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ava
28-08-2006, 12:57 PM
Does any one know how long it will take to renew the permit of a maid. Heard from someone that it requires at least 3 months. My maid permit is expired in 2 months time. Is it still enough time? What type of fine I will get if the process take longer than 2 months?

jakpo
28-08-2006, 01:21 PM
it's quite simple and fast actually.
1. Go to fomema - register, choose doctor and pay.
2. Go to see the doctor.
3. About 7 or 8 days - get result from fomema. Can call or check online... no need to go there.
4. If result fomema okay, go to imigration, renew visa.

all in all, around 10 days.

-jakpo

willi
28-08-2006, 01:45 PM
On top of procedure posted by jakpo, you will also need to check the validity of the maid's passport.
Usually, it is valid for 2 years. Therefore, if you are extending the maid for the 3rd year, you would have to renew her passport first. And the renewal takes more than a month.
But, if the passport is still valid, just follow the procedure above. On Malaysian part, it is rather fast actually :) , but not on their Embassy side.
Can vomit blood ......... :mad:

jakpo
28-08-2006, 02:53 PM
i have experience applying NEW passport for my maid which was stolen... (together with my car... ). whole process took about a month.

-jakpo

charis14
28-08-2006, 04:53 PM
4. If result fomema okay, go to imigration, renew visa.-jakpoIf not okay, be prepared for another 4 to 6 weeks - AFTER you submit reports from specialist and appeal document. To avoid being late, Fomema recommends that we start the process approx 3 months beforehand.

makeupgirl
16-06-2008, 10:40 AM
Hi all,
Following Jakpo steps, I know the bank draft to bring for paying Fomema is RM190 (female). Would like to know how much is the bank draft amount I need to bring to imigration office to pay for the visa??

ginaphan
16-06-2008, 10:48 AM
Indonesian passport renewal - both the maid AND the employer has to go. Queue up early in the morning over there.

chin_wan
16-06-2008, 10:52 AM
This applies for all countries or just Indonesia? My housekeeper is from the Philippines.

ginaphan
16-06-2008, 11:34 AM
don't know about Phillipines. Their embassy would work differently from Indonesian's.

daniella
16-06-2008, 11:49 AM
Just checked with the Indon embassy cos, mine is up.
It only takes 3 hours to renew an Indon passport now...so within a day u will get it but be prepared to spend at least from 9am till 3 pm there lah. Used to take a 3 weeks to a month to get a new passport out.

The cost of the passport is only RM22 for a 3 year passport, but any agency will charge you RM 300 to 400 for the whole procedure :eek:

As for the work permit renewal at our immigration, its pretty quick...less than an hour, you can do it at Shah Alam Immigration Office at PKNS bldg. And if you are renewing your maids` visa at the end of 3rd year, you do not need to send her for medical...so you save on Fomema...
Check out the Fomema website or call 03- 2094 6188 :)

bzjude
16-06-2008, 12:05 PM
Hi all,
Following Jakpo steps, I know the bank draft to bring for paying Fomema is RM190 (female). Would like to know how much is the bank draft amount I need to bring to imigration office to pay for the visa??

RM 445 made out to Ketua Pengarah Imigresen. So actually the whole process takes about 2 weeks. I did mine in 1 week cos forgot deadline so asked doctor to hurry at QHC. Tip- choose a doctor who has both the medical and xray facilities. Save time, no need to run to 2 places. ;)

makeupgirl
16-06-2008, 12:08 PM
Thanks for all the info everyone :)

One more question, if the maid do not want to renew, we need to apply for a 'leaving letter' from immigration to give to the airport boarding guard, and no payment incurred, right? :confused:

bzjude
16-06-2008, 12:15 PM
You're most welcome! BTW, you can print form online from Fomema website. So you can fill it up, choose doctor from information online (note address-then it'll be the same clinic, some doctors use different clinic names..maybe Fomema requirement etc), then submit straightaway there..no need to waste time. I go to the PKNS Shah Alam. Fomema-Level 3. Imigresen-Level 2. Cheers! :p

bzjude
16-06-2008, 12:23 PM
Thanks for all the info everyone :)

One more question, if the maid do not want to renew, we need to apply for a 'leaving letter' from immigration to give to the airport boarding guard, and no payment incurred, right? :confused:

The last time I sent my maid back after 1.5 yrs. I got the agency to do it as it's still within the 2 yrs contract. I think gotta buy airfare as well as get the working visa cancelled. Can't remember which is first. I didnt have to pay anything. It's very important to cancel the visa to ensure you could hire another maid later on. Best to call Imigresen and/or agency to consult.

coleslaw
16-06-2008, 12:26 PM
Thanks for all the info everyone :)

One more question, if the maid do not want to renew, we need to apply for a 'leaving letter' from immigration to give to the airport boarding guard, and no payment incurred, right? :confused:
book her flight first. then with the details, go to immigration and cancelled her permit. you'll be given some documents for the maid to surrender to immigrations when she exit. all foc.
make sure you do this. my mother in law tried cancelling her maid's permit AFTER the maid has left. the runaround is not worth it. gotta go make police report and such...and on top of losing the deposit, gotta pay a fine as well..guess who has to do la! :D

coleslaw
16-06-2008, 12:28 PM
Indonesian passport renewal - both the maid AND the employer has to go. Queue up early in the morning over there.
employer need not go. my maid always go on her own!

coleslaw
16-06-2008, 12:29 PM
RM 445 made out to Ketua Pengarah Imigresen. you are allowed cash payment now.

ginaphan
16-06-2008, 02:05 PM
employer need not go. my maid always go on her own!

Apparently, it's a pretty new policy. My sister's maid just renewed her passport a few weeks ago. Anyway, that's what the agents are telling us. Perhaps, your maid has found a way around it.

makeupgirl
16-06-2008, 05:27 PM
employer need not go. my maid always go on her own!

Wow, what an obedient maid. I think many will be afraid they run away liao... :p

bzjude
16-06-2008, 05:39 PM
you are allowed cash payment now.

Aiya! Now only I know. Could have saved me the trouble to buy bank draft and the RM5 commission. :eek: Thought govt. mah, so usual procedure.
Know anything about the process to bring back a maid from Indonesia to work without incurring agency fee? :p

clfoo
16-06-2008, 11:50 PM
You're most welcome! BTW, you can print form online from Fomema website. So you can fill it up, choose doctor from information online (note address-then it'll be the same clinic, some doctors use different clinic names..maybe Fomema requirement etc), then submit straightaway there..no need to waste time. I go to the PKNS Shah Alam. Fomema-Level 3. Imigresen-Level 2. Cheers! :p
they can easily make the whole process online and save cost and hustle, why still need to waste resources :confused:


Aiya! Now only I know. Could have saved me the trouble to buy bank draft and the RM5 commission. Thought govt. mah, so usual procedure.

RM 445 made out to Ketua Pengarah Imigresen.
This is another brainless procedure that they dun need to wait for PEMUDAH to improve the process, why don't they just accept credit card? How the inexperience ppl would know how much exactly they need to pay at first and pay to who, and when they reach for example puterajaya to renew without a draft then ooops no bank nearby then make a run around ..?


Question for the experience renewal out there, if the maid passport going to expire next year, am i allow to renew the permit this year while waiting to renew the passport next year ?

USJ27Resident
17-06-2008, 10:00 PM
Usually, it is valid for 2 years. Therefore, if you are extending the maid for the 3rd year,....

Btw... if I'm not mistaken, FOMEMA checks are not a necessity after the 3rd year onwards... FOR MAIDS/DOMESTIC HELP.


The Ministry of Health has informed us the decision of the Government that foreign workers are subject to 3 medical examination only as stated below:-
Medical examination within 1 month upon arrival in Malaysia (for the purpose of application of work permit for year 1)
Annual medical examination at the end of the first year of the foreign worker in Malaysia for the renewal of work permit (for the purpose of application of work permit for year 2)
Annual medical examination at the end of second year for the foreign worker in Malaysia for the renewal of work permit (for the purpose of application of work permit for year 3)

Annual medical examination at the end of third year and onwards are not required. Employers who are not certain whether the foreign workers are excluded for the medical examination based on the above, please seek clarification from the Immigration Department.
Nevertheless, should the foreign worker who are excluded from the above policy choose to use our system to carry out medical examination, our normal registration procedure applied.

But just to be on the safe side, if your maid DOES go back to her hometown - it would be advisable to go for a check-up... you never know what she had picked up whilst back home...

kuma
18-06-2008, 02:26 AM
I just did mine 2 months back so here's what you need to do.

Renew Passport at the embassy.
The requirement is that both Maid and Employer must go, but I met a man there who is a driver for some big shot MD and he brought the maid there. So?

The only place they check for Employer is at the guard house before they let you in. Probably this is their one chance to get back at the Mísian employers because while your maid will sit in the comfort of an air conditioned waiting room, you will not be allowed to enter and have to sit on a bench or plastic chairs outside for 3-4 hours. They do provide a fan or two for you. Anyway, did see some works there so maybe by now they have sealed the area and aircon it.

There is a simple form for the maid to fill and sign and you must bring the old passport and give the maid the cash. RM 22 or 32 not sure now but they will tell you. You will also need 3 passport size photos. Donít bother taking it at your friendly photo shop as it must have a RED background ( Mísia passport use Blue). There are plenty of places to take there right from the car parks nearby. I recommend you take it in the Embassy grounds as that is the cheapest. RM10.

Once everything is verified by a Ďsecurity guardí, your maid is sent to the processing and you are now free to roam the Embassy grounds or sit on a chair and watch the goings on. If you have never been to Indonesia, this is as good as it gets. My suggestion is that you go to the canteen and check out the great Indonesian fare there. Not bad, clean and cheap.

Bear in mind that the whole area will be packed with people so if your maid has a hand phone or you have a spare, let her carry it. Least you plan to stand by the door checking on everyone coming out. Donít go home with someone elseís maid.

Donít forget your IC, you canít get in without one. You will also need photocopies of it and the passport but you can do it all there. Plenty of time. If Iím not mistaken, you get the queue number before your maid goes to processing area.

You can actually go in the afternoon, less crowd but must be there by 2.00, will finish by 4pm. Gate is closed during lunch hour till 2pm. I was there about 11am and I saw many coming in the afternoon.

Malaysian Permit
Now this is a breeze. Just take passport, Fomema stuff and hand to counter. Sit down in aircon comfort. Play around with your phone, forward all those sms jokes that you had been planning too for days and before you know it your maid's name is called and collect the passport. BTW, try to remember your maidís name. Most times we have a Ďglamourí name for them and may not even know the real name.

Maid neednít have to go. If fact anybody can do it for you.

ymt
18-06-2008, 10:42 AM
Thanks a lot for the information, it is a great help.

Cheers

makeupgirl
24-06-2008, 09:03 PM
book her flight first. then with the details, go to immigration and cancelled her permit. you'll be given some documents for the maid to surrender to immigrations when she exit. all foc.



OK, I just went to immigration with the air ticket and maid passport.. but they ask me to come back another time, becuase doing the 'Memo Periksa Keluar' (document) need to be within 30days before she fly back (according to her flight date). Well... have to go there again :(

So, remember guys.. if your maid going back, go to immigration with
(1) Maid air ticket
(2) Maid passport
(3) less than 30days before her flight

ah heng
24-06-2008, 10:14 PM
Know anything about the process to bring back a maid from Indonesia to work without incurring agency fee? :p


Ya la anyone got this experience.. I'm also interested. Then don hv to worry if my maid refuse to extend her work here. agent fees is ridiculous.

USJ27Resident
26-06-2008, 02:17 PM
Know anything about the process to bring back a maid from Indonesia to work without incurring agency fee? :p

Apparently... it is illegal to hire a maid directly from Indonesia...
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2008/6/26/nation/21658247&sec=nation

if caught, you might end up having a holiday there... damn! :o

Seems the agencies there and here, have got the loopholes covered... so they can squeeze both the employer and employee... kaw-kaw!! :rolleyes:

clfoo
27-06-2008, 01:05 AM
I just did mine 2 months back so here's what you need to do.

Renew Passport at the embassy.
The requirement is that both Maid and Employer must go, but I met a man there who is a driver for some big shot MD and he brought the maid there. So?

The only place they check for Employer is at the guard house before they let you in. Probably this is their one chance to get back at the Mísian employers because while your maid will sit in the comfort of an air conditioned waiting room, you will not be allowed to enter and have to sit on a bench or plastic chairs outside for 3-4 hours. They do provide a fan or two for you. Anyway, did see some works there so maybe by now they have sealed the area and aircon it.

There is a simple form for the maid to fill and sign and you must bring the old passport and give the maid the cash. RM 22 or 32 not sure now but they will tell you. You will also need 3 passport size photos. Donít bother taking it at your friendly photo shop as it must have a RED background ( Mísia passport use Blue). There are plenty of places to take there right from the car parks nearby. I recommend you take it in the Embassy grounds as that is the cheapest. RM10.

Once everything is verified by a Ďsecurity guardí, your maid is sent to the processing and you are now free to roam the Embassy grounds or sit on a chair and watch the goings on. If you have never been to Indonesia, this is as good as it gets. My suggestion is that you go to the canteen and check out the great Indonesian fare there. Not bad, clean and cheap.

Bear in mind that the whole area will be packed with people so if your maid has a hand phone or you have a spare, let her carry it. Least you plan to stand by the door checking on everyone coming out. Donít go home with someone elseís maid.

Donít forget your IC, you canít get in without one. You will also need photocopies of it and the passport but you can do it all there. Plenty of time. If Iím not mistaken, you get the queue number before your maid goes to processing area.

You can actually go in the afternoon, less crowd but must be there by 2.00, will finish by 4pm. Gate is closed during lunch hour till 2pm. I was there about 11am and I saw many coming in the afternoon.

Malaysian Permit
Now this is a breeze. Just take passport, Fomema stuff and hand to counter. Sit down in aircon comfort. Play around with your phone, forward all those sms jokes that you had been planning too for days and before you know it your maid's name is called and collect the passport. BTW, try to remember your maidís name. Most times we have a Ďglamourí name for them and may not even know the real name.

Maid neednít have to go. If fact anybody can do it for you.


Thanks Kuma, your information is timely and valuable. I manage to renew the passport 2 days back, total cost was rm22(passport renewal for three years) + rm17(photo and photostat) + rm5(parking) = rm44, compare with what the agent wanna charge at rm600!!! That's robbery, the service fee should be regulated. The con is need to spend abt 4 hours around the area, but since my leave is cheaper than their fee so it's worthwhile. Btw, if you are wearing shorts you will not be allowed to enter the embassy, that happen to me so I have chance to be bohsia for few hours loitering jalan Tun razak and jalan ampang.

Hmmm should we start a part-time maid permit and passport renewal service in SJ/USJ? :rolleyes:

USJ27Resident
27-06-2008, 01:16 AM
Speaking of renewing your maid's work permits and passports... wanna ask a question... is the maid's PA/General insurance really necessary??

I was told it was 'mandatory' ~ so have been paying 100+ a year for my maid's insurance...

anyone knows anything about maid's insurance... please share... TQVM

makeupgirl
01-07-2008, 06:09 PM
Speaking of renewing your maid's work permits and passports... wanna ask a question... is the maid's PA/General insurance really necessary??

I was told it was 'mandatory' ~ so have been paying 100+ a year for my maid's insurance...

anyone knows anything about maid's insurance... please share... TQVM


My agent gave me a choice to whether take insurance or not (don't remember what kind), but his advice was to take it, in case any emergency.. like hospitalisation, or death! So you don't rugi some more by paying the hospital or even sending the body back to her country, etc.. :p

chin_wan
03-07-2008, 01:55 PM
On a related note, how much to you guys pay your Filipina maid to work on Sunday? It was not stated in the contract.

cpleong
15-09-2008, 08:57 PM
Hi all,

If the maid is registered under the husband name, can the wife go with the maid for the passport renewal?

If so, what documents are needed to prove that the wife is also co-employer? Marriage cert?
Or is the ruling so strict that it has to be the husband?


On another subject, would it pay to be there earlier so that one can queue up and be out of there faster? Or, there's no difference?

Appreciate a prompt reply from the neighbours (bcos my wife just told me I have to go tomorrow!!!)....aaarrrghhh!

USJ27Resident
15-09-2008, 09:08 PM
have been paying 100+ a year for my maid's insurance...TQVM

Guess what..! go get your maid's insurance on your own from an insurance agent or from your insurance agent.... getting it from the employement agency and you pay TOO MUCH !!! :mad:

[can't blame them though, if you want convenience!]

coleslaw
15-09-2008, 09:15 PM
Hi all,

If the maid is registered under the husband name, can the wife go with the maid for the passport renewal?

If so, what documents are needed to prove that the wife is also co-employer? Marriage cert?
Or is the ruling so strict that it has to be the husband?


On another subject, would it pay to be there earlier so that one can queue up and be out of there faster? Or, there's no difference?

Appreciate a prompt reply from the neighbours (bcos my wife just told me I have to go tomorrow!!!)....aaarrrghhh!
not a problem. your wife can go and renew the permit.
how fast one is in and out depends very much on luck...the agents there generally 'paw' most of the queue numbers. from experience it's not too long a wait.

cpleong
15-09-2008, 09:48 PM
Hi Coleslaw - how are you? Hope the water lilies are growing well!

Am asking about passport renewal (not permit though). It is said that the owner needs to go with the maid. If hubby is registered, can wife go instead?

cheers.

coleslaw
15-09-2008, 09:54 PM
oh silly me..didn't read properly.

ok for passport..photocopy of ic..both yours and wifey.
maid can go on her own if she capable..employer need not be present.
mine just renewed hers last month on her own. it will take almost a full day la.
i dropped her off at the embassy at 10am and picked her again at 4!!!

waterlily is doing well though have not flowered yet...but banana plant did..again!!

cpleong
15-09-2008, 10:21 PM
ok thanks! you've been a great help! cheers

Wan Wan
16-09-2008, 07:20 AM
maid can go on her own if she capable..employer need not be present.I never let her go alone.
There are so many undesirable elements there that may persuade her to runaway.
The last time which was last year, I renew her passport it only takes half an hour.
Just ensure she have the correct photos.

daniella
16-09-2008, 08:15 AM
I agree with Wan Wan...unless the maid has been with you for at least 4 years or more...

Just don`t go during school holidays ( there will be hundreds of employers, kids and maids ) and mid-week should be good.

The last time I was there, it took me 3 hours..from submission to passport in hand...including lunch at the Emabassy canteen... :D

Wife can go in place on hubby...It is good enough for the embassy as well as at our Immigration.

libra
16-09-2008, 10:40 AM
Thanks for all the info. May I know how much to pay for permit renewal. Agency is charging me RM700.00 Thanks

Wan Wan
16-09-2008, 12:48 PM
Thanks for all the info. May I know how much to pay for permit renewal. Agency is charging me RM700.00 ThanksI don't think "Agency is charging me RM700.00"
They should clarify that is the total sum for renewal.
Their fees could be about RM100.
Some can do it for RM50 but these days banyak Barang Naik, banyak susah to get RM50.
Usual breakdowns are
1. RM190 FOMEMA
2. RM445 IMMIGRATION of which RM360 levy, RM60 PLKS, RM10 PRS and RM15 multi entry visa.
and your agent is only charging RM65 as their fees.

libra
16-09-2008, 03:15 PM
Thank you Wan Wan.

My maid is more than 2 years. I suppose I don't need to go thru Fomema. They bill me RM255 as service charges...based on your calculations

daniella
16-09-2008, 03:19 PM
Your maid does not need to go thru Fomema only after the 3rd year. FYI.

Wan Wan
16-09-2008, 03:43 PM
Thank you Wan Wan.

My maid is more than 2 years. I suppose I don't need to go thru Fomema. They bill me RM255 as service charges...based on your calculationshuh?
daniella is right, going into 4th year only exempted
I don't think they dare to charge you RM255.
Last I check Barang Naik has not gone through the roof yet.

cpleong
16-09-2008, 04:27 PM
ok - since I was helped by fellow forumers, I believe I owe everyone a report.

Drove maid to Indonesian embassy this morning. Left at 7.30am, arriving around 8.30am. I took the Giant/Summit interchange, turn into Kesas, and took the Maju Express (MEX) highway (before Putra Stadium) and straight into the heart of KL - coming out at Jalan TAR (RHB/Time building). Keep left and slow, and after you pass Jalan Inai, turn into Passage to India's restaurant carpark.

There are plenty of photoshops, and photostating services.
If it rains, there's also one within the embassy compound (under some stairways).

Parking
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Parked at "Passage to India" restaurant area where there are touts (don't use them - I'll explain why later), and a canteen that is not opened (bcos of puasa time). Parking is RM5 per entry. If you drive out, and come back, be prepared to pay another RM5.

Touts
=====
The moment we alight, there are touts that will come around and asks what you want to do. Unless you are not prepared about what you want to do, then you can be gullible enough to take in their offer. I saw one man who paid RM125/= for the packaged deal.

The tout promised that the maid will get her documents back at 11.30am. The man paid, and the photocopy/photography process took place.
Then the tout went off to a corner and punched some numbers in his handphone and "spoke" to someone. The man told me later that this guy told him to come back later around 12 - 1pm. (that was after agreeing 5 mins ago, that the deal should be complete by 11.30am!).

The man knew he had been conned then. I had a "de-brief" from him and he was quite unhappy.

The kantor
=========
Canteen not open - puasa. Bring your own snacks/drinks.
If you get lucky, u'll meet Mr Motorbike with packet drinks and tid-bits

The process
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Quite simply,
1. after parking the car, proceed with maid to gatehouse.
2. At the gate, the guards will verify your reason into the embassy. They will provide the forms.
3. Proceed to form filling area. (you can see the area from the gate)
4. Fill the forms.
5. Submit the forms at another stage-gate. The officer there will verify completeness of documents/info before issuing a number.
6. Once u have number, present it a guard guarding the entrance to the air-con area (where the counters are located).
7. They'll let you/maid in the room, but the seating capacity is very cramped and the air-con is not that strong to fend off B.O.
8. I left my maid there to go through the whole process and by around noon, we were out of the place.
9. I might say that when I left the place, and based on the number my maid have (1425), we're about 1/4-way of total population of people I can see, having numbers that day. There were quite a number of people earlier than us.
10. When we left the place around noon, all numbers were taken (sign posted at gate).
11. There's also a kenyataan that discourage the engagement of touts outside and within the embassy grounds.

Leaving the maid there
=================
Can't resist to comment.
The choice to leave the maid there is a personal decision on the part of the employer. You know your maid best, and you can decide to do that after surveying the environment and knowing your maid's character/integrity. You will have plenty of time to do that.
The majority of Indonesians are hard working, honest God-fearing. There are bad hats that spoils their reputation. I wouldn't want to place where Malaysians are on behaviours when we are overseas. We also have a reputation ourselves. (chuckles).

The man who engaged the services of the tout ran foul of some documents, requiring the maid to re-photocopy and therefore, he got a later queue number. When I left, he was still waiting for his maid.

No wifi in that area. So, don't bother bringing your laptop to do surfing.
RHB, Technip, Time buildings have secured wireless which you cannot access.

BTW - as this is puasa period, they work during lunch time, from 8.30-4.30pm.
Also, you'll be able to collect your passport within the same day.

I heard one guard says that in "normal days", it'll take about 3 days to get back the passport. I can't verify if this is true, but someone wrote here that it is possible to have the passport within the same day as well.

If you are a walker, you can actually walk along Jalan Inai and it's about 1km to Marriott hotel. Along the way, you will pass Dorsett Hotel/Jalan Imbi makan places and coffee shops. Just bring an umbrella with you, in case it rains when you're done. It takes about 15 mins to walk from Embassy to JW Marriott. It's almost a straight line path from Jalan Inai.

Hope this info will help someone.
Cheers,
CP.


p/s: go without breakfast. Plenty of choices for you.

daniella
17-09-2008, 02:56 PM
Great to know...all went pretty well for you...albeit canteen closed for puasa.. :D

mWong
25-09-2008, 02:44 PM
THANK YOU forumers! From all the advice & info. given on how to renew an Indonesian's maid work permit, I had mine done without any hassle.

Am pretty impressed with our Immigration Dept. in PKNS Shah Alam, too. Got it done within 20 minutes despite the crowd. Just submit her passport & $445 cash at the Counter Pertanyaan & voila! (No photostating of IC, passport whatsoever).

Just a word of caution: Don't Forget you need to pay your car parking ticket at autopay in the building & not at exit. Blur sotong :confused: here didnt notice any sign of that & you can guess what happened next.

yyhhcc
08-05-2009, 05:17 PM
Hi all,
Just wonder, can i go to any Immigration Dept instead of PKNS (ie. the one located in Pusat Bandar Damansara - damansara height) to renew the permit once the fomema is done?

Tks for all the kind soul here , I just did the passport renewal and the fomema on my own now, left with only the permit extension process now..

daniella
10-05-2009, 01:27 PM
Yes...Immigration is now online..Can renew at the Damansara office too even if your address in Selangor...

yyhhcc
13-05-2009, 07:47 PM
Yes...Immigration is now online..Can renew at the Damansara office too even if your address in Selangor...

Hi Daniella,
care to elaborate what do you mean by 'Immigration is now online' ?

daniella
14-05-2009, 12:17 PM
Online...ie means,,if you are residing in Selangor, one was only able to renew at Selangor Imm depts or at Putrajaya those days...now..you can do it at KL Imm dept like at Damansara or WP...

So it should also mean nationwide...I think.. :D

yyhhcc
14-05-2009, 02:19 PM
alrightee! :) Thanks for the feedback.. I will certainly attempt the renewal at Pusat Bandar Damansara eventhough my address is in SG.. See how it goes then..

ATung
14-05-2009, 04:56 PM
Hi, nid your comment on the maid going back for vacation after 2yrs contract. Do i hold her salary & how much, please advise? Tnx

cjk888
14-05-2009, 05:03 PM
Yes, you need to holld her salary. The amount to at least cover whatever moneyyou spent to prolong her service. Or else, she may not come back as promised.

Sukdershan
15-05-2009, 03:07 AM
Yes, you need to holld her salary. The amount to at least cover whatever moneyyou spent to prolong her service. Or else, she may not come back as promised.
What about all the talk about democratizing the rights of workers, after all 14days ago we all celebrated Labour Day....... :)

Mrs A Tham
15-05-2009, 11:55 PM
What about all the talk about democratizing the rights of workers, after all 14days ago we all celebrated Labour Day....... :)

Originally Posted by cjk888
Yes, you need to holld her salary. The amount to at least cover whatever moneyyou spent to prolong her service. Or else, she may not come back as promised.

And I agree with you cjk888
Holding back salary doesn't mean we not paying her. She will get it back asap when she returns unless she is only entertaining you saying she'll come back. You must not force her lah to commit to the extention of service...she must agree out of own will. So it should be fine with her that you inform her the 2 months of her salary will be held back and for what purpose. Incase after she 'janji' and no show then the money will be for compensation to the 'Majikan' coz $$ about the same amount is being utilized for all the paperwork neccessaities.
I was given this advice by my agent coz he told me many cases happened....maids promised to come back but no show!

yyhhcc
18-05-2009, 10:14 AM
What about all the talk about democratizing the rights of workers, after all 14days ago we all celebrated Labour Day....... :)

human rights only valid to a certain extend, as I have my own rights to protect my own interests too..

My maid is completing her 2nd year, and i'm extending her permit for another year based on her own will to stay on.. I will certainly hold the sum of all costs to renew her passport, permit, fomema check. That's all, not holding any more than this as all that are her hard-earned money, I know that.

agulu
04-07-2009, 10:48 PM
I have got a lot of useful information from here when renewing my maid's passport and I would like to share some updates. The Indonesia Embassy now has prepared for the employer the contract, which is to be sign between the employer and the maid, and the staff of the embassy will be the witness. I have wrote down a figure plus some increment for the maid, but apparently that was lower than their "minimum wage" of RM600, so myself and also quite a lot employers were called to another counter and told that we have underpaid the maid. So the situation looks like if you don't change the figure to RM600 you won't get the passport renewed. I was caught in surprise to know that on the spot. Is this something new? How do you guys deal with that?

rfhanim
24-07-2009, 03:53 PM
This was what I had to go through this month for Maid's (1) renewal of Passport at Indonesia Embassy and also (2) extension of work permit at Immigration Putrajaya. However as she has worked more than 5 years, she was not required to go for the fomema medical check up. Readers - I wouldnt pay an Agent to get all this done bcs the whole process is not difficult, just time consuming. All in all, you need to take 2 days off.

Day One
Indonesia Embassy - Go in the morning as parking will be easier, just beside (left side) of the embassy RM7. Your Maid has to be in attendance with her original Passport, most recent (read: new) passport photo. Preferably the Majikan also attend and have your copy of IC ready too. Being there makes it easier, as the requirement now is to sign the pre-prepared "4-page Contract of Employment" which is only available at the Embassy.When you are there, you also need to fill in the "Application to Renew Passport" form. All these forms are only available from the Officers manning the "Forms/Borang" desk - I tried to ask for an extra copy to bring home and he said "Tak Boleh". The "Contract of Employment" will ask for various details e.g. date of contract, salary $ (which must be more than RM600 anything less it will be rejected I suppose), address of employment, signature of Majikan and Maid. NB: If you are doing it for your Dad/Mum, Aunt/Uncle - make sure you get an Authorisation Letter signed by them (majikan) and attach copy of their IC to authorise you to act of their behalf (wakil majikan). Then you can sign this "Contract of Employmt" on their behalf. BTW there is a Notice Board with examples on how to fill in the forms. Once the forms are completed and all attachments ready, get your Maid to join the queue. If all documentations meets the Embassy's requirement, the whole process may take 2-3 hours, the new Passport will be ready on the same day. How efficient!

Day Two
Immigration Putrajaya for Renewal of Work Permit and i-KAD Application - Go to the lounge that says Pembantu Rumah, not Pekerja Asing. Bring Maid (yes your Maid must go if she has not applied for her i-KAD), Majikan must go too (if not, get an authorisation letter as explained above). Docs you need:-

Original Passport
1 piece passport size photo BUT make sure its with WHITE BACKGROUND, not red (for i-KAD application)
Bank Draft for RM445 for KETUA PENGARAH IMIGRESEN MALAYSIA
Copy of Majikan's IC
Copy of Maid's Passport
Copy of Maid's latest PLKS (work permit)
Borang i-KAD (get from counter)

Get your queue number and ask for the Borang i-KAD. Fill that in (very easy 1-page form)and you will be processed at Counter 8. Then make payment RM445 at Counter BAYARAN, and get the Work Permit from counter PELEKAT. All can be ready on the very same day, and your Maid will be all smiles with her now personalised i-KAD (wallet size)which she can carry around instead of the Passport. This process may take less 1/2 day. Alls well, ends well... hope this helps.

mWong
25-07-2009, 03:24 PM
It's so nice of you to take the time to post such a detailed info., rfhanim. Very timely & useful for me as mine needs to be done real soon. Thanks a bundle! :)

clfoo
03-08-2009, 11:14 PM
any experience employer can advise on application procedure for maid going back for holiday ... need to do it at jabatan imigresen or indonesia embassy? any rule on airfare borne by who? tq in advance.

coleslaw
03-08-2009, 11:18 PM
my maid goes back once every 2 years. air fare is on me. if this applies to you and she's returning, you'll would have to ensure her passport is still valid and her work permit has been extended.

clfoo
03-08-2009, 11:29 PM
my maid goes back once every 2 years. air fare is on me. if this applies to you and she's returning, you'll would have to ensure her passport is still valid and her work permit has been extended.

just the normal work permit extension and valid passport will do? no need surat cuti for such purpose?

coleslaw
03-08-2009, 11:33 PM
check and see if yr address is added in her passport. this is to avoid her having to pay departure tax ex indonesia.. i understand that now, new indon passports renewal will automatically have it in.
if there's none, then gotta go to indon embassy and get a letter.

coleslaw
03-08-2009, 11:37 PM
read this thread from page 1..all info are there.

clfoo
04-08-2009, 11:28 PM
read this thread from page 1..all info are there.

checked b4 but not found anything on application for back home cuti yet. Only on renew permit and passport so far. Anyway, Thanks.

yyhhcc
05-08-2009, 07:39 PM
I've a sample 'Surat Cuti' if you want.

New passport (after the 2nd year) would identify her address in the passport as 'local' to malaysia. All you need is to write a letter on your own, sign it , and let her keep it. She needs to present the letter to M'sia imigresen upon arrival (coming back to MY). -

This is a confirmed process by both Indonesia Embassy as well as M'sia Imigresen department.

USJ27Resident
05-08-2009, 10:06 PM
my maid of 8 years... sob story... mother sick.. this la that la... bagi cash adv 2 ribu TT balik... then mak masuk hospital... tenat... bagi lagi 1 ribu... beli tiket pesawat, hantar balik... ma-***... supposed to come back today, never showed up... kena conned kaw-kaw... tiket pesawat pun burn... :: kalo dah tak nak kerja, cakap aje ... why... the bloody f*'ing charades...

treat them nice and they **** on you... now cannot even get replacement cos the old work permit is still valid... kalau cancel... kena fined pulak,... kan sial!!!

Go la - get your surat cuti la.. for these fellas...I BET WITH YOU... if they take all their MONIES with them or if they take ADVANCE from you, you are definately SCREWED...

And I always told myself... not all are the same... YA RIGHT!!! :mad: :mad:

clfoo
06-08-2009, 02:01 PM
I've a sample 'Surat Cuti' if you want.

New passport (after the 2nd year) would identify her address in the passport as 'local' to malaysia. All you need is to write a letter on your own, sign it , and let her keep it. She needs to present the letter to M'sia imigresen upon arrival (coming back to MY). -

This is a confirmed process by both Indonesia Embassy as well as M'sia Imigresen department.

oh the surat cuti is from the employer, not from imigresen or indonesia embassy.
Appreciate if you can paste the sample here or PM me. Thanks.



Go la - get your surat cuti la.. for these fellas...I BET WITH YOU... if they take all their MONIES with them or if they take ADVANCE from you, you are definately SCREWED...
ya advice given is to retain some portion of money if possible.

Justme123
06-08-2009, 02:19 PM
I have got a lot of useful information from here when renewing my maid's passport and I would like to share some updates. The Indonesia Embassy now has prepared for the employer the contract, which is to be sign between the employer and the maid, and the staff of the embassy will be the witness. I have wrote down a figure plus some increment for the maid, but apparently that was lower than their "minimum wage" of RM600, so myself and also quite a lot employers were called to another counter and told that we have underpaid the maid. So the situation looks like if you don't change the figure to RM600 you won't get the passport renewed. I was caught in surprise to know that on the spot. Is this something new? How do you guys deal with that?Is this true?
Our maid salary is below RM600.
I don't think there is any legal requirement for "minimum wage" of RM600.

Since there is no legal requirement on this, i don't think the Indonesian Embassy has any rights to put this as a require or enforce this.

But if we cannot talk legal sense to them, it looks like we may just have to do it to get the passport.

yyhhcc
06-08-2009, 03:29 PM
Newspaper talked about this month(s) ago, but there is nothing in B&W yet as far as I know. But to get the passport renew, yes you have to agree to pay RM600 p/m.

USJ27Resident
06-08-2009, 09:26 PM
ya advice given is to retain some portion of money if possible.

just to let you guys know, above advice is relevant - keep at least 250/-

Today I learnt another thing... that OUR IMMIGRATION would FINE US RM250 if our maid decides NOT TO COME BACK... :mad:

Where got jalan.... feeling pretty stupid and dumb now... first your maid gives you a sob story - you give her SALARY UPFRONT for her family and then she absconds... and instead of siding with US... our immigration penalises us for them NOT coming back... :rolleyes: what a load of crock... !!

>>>bye bye salary advance!!
>>>bye bye return air ticket!!!
>>>bye bye another RM250!!!!

maytan
30-12-2009, 04:05 PM
Anyone have sample of surat cuti,would be most appreciated if could send me .thank you in advance

maytan
30-12-2009, 04:07 PM
Hi,friend ,could you please send me a sample surat cuti,my maid going back for holiday soon.thank you.

mWong
30-12-2009, 04:52 PM
Hi maytan, go to post #9 in this thread for more info. Letter is from the embassy and not one that you need to prepare. It is still better to have your address put in your maid's passport.

maytan
05-06-2010, 08:50 PM
Does anyone know if maid go back holiday,if we need to buy return ticket for her?my problem is my maid has not confirm when she will come back,agent advised me to buy return ticket ,it is true?urgent?my maid going back soon,tq.

coleslaw
05-06-2010, 09:18 PM
have you renewed her work permit?
her return is subject to the validity of her permit and passport.

USJ27Resident
05-06-2010, 09:39 PM
Does anyone know if maid go back holiday,if we need to buy return ticket for her?my problem is my maid has not confirm when she will come back,agent advised me to buy return ticket ,it is true?urgent?my maid going back soon,tq.

A. YOU better keep RM250 (from your maid's account) for "angpow".... for the Immigration Dept;

1. if she doesn't come back....
2. if she doesn't have a "check-out" memo...
3. if you want to cancel her permit and get a new maid...

B. You can buy ONE WAY TICKETS la... especially if the person is flying back to his/her originating country. IF AND WHEN she decides to come back - then you buy a ONE WAY ticket from here and post/fax/email the e-ticket to her to return. Just make sure her passport and the work permit is still valid for her return.

Why waste good money for a maid that is NOT SURE she'wants to return or not.