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clutz4words
17-10-2006, 02:34 PM
I've bought a nutrient pill bout 3 1/2 weeks ago that slims down effectively without having any effect on my appetite/drinks. This is not those who called themselves supplimentary food. I was weighing at 86kg as i'm putting on weights after my girl is born last year, now i'm at 78kg and still going down till all fat is burn, yet i eat food and drink like usual. My wife also could wear back the dresses before she delivers my girl, even her colleagues noticed her differences.

Testimony: My staffs tried it, one of them loss bout 28kg... Most of them loses bout 10kg+-. My wife's colleagues also started trying on it last week, by weekend should have feedback on how effective was it. But i was told that these pills works differently on each individuals, it was fast for me and my wife.

For those who are interested in slimming down effectively, you'll be the judged of it yourself. It must be seen to believe and i'm sure there are many out there who have tried it already.

This is just to share with all.

birdy
17-10-2006, 02:40 PM
Mind to enlighten us with the pill information esp. will it cleanse your stomach and put u in the toilet bowl for hours everyday? How many times we need to take everyday? Was it a direct selling product and most importantly how much it cost?

Sato
17-10-2006, 03:24 PM
another question is the product approved by Kementerian Kesihatan Malaysia? :)

Zimon
17-10-2006, 04:06 PM
I hope the product is not one of those that belong to the duromine or pentermine group. If it is, then it requires careful doctor's advise and guidance.

Do ensure its an approved product with proper registration, the product should bear the markings " MAL xxxxxxxxxxxx " name of importer or distributor. Or risk damaging your life with side effects.

tbearer
17-10-2006, 04:46 PM
can you pls list down the ingredients and nutrition content of this product? where is this manufactured? what are the certifications?

clutz4words
19-10-2006, 03:33 PM
Mind to enlighten us with the pill information esp. will it cleanse your stomach and put u in the toilet bowl for hours everyday? How many times we need to take everyday? Was it a direct selling product and most importantly how much it cost?

First to clearify your concern it will not caused us hours of toilet bowl disaster which i experienced too previously...(No lau sai)

Daily consumption of once a day- early morning before meal/ before sleep 45mins before taking any food.

It's only Rm 140.00 (considerably affordable la...)
Yes, it is a direct selling product. SNE- Super Natural Essence

clutz4words
19-10-2006, 03:34 PM
another question is the product approved by Kementerian Kesihatan Malaysia? :)

Yes, this product is approved by our Ministry of Health cos it is all natural ingredients and no other substance.

sweetie
19-10-2006, 03:44 PM
Yes, this product is approved by our Ministry of Health cos it is all natural ingredients and no other substance.


can u advise where can we actually get this product, is it have to buy directly from d direct sales agent? or any website related to this product?

clutz4words
19-10-2006, 03:54 PM
I hope the product is not one of those that belong to the duromine or pentermine group. If it is, then it requires careful doctor's advise and guidance.

Do ensure its an approved product with proper registration, the product should bear the markings " MAL xxxxxxxxxxxx " name of importer or distributor. Or risk damaging your life with side effects.

Yes, the product is approved by our ministry of health. SNE- MAL05101709TC

clutz4words
19-10-2006, 04:02 PM
can u advise where can we actually get this product, is it have to buy directly from d direct sales agent? or any website related to this product?

Probably u can call up Victor Liew 016-9492912 who is a pioneer for this Corporation, he'll arrange for you a briefing if you want.

clutz4words
19-10-2006, 04:03 PM
can you pls list down the ingredients and nutrition content of this product? where is this manufactured? what are the certifications?

Their website snemarketing.com

sweetie
19-10-2006, 04:58 PM
so the product name is SNE?, i have go through the website, is not the kintop123 right?

clutz4words
20-10-2006, 09:01 AM
so the product name is SNE?, i have go through the website, is not the kintop123 right?

The name is SNE-Super Natural Essence.

Just to share with u further, i've dropped another kg eventhough my consumption of food is still normal. According to the nutricienist, it's due to the excess fats are turned to carbo...that's why i've been not able to sllep early these days cos carbo keeps me awake. & what i did...paper work and reports lor....

birdy
20-10-2006, 11:04 AM
Just wonder if you would be kind enough to show your before and after picture? :eek:

PJS
20-10-2006, 12:20 PM
Good that u hv lost some weight. :) Hope u keep yourself healthy.

Just be mindful of weight loss products which contain diuretics, appetite suppresants, and caffeine. They make u lose weight through water loss, screw up a person's normal appetite, and keeps ur energy up with caffeine. After ur done with the dieting, the weight shoots back up, or u suffer other side effects. If this SNE product does none of the above, then good.

Lu Lau
21-10-2006, 10:20 AM
Hi clutz,

I think you really mean Kintop 123 and not SNE capsule.

Kintop 123 with the excell ditoxify tea are for slimming purpose.
SNE capsule is for a TOTAL health care.

SNE Marketing Sdn Bhd is the company wbehind this great product!
Yes, it is one of the MLM product BUT from my personal view, it does not matter at all. Is the product itself that we should concern and not who is behind it right. I do understand that this is due to so many MLM companies which actually spoilt the marlet and people's trust but hey, there are info, there are restimonials, read then and avaluat them, you decide if it is really what it says!!! No one can cheat you on that!! Right?

I did the same, I am not a MLM product buyer neither do I join any but...after having two boys plus few years of over stress in life, I start to become bigger each day. It is not because of I ate too much, neither do I take any junk food and having bad diet, is just because of over stress in daily life.

Before one consider taking any slimming product ( speaking from my own experience and what I learn from SNE nutritionist, oh yes! I call, I ask so many question and I went trought their health course ), one should FIRST find out:

What is the cause of my obesity?

Not every one can find the answer to this question though and every human are so different in body condition.

There are 5 factor/reason why people become fat:

1) Inherited
2) Decreased metobolism
3) Comfortable life style
4) Delicious food
5) Lack of exercise

Obesity can accure in 6 stage of our life:

1) Adolescence
2) marriage
3) Pregnancy
4) After birth
5) Middle age
6) Old Age

OBESITY is the is a sickness, it is the "foundation" for many kind of dieseas. The danger of abesity are:

1) Cholestrol
2) Gall Stone
3) Cholecystitis
4) High Triglycerides
5) Endometrium Cancer
6) Breast Cancer
7) Impotence
8) Drowsy Suffocation Syndrome

The excessive fat in human body jeopedize health, but we need suitable quantities of fat in order to oabsorbs vitamin A, D, E and K.

Deficiency in essential fats will lead to:

1) unhealthy growth
2) xeropthalmia
3) night blindness
4) infertility
5) miscarriage,
6) entero-gastro bleeding
7) dicrease functionality of respiratory
8) intestinal and
9) immunity systems.

Obesity is cause by two factors:

1) imbalance nutritional or
2) imbalance metobolic

Medical study shows that "cells" inside the human body are divided into two different group:

a) Fat storage cells and
b) Heat producing cells

Those who are born with more fat burning cells ( the lucky ones :) ) will not get fat even if they over eat but...

Those who are unfortunately born with fat storage cells (like me ;) ) will get fat even by drinking water.

People who know me and saw the change on me always ask me these question:

Is it safe?

YES!

Is it halal?

YES!

Is it 100% natural?

YES!

Is it tested?

YES!

Is it 100% effective?

YES!!

Will it cause ANY side effect?

NO!!

Why are yo so confident?

Because Kintop 123 comply totally to the four main standards and three prohibitions set by THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION!

Now, what are the four main standard and three prohibition?

Four main standards:

1) Effectively reduces fats within the human body without damaging muscles.
2) Acheiving ideal slimming effects without rebound.
3) Without significant side effect and posibility of misuse.
4) Improves metabilism in those suffering from obesity.

Three prohibition:

1) No fasting
2) No rebound
3) No diarrhea

Further more, kintop is approved by Malaysia Health Ministry, Singapore Health Ministry and also China Health Ministry.

What and how do kintop help us achieving what we dream of - a beuty that come from inside, come from a healthy body.

BALANCING YOUR HEAT PRODUCING CELLS AND FAT STORAGE CELLS!!!

The actuall price for Kintop 123 which come in a set with the excell tea ( for the better result ) is RM290.00 per set(Kintop RM260.00 + excel RM30), member price. The aactuall member price for excel tea is RM75.00. It is a supe deal in this slimming set.

SNE caosule is RM180.00 per box of 60 capsule.

When purchase, make sure that you fyll up a member form, sign it and apply for membership so that you will not get con!! There will be a member card(red colour) send to you the folowing month. You will also received a cheque of 3% discount of the item that you buy (for kintop, you will get RM7.80 and SNE RM5.40 for each box that you purchase).

I am not sure why clutz can get at RM140.00 but it is NOT right anyhow. Do you get the member card? 3% cheque? If not, then you are lossing more then RM40.00 that you save in the beginning.

One fact that I like to make it very clear that I am not posting all these any other intentions or purposes then just plain SHARING.

That is what I always wanted to do, that is what I always do and that is what my Nutritionist( my teacher, my mentor) wanted me to do - is to share with others, so that others too have the chance to regain their health!

Everybody deserve a second change in regaining their good health!!

I have so much more info to share but I think it will be enaught for this post. I will share more.....later....

Take care...

mrmayur
21-10-2006, 11:57 AM
Where can i buy this product? Is it available outside at the pharmacy? or do i hv to buy it from a member?

clutz, how long has it taken you to loose after taking the pill for the first time?

I hope there aren't any side effects with this products.

Thanks :)

mrmayur
21-10-2006, 12:04 PM
Lu Lau,

What is the difference between kintop 123 n SNE ?
Could anyone explain?

Thanks

Lu Lau
21-10-2006, 01:19 PM
Lu Lau,

What is the difference between kintop 123 n SNE ?
Could anyone explain?

Thanks

Kintop 123 is fo healthy slimming
SNE is for a total body health care. It is tested and approved by:

1) FDA - American Food and Drug Association
2) Ministry of Health Malaysia.
3) SGS - Inner Mongolia Yuhangren Hitech Industrial Co.Ltd.
4) China green food Developement Centre
5) Permulalab Sdn Bhd malaysia
6) ALS Technichem (S) Pte Ltd, Singapore

The main ingredience is Frucrus Hippohea. If you go to google, you will find lots of info about this remarkable fruit plant.

In this small capsule, it contains more then 200 types of menerala nd vitamin our body need.

I take SNe every day, so do my mother, father, my husband and my two sons, most of the family member are taking it.

I have experience it myself the goodness of this health care product, I am greatfull that I found it.

My younger son suffer from constipation at the age of two, for the whole year, I am like in and out of clinic to clinic but nothing seems to helps. I am frustrated but the worse was to see him sitting on his pottie for hours but nothing comes.....he cried and cried and I am helpless....

Then I got to know SNE, I took two weeks of my time to read, do reserach, watch the info cd, testimonials in catalogue as well as in cd, I met live testimonials, friends that cured from his 15 years diabetes, a women that live a normal life free of breats cancer although she had been diagnose second stage breast and so on: You may think that I make this up but I am not. Two week ago, 08 Oct 2006, I met her again, we attend the health course together in KL.

I had a friend name Ms Tan, her son who are 8 last year had an operation at Pantai Medcal Centre Subang if I am not mistaken for a small grow on his lady finger parm bone. The first Childbone specialist doctor took away about an inche of the bone around that area.

Two weeks later, there are infection and she brought her son back for checking and this time, she went for second opinion, this second doctor(accordint to her) told her that " may be the bone powder that the first doctor put contain some bacteria which cause this infection" and her son was reschadule for second operation in one month.

We when to the same piano class for my son and her daughter, she ws very devestated and panic, that was when I told her about SNE and from what I know, it cold help her sons problem.

After discussing with her husband, she gave a try, today, after one year, her son had never been to second operation. Infact he was recouvered within about four months time.

My sister in Pandan Jaya had aedes last year and she regain her strenght and anergy in two week with SNE.

SNE has very high % of effectiveness towards skin infection :

1) Burn - 100%
2) Scald - 100%
3) Cut - 100%
4) Lupus Erythematosus - 62%
5) Acne - 100%
6) Seborrheic dermatitis - 88.9%
7) Psoriasis - 66.4%
8) Pemphigus - 86%
9) Dermatitis - 92.3%

Infectious Disease:

Stranguris Infection of the Urinary tract - 96%
Non - stranguris infection of the urinary tract - 89%
Gynecologycal and obstetric Infection - 95.4
Prostatitis, Epididymitis - 79%
Suppuration of the lugn - 85.5%
Upper respiratory tract infection - 89.5%
Infectious skin disease - 88.5
Gastrointestinal tract infection 83.5
Billiary tract infection - 83.5
Micoplasmal pneumonia - 87.5
Bacteria pneumonia - 87.5
Eye Infection - 87%
Infection of the buccal cavity - 85%
Ear, nose and throad infection - 81%

And so many more......

isarahim
21-10-2006, 01:34 PM
another question is the product approved by Kementerian Kesihatan Malaysia?
They would never approve something that works.

saml
21-10-2006, 01:55 PM
Somehow I am immune to all the 'testimonies' from this and that person. If they are so effective then no need for doctors already. The inventor of the product should get a nobel prize for medicine. When people are sick they will tend to want to believe anything and will try anything to get a quick cure. No disrespect to the hordes to people who are in mlm but when the promise of wealth comes into the picture, the product is obscured by the greed.

tbearer
21-10-2006, 02:15 PM
Kintop 123 is fo healthy slimming
SNE is for a total body health care. It is tested and approved by:

1) FDA - American Food and Drug Association
2) Ministry of Health Malaysia.
3) SGS - Inner Mongolia Yuhangren Hitech Industrial Co.Ltd.
4) China green food Developement Centre
5) Permulalab Sdn Bhd malaysia
6) ALS Technichem (S) Pte Ltd, Singapore

The main ingredience is Frucrus Hippohea. If you go to google, you will find lots of info about this remarkable fruit plant.

In this small capsule, it contains more then 200 types of menerala nd vitamin our body need.

I take SNe every day, so do my mother, father, my husband and my two sons, most of the family member are taking it.

I have experience it myself the goodness of this health care product, I am greatfull that I found it.

My younger son suffer from constipation at the age of two, for the whole year, I am like in and out of clinic to clinic but nothing seems to helps. I am frustrated but the worse was to see him sitting on his pottie for hours but nothing comes.....he cried and cried and I am helpless....

Then I got to know SNE, I took two weeks of my time to read, do reserach, watch the info cd, testimonials in catalogue as well as in cd, I met live testimonials, friends that cured from his 15 years diabetes, a women that live a normal life free of breats cancer although she had been diagnose second stage breast and so on: You may think that I make this up but I am not. Two week ago, 08 Oct 2006, I met her again, we attend the health course together in KL.

I had a friend name Ms Tan, her son who are 8 last year had an operation at Pantai Medcal Centre Subang if I am not mistaken for a small grow on his lady finger parm bone. The first Childbone specialist doctor took away about an inche of the bone around that area.

Two weeks later, there are infection and she brought her son back for checking and this time, she went for second opinion, this second doctor(accordint to her) told her that " may be the bone powder that the first doctor put contain some bacteria which cause this infection" and her son was reschadule for second operation in one month.

We when to the same piano class for my son and her daughter, she ws very devestated and panic, that was when I told her about SNE and from what I know, it cold help her sons problem.

After discussing with her husband, she gave a try, today, after one year, her son had never been to second operation. Infact he was recouvered within about four months time.

My sister in Pandan Jaya had aedes last year and she regain her strenght and anergy in two week with SNE.

SNE has very high % of effectiveness towards skin infection :

1) Burn - 100%
2) Scald - 100%
3) Cut - 100%
4) Lupus Erythematosus - 62%
5) Acne - 100%
6) Seborrheic dermatitis - 88.9%
7) Psoriasis - 66.4%
8) Pemphigus - 86%
9) Dermatitis - 92.3%

Infectious Disease:

Stranguris Infection of the Urinary tract - 96%
Non - stranguris infection of the urinary tract - 89%
Gynecologycal and obstetric Infection - 95.4
Prostatitis, Epididymitis - 79%
Suppuration of the lugn - 85.5%
Upper respiratory tract infection - 89.5%
Infectious skin disease - 88.5
Gastrointestinal tract infection 83.5
Billiary tract infection - 83.5
Micoplasmal pneumonia - 87.5
Bacteria pneumonia - 87.5
Eye Infection - 87%
Infection of the buccal cavity - 85%
Ear, nose and throad infection - 81%

And so many more......

any accreditation from european counterparts? i dont trust approvals from FDA, msia, china and spore. there have been so many instances that there have been approvals from all of these countries, and a few years down the road, the products are recalled.

as for spore, remember the actress who nearly died due to liver failure? it was due to taking supplement, apparently approved by so many parties, but not european counterpart.

as for me, anything that my body is taking, i ensure that it has minimum european certification.

cskok8
21-10-2006, 06:29 PM
FDA is the USA Food & Drug Administration. They have two main sections - Food and Drugs :D

For drugs you have to prove that it works and it is safe.
For food & supplements you only have to prove that it is safe.

Guess which section these "miracle cures" are registered under.

Just a few testimonials (especially from the people selling you the product) does not prove that something really works. And saml is right, whoever invented such a miracle will be in line for the next Nobel Prize in Medicine/Physiology.

rie
21-10-2006, 06:34 PM
I've bought a nutrient pill bout 3 1/2 weeks ago that slims down effectively without having any effect on my appetite/drinks. This is not those who called themselves supplimentary food. I was weighing at 86kg as i'm putting on weights after my girl is born last year, now i'm at 78kg and still going down till all fat is burn, yet i eat food and drink like usual. My wife also could wear back the dresses before she delivers my girl, even her colleagues noticed her differences.

Testimony: My staffs tried it, one of them loss bout 28kg... Most of them loses bout 10kg+-. My wife's colleagues also started trying on it last week, by weekend should have feedback on how effective was it. But i was told that these pills works differently on each individuals, it was fast for me and my wife.

For those who are interested in slimming down effectively, you'll be the judged of it yourself. It must be seen to believe and i'm sure there are many out there who have tried it already.

This is just to share with all.
How many products are you taking? Does it caused your heart to beat fast?

Lu Lau
21-10-2006, 08:43 PM
Sorry guys, I do not share this info for comercial purpose.

As I mention, no one can tell you or even force you what to but or not to but. You decide.

When you go makan at mamak, do you ask for cert? When you buy health product from any store including pharmasys, do you ask for cert?

The point is, there are too many good product in this planet, you choose what ever and which ever that suit your need and your economy situation.

For me, as long as I believe this product could give me what I want, which is health, I will give a try. Is that simple.

I see that you do not trust or believe our Ministry of Health, what about Ministry of Health in China?? You can't trust their test too?? FDA? NO?

What about Singapore? Remember few years ago was big media news some welknown people suffer side effect from a sliming product and end up loosing one of her kidney. Since then, Singapore govenment has never approve any sliming product BUT kintop DID penatrade the Singapore market recentlu after a long wait for the expert team appointed by Singapore govenment to perform test after test on kintop.

You are right, the cert COUld be bogus, who am I to know right? The only way is to make phone call and ask them! Right? Call FDA, give the ref no or what ever printed in the cert if your curiosity strike hard, it is good to have curiosity, you will get more certain and accurate answer then me who is a stranger and no body to you right?

Look, as I say, NO one can force you to take something that YOU do not believe will work due to your bad experience with mlm or so...but, dont you think it is a bit unfair and too soon to judge before you even study this product. For me, I do not care what marketing behind this product, it can be any ABC company, as long as it produce the result that I wish for.

It is like deciding to be or not to be your friend just by judging from your back ground before I even try to get to know you. Dont you think it is a bit unfair to you? Who know, you might be a super nice person and I might just lost a life time opportunity to know ssuch good friend right??

tbearer
21-10-2006, 09:10 PM
Look, as I say, NO one can force you to take something that YOU do not believe will work due to your bad experience with mlm or so...but, dont you think it is a bit unfair and too soon to judge before you even study this product. For me, I do not care what marketing behind this product, it can be any ABC company, as long as it produce the result that I wish for.

i understand where you are coming from, since you have seen the results.

that's the thinking of many people out there. they only want results, do not really care about the certs and accreditations. only think about the consequences after something happens.

i'm not trying to trash the product. it's your choice. i'm just sharing my view on how i choose what supplements to take. it has to be SAFE and of course, produce RESULTS.

birdy
21-10-2006, 09:23 PM
I guess everyone is worried about the hidden side effects...YES..the slimming product may be very effective but they may come with hidden side effect which one cannot feel it until sometimes down the road (or some may have immediate side effect).

So, accrediction from authorities is very important. Of course a person can take the risk by just consume the product hoping for the best.

Zimon
21-10-2006, 09:24 PM
Hmmmm .. I am beginning to sense some product promotion ( and advertising) in this thread.

birdy
21-10-2006, 09:28 PM
Hmmmm .. I am beginning to sense some product promotion ( and advertising) in this thread.
So, u smell Bananas too? :D

Lu Lau
21-10-2006, 10:03 PM
Sorry dear! I am not! Is just plains sharing but you can think what you want lah!

I join this thread to explain and clearified to clutz's opening post from what I know. No comercial purpose.

So..I am out of here.

Good luck girl! :)

mrmayur
22-10-2006, 12:32 AM
LoL, well done..

starrnorth
22-10-2006, 01:39 AM
I read (or rather scanned through) what was written on this thread and wish to inform all readers that the Ministry of Health will approve drugs only if there is conclusive evidence, after trials which they call double-blind control.

That is why they have a law prohibiting advertising of treatment of some disease conditions to stop claims which cannot be substantiated.

Any auntie and uncle can come and tell you this wonder capsule work for anything, please be careful. This is called testimonial evidence. Dangerous.

In many situations, people and children grow out of their disease conditions. If you happen to be taking the wonder drug just as you grow out the sickness, you think it is from this wonder drug.

But people seldom grow out of cancer. If you stop taking the tested medicine and take the so-called wonder drug, you are sure a goner. By the time you realise it, it is too late.

starrnorth
22-10-2006, 01:44 AM
Yes, this product is approved by our Ministry of Health cos it is all natural ingredients and no other substance.

The MOH approve this substance NOT because it is all natural ingredients but because it is consider safe as opposed to unsafe. It also does not mean effective.

Please note that natural ingredients does not necessarily mean safe.

No offense meant, just clarifying. Thank you.

PJS
22-10-2006, 01:55 AM
Oh my, oh my, another MLM product hotly debated here. :p

Seems like there's a wonder food invented every day, aren't we humans lucky?

At the rate the "nutritional supplements" advances in this country, everybody will sure be immune to all diseases and will live to be 200 yrs old. :rolleyes:

But what I know is, there is a millionaire born every minute and it ain't the general consumers. Guess who are the millionaires? ;)

saml
22-10-2006, 09:52 AM
Its just like those power boosters for cars. If anything happens to your car if you use the product there is a product liability insurance for 10million ringgit or 100 million us$. If all that is put into the concoction is petrol from shell and packaged into a very nice plastic bottle and sold for RM150 per bottle, what can go wrong with your car? Similarly if placebos are put into those wonder pills, which may contain nothing more than the extract of organically grown water melons or papayas, of course there will be no side effect as as far as those certification agencies are concerned it is not harmful to health and when one gets a handful of personal testimonials from the 'cured' people, legends are born and the perpetrators of these schemes are laughing all the way to the bank and you have got all these people holding on to their very precious bottles of papaya/water melon extracts!!!

FineTuned
22-10-2006, 11:39 AM
SNE has very high % of effectiveness towards skin infection :

1) Burn - 100%
2) Scald - 100%
3) Cut - 100%
4) Lupus Erythematosus - 62%
5) Acne - 100%
6) Seborrheic dermatitis - 88.9%
7) Psoriasis - 66.4%
8) Pemphigus - 86%
9) Dermatitis - 92.3%

Infectious Disease:

Stranguris Infection of the Urinary tract - 96%
Non - stranguris infection of the urinary tract - 89%
Gynecologycal and obstetric Infection - 95.4
Prostatitis, Epididymitis - 79%
Suppuration of the lugn - 85.5%
Upper respiratory tract infection - 89.5%
Infectious skin disease - 88.5
Gastrointestinal tract infection 83.5
Billiary tract infection - 83.5
Micoplasmal pneumonia - 87.5
Bacteria pneumonia - 87.5
Eye Infection - 87%
Infection of the buccal cavity - 85%
Ear, nose and throad infection - 81%

And so many more......
Which studies did these figures come from?
This is so reminiscent of the water filter case discussed recently.......

starrnorth
24-10-2006, 03:16 AM
I was wondering too where the figures come from.

Also please note that Burn, Scald, Cut, Lupus Erythematosus, Seborrheic dermatitis, Psoriasis Pemphigus, Dermatitis are not skin infections.

I feel sorry for the person who first posted this if he has done so out of ignorance of the whole thing, or perhaps been given wrong information by the seller of this miracle concotion.

clutz4words
26-10-2006, 10:03 AM
Good that u hv lost some weight. :) Hope u keep yourself healthy.

Just be mindful of weight loss products which contain diuretics, appetite suppresants, and caffeine. They make u lose weight through water loss, screw up a person's normal appetite, and keeps ur energy up with caffeine. After ur done with the dieting, the weight shoots back up, or u suffer other side effects. If this SNE product does none of the above, then good.

To be frank with u, none of the above was any part of the circumstances i went thru... In fact, i went thru it just like every normal day which i take food like normal, drink water like normal(alcohol too :) ) and i don't feel anything but hyper as the medicine burns my fats to carbo... extra energy for the day.. hehe...

kookee
27-10-2006, 04:02 PM
This is strictly objective sharing. I've personally tried this 'slimming package' consists of the SNE capsules, Kintop and the tea thingy. Cost RM650/mth. Started end of June when my weight went up ridiculously, from 54kg to 59kg, on the way to 60kg.

Btw slimming down or chucking out my whole wardrobe, I opted the former. I was required to consume the 'package' 3 mths for slimming. Whereby, maintenance period 3 mths after that. I'm in my 4th mth, maintenance period now. I only take Kintop and tea thingy now. Hate the SNE capsule. My weight now stands at 49kgs. Scarily crazy!

But yet, I remain a sceptic. Too good to be true, probably. During the slimming 3 mths, I experienced minor discomfort initially. E.g. extremely thirsty (result in extensive water and tea thingy consumption - can finish 1 liter in less than 1 hour - have to make sure loo is nearby at all time), body felt liked burning (no need to wear jacket in the normally freezing office) and a mild diarrhea during 1st week of consumption. Yeah, felt extremely energetic. Also lose appetite, totally! I would stop eating after 5 bites or less for that period. Which lead me to believe that this medication is actually appetite suppressant. I used to slim down via meal supplement many years back so there. Bear in mind that having to reduce my food intake by nearly 90%, I also do yoga, 1-2 hours daily.

Now, I'm eating a little bit more but still much much lesser than last time, approximately half of a small portion. I also opt for healthier food and I stick to my yoga routine. I strongly suspect that if I stop my intake of Kintop, I might probably swell up again so I persist to cultivate a good eating habit and exercise. Hopefully, when I finally stop in 2 mths time, my body is disciplined and trained to not wallop any food that comes to sight. It's more like a mental and will training now. At least I don't have to throw out my wardrobe but unfortunately my larger size baju can no longer fit me. I figure I shelf them, just in case I grow big again. By the way, I still feel extremely thirsty even now so have to drink lots of water. No harm in that!

Conclusion....SNE does help but nothing beats good old healthy eating habit and daily exercise. And to be able to slim down is nothing, being able to maintain is everything.

I understand that the product effect and result varies for each individual so to whoever that opted for this method, good luck.

tbearer
27-10-2006, 08:49 PM
This is strictly objective sharing. I've personally tried this 'slimming package' consists of the SNE capsules, Kintop and the tea thingy. Cost RM650/mth. Started end of June when my weight went up ridiculously, from 54kg to 59kg, on the way to 60kg.

Btw slimming down or chucking out my whole wardrobe, I opted the former. I was required to consume the 'package' 3 mths for slimming. Whereby, maintenance period 3 mths after that. I'm in my 4th mth, maintenance period now. I only take Kintop and tea thingy now. Hate the SNE capsule. My weight now stands at 49kgs. Scarily crazy!

But yet, I remain a sceptic. Too good to be true, probably. During the slimming 3 mths, I experienced minor discomfort initially. E.g. extremely thirsty (result in extensive water and tea thingy consumption - can finish 1 liter in less than 1 hour - have to make sure loo is nearby at all time), body felt liked burning (no need to wear jacket in the normally freezing office) and a mild diarrhea during 1st week of consumption. Yeah, felt extremely energetic. Also lose appetite, totally! I would stop eating after 5 bites or less for that period. Which lead me to believe that this medication is actually appetite suppressant. I used to slim down via meal supplement many years back so there. Bear in mind that having to reduce my food intake by nearly 90%, I also do yoga, 1-2 hours daily.

Now, I'm eating a little bit more but still much much lesser than last time, approximately half of a small portion. I also opt for healthier food and I stick to my yoga routine. I strongly suspect that if I stop my intake of Kintop, I might probably swell up again so I persist to cultivate a good eating habit and exercise. Hopefully, when I finally stop in 2 mths time, my body is disciplined and trained to not wallop any food that comes to sight. It's more like a mental and will training now. At least I don't have to throw out my wardrobe but unfortunately my larger size baju can no longer fit me. I figure I shelf them, just in case I grow big again. By the way, I still feel extremely thirsty even now so have to drink lots of water. No harm in that!

Conclusion....SNE does help but nothing beats good old healthy eating habit and daily exercise. And to be able to slim down is nothing, being able to maintain is everything.

I understand that the product effect and result varies for each individual so to whoever that opted for this method, good luck.

thanks for sharing objectively. i bet other slimming products in the market have similar experiences. maybe others can start sharing too?

PJS
28-10-2006, 12:09 AM
Net net to me is - whether your body gain weight or lose weight, it's dependent on INPUT minus OUTPUT.

Picture this, u pump a full tank of Primax 3 or Tiger fuel into a Kancil, then depending on how far u drive the Kancil, will result in how much the car weights at the end of journey. I don't need to put in a 'fuel optimizer tablet' (diet supplement) into my Kancil's tank to make the fuel burn more efficiently or whatever... Just run it more to empty the tank lah! :D

Of coz living beings are not that simple... there is metabolism, conversion of carbs into fat for storage, or conversion of carb & protein into muscle mass, or conversion of fats or muscle into energy, it all depends on what 'mode of operation' u r in, plus all that other jazz going on in our bodies, blah, blah, blah.... u get the picture?

So, to get rid of excess weight, just drive ur body more, and harder!

Don't need no supplements. :D :D

jessi24
28-10-2006, 05:39 AM
Just my two cents.

I don't believe in slimming products. If you want to slim down, go exercise and eat healthy.

However SNE works. It is a 'miracle' product, but for your entire family to consume SNE you will also need a miracle as in suddenly striking it rich. :rolleyes: One box of SNE is RM180. Recommended dosage is 2 - 4 capsules a day. There are 60 capsules in a box. Just imagine if a family has 5 persons and one person consumes a box each month, that would already be RM900 a month if you are taking the minimum recommended dosage. How many people/family can really afford it?

My kiddo has asthma and after taking it for a some time he is better. He is able to sleep the whole night and doesn't have difficulty breathing and my mom's high blood pressure is controlled. So I have seen it work. I would recommend it for those who can afford it.

Those who are taking vitamin E capsules please do ensure that the one you are taking has altogether 8 types of vitamin E. If not long term consumption of only 1 - 2 types may result in cancer instead. (I read it in a medical journal some where and also I believe an article about this was in the star paper a few days ago.)

I know I am out of topic but before I go, the enzymes in your food is 'killed' when it touches salt so for those who can stand to eat like a cow :D (just munching on plain, raw vegetable) you should be healthy enough not to rely too much on supplements. Or you can just get a juicer and blend yourself a glass of vegetable + fruit juice every morning without adding any salt or sugar.

clutz4words
28-10-2006, 01:25 PM
Just my two cents.

I don't believe in slimming products. If you want to slim down, go exercise and eat healthy.

However SNE works. It is a 'miracle' product, but for your entire family to consume SNE you will also need a miracle as in suddenly striking it rich. :rolleyes: One box of SNE is RM180. Recommended dosage is 2 - 4 capsules a day. There are 60 capsules in a box. Just imagine if a family has 5 persons and one person consumes a box each month, that would already be RM900 a month if you are taking the minimum recommended dosage. How many people/family can really afford it?

My kiddo has asthma and after taking it for a some time he is better. He is able to sleep the whole night and doesn't have difficulty breathing and my mom's high blood pressure is controlled. So I have seen it work. I would recommend it for those who can afford it.

Those who are taking vitamin E capsules please do ensure that the one you are taking has altogether 8 types of vitamin E. If not long term consumption of only 1 - 2 types may result in cancer instead. (I read it in a medical journal some where and also I believe an article about this was in the star paper a few days ago.)

I know I am out of topic but before I go, the enzymes in your food is 'killed' when it touches salt so for those who can stand to eat like a cow :D (just munching on plain, raw vegetable) you should be healthy enough not to rely too much on supplements. Or you can just get a juicer and blend yourself a glass of vegetable + fruit juice every morning without adding any salt or sugar.


Yes it may hurt when all need slimming package. But do they really need all at a time? even if yes, can priortise the consuming habit.

Recommended is 2-4, but depends on individuals la.... can also take 1 a day ma....then not so costly lor.... Juices can be costly too wor.... fresh one perhaps has to be visiting the freshmarkets often...hmmmmm whatever it is, i'm sure there's a will there's a way.

that's my 2cts.

AllUrban
29-10-2006, 05:54 PM
Conclusion....SNE does help but nothing beats good old healthy eating habit and daily exercise. And to be able to slim down is nothing, being able to maintain is everything.Sigh....a bit of a costly lesson, if you ask me :p

Any doctor or nutritionist would tell you the same thing .... and it wouldnt cost you anything.

Cheers, m

firefox
29-10-2006, 06:09 PM
Just my two cents.

I don't believe in slimming products. If you want to slim down, go exercise and eat healthy.




Most overweight ppl dont want to hear this...its the best and the safest.

mon
29-10-2006, 06:15 PM
I don't believe in slimming products. If you want to slim down, go exercise and eat healthy.

Most overweight ppl dont want to hear this...its the best and the safest.

And still remains as the only effective, long-term solution to losing weight and maintaining a healthy body and mind.

:)

FineTuned
29-10-2006, 08:56 PM
And still remains as the only effective, long-term solution to losing weight and maintaining a healthy body and mind.
:)
Anyone tried a Low Carb Diet?

I tried it over a period of 3 years some time ago, and it was quite effective as I lost weight and it stayed down. But friends kept thinking something was wrong with me because I was too thin (got cancer ah?). I even starting digging out my old school pants to wear!

Then I stopped because people said eating so much meat was bad for the liver. Now I'm back on a so called healthy diet with lots of veggy and fruits and I'm gaining weight day by day......

Sometimes you just can't win for losing.
:D