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sirgalahad2010
23-08-2006, 01:53 PM
Yay, right on!

Power to the rakyat! :)

Now, can this be replicated in other Msian towns and cities?

saml
23-08-2006, 02:31 PM
Why should the citizens need to act as policemen? Do we not pay our taxes and the police are paid salaries and whatnots for them to stay as policemen? If they are not doing their job they should be taken to task for it. It doesn't solve the problem.

sirgalahad2010
24-08-2006, 09:33 AM
Understaffed, underpaid......

Need I go on?

isarahim
24-08-2006, 11:54 AM
It doesn't solve the problem.
Yes, but since we've concluded many times in this forum that converting BN to an opposition alliance is not realistic in the short term, there seem to be no other choice. The crime is here and now.

sirgalahad2010
25-08-2006, 01:54 PM
Yah, but why hantam (is this a permissible word?) the police when they are not responsible for stuff like, say

- an education system that produces drop-outs and doesn't know what to do with them?
- porous borders which result in a lot of illegal immigrants, with the resulting social consequences?
- an environment that leaves the poor feeling that they have no place or stake in an increasingly globalised economy?
- a lack of controls where both soft and hard drugs are readily available?

Do you bring in the police to clean up the mess resulting from faulty or failed policies?

Just asking.

johndee
25-08-2006, 02:31 PM
Whoa... SirG. u r bringing up too many things at one time. There are always contraints whatever situation we r in. Lets break up into simpler issues n resolve one at a time. Back to the thread, thumbs up to the JB vigilantes who r doing their part to help their own community be safer. Way to go man!

saml
25-08-2006, 03:05 PM
Do you see any cops walking on beat these days? I remember when I was young and that was many many moons ago when we can actually see cops on beat. Nowadays you can see them zoom past in their police cars. Have you ever see one pair of them walking in your neighbourhood>? I have not seen them myself. I do not believe that we had more cops then but their presnce was seen and felt.

pcyeoh
25-08-2006, 03:07 PM
Why should the citizens need to act as policemen? Do we not pay our taxes and the police are paid salaries and whatnots for them to stay as policemen? If they are not doing their job they should be taken to task for it. It doesn't solve the problem.
And I also wonder do you ask the same question about the school that you send your children to acquire an education? You also pay taxes and the salaries of the teachers and the teachers are supposed to be trained and know how to teach. Then why are you still sending your kids to tuitions. Why are you acting like a teacher in your home helping out with the kids' homework? When you paid RM 200,000 for your house, why are you spending another RM 70,000 renovating them? And the list goes on. There are some things in life where sometimes we have to ask "Ask not what the country can do for you but rather what you can do for the country."

As for cops, having spend a fair bit of my time on the road, I do see them now and them. But the are not omnipresent so it is understandable that you don't see them eveywhere. But just because we have not seen God does not mean there is no God.

orchipalar
25-08-2006, 03:40 PM
Do you see any cops walking on beat these days? I remember when I was young and that was many many moons ago when we can actually see cops on beat. Nowadays you can see them zoom past in their police cars. Have you ever see one pair of them walking in your neighbourhood>? I have not seen them myself. I do not believe that we had more cops then but their presnce was seen and felt.Err buddy...maybe the higher density of property development n the polulations have overwhelmed the Police presence...

n maybe the higher crime rates have overwhelmed the Police performance...but certainly Orchi hopes NOT to see the Police walking in our neighborhood...else we be in deeper trouble...err...how are they going to cover such a large residential n commercial community...on foot?:p

We used to have a little over 15 to 16 millions Malaysian populations not too many years ago...by now there could be more than 26 millions of "malaysians"...

in those circumstances beyond any layman's control...Orchi for one doesn't see the postmen...but Orchi gets the mails delivered almost everyday...

Orchi for one also doesn't see the water or electricity utility meter reading men doing their rounds...but Orchi gets the bills delivered without fail almost every month...

Just the otherday...only did Orchi see that the garbage collectors come by 3 times in a week...only because the maid is away on holidays now...so Orchi had to take out the garbages daily...

isarahim
25-08-2006, 04:24 PM
As for cops, having spend a fair bit of my time on the road, I do see them now and them. But the are not omnipresent so it is understandable that you don't see them eveywhere.
As you know I'm flying in and out of the country these days, so what I see are only snapshots of the real situation. Whenever I see police officers, it's in either of the following states:

1. Escorting VIPs
2. Asleep or half asleep in pondok
3. Closing off roads
4. Directing traffic at intersections
5. Driving madly without blue-lights setting "good example" for Malaysian drivers.

I agree that 4. can be useful in overcoming a faulty traffic system installed by crony companies, but the rest.....

Sato
26-08-2006, 04:13 PM
one more:

6.sitting in mamak stall enjoying tea tarik :mad:

yvc
26-08-2006, 04:37 PM
one more:

6.sitting in mamak stall enjoying tea tarik :mad:

>>> they r human too...like us :) need rice and water to survive :D

blues
26-08-2006, 07:04 PM
Whoa... SirG. u r bringing up too many things ....

also sometimes with irrelevant issues( views 100,replies 1 )

chin_wan
28-08-2006, 09:28 AM
Why should the citizens need to act as policemen? Do we not pay our taxes and the police are paid salaries and whatnots for them to stay as policemen? If they are not doing their job they should be taken to task for it. It doesn't solve the problem.

My favourite Michael Jackson song is Man In The Mirror.