The haze is back

[ericchan]

The Federal Highway and the surroundings the visibility this morning was poor..is the haze back?

[jianwei85]

it seems likely as now it is looking hazy outside my house. guess it is time to take out my trusty mask. :eek:

[fRaNkY]

This morning 8am++ NPE can hardly see 10km :(

[madhu]

Monday there was a perfect blue sky in Cyberjaya. Today can't see jack. Very hazy.

[chowhouz]

Its 3.00pm now on Wed, the haze is bad in PJ-Sunway area. It smells bad too. All this smoke from Indonesia or is most of it our own burning too...?

[Sugarfree]

It's bad, bad, bad in Subang. Can even smell burning wood in the air. #@$%. We're being smoked into our house again by our 'brothers'. :(

[Ditto]

Just back from an errand, driving visibility is so bad that many turn on their headlights. Very smokey air, hardly can breath....have to cancel all evening plans, just stay home & turn the air-con on :(

[Sugarfree]

Seriously, what is the gomen gonna do about this? Nothing, that's what. Never even asked for an apology (from the culprits & we very well know who they are) all these years!! @#$%$#$%. :mad:

[Dr. J George]

And yet, we have idiots in this country holding important portfolios saying 'Tourist undeterred by Haze' ??????? :rolleyes:

[Raikonen]

Cannot be so rude...The culprits are orang sendiri... :mad:

[Atomic Fire]

It's strange that we dare to ask our neighbour (LKY) to apologise for a 'wrong' statement but on the other hand is so scared to ask our other neighbour who is 'killing us slowly' every year with this terrible haze to apologise. Where is the logic? Or are we trying to show that we are a really good neighbour who doesn't mind even if the actions of the other party can bring hazards to the health of our own citizens? :confused:

[bslee]

Sometimes I do equate those culprits being as offensive as drug traffickers, perhaps should be threatend with the same penalty and exposing enviromental hazard to ALL here and its been going on & on! The authorities are either deaf and its obviously doing NOTHING!.

[aRwEn]

*sigh* even in dmsara area oso veri hazy since mornin..... :(

[Sugarfree]

(eidted)The authorities are either deaf and its obviously doing NOTHING!.
They're doing nothing alright but if it were Spore that's the culprit, then we're certainly gonna need more than an apology from them. We'd demand compensation for the medical bills incurred, distress caused and lost of outdoor activity opportunities, amongst others! Ya, we gonna go there and kick their a**!! :D

[yvc]

It's strange that we dare to ask our neighbour (LKY) to apologise for a 'wrong' statement but on the other hand is so scared to ask our other neighbour who is 'killing us slowly' every year with this terrible haze to apologise. Where is the logic? Or are we trying to show that we are a really good neighbour who doesn't mind even if the actions of the other party can bring hazards to the health of our own citizens? :confused:

>>somemore that "other neighbour" tend to get their so call MYkad and PR more easily compared to those expatriate (those who decided to settle down here - these are professionals and educated people) or other foreigners married to our local people. what a system? sedih sedih ..... sampai bila lah jadi begini ...... :mad:

[vivacious]

my place worst!

[Brownsugar]

If the thunderstorm forecasted this weekend is in Indonesia then at least it will help more... But thunderstorm in Klang Valley will not help much... :( The haze is so bad... hopefully my baby will not get sick..

[AllUrban]

They're doing nothing alright but if it were Spore that's the culprit, then we're certainly gonna need more than an apology from them. We'd demand compensation for the medical bills incurred, distress caused and lost of outdoor activity opportunities, amongst others! Ya, we gonna go there and kick their a**!! :DWhat's Singapore doing about it? They are certainly facing the haze as well.

Cheers, m

[Sugarfree]

What's Singapore doing about it? They are certainly facing the haze as well.
Yeap, mate, they certainly are facing it as well.

What I had meant was, if Spore were the culprits instead of you-know-who, then we'd be making a helluva noise to get them to stop, including - yes, you got that right - asking for an apology :D . But as it is, the powers-that-be are so relaxed about it...it is as if it's the right thing for our neighbours to do!! :(

[honeybee]

I remember there were talks that M'sian owned plantations were among those doing open burning in our neighbouring country...

[Infernal Angel]

Yeap, mate, they certainly are facing it as well.

What I had meant was, if Spore were the culprits instead of you-know-who, then we'd be making a helluva noise to get them to stop, including - yes, you got that right - asking for an apology :D . But as it is, the powers-that-be are so relaxed about it...it is as if it's the right thing for our neighbours to do!! :(

You are right. If I remember correctly, we even sent fire-fighters and money to curb these fires in previous years! If LKY were to light his mosquito coil in his patio, a demand would be made for him to apologize for polluting our air.

[CoryFan]

ummm,

may be u can talk to the mother nature - wind about this and not the neighbour country.

btw, what is wrong if u mentioned which country that is???? :confused: :confused:

[AllUrban]

Yeap, mate, they certainly are facing it as well.

What I had meant was, if Spore were the culprits instead of you-know-who, then we'd be making a helluva noise to get them to stop, including - yes, you got that right - asking for an apology :D . But as it is, the powers-that-be are so relaxed about it...it is as if it's the right thing for our neighbours to do!! :(I know, I know

I just wonder why the two "victims" arent joining together to deal with this problem...between the two of them they have to have some political and economic clout.

the worst haze was in 97, correct? Methinks that doctors might be monitoring increased rates of respiratory ailments since then....I mean, this stuff could be really making us sick and we dont know about it...

I remember the environment ministry in my home province of Ontario, Canada saying that air pollution kills 1, 500 people prematurely in the province every year.

And, in Ontario they dont have to deal with haze, black diesel smoke, palm oil plantations, open burning, or 2stroke motorcycle engines. Id worry about how many Malaysians are dying prematurely because of air pollution?

I worry that I might die prematurely because of air pollution...I dont have a car, I walk alot...heck, with the haze as it has been, I might even get hit by a car because of the low visibility :p

Cheers, m

[EricK]

Anyone know of any website that keeps tracks of the API readings for Peninsular Malaysia specifically KL? i tried the DOE website at www.doe.gov.my but i cant find it..

[redsun0131]

And yet, we have idiots in this country holding important portfolios saying 'Tourist undeterred by Haze' ??????? :rolleyes:

We have idiots running this country ... ? gee... blind me ...

We wanted to send 1000 to Lebanon (later 300) but we can't send ONE man to Kalimantan ... - truely this country ran by a bunch of idiots !!!



To all Happy breathing ... and why are we complaining about cigarette smokers?

Yours Truly,
redface, redeyes, ... redsun0131 (I can't shine through the haze ...)

[bslee]

We have idiots running this country ... ? gee... blind me ...


IMHO, There never was any clear indication to the rakyat about solving the root of haze problem, only crisis management plans and talk cock most of the time. I reckon haze is going to be a annual or bi-annual affair in future.
Heck!, they can't even get their priorities and waste management right, which contributes to our country far from being progressive as our neighbors.
I can only wonder what lessons if any from past year's haze are they learning?..

This is no joke folks!..I HATE THE HAZE!..its making me DAMN SICK!. :mad:

[wira wan]

Why the Menteri "I can't make the decision to ask the schools to close, because of the haze. That decision belongs to the headmasters" and his Ox educated deputy call their Indon friends to "Minta maaf" for "killing us softly with their haze". The new theme song for VM 2007, whereby the tourists can to swim around Shah Alam TTDI "the world largest man made swimming pool", view world class multiple billboards per square km in PJ, and the wonderful seasonal view and fresh smell of haze around Malaysia. :D :D :D

[myfogo]

And yet, we have idiots in this country holding important portfolios saying 'Tourist undeterred by Haze' ??????? :rolleyes:

Money is more important than Malaysia's people life!!! :mad:

This idiots really thought that the tourist are BLIND!!! :eek:

[kevin23]

Wow,the haze is terrible.Even at this hour of the night the the air is choking.I getting a bad sorethroat because of this.

[Sugarfree]

but wait, wait. weather man says fri till mon there'll be storms...heck, flooding, too, in many places. :eek: ah well...we'll see. 1st time the weather boys are so aggressive...usually, they'd only comment on a storm after it's happened...will see, will see...

[Sugarfree]

This report sure sends a chill down one's spine. Our neighours are killing us and we're not even asking for a #@$#%&* apology!! (trying to be sacastic & funny). Below is part of the report. For the full report, go here:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061005/ap_on_he_me/who_air_pollution

MANILA, Philippines - The World Health Organization on Thursday called on governments to improve air quality in their cities, saying air pollution prematurely kills two million people a year, with more than half the deaths in developing countries.

[fRaNkY]

Its pretty funny that last night news says East Malaysia kena pretty bad than us in West Malaysia when the smog/haze have to past thru from Sumatera to East Malaysia via West Malaysia.... weird....

From Jalan Pantai Bahru tall building, I cannot see Mid Valley... alamak! :(

[fRaNkY]

Sometimes I do equate those culprits being as offensive as drug traffickers, perhaps should be threatend with the same penalty and exposing enviromental hazard to ALL here and its been going on & on! The authorities are either deaf and its obviously doing NOTHING!.

Drugs, you kill a few people.

Haze, you kill Many Many people.... slowly :eek:

[bslee]

Drugs, you kill a few people.
Haze, you kill Many Many people.... slowly :eek:

Alas, Natural Resources and Environment Minister Datuk Seri Azmi Khalid does admit nothing can be done to prevent this hazard.

Link here : http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2006/10/6/nation/15646454&sec=nation

:mad: :mad: :mad:

[ericchan]

i think we are stuck with the haze, dont know for how long more..today its extra hazy and humid..and the air smells awfull. Hope it will rain soon.

[Jason Lim]

but wait, wait. weather man says fri till mon there'll be storms...heck, flooding, too, in many places. :eek: ah well...we'll see. 1st time the weather boys are so aggressive...usually, they'd only comment on a storm after it's happened...will see, will see...

Believe me. when the weather men say storms, flood, expect heavy rain .... it will be the opposite. This goes to show how accurate they are :(

[redsun0131]

Alas, Natural Resources and Environment Minister Datuk Seri Azmi Khalid does admit nothing can be done to prevent this hazard.

Link here : http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2006/10/6/nation/15646454&sec=nation

:mad: :mad: :mad:

His (Azmi) remarks is a foolish remarks he and many others including "bapa penyakit ayam". As a leader one should foresee and act like a leader in planning, monitoring situation. This is not about one week occurrence it has been, when I first know smog back in 1993 and he took over the post not yesterday or last month. What a leader ... ?

If he and the Indon were to place forest rangers at high altitutde along the border line this thing would have not been seasonal.

At this time of writing from my place looking over to Cyberjaya/Putrajaya I wonder have "they" gone back home or are they working today.

Hey, pal ... I hardly see 1Km away !!!. Goodness gracious ....

[Sugarfree]

Interesting post by Golden Voice himself, Patrick Teoh, in his blog. For the complete story, go here:

http://patrickteoh.blogspot.com

(edited)
The haze has been our scourge for many years now. And each time it comes around we say that it comes from forest fires burning in a neighbouring country (we don’t mention names because we are polite people). Our elected reps go out to the media and make statements to inform us of how many “hot spots” there are in that neighbouring country....Bottom line. Nothing definite is ever achieved.

But on the other hand…

Some senile politician from another neighbouring country makes some dumb-ass statement about Malaysian Chinese being marginalised and the whole Putrajaya goes ape ****. Apologies are demanded. The Prime Minister writes a stern letter of admonishment. The Foreign Minister calls for blood. The aging Youth flers probably waved some menacing keris-es around.

[ericchan]

The rain might have not come lashing as wrongly predicited by some weather men but at least the haze as disappered some what...hope it continues to improve.

[Raikonen]

Very typical of bolehland politicians....It just strengthens LKY statement when u see the difference in response to SPore and Indonesia in these two instances...Haze since 1997 and they have whatever haza action plan, committees...For what? lawatan and discussions sambil melancong?

[USJ27Resident]

It drizzle early this morning... and walla, a welcome respite to the hazy conditions ala Genting in USJ.

Can actually see some blue sky worr.... :p

[vivacious]

its a mirracle the haze is gone!! must been the rain last night was a heavy one.

[firefox]

Hip hip hurray now i can come out and play :p

[bslee]

I reckon the government now knows Malaysians are indeed FED-UP!..so?
Now, we have our friend DPM pushing for Asean Haze Fund?..for what?..fight the forest fires when we're all starting to choke one or 2 times annually?. This only means they are helpless and are not able to address the root cause..that is..the forest or estate burning CULPRITS themselves and that includes the Indon govenment themselves as guilty as hell!
What more can I say?..I've spoken my mind!. :mad:

[mimosa]

Blue skies today, yippee.

Managed to catch last minutes of sunset just now.

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l112/mimosa101/CIMG0015a.jpg

[palmdoc]

The link is supposed to be:
http://www.jas.sains.my/jas/default.html
but as it's very slow to load......................

[vivacious]

thats beautiful. HOpefullly u can catch a glimps more of that .

[TiNKeRFY]

actually, we have beautiful sunsets almost everyday..
its just that when we have a lot of it, we don't really notice it, but when we lost it due to haze, we would kill for it...
hehehe

[USJ27Resident]

The link is supposed to be:
http://www.jas.sains.my/jas/default.html
but as it's very slow to load......................

hahaa.... the website?? or the JAS officials... :D

[ericchan]

Today its been a horrible day haze and the heat has been killing :(

[evecyanide]

Yeah, the haze is really bad today. I haven't been wheezing for quite sometime now (asthma lah) but this morning, I had to dig out my inhaler. Having difficulty in breathing liao :(

[USJ27Resident]

Yeah, the haze is really bad today. I haven't been wheezing for quite sometime now (asthma lah) but this morning, I had to dig out my inhaler. Having difficulty in breathing liao :(
Hahaa... ok, asthma... not the bf... :p


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HEPAIRE Ac-500HR Air Purifier for RM780 (Retail Price RM975).
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By the way, the price IS lower than the example above. Please note, I have no commercial interest in this company or its product. Just wanna share the info to those that want to have ...

Peace.

[ericchan]

The haze situation has become worse i can hardly see that tall buliding anymore..why is the Government not providing us with up to date API readings?

[VeeJay]

The latest APi is here....but not sure how accurate it is?! looking from the naked eye, it doesnt reflect the same numbers from the website?!

http://www.doe.gov.my/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1201&Itemid=370&lang=en

For previous readings..
http://www.doe.gov.my/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=818&Itemid=370&lang=en

[monster]

Today's haze seems to be getting worse. Was in Selayang, Kepong, 1-Utama, SS2 and Pj New Town.

Dunno what's the API reading like but visually looks like the haze is the worse so far this year! :(

Take the necessary precautions folks.

[Sato]

Hahaa... ok, asthma... not the bf... :p


Ok all - I picked up 2 HepaAire filters ( hepa mesh & carbon ) with built in Ionisers, cheap and VERY reliable. Works like a dream... Anyone wants - PM me please. they still have a few more... been selling like hotcakes since this haze thingy came back...


By the way, the price IS lower than the example above. Please note, I have no commercial interest in this company or its product. Just wanna share the info to those that want to have ...

Peace.

I am using Sharp Plasmacluster and Electrolux Air Cleaner,both work wonder also. :)

[firefox]

its a clear day and sunny skies are back

[SingaporeEhSai!]

its a clear day and sunny skies are back

yes mates, today look so strange, the skies and buildings look so sharp and clear....in spore...

[monster]

no haze for past few days... could be due to the long Hari Raya holidays here and the neighbouring country....
give it a week or two and if still no haze can declare the "haze season" over....

till the next haze season next year.... Happy Clear Skies