Clinics Use Tissue From Babies Killed in Abortions for Cosmetic Injections

[rabbiteeth84]

hello guys.

i am doing a project on this topic. juz wanna knoe generally what malaysian think of this new techniques in the cosmetics field.

generally this is about people (not only women that is) using stem cell injections to recover their beauty, in another word, anti aging. what the thing tat's controversial here is that they were using aborted fotal tissues.

is it ethinical? what do you think? do tell me. thankss

[hhtee]

perhaps you need to define ethical / ethics in your project.

describe abortion also.

then, go on to describe if abortion is legal / illegal in Malaysia.

[rabbiteeth84]

hmmm... thankss

basically i wanna know how u guys view this subject

[starrnorth]

stem cells were used to save lifes, especially your own. Normally they are collected at birth and kept for the child for own use in case of serious disease (cancer etc).. It was not intended to cosmetic use, but then.... people seem so innovative.

Malaysia and a lot of countries worldwide do not condone use of human cells nowadays for cosmetic, especially aborted babies. No such products are register with the ministry of health here.

[kwchang]

I do not know anything about the use of aborted foetuses hence this is, as far as I know, an unsubstantiated conjecture. The person who started this thread should provide proof of such an allegation.

However, I believe he/she may be confused with the use of extracts from the placenta. As you may know, the placenta is removed after birth and it has nothing to do with the foetus after the baby is born. The placenta is known to contain chemicals that enhance skin appearance, hence it had been used for cosmetics. I do not know if they still do such extracts. Certainly it cannot be from foetuses.

[TiNKeRFY]

heard of placenta being used for cosmetics before..
but its not from human..
rather its from goats and cows...

read an article before about mothers in some part of rural china, consuming their own to enhanced their health, or was it the whole family sharing the placenta soup... truly disgusting...

as for aborted foetus, have not heard of their tissues being used for cosmetics, but the stem cells from a foetus being transplanted to cure disease or something like that...

Found THIS (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-1739882,00.html) from random googling...

[rabbiteeth84]

as for proof, do come this link

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/femail/article.html?in_article_id=399376&in_page_id=1879&ico=Homepage&icl=TabModule&icc=FEMAIL&ct=5

placenta and stem cells techniques are two different thing, yes. i am talking about stem cells injection here. sorry i did not make myself clear

[kwchang]

If you were to read the article carefully, you will find that they mention using stem cells harvested from the umbilical cords. There is nothing to do with the foetus. Once the baby is born, both the umbilicus and the placenta is separated from the mother and the baby. These tissues are no longer needed for the baby.

Remember what I said about extracts from the placenta? Same thing for the umbilicus.

The later parts of the article mentioned the use of stem cells from aborted foetuses. The article went as far as to hint at the possibility that foetuses were intentionally aborted for the stem cell harvest. As I see it, the article is purposely sensationalising the issues of stem-cell techniques. The article is trying to make the readers suspect inhuman practices for the sake of beauty.

Please note that The Daily Mail in the UK is another tabloid which depends on twisting of facts to sell the paper. This paper, if I remember correctly, is not taken seriously.

Rabbitteeth, for a project paper, you had better steer away from tabloid reports to substantiate your references. Please check for references from scientific and medical journals. I hope thay have taught you how to do bibliographical searches. If all you have are references from newspapers, then your project paper is doomed for failure.

[rabbiteeth84]

thanks kwchang.

you seems to knoe lots of stuff about this placenta and stem cells technology. may i ask you wats the difference?