanwhile, he had this 19yr old hanging around n she ended up his 3rd wife now! :eek:

Fate has it...it has been 10 yrs for them now n they have a son n he`s abt 8 now. So it`s destiny...she was meant for d ole man n he took her on for better or for worse...err...they r still together n don`t think he`s going for 4th..not that i know of, anyway. Apparently, he is so dependent on her even for a cup of kopi.....what a b......!

Yes....there is no age barrier in love...n for some lust...sigh :p

sakaibear
12-11-2006, 04:33 PM
nikki....hahaha sadly i'm no Lato Chiang......nor is my middle name tupai. hahaha and i think....i'm nowhere near that age. hahaha.....30?? hahaha no la.....our uncle kokomo will turn 30 before i do!!!! :D that's something to be happy about. hahaha

tupai
12-11-2006, 10:16 PM
nikki....hahaha sadly i'm no Lato Chiang......nor is my middle name tupai. hahaha and i think....i'm nowhere near that age. hahaha.....30?? hahaha no la.....our uncle kokomo will turn 30 before i do!!!! :D that's something to be happy about. hahaha

For female thrill seekers' eyes only:
Bad guys (too many to count) lookin' for as many and legally obliging, feminine characters to soften 'negative' image of
bad guys equate to :
- middle age (50 yrs old if u live to b 100)
- Fat & pot bellied (too much beer & bkteh)
- slow but experience in most situations (walking stick do helpaid in many situ includ beating the bitches away during dawnwalk)
- motor around in nothing less than SLK (sick-lookin-kart
:p

any taker?

Yang Ada Burung kakak tua lato tupai

kokomo
12-11-2006, 10:33 PM
Sakai, gotta learn this ... the older we get, the badder we are! ... :p Ye[z ... I'll be having another zero behind ... new level, new stage to climb on. :cool:

Nikki 2
13-11-2006, 05:46 PM
Guys...guys...
why are we going into the `age` thing again????

So long as d `bad` guy serves his purpose...who`s counting???

But for the heart, sigh :( ....Can a `bad` boy turn `good`...eventually????

sakaibear
14-11-2006, 01:31 AM
well u know bad guys are all softies inside. take kokomo for instance, act like taiko all...but actually he;s quite a softie. no wonder all the ladies fall for him. :D

bottomline......bad guys arent necessarily bad guys. never judge a book by it's cover. like me....i look innocent....but actually in fact i'm a nocturnal jackal with ginormous carnal needs :p

kokomo
14-11-2006, 01:36 AM
Bad boys turn good? Heheh ... only when they are sick or under perform :D

Aiya, Sakai why you go pecah rahsia'leh .... gone gone!

sakaibear
14-11-2006, 10:15 AM
:p of course la i pecah your rahsia then i get more girls. hehehehe

KakiLang
14-11-2006, 02:13 PM
well u know bad guys are all softies inside. take kokomo for instance, act like taiko all...but actually he;s quite a softie. no wonder all the ladies fall for him. :D

bottomline......bad guys arent necessarily bad guys. never judge a book by it's cover. like me....i look innocent....but actually in fact i'm a nocturnal jackal with ginormous carnal needs :p

Ya, agree....ladies/gals age range from 1 to 80 all fall for him....and he is not picky, that's the good thing about him...:D :D :D

AllUrban
14-11-2006, 06:12 PM
and he is not picky, that's the good thing about him...:D :D :Dyes, it's good to have an open mind...if you keep limiting yourself to a particular type, you miss out on so many opportunities to meet with different people.


Cheers, m

kokomo
14-11-2006, 06:58 PM
Aiseh ... you guys make me sound like a wholesaler like that. Everything cheap and good I grab all. Mana boleh, this is not Mydin and Giant. :p

Sakai, don't have to worry .. once those girls are too many to handle, definitely it will flow over to you. Sorry ladies, no flow over guys for you cos its everywhere. ;)

evecyanide
14-11-2006, 08:54 PM
Eh, what is this talk about girls 'flowing' here and there ah?? Anyway, Sakai dear, if you wait for Kokomo's over-fow to come to you, sure you get all the close to 80 year old ones lah.. :p He cannot harap one. Better you look for a gf yourself :D:D:D

sakaibear
14-11-2006, 11:48 PM
i dont harap the fella la. he ah.....wont overflow wan. casanova ma... :p

kokomo
14-11-2006, 11:52 PM
Oi oi, what casanova ... me Kokomo! :p

Eve, I thought you always wanted to still be a good girl? Now no more?

KakiLang
15-11-2006, 02:41 PM
Eh, what is this talk about girls 'flowing' here and there ah?? Anyway, Sakai dear, if you wait for Kokomo's over-fow to come to you, sure you get all the close to 80 year old ones lah.. :p He cannot harap one. Better you look for a gf yourself :D:D:D

I think u got urself overflowed, so where to?? :D :D

kokomo
06-12-2006, 02:00 AM
I think this link somehow rather are quite similarly relate to the main forum ... on thread Why Men Cheat? Same goes here, why girls just can't be content wif what guys are made of. And why still the same question, not going after good men.

This will forever be a merry go round question, don't you peeps think so?

sugarstic
06-12-2006, 08:54 AM
I found this thread rather interesting... hmm... how can someone define 'a good man' ? Does it mean that a guy who doesn't smoke, doesn't drink (excessively), doesn't gamble (excessively again..) but is loyal to his ex-gf (while being with you) - is he a good guy?
What's good for you may not be good for someone else... and I think the magic of love is such... it makes you blind to what's good and what's bad... and this makes it even more exciting to be 'in love'... :) don't you think?

sakaibear
06-12-2006, 09:15 AM
one man's meat is another man's poison....well in this case....woman.

i do detest cheating on your girl and i surely would not condone such actions. call me old fashion but i believe that if she's the queen of your heart, you must treat her like one. what goes around, comes around

kokomo
06-12-2006, 09:57 AM
When you're in the world of your own love zone. You're just alone there. What friends and family tells us, we wouldn't listen until we fall into monsoon drain then we're awake and feel the pain.

Nowadays, finding a 2 way love is impossible. Highway has also been made 4 ways. What goes around, comes around is true until we meet the one and only. Don't you know playboys and playgirls also have their moments of true love.

KakiLang
06-12-2006, 10:42 AM
When you're in the world of your own love zone. You're just alone there. What friends and family tells us, we wouldn't listen until we fall into monsoon drain then we're awake and feel the pain.

Nowadays, finding a 2 way love is impossible. Highway has also been made 4 ways. What goes around, comes around is true until we meet the one and only. Don't you know playboys and playgirls also have their moments of true love.

What u implied here is short-lived??.....lasted for minutes or days only... :D :D

sakaibear
06-12-2006, 11:25 AM
so short only??? tsk tsk.....not good la brother. :p

Blue Jasmine
06-12-2006, 11:50 AM
I found this thread rather interesting... hmm... how can someone define 'a good man' ? Does it mean that a guy who doesn't smoke, doesn't drink (excessively), doesn't gamble (excessively again..) but is loyal to his ex-gf (while being with you) - is he a good guy?
What's good for you may not be good for someone else... and I think the magic of love is such... it makes you blind to what's good and what's bad... and this makes it even more exciting to be 'in love'... :) don't you think?


Good Man- a responsible man ..he knows wat he is..he knows wat he must do...he gives and gives ...he helps ...he is understanding at the same time knows how to arrange priority. In short he knows what he is doing and his purpose in this life

Thats a Good Man.

Sugarfree
06-12-2006, 12:08 PM
Good Man- a responsible man ..he knows wat he is..he knows wat he must do...he gives and gives ...he helps ...he is understanding at the same time knows how to arrange priority. In short he knows what he is doing and his purpose in this life
Your good man is either already married or is gay. Hahahahaha.... :D :D

(jesting there but, really, it all depends on your luck whether you land a good man or not. good luck to all the single ladies! and have fun while you're looking for him. he may be standing next to you all the time, for all you know ;) ).

Blue Jasmine
06-12-2006, 02:18 PM
[QUOTE=Sugarfree]Your good man is either already married or is gay. Hahahahaha.... :D :D

please la...gay man is so selfish...how can they be one good man? Imagine the shame they caused their parents to face....

Secondly ... married or not they can still be a good man ...but logically MOST good man are taken....so becareful all the 'singles' out there

sherrygin
06-12-2006, 02:32 PM
please la...gay man is so selfish...how can they be one good man? Imagine the shame they caused their parents to face....

I think you shouldn't be so quick as to label gay men to be selfish. What has their sexual orientation got to do with the kind of persons they are? In this day and age, the society is more accepting towards gays and they should be treated with equality. They are humans with feelings like you and me and should be treated with respect. Maybe you will be ashamed if your child is gay but there are many parents out there who are not.

Blue Jasmine
06-12-2006, 02:55 PM
I think you shouldn't be so quick as to label gay men to be selfish. What has their sexual orientation got to do with the kind of persons they are? In this day and age, the society is more accepting towards gays and they should be treated with equality. They are humans with feelings like you and me and should be treated with respect. Maybe you will be ashamed if your child is gay but there are many parents out there who are not.


Whatever let GOd be the judge to say if Gay are not wrong or right...i just assume that i will be ashamed if my son is a gay...maybe there are other parents who will be so proud that their son is a gay ...hmmmm...i really dont know..

sherrygin
06-12-2006, 03:02 PM
Then I hope that your kids will be heterosexuals because if they are gay, you would be ashamed of them.

I wouldn't go so far as to say that there are parents who will be proud that their kids are gay, certainly do not expect them to proclaim to the world "hey looky here! My son is gay!". But I think it's fair to say that there are parents who are not ashamed that their kids are gay.

Sugarfree
06-12-2006, 03:16 PM
...But I think it's fair to say that there are parents who are not ashamed that their kids are gay.
Maybe it would be more accurate to say that they've accepted the fact and that nothing can be done to "straighten" the gay boys? :D It's like accept la, what else to do? :cool:

Blue Jasmine
06-12-2006, 03:29 PM
Maybe it would be more accurate to say that they've accepted the fact and that nothing can be done to "straighten" the gay boys? :D It's like accept la, what else to do? :cool:

I agree...just accept since scold also cannot beat also cannot last last just close one eye lor...wat to do? brain wash meh?

Sugarfree
06-12-2006, 04:18 PM
I agree...just accept since scold also cannot beat also cannot last last just close one eye lor...wat to do? brain wash meh?
Brainwashing will do no good..maybe, I dunno, if the parents spot the "flaw" early, perhaps they can be "cured". However, once they've reached their teenage years, the urmm..."gayness" will have already set in. Nothing you can do then. This is just my take on it. Some people say gay people are born that way. Hmmm....

kokomo
06-12-2006, 05:44 PM
Good Man- a responsible man ..he knows wat he is..he knows wat he must do...he gives and gives ...he helps ...he is understanding at the same time knows how to arrange priority. In short he knows what he is doing and his purpose in this life

Thats a Good Man.

Errr ... a person who knows what he is doing and his purpose in life, put it this way, I know this is bad, that's my purpose and and I know what I'm doing, so can I be considered a good man? Yes? No?

If want the details, this is it ... date every girl as I grow, sleep with them, dump them straight, smoke and gamble, cheat on others. Those are also purpose and also know what we're doing.

I guess good man are getting growing by the day in this world. Hehe ... agree? Yes? No? :cool:

Sherry, you're right ... we should not gather gay and selfish are in their species. Straight guys also selfish what. I can even say, all accountants are selfish, just because they know how to count right up to the cents. Let's not pick on those heterosexuals being.

kokomo
06-12-2006, 05:50 PM
What u implied here is short-lived??.....lasted for minutes or days only... :D :D

That I wouldn't know. Have wait for others with the experience to come in and testify on it. Perhaps you can also share a lil bout it with us. :p

romi_o
07-12-2006, 01:05 AM
pls, no sensitive issue in the thread, unless u r trying to catch The Eye's attention n send u to USJ banana plantation :P

back to the topic:
good guys(and girls, all grouped under good ppl) in Taiwan is rising in numbers. Taiwanese grouped those doing all things possible or near impossible for their love ones but at the end cannot get the love back (e.g. failure to court, rejected etc) as Good Fellas... :P
i'm not really fond of getting myself grouped under this category, and so eventhough i'm eligible, i don't want to say i'm GOOD, haha
it's really a subjective question, as different ppl have different views/tastes... good can be in a lot of things, maybe the girl will think that if that guy she loves can speak fluent foreign language, he is GOOD... hehe, don't laugh, it's true... when one is falling in love, even the smallest good thing can be magnified, and cover all the bad things...
when there is no more love, the smallest bad thing will be enough to trigger a big bomb, and smother all the great things u did for them...

so, quit discussing in this thread n go get a life out there, haha... (joking)

i've been asking around on this topic, and well, the answer is, good guy is hard to find.... (and they didn't see this eligible guy infront of them... ~sigh~)
haha, well, my 2 cents... have fun~

cheers!

little cute bee
07-12-2006, 08:34 AM
well said romi o, good guy are hardly find nowadays...how actually we can justify someone good or in another way? there's no answer, or i should say it really depends on individual...beauty is in the eye of d beholder, so do love...that why we always confuse : how can so n so click to each other? coz everything depends by d lover itself. we may say someone isnt that good, but to d other half, he/she is d perfect. we juz hope that the one that we meet in future, is d best we have ever met.

birdy
07-12-2006, 08:50 AM
Ya... it all depends on the acceptance level of the partner. A good guy to me may appear a bad guy to u and vice versa. What more, some ethnic believes ur other half has been 'pre-determined' (or fated). If it is urs, it will be urs.... if not, no matter how hard u hold it, u hv to let it go eventually......:(

sugarstic
07-12-2006, 09:04 AM
I always believe that everything happens for a reason... and if some things are not meant to be, then holding on blindly would only bring more harm than good... Someone once jokingly told me this.. "have some patience, your Mr. Right (aka the good guy) is walking his way to your heart from Africa.. it's a far away place!" hehe.. I wish I could give him a one-way plane ticket if he is...

Blue Jasmine
07-12-2006, 09:48 AM
Errr ... a person who knows what he is doing and his purpose in life, put it this way, I know this is bad, that's my purpose and and I know what I'm doing, so can I be considered a good man? Yes? No?

If want the details, this is it ... date every girl as I grow, sleep with them, dump them straight, smoke and gamble, cheat on others. Those are also purpose and also know what we're doing.

Since you known the purpose can you tell me whether this is right or wrong? the things you mention there? I assume we all know what is right or wrong from the beginning. Every human is born with a conscience unlike animal. When we do something really bad or wrong we can feel it ( we feel guilty) but we have the choice to ignore it ( continue doing wrong) or entertain it.

So back to my answer is wat is your purpose ( wat do u want to be look as) do you want to be look as a good guy or bad guy? Is that simple..whatever you do i am not here to say wrong or right...is just your say and your decision. the consequences you will bear sooner or later.

Sugarfree
07-12-2006, 10:37 AM
Since Kokomo ain't married, it'd be easier (I'm not suggesting that he should) for him to switch from bad to good guy, then good to bad. No committments, mah. Hehehe. Right, Kokomo? :D

kokomo
07-12-2006, 11:22 AM
Aiya, bad guys do robbery, rape, murder and etc etc ... me no do all these things yet. So why is there a need to switch to good guy or be worry of the consequences I made?

Yea, so long as 1 is not married, the horizons of the sea is far beyond our eyes can see. Imagine being in the middle of the ocean, you feel free, having choice of your lifetime, you can pick any kind of fishes there for your meals.

sugarstic
07-12-2006, 02:02 PM
I think there's a chinese saying that's pretty true... it kinda translates as 'if the guy is not bad, the girl won't like him..' I see so many nice girls getting hurt because they picked the bad rotten apples... when in actual fact, the sweet ones are just waiting to be noticed...

KakiLang
07-12-2006, 03:07 PM
Aiya, bad guys do robbery, rape, murder and etc etc ... me no do all these things yet. So why is there a need to switch to good guy or be worry of the consequences I made?

Yea, so long as 1 is not married, the horizons of the sea is far beyond our eyes can see. Imagine being in the middle of the ocean, you feel free, having choice of your lifetime, you can pick any kind of fishes there for your meals.

Walau eh....for those who r married...can see the other end of the ocean ah?? hehe :D :D So, married ppl can pick & eat one type of fish only la... :D :D :D There is a chinese saying "There r no cats that deny fish" wor... :D :D

kokomo
07-12-2006, 04:25 PM
Must you lay everything out on the table. Certain things don't have to be said so clearly. Among men, all will recognise it be it cat & fish or dog & bones. Until I get married then I'll tell you whether we're able to see end of ocean and stick to 1 type of fish or we still choose to have other fishes.

Sugarfree
07-12-2006, 04:51 PM
Aiya, bad guys do robbery, rape, murder and etc etc ... me no do all these things yet. So why is there a need to switch to good guy or be worry of the consequences I made?
No la. You misunderstood me, Kokomo. I had meant it in the context of our discussion la. I was only referring to girl-boy relationships la.

Since you ain't married, there's no committment. No committment, thus the oyster is your world. You can do anything (in the context of our discussion, of course) and get away with it easily!

Monday, fish & chips. Tuesday, nasi lemak. Wednesday, steamed promfret. Thursday, shark fins' soup. Friday, pizza. Weekend: decide only when the time comes. As compared to a married guy's "menu": chee cheong fun, year in, year out. Ok, throw in suet char to wash it all down. :) :D ;)

Hahahahaha.....

kokomo
07-12-2006, 05:00 PM
No la. You misunderstood me, Kokomo. I had meant it in the context of our discussion la. I was only referring to girl-boy relationships la.

Since you ain't married, there's no committment. No committment, thus the oyster is your world. You can do anything (in the context of our discussion, of course) and get away with it easily! :) :D ;)

Haha .. a toast to you Sugar! ;)

romi_o
08-12-2006, 12:37 AM
I think there's a chinese saying that's pretty true... it kinda translates as 'if the guy is not bad, the girl won't like him..' I see so many nice girls getting hurt because they picked the bad rotten apples... when in actual fact, the sweet ones are just waiting to be noticed...

well, that's true, i seen a lot of such cases, but when i asked around, all the ladies denied lar~
anyway, like what i said, when in love, small good things will be enough to cover even the largest weakness, but when love is gone, even the smallest mistake will cover all the good deeds, love and caring that u did...
maybe the ladies like that??
also, heard that a lady will feel like it is a challenge to change a guy, and it will be such a great achievement if they can proudly say that she can change the guy that loves her... but sadly, in most cases, the ladies are the one that changed, e.g. changed to accepting a guy that doesn't even match her criteria, but she's too stubborn and felt ashame to let go... haha :D
that's life.... in ur face!!!!

cheers!

Sugarfree
08-12-2006, 01:10 AM
Haha .. a toast to you Sugar! ;)
Cheers! :)

sugarstic
08-12-2006, 09:23 AM
Kokomo - Toast to Sugarfree or Sugarstic?? hehehehe.. be more specific when there's two of us.. :P

kokomo
08-12-2006, 10:35 AM
Haha ... when I say Sugar, both of you cheers'lah. Why need to ask more bout it. :p

Sugarfree
08-12-2006, 10:45 AM
Kokomo - Toast to Sugarfree or Sugarstic?? hehehehe.. be more specific when there's two of us.. :P
Just The Two Of Us? That's a mighty good song from Will Smith. Heard of it? :D

Cheers, Sugarstic & Kokomo! :)

sugarstic
08-12-2006, 01:57 PM
Yeah, that's a nice song!! CHEERZ!!!

KakiLang
08-12-2006, 02:19 PM
Must you lay everything out on the table. Certain things don't have to be said so clearly. Among men, all will recognise it be it cat & fish or dog & bones. Until I get married then I'll tell you whether we're able to see end of ocean and stick to 1 type of fish or we still choose to have other fishes.

Aiseh Kokomo, u didn't get my message ah?? What I meant was there r some married ppl also enjoy doing what u r enjoying now...picking any types of fish in the middle of the ocean as u do... :cool:

sugarstic
08-12-2006, 02:40 PM
Hmm.. "fishing" ... should I start with fresh water or salt water?? haha...

KakiLang
08-12-2006, 02:50 PM
Teng Siao Peng once said "Regardless it is black cat or white cat, if it catches mice, it is a good cat"

Can I say "Regardless it is fresh water or salt water fish, if it bites ur bait, then it is ur fish..." ?? :D :D :D

romi_o
09-12-2006, 12:49 AM
haha, good one kakilang... :D
anyway, can group like this ah?
fresh water: local fish
salt water: overseas (as what we chinese said, go overseas means soaked in salty sea)... haha
:p

one more thing, kakilang, bite ur bait also can get loose one.... :D

kokomo
09-12-2006, 02:49 AM
Aiseh Kokomo, u didn't get my message ah?? What I meant was there r some married ppl also enjoy doing what u r enjoying now...picking any types of fish in the middle of the ocean as u do... :cool:

Aiya, make it discreet'ma. KakiLang, you quote getting deeper, signals are getting weaker but still response coming in faster. Hehehe ...

Sugarstic, pretty much depends on your preference, whether salt water or fresh water? Me? Water bed ... hahaha ... :D

sugarstic
12-12-2006, 10:40 AM
Hmm.. if Salt water fish = overseas, then I think fresh water fish better.. ahha.. atleast I won't have to worry about differences in the way we celebrate traditional malaysian festivals! and I doubt those 'overseas' fishes can survive in our muddy waters!
Water bed?! Kokomo, we are talking about live fishes here la! hahahha... And btw, water beds are no good for your backbones!!! :p

kokomo
12-12-2006, 11:10 AM
Hardcore fella, sleeps on a hard bed! Poor fella also sleep on something hard. :( Yea, getting old, backbones ain't that good condition like before anymore.

How many fellas out there actually still do celebrate our traditional way for festive season? I dare say not many anymore. Any festive celebration, there's only 1 way to celebrate it, nite before it, go disco, go pub drink until drunk and go home.

sugarstic
12-12-2006, 03:56 PM
Straying from the topic, aren't we, Kokomo? haha..
About traditional way for 'celebrating' festive seasons.. hmm... well, how do u explain to salt water fishes that the chinese will be burning paper notes from Hell Bank and paper cars on one special day for departed relatives and expect salt water fish to understand?? it's very hard la... :)

KakiLang
12-12-2006, 06:43 PM
The fish has to get salted (ikan masin) then only can understand lor.... :D :D

kokomo
12-12-2006, 07:59 PM
If you can really communicate well with salt water fishes then I guess explaining to them bout our tradisional stuff like this won't be any hard. Ask them to watch more of those HK movies. Haha ... they burn lots of it there.

romi_o
13-12-2006, 01:10 AM
getting too far out of my bandwidth now, can't interpret the content... :p
hard to tune to all ur frequencies...
better get back to the main topic :)

kokomo
13-12-2006, 07:27 AM
Agree with you Romi, I myself have also swayed away from my thread. :o

kokomo
13-12-2006, 08:26 AM
Do you think there are good boys out there doing something against the law and are they still considered good boys? :confused:

sugarstic
13-12-2006, 08:35 AM
Do you think there are good boys out there doing something against the law and are they still considered good boys? :confused:
If they know that what they are doing is against the law, how can they expect others to consider them as 'good'??

kokomo
13-12-2006, 08:43 AM
If they know that what they are doing is against the law, how can they expect others to consider them as 'good'??

What they do is against the law, but besides that .. good personality that they have? People that they treat around them?

romi_o
14-12-2006, 05:35 AM
kokomo, u talking about "robin hood" that type ah??
robbing the rich = breaking the law
giving to the poor = good deeds
how do u define this type of person? hmm... funny
and how u define good girls if this is the case?
haha... headache~

sugarstic
14-12-2006, 08:20 AM
Robinhoods are just 'STORY characters' .. in reality, if you do that, you'd still end up in jail if you are unluckily caught by cops.. haha..
I think.. rather than look for good girls/boys, you should really look for those with a genuine good heart...

sakaibear
14-12-2006, 10:37 AM
well how are you to tell if that particular person has a good heart? seems really hard to tell the good ones from the bad ones nowadays.

Sugarfree
14-12-2006, 11:40 AM
well how are you to tell if that particular person has a good heart? seems really hard to tell the good ones from the bad ones nowadays.
agreed. there's just no way of telling at all. you just gotta find out the hard way. at least that's what all my ex-gfs tell me. :p

i was jesting there, of corz! was referring to the last line which is the punchline of my joke ;) laughter's the best medicine, they say. and that's what i subscribe to. :D

later :)

sugarstic
14-12-2006, 03:22 PM
agreed. there's just no way of telling at all. you just gotta find out the hard way. at least that's what all my ex-gfs tell me. :p

Wah... everyone notice "ALL MY EX-GFS" ! haha.. someone here has got lots of experience... :p

Sugarfree
14-12-2006, 03:30 PM
Wah... everyone notice "ALL MY EX-GFS" ! haha.. someone here has got lots of experience... :p
if you had read further down...i'd mentioned...JOKE! JOKE! urmm..you didn't get the joke, right, i take it? ahhh, well, what you don't know won't hurt ya. :p :D

sugarstic
14-12-2006, 03:36 PM
if you had read further down...i'd mentioned...JOKE! JOKE! urmm..you didn't get the joke, right, i take it? ahhh, well, what you don't know won't hurt ya. :p :D
I did read further down.. but it's fun poking fun at you.. hahaha... :D

Sugarfree
14-12-2006, 08:19 PM
I did read further down.. but it's fun poking fun at you.. hahaha... :D
Haha. You're so bad, laughing at my expense, eh? Wait, I'll get back at you yet! :D

sugarstic
15-12-2006, 04:00 PM
Haha. You're so bad, laughing at my expense, eh? Wait, I'll get back at you yet! :D
Sugarfree, get back to the topic la! :p
I think the topic should really read "Good people don't go for other good people"... alot of good guys don't exactly go for good girls either!

Sugarfree
15-12-2006, 04:28 PM
Sugarfree, get back to the topic la! :p
I think the topic should really read "Good people don't go for other good people"... alot of good guys don't exactly go for good girls either!
Guys mostly find bad girls more fun, I reckon. The good girls can be a tad boring at times..well...maybe. :D

Hope with that I'm now back on topic, Sugarstic. Don't spank me! :p :D

sugarstic
15-12-2006, 04:36 PM
Guys mostly find bad girls more fun, I reckon. The good girls can be a tad boring at times..well...maybe. :D

Hope with that I'm now back on topic, Sugarstic. Don't spank me! :p :D
Oh, so now gurls are just for 'FUN'? hmm... and if we are no fun, then we are just PLAIN BORING? hmm.. what happens to those in between? those average but not so plain jane?

Sugarfree
15-12-2006, 06:05 PM
Oh, so now gurls are just for 'FUN'? hmm...
Fun as in quick-witted, flirtatious, lively, talkative (not to be confused with nagging!), etc. Of course, good girls also possess some of these qualities. Perhaps, what they don't have is that devil-may-care attitude which I think is rather appealing to (most) guys. :)

sakaibear
16-12-2006, 02:47 AM
well if you dont know the bad....how will you treasure the good? as far as i am concerned, if the good guys gets left behind then i guess it's tough luck. as for the girls, it's their loss and devils will always be devils in most cases.

kellyk
17-12-2006, 11:58 PM
Well, my take is that (most) girls would go for bad guys for fun too... I am sure in the end they would like to settle down with a good guy... ermmm being rich would be a bonus ... muahahaha.... :D

wongus
18-12-2006, 12:39 AM
Oh, so now gurls are just for 'FUN'? hmm... and if we are no fun, then we are just PLAIN BORING? hmm.. what happens to those in between? those average but not so plain jane?
There's this stick of sugar that I know that's rather evil after what she did to me a couple nights back on the phone... oh.. probably at the behest of a silly horizontally challenged bear that this forum knows rather well too. Who said good girls can't be mischevious and fun eh?

Oh, btw, Hi Sakaibear! Hi Sugarstic! This would pretty much be the first time you guys see me posting, although I keep updated in these forums. :P (pray it's not the last one either! :P)

Anyway, my 2 cents..

Usually, good girl/bad boy relationships or vice versa are much talked about/gossiped, and hence, gather far more attention than good girl/good boy relationships. Think on it a little, and I'm sure you'll think of a few of your own friends who're in a good boy/good girl relationship. (I hope!) :P

And who said good girls ain't fun?

sakaibear
18-12-2006, 12:46 AM
oh my good man wongus, seems like you had quite a pinch there. i hope it was worth it, as sugarstic is as sweet as her name is......well at least i hope so :D

haha sugarfree....looks like u have a competitor here. lets see who wins the movie date first....wongus or sugarfree :p

sugarstic
18-12-2006, 08:42 AM
Oh, btw, Hi Sakaibear! Hi Sugarstic! This would pretty much be the first time you guys see me posting, although I keep updated in these forums. :P (pray it's not the last one either! :P)
Alamak... Wongus is here!!!? :p Oh dear.. choices choices choices?! hahahahhaha.. I like being *EVIL*! this is so much fun!!! :D

sugarstic
18-12-2006, 08:46 AM
oh my good man wongus, seems like you had quite a pinch there. i hope it was worth it, as sugarstic is as sweet as her name is......well at least i hope so :D

haha sugarfree....looks like u have a competitor here. lets see who wins the movie date first....wongus or sugarfree :p
Wahhh... I am flattered with all this attention!! Seems like EVIL gurls like me can still get a bit of fun and laughter going these days! haha... ;) :p :D
and oh, btw... If you get to know me better, I'm even sweeter than my nickname... :) hahaha.. and before you know it, you'd be addicted to SUGAR!!! muahhahahahah...

sakaibear
18-12-2006, 09:11 AM
well, i'm sure i would find that experience ever so exhilirating. still, you have yet to answer sugarfree or wongus about the dates. someone else is waiting for him. hehehehe :D

Sugarfree
18-12-2006, 09:51 AM
still, you have yet to answer sugarfree or wongus about the dates. someone else is waiting for him...
Sorry, it escapes me...someone's waiting for who? By someone, do you mean another girl somewhere? :confused:

sugarstic
18-12-2006, 02:35 PM
Sorry, it escapes me...someone's waiting for who? By someone, do you mean another girl somewhere? :confused:
I am equally confused as well.... what do you mean, Sakaibear!??! :confused: ;) :)

sakaibear
18-12-2006, 02:43 PM
someone is ready and waiting to date sugarfree ma. but he wants u and wongus wants u....so it's a battle of the titans for the sweet stick. :D

sugarstic
18-12-2006, 02:46 PM
someone is ready and waiting to date sugarfree ma. but he wants u and wongus wants u....so it's a battle of the titans for the sweet stick. :D
The battle should appropriately be about good girls going for bad guys and good guys going for bad girls... :p

sakaibear
18-12-2006, 02:54 PM
oh yeah.......sorry.....swayed from the topic. my bad. :D

kokomo
18-12-2006, 03:54 PM
Ahh ... suddenly this has b'come a dating point already eh. That's a good start. Keep those balls of yours rolling in then. Heheh ... anyway, I'm still at a lost here. :o

Hmmm .. SUGAR & EVIL , so meaning SUGAR = EVIL!!! :eek:

sugarstic
18-12-2006, 04:07 PM
Ahh ... suddenly this has b'come a dating point already eh. That's a good start. Keep those balls of yours rolling in then. Heheh ... anyway, I'm still at a lost here. :o

Hmmm .. SUGAR & EVIL , so meaning SUGAR = EVIL!!! :eek:
Uncle Kokomo :p everyone knows that SUGAR = EVIL... hence the horrible disorder known as diabetes and the horrible word called calories!!! :D

kokomo
18-12-2006, 04:23 PM
Uncle Kokomo :p everyone knows that SUGAR = EVIL... hence the horrible disorder known as diabetes and the horrible word called calories!!! :D

Mind me, I too have this crave for sweet stuff. Sigh! Sooner of later I'll get all this. Anyway, this is other meaning of Sugar being Evil. Don't try and change the subject. :p

sugarstic
18-12-2006, 04:38 PM
Mind me, I too have this crave for sweet stuff. Sigh! Sooner of later I'll get all this. Anyway, this is other meaning of Sugar being Evil. Don't try and change the subject. :p
I didnt!! The topic is still the same.. good guys like Uncle Kokomo not getting any gurls because apparently, good girls are blind and bad ones are aplenty!! :p

kokomo
18-12-2006, 04:49 PM
Eh, so fast judge me for being the good one already. Haha .. you come out and I kidnapped you. Throw you in Klang River. Feed the crocs. Scare anot? :p Unca Koko, dun care for girls that are good nor are they bad.

Sugarfree
18-12-2006, 04:55 PM
Eh, so fast judge me for being the good one already. Haha .. you come out and I kidnapped you. Throw you in Klang River. Feed the crocs. Scare anot? :p Unca Koko, dun care for girls that are good nor are they bad.
Uncle Kokomo is the good guy. Sugarstic, it's the ones who tell you they're good that you have to be careful of....like me.....muahha ha ahahaha... :p :D

kokomo
18-12-2006, 04:57 PM
I remember somewhere, some thread, someone mentioned that everyone ought to becareful of me. Hmm .. now it has become you. Haha ... great! Just great! Ladies come to papa ... Sugarfree is BAD~! :D :p

sakaibear
18-12-2006, 05:33 PM
come to grandpa u mean? hehehehehhehe............kokomo...internet u[ and running only......super fast u post. bagus. hahahaha

kokomo
18-12-2006, 05:36 PM
Haha .. more than 5 days can't post in here really sux!!! Now must patch up on the time. Streamyx side have already speed up my line. Muahahaha .... so now I post no problem.

sugarstic
18-12-2006, 05:36 PM
come to grandpa u mean? hehehehehhehe............
That's a quick one! hahaha.. grandpa vs tiadagula! gosh, how are we girls to choose?!?! :confused: :D :D :)

kokomo
18-12-2006, 05:38 PM
Choose? Need to choose summore? Hahah ... leave it to you girls.

Wednesday nite I have free movie tickets to "Confession of Pain" @ MV, 9pm. This is a confirm punya. Hahahaa .... girls, still need to choose?