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pcyeoh
01-09-2006, 01:39 AM
I think some people who shop at Mydin are getting a bit too much. This afternoon while coming out of Summit I was crawling towards the traffic lights when I noticed two Ah Ees taking out their Mydin shopping bags out from the Giant shopping cart!!! Goodness gracious me. These 2 middle aged ladies must have parked at the road side between Giant and Summit to go to Mydin to avoid paying the RM 10 parking charge. They must have gone on a shopping spree at Mydin and as they walked through the Giant car park, they conveniently used the shopping cart left behind at the Giant carpark and used it to carry their purchases up to the side gate next to Summit. One of these days, the giant will roar and beat the shiit out of Mydin as they can only take only so much. What the two ladies have done sudah jadi lebih. What will the Mydians think of next? Sorry, I didn't bring my digital camera or else I would have posted the photos here and it was a sight to see.

Sentinel
01-09-2006, 03:01 AM
I think some people who shop at Mydin are getting a bit too much. This afternoon while coming out of Summit I was crawling towards the traffic lights when I noticed two Ah Ees taking out their Mydin shopping bags out from the Giant shopping cart!!! Goodness gracious me. These 2 middle aged ladies must have parked at the road side between Giant and Summit to go to Mydin to avoid paying the RM 10 parking charge. They must have gone on a shopping spree at Mydin and as they walked through the Giant car park, they conveniently used the shopping cart left behind at the Giant carpark and used it to carry their purchases up to the side gate next to Summit. One of these days, the giant will roar and beat the shiit out of Mydin as they can only take only so much. What the two ladies have done sudah jadi lebih. What will the Mydians think of next? Sorry, I didn't bring my digital camera or else I would have posted the photos here and it was a sight to see.

Practise what you preach and mind your own business. Why are you bothered where the two ladies park their car or if they even try to avoid paying the parking fee? It is none of your business really. Why do you care if they have Mydin shopping bags in Giant trolleys, or even vice versa?

And what gives you the right to use your digital on two lady shoppers on their day out shopping, and publish it here for all to see? You just blardy preached about intruding into people's privacy and here you are doing this low-down thing?

Please go examine your own character before criticising other peoples' behaviour. It is easy to point your fingers at others but unless one has no weakness of his own, its okay. In your case, you cannot even blardy observe your own advice, go take a walk.

Nic_of_Time
01-09-2006, 09:18 AM
Please go examine your own character before criticising other peoples' behaviour. It is easy to point your fingers at others but unless one has no weakness of his own, its okay. In your case, you cannot even blardy observe your own advice, go take a walk.Take it easy lah, Sentinel. Maybe it is due to the lack of sleep after the celebration. If you find it unpalatable, you should pm the moderator and express your views and let the moderator decide.

I think PCYeoh have done a good job reporting the facts of the situation and giving his comments. Nothing wrong or 'overboard' about that. If we are to abide with your expectation we would NOT be able to express any views on activities or events other than fictions and other talk c..ks.

I always find PCYeoh photos very informative, as they said a picture is worth a thousand words. However i agree if we focus on any person(s) in such situations, it would be ethical to cover or blurr their faces.

Keep up the good work, PC.

Sugarfree
01-09-2006, 09:29 AM
(edited)...as they said a picture is worth a thousand words. However, I agree if we focus on any person(s) in such situations, it would be ethical to cover or blurr their faces.
Unless the photos is of those Giant girls, then no "blurring" please! :D Hey, the weekend is almost here, so thought I lightened things up a bit. Yeeeeaah! ;)

Nic_of_Time
01-09-2006, 12:38 PM
Unless the photos is of those Giant girls, then no "blurring" please! Hey, the weekend is almost here, so thought I lightened things up a bit. Yeeeeaah! Hey.. if giant b... , i also want to see...

Seriously, i read there are possible legal implications if we publish photos of another person anywhere without their permission, especially if it unfavourable. That is why they have such things is 'model released' conditions.
There could be exemptions like a mass of people in a crowd, etc. I am not too sure, but better be on the safe side.

Sentinel
01-09-2006, 12:52 PM
Take it easy lah, Sentinel. Maybe it is due to the lack of sleep after the celebration. If you find it unpalatable, you should pm the moderator and express your views and let the moderator decide.

I think PCYeoh have done a good job reporting the facts of the situation and giving his comments. Nothing wrong or 'overboard' about that. If we are to abide with your expectation we would NOT be able to express any views on activities or events other than fictions and other talk c..ks.

I always find PCYeoh photos very informative, as they said a picture is worth a thousand words. However i agree if we focus on any person(s) in such situations, it would be ethical to cover or blurr their faces.

Keep up the good work, PC.

Listen to me, please. Advise your friend PCYeoh exactly what you have written to me. If he doesn't like what is written, ask him to PM the moderator but no need to come in here and talk down to people. Please do not offer this advice to me because I didn't start this! It was your friend PCYeoh.

Just because you like him and his photos doesn't mean I have to stop writing the way I want to just to satisfy him... and now you.

Appreciate your views but please, unless you are fairhanded and not asking only one party to be fair, stay out.

Sentinel
01-09-2006, 12:55 PM
I think PCYeoh have done a good job reporting the facts of the situation and giving his comments. Nothing wrong or 'overboard' about that. If we are to abide with your expectation we would NOT be able to express any views on activities or events other than fictions and other talk c..ks.

This was exactly what he should learn himself, nic_of_time. I was writing on a housing renovation and he stopped me in my tracks. Here, you are contradicting......



Keep up the good work, PC.

It is obvious you are already taking sides without knowing the full extent of the issues.

Nic_of_Time
01-09-2006, 01:48 PM
It is obvious you are already taking sides without knowing the full extent of the issues.At the point in writing i was refering to matters in this thread. I do not read all threads.
There should not be any exceptions, it would be more harmonious if posters do not issue personal condemnation of each other's view directly.
If you think someone in going 'overboard' on any issue then one should pm the person privately for restraint or/and to inform the moderator.
I won't get involve in this matter further and i suggest you make whatever complains to the moderator.

eileenc
01-09-2006, 02:03 PM
Sorry, I didn't bring my digital camera or else I would have posted the photos here and it was a sight to see.

I think Sentinel is unfair to jump the gun and "berate" PC YEoh for his comments. Talk about getting worked up over poor understanding ....I suspect your harsh tone is opportunistic and highly personal-sounding. All the postings so far are just comments -- like it or not, it makes interesting reading. Civility is a treasured trait but even if I had wished to be critical, I would have made sure I grasped the content well.

If you had read PC Yeoh's text carefully and understood it (perhaps u got bad english eh? I am certain it isn't my poor comprehension!), you would have noted that his last sentence said that he did not have the photos to illustrate his anecdote. In any case, I am sure he would have been intelligent enuf to cover the tell-tale aspects and blur the features of the 2 aunties.

Anyway, folks, what's the fuss over the 2 hypermarts. Don't like it don't go there. Period. If curiosity is your middle name, then go join the merry jam and human traffic and don't complain, etc.

Sentinel
01-09-2006, 03:30 PM
At the point in writing i was refering to matters in this thread. I do not read all threads. There should not be any exceptions, it would be more harmonious if posters do not issue personal condemnation of each other's view directly.

Having said what you have just written, don't you think making personal opinions like yours known and taking side even before you know the full story does not add to this harmony of this forum that you so desire? C'mon man, walk the talk....

Sentinel
01-09-2006, 03:34 PM
I think Sentinel is unfair to jump the gun and "berate" PC YEoh for his comments. Talk about getting worked up over poor understanding ....I suspect your harsh tone is opportunistic and highly personal-sounding. All the postings so far are just comments -- like it or not, it makes interesting reading. Civility is a treasured trait but even if I had wished to be critical, I would have made sure I grasped the content well.

Good. Then I suggest you grasp the whole matter well first before berating me.


If you had read PC Yeoh's text carefully and understood it (perhaps u got bad english eh? I am certain it isn't my poor comprehension!), you would have noted that his last sentence said that he did not have the photos to illustrate his anecdote. In any case, I am sure he would have been intelligent enuf to cover the tell-tale aspects and blur the features of the 2 aunties.

You're right, I have bad English and it isn't your poor comprehension either. These assumptions you have just made said it all, need I add more?

Nic_of_Time
01-09-2006, 03:58 PM
Having said what you have just written, don't you think making personal opinions like yours known and taking side even before you know the full story does not add to this harmony of this forum that you so desire? C'mon man, walk the talk....Eh.. relax lah.. sentinel.
I have no inkling what transpired earlier that is why i had innocently asked you to take it easy.. lighten with that drinking joke... and did not condemn you at all, and commented on the work that PC had done based on known facts in this thread. Read my original post again.

I understand issues unfortunately can sometime get emotional, but one should not 'infect' it all over the board to other innocent threads. In this circumstances it is best you take a short break to let your nerves settle down first and resolve any unhappiness you have with the moderator.

Aiyaaa.. here we are trying to discuss about some giantic price wars.. let's try and forget about wars between our own members. Give and take lah..

Sentinel
01-09-2006, 05:07 PM
Eh.. relax lah.. sentinel.
I have no inkling what transpired earlier that is why i had innocently asked you to take it easy.. lighten with that drinking joke... and did not condemn you at all, and commented on the work that PC had done based on known facts in this thread. Read my original post again.

Why should I relax or be asked to relax when someone else come and behave "holier than thou" and talk down to me? Why ask me to lighten up, why not ask the perpetrator to lighten up? By commenting on good work done by PCYeoh and encouraging him on, at the same time asking me to relax, was in my opinion playing sides. If you want to advise, advise at least both sides. Don't play favorites here and then try and tell me all kinds of bull excuses.


I understand issues unfortunately can sometime get emotional, but one should not 'infect' it all over the board to other innocent threads. In this circumstances it is best you take a short break to let your nerves settle down first and resolve any unhappiness you have with the moderator.

Why are you accusing me instead of infecting the whole forum with what I did when it was someone else who came and try to bully his way through? Why am I the one you are asking to take a short break and cool down? Why point the finger at me?

This is exactly what I have been trying to point out to you, why are you faulting ME for everything? Don't try to play favorites here my friend, it is so damn obvious. I don't need someone else to come and lecture me on how to behave when I have been insulted by another.

GreenBug
04-09-2006, 12:18 AM
For some silly reason, these 2 fells seemed to have gotten off the wrong side of bed yesterday and slugged it out on the threads 'renovation' and 'Giant vs Mydin'. It appears that PC pricked Sentinel wrongly and Sentinel let off his steam. By the way, Sentinel could have broken all the rules in our book ... name-calling, foul language, .... you name it, he did it. PC was't helping by fanning the fires.

So how? Send them for a holiday for a few days. I guess 3 days should quell their fires? I am also consolidating their bashings into a moderation thread so that both threads are cleaned of all these silliness.

Well Chang, it wasn't a fair thing to do, it wasn't the right thing to do either. I am sure you know this was not the first time he has done this to me or to others. Will banning Sentinel (which is also my other nick) resolve the issues with PCYeoh? I don't think so, not from what he has written in the PMs to me and the way he wrote it. This bugger has crossed the line, became very personal and seriously this issue is bigger than just banning us for a few days. It is a personal problem now, he has made it to be, and I want to settle it with him personally, anyway he like it.... he chooses the method and I will be in front of him in a jif. Some people think they can challenge and bully and get away with it, well this time he has got the wrong chap.

Oldman
04-09-2006, 07:39 AM
THis oldman really 'cannot tahan' Oredi... :mad:
If this guy really wanted to help, he should direct or advice the mamber go to the authority to get his doubts clearify... Not asking him to find out how others can run the 'Loop holes' as what he had stated.
AS for his personal cases with Toyota and stand chart, why don't he go to the ministery of trade and bank Negara to complaint instead of barking in the forum ??
he should be ban forever... :mad:

GreenBug
04-09-2006, 09:21 AM
THis oldman really 'cannot tahan' Oredi... :mad:
If this guy really wanted to help, he should direct or advice the mamber go to the authority to get his doubts clearify... Not asking him to find out how others can run the 'Loop holes' as what he had stated.
AS for his personal cases with Toyota and stand chart, why don't he go to the ministery of trade and bank Negara to complaint instead of barking in the forum ??
he should be ban forever... :mad:

Oldman.... Kawan Baru.... 2nd Posting.... Same IP Address as (.....) why post in this thread when there are hundreds of other more interesting threads? Busy body also don't be so obvious lah.... want to pour fuel onto fire and get me permanently banned, what do you really gain from it? Why do we have people like you within our USJ community ah? :eek:

Oldman
04-09-2006, 09:52 AM
CYBER GANGSTERISM ?? :mad: :mad: :mad:

GreenBug
04-09-2006, 10:51 AM
CYBER GANGSTERISM ?? :mad: :mad: :mad:

Only you know..... only old men have the time too to play childish games.

patrick
04-09-2006, 02:16 PM
Can I appeal in my personal capacity as a friend to GreenBug, Oldman, PC and whatever other alter egos used, to stop this verbal battle right here, right now? .....PLEASE?

It hurts to see friends and neighbours on this Forum battling out whilst we have so many issues out there to resolve. The petty crimes, the robberies, the snatch thefts, the traffic congestions etc, etc. We need to stay close together. We need each other's wisdom. We need the bonding, the support and the strength to carry on battling the many issues to help improve the communty. The last we want to see is such divisive discontentment and barrage. In such battles, there is usually no winner. Only losers...the community.

So please, can I appeal for a truce and call on everyone involved to just stop here. Step back, take a real deep breath and go do something that will brighten up your day, and come back when you feel the anger has dissipated.
Ok?

Bless you all and take care. Rgds.

Nic_of_Time
04-09-2006, 02:53 PM
Can I appeal in my personal capacity as a friend to GreenBug, Oldman, PC and whatever other alter egos used, to stop this verbal battle right here, right now? .....PLEASE? Agree with you Patrick.

All posters should observe 2. Be Civil (http://www.usj.com.my/forum-rules.php3) of the Forum Rules. The moderator should enforce the violations according to Rule No. 2. regardless.

The moderator should identify all the violations todate by the posters involved in this related issue.
To resolve it, forget about taking action at present on any party. However, a reminder should be given to all the violators of Rule No. 2 on this issue.
Thereafter if any poster violate the rule again, he/she will be given a final warning. If the rule is violated again, the poster will be banned for 1 week. If there is another violation on the same issue, he/she will be banned for 1 month.

For this issue, i don't think we should banned any poster forever as Chang had mentioned, some of them just happened to wake up on the wrong side of the bed. However, if the poster is persistent in violating the rules, then the moderator should take more drastic actions.

Just my suggestions to resolve the issue for moderator to consider.

Pak Kadok
04-09-2006, 05:22 PM
Well Chang, it wasn't a fair thing to do, it wasn't the right thing to do either. I am sure you know this was not the first time he has done this to me or to others. Will banning Sentinel (which is also my other nick) resolve the issues with PCYeoh? I don't think so, not from what he has written in the PMs to me and the way he wrote it. This bugger has crossed the line, became very personal and seriously this issue is bigger than just banning us for a few days. It is a personal problem now, he has made it to be, and I want to settle it with him personally, anyway he like it.... he chooses the method and I will be in front of him in a jif. Some people think they can challenge and bully and get away with it, well this time he has got the wrong chap.

Saudara Greenbug, if you intend to aim a few durians at the faces of these blokes, don't forget to pass a few good Raja Kunyit ones to me....

As for prices, not all the items are priced cheaply at all the 3 hypermarkets in Subang.

Just buy from those who offer the best prices. Last week, sotong was RM15.60 1 kg, Kerisi was RM9.50 1kg & TEnggiri cut was RM23 1 kg at Carrefour; at Giant it was RM9.00, RM4.50 & RM17 respectively.

But I discovered that Tenggiri cut at Mydin was only RM16 per kg today.

So, just buy from wherever that offers the best price.

kwchang
04-09-2006, 06:03 PM
Well Chang, it wasn't a fair thing to do, it wasn't the right thing to do either....
I do what I did according to the rules. By the rules, you have already broken a few .... please read what you wrote my friend. I also banned PCYeoh. Let the others decide if I was unfair to PCYeoh.


Will banning Sentinel (which is also my other nick) resolve the issues with PCYeoh? I don't think so, not from what he has written in the PMs to me and the way he wrote it....I do not ban to resolve issues .. I do it to give people time to cool off and to check current and potential violations of our rules. What PCYeoh wrote to you in PM is between you and him. You should not bring it to the Forum - we have a rule about that for the moderator not to bring out private problems (like in PM). If you were hurt by PC in his PM, it is beyond my knowledge as that is between you and him. I will not be able to moderate at that level.

kwchang
04-09-2006, 06:11 PM
Oldman.... Kawan Baru.... 2nd Posting.... Same IP Address as (.....)
Sorry, I checked...what IP was it similar to? As far as I could see, it does not tie in with anybodies' IP at the moment.

Of course, you would suspect it is PCYeoh in disguise. However, there is no proof. PC did call me to deny that he is Oldman. By the way, as I had always reminded members, I treat each nick as an individual. I do not have the time to check on multiple nicks. If OldMan wants to cause trouble, I will take care of him. Hence a warning to Oldman, please stop this 'moderation' on Sentinel. If you do it again, I will ban you. Fair warning.

As Patrick said, let us forget this nonsense. If this goes on, I will lengthen the ban the next time around for anyone harping on the same issue.

pcyeoh
05-09-2006, 09:00 AM
Well Chang, it wasn't a fair thing to do, it wasn't the right thing to do either. I am sure you know this was not the first time he has done this to me or to others. Will banning Sentinel (which is also my other nick) resolve the issues with PCYeoh? I don't think so, not from what he has written in the PMs to me and the way he wrote it.

I am sorry that I have to post this so called controversial PM I sent to Sentinel to resolve our quarrel. I think it is only fair that you read what I wrote as I was painted to have written a PM that made matter worse.



01-09-2006, 10:15 AM
pcyeoh
Budiman Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: USJ 12
Posts: 2,981

Let me call a unilateral truce for the sanity of the forum

What is actually wrong with u? I am trying 2 tell you that u shld not reveal the former XXXXX residence and also trying to insinuate whether he submit his renovation plan for approval or not. It gives the public impression that this high profile person cant be touch. I wont say whether I know him or not lest I be accused of throwing my weight around but I am telling u that what u hv just revealed in the forum about his residence thus putting him and his fly members esp his g/children at security risk. Trust me on this as I cant reveal whatever I know in the forum or 2 u via pm. And I dont mean 2 pick any quarrel with u and I dont understand why u are zooming on me for no reason at all except 2 criticise everything I hv 2 comment. With regards 2 my problem with another forumer, it has nothing 2 do with the forum. The misunderstanding was cleared up and my relationship with them is even better than before.

Thanks


He then replied to me brushing aside my olive leaf. I cannot post his PM to me as I respect his privacy (unless he himself wants to publish it here) and my reply to his PM is below and that was the end of the PMs between he and I. He then chose to resurrect his other nick GreenBug and continue with the issue until Patrick came on board to appeal for peace and that was what I have wanted when I first PM Sentinel.


01-09-2006, 05:15 PM
pcyeoh
Budiman Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: USJ 12
Posts: 2,981

Re: Let me call a unilateral truce for the sanity of the forum

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sentinel

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Quote:
Originally Posted by pcyeoh

So what do you suggest then?


During the ban, I went on a "cyber holiday" as I respected Chang's decision to ban me though I may not like it as I was unable to post some of the community news that I wanted to share. Meanwhile, I got numerous calls and SMS asking me whether I am "Oldman" and that was when I called Chang to assure him that I was not and requested him to do the needful. I then posed this question to him, "Can a forumer who is banned uses his other nickname to post on the same subject matter for which he is banned?" Here I am referring to the fact that the forumer has actually acknowledged that the two nicknames are referring to him. In my opinion, it is unethical and unfair as I could not have replied his accusation. By the time the ban is lifted, I have cooled down enough to totally ignore him and that was what Chang wanted when he instituted the ban. But I have to say my piece here for the last time.

GreenBug
05-09-2006, 05:33 PM
I am sorry that I have to post this so called controversial PM I sent to Sentinel to resolve our quarrel. I think it is only fair that you read what I wrote as I was painted to have written a PM that made matter worse.

He then replied to me brushing aside my olive leaf. I cannot post his PM to me as I respect his privacy (unless he himself wants to publish it here) and my reply to his PM is below and that was the end of the PMs between he and I. He then chose to resurrect his other nick GreenBug and continue with the issue until Patrick came on board to appeal for peace and that was what I have wanted when I first PM Sentinel.

During the ban, I went on a "cyber holiday" as I respected Chang's decision to ban me though I may not like it as I was unable to post some of the community news that I wanted to share. Meanwhile, I got numerous calls and SMS asking me whether I am "Oldman" and that was when I called Chang to assure him that I was not and requested him to do the needful. I then posed this question to him, "Can a forumer who is banned uses his other nickname to post on the same subject matter for which he is banned?" Here I am referring to the fact that the forumer has actually acknowledged that the two nicknames are referring to him. In my opinion, it is unethical and unfair as I could not have replied his accusation. By the time the ban is lifted, I have cooled down enough to totally ignore him and that was what Chang wanted when he instituted the ban. But I have to say my piece here for the last time.

Yes, you painted a good picture of yourself and at the same time questioning about me. PC Yeoh, you know very well this is not the first or only time you have done this to me or to others. For the sake of the other forumers' peace, I shall also refrain myself from saying more. Just like you need to say your piece, I shall also say mine.

You knew very well what you did and how you did it and you also knew why I blew my top. You have been working on me (Sentinel) for a while and you succeeded. Don't come in here and and try to lecture people on proper behaviour in the cyberspace etc, and make others look bad. I shall refrain myself for now but I am sure I will find my way to explain this to the rest in a TT session in your presence, this I have put down my bet!

tupai
06-09-2006, 01:02 AM
BY JOVE! holy molly mother of cows! I have met, sat, drank, pissed in same urinal with both of you...No truce needed...I know both of you personally...lets get3gather soon...my treat on yr choice of poison (u both know i take anything with any alcohol >4%)...lets put a face to a nick and be merry togather hic! :D

How? bila? me anytime one!


Yang Amat Berkawan sama lu lato tupai H.i.C (s.j & any where pom boleh)

Sentinel
06-09-2006, 06:07 PM
BY JOVE! holy molly mother of cows! I have met, sat, drank, pissed in same urinal with both of you...No truce needed...I know both of you personally...lets get3gather soon...my treat on yr choice of poison (u both know i take anything with any alcohol >4%)...lets put a face to a nick and be merry togather hic! :D

How? bila? me anytime one!

Thanks for the offer Tupai but I do not drink with people who bodek VIPS, talk down on others and then try to paint a good picture of himself. I am afraid I also cannot refrain myself physically with such hypocrites so its best I stay away. Yes, I am still pissed and I'm sure you also know by now its better I drink by myself.

JayKay
19-09-2006, 01:04 PM
I am new member of this forum and this is my first posting. When I join this forum I thought I could engage in an intelligient discussion pertaining to matters of mutual interest in Subang Jaya. What I see now is verbal diarrhoea of personal attacts.

I think the moderator should demand on certain standard on this forum and focus the discussion on issues rather than personal attacts. Handle the ball and not the player!.

Please remember that the discussion or rather the circus that taking place in this forum is accessed to public. One could easily paint a picture of the kind of people living in our beloved town by just going through the drama that takes place here.

I am shocked to see members can go so low to the extend of calling names, insulting and making fun of their English.

It truly portrays a bad image of ourselves.

Regards

Satine
06-10-2006, 11:49 PM
hey guys... incase u stop in the traffic light near to giant.. take a look at the bilboard of Giant.. U'll see somehting funny of the advertising/commercial ads on the bilboard..

well.. its about this staffs from Mydin (they wear Mydin printed T-shirt) and buying sumthin @ Giant..) as u can see lots of Mydin's staff q-up under a big sign of Giant and buying some food..

I had a great laugh seeing that.. :P

Will try post up a photo take i took.. hehehe

birdy
07-10-2006, 07:54 AM
hey guys... incase u stop in the traffic light near to giant.. take a look at the bilboard of Giant.. U'll see somehting funny of the advertising/commercial ads on the bilboard..

well.. its about this staffs from Mydin (they wear Mydin printed T-shirt) and buying sumthin @ Giant..) as u can see lots of Mydin's staff q-up under a big sign of Giant and buying some food..

I had a great laugh seeing that.. :P

Will try post up a photo take i took.. hehehe
Guess u r still new....u hv posted wrongly ... this extracted is under disciplinary inquiry. There is a post on Giant vs MyDin in the USJ Subang Jaya Web Forum..go and search for it. :cool:

And as for the picture, someone has actually taken and posted there too....u r a bit late...but better be late than never....thanks for bringing this joke back again.. :D