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sirgalahad2010
18-08-2006, 01:05 PM
The Spore Straits Times, in a report today about the PM's push to encourage poor farmers in the north of the country to move into the more profitable food processing industry, highlighted a farmer called Shafie Che Sa.

Encik Shafie told the paper that 7 years ago, he had to sell 2 cows for RM3,000 to raise funds to open a small workshop to process coffee. Today, his family of 5 lives comfortably on an income of RM6,000 a month from coffee processing.

RM6,000 a month? That's better than what many civil servants or junior executives in the private sector earn.

So, is this the beginning of a turnaround in the country's rural areas where 5% of the people live below the poverty line? That, surely, is to be welcomed.

Maybe, rural development and the transformation of the agricultural sector should be given equal importance alongside the so-called "mega projects" in ensuring that no Malaysian "is left behind" (to paraphrase George Bush)?

ericchan
18-08-2006, 04:30 PM
Alex the Chicken rice seller at SS15 earns more than Rm6000 a month I hear, and he does not need to toil so hard like the farmer.

tupai
18-08-2006, 07:16 PM
ah beng sells char koay teow in ss2...he drives a bmw 5...guess how much he makes? Oh, now his indon worker is char-ing whilst he hunts for another outlet... what that says?

Yang Akan Belajar char koay teow soon, lato tupai

pucman
18-08-2006, 10:56 PM
ah beng sells char koay teow in ss2...he drives a bmw 5...guess how much he makes? Oh, now his indon worker is char-ing whilst he hunts for another outlet... what that says?

Yang Akan Belajar char koay teow soon, lato tupai

Are you sure char koay teow earns more than rm 6000 ? Then why do people go to universities ?

I had better become a hawker seller. ;)

iml109
18-08-2006, 11:06 PM
Are you sure char koay teow earns more than rm 6000 ? Then why do people go to universities ?

I had better become a hawker seller. ;)

First u need to learn how to make those yummy noodles that ppl comes for from far and beyond!! :D

tupai
18-08-2006, 11:14 PM
why do u thnk now I also wanna be a char keow teow man? :confused:
check out the rojak seller at ss15..opp. shell near the mosque...at an average Rm5.00 per plate basic and no 'kar-liew'...he has a long Q every day! ANd no rental to pay! His copst are ingredeint, 1 worker, and a van + mpsj license(?).
Lets work on a conservative 100customers=rm500 X 50% margin = Rm250pday X 30 = Rm7500 profit per mth ...tax free!

The chandol man near the mosque, opposite subang parade refused my offer to pay him Rm300 for a serving of 150pax stationing, 12-3pm, at my place during my CNY open house this year! He said he can made more in the 3 hrs!

They went to univ? think again.

Yang Amat Blur lato tupai

iml109
18-08-2006, 11:26 PM
Don't think so, but i am sure for all those special super yummy chendols / rojak / noodles, there sure is a secret recipe.

I make great konyaku jellies that my colleagues are crazy about, but I don't think I can drop my job to make those jellies for living... :D

j/k

totoro
18-08-2006, 11:33 PM
hmm, heard one popular nasi kandar boss earns in the 7-8 figure a year.

orchipalar
18-08-2006, 11:38 PM
Err...why need to make a comparison or an example out of some cute face in lontun?...much of the figures are beyond the reach of even a genuine n noble english knight...

Ahem...take for an example of how much a layman who does the traditional chiropractice or whatchamacallit...in PJ alone.

Err...averaging 50 patients per day...10 mins per session per patient max...from 8:00am to 9pm daily except Sundays n Public holidays...n he charges 40 lousy ringgit per treatment...n he has been doing it for at least 20 years...

No need any assistant whatsoever...just a usual airconditioned office outfit...with 30 free seating plastic stools to accommodate his long queues of patients...

n yes you need to take a number...n wait for at least 1 hour before your painful tennis elbow...stiff shoulders/neck...sprains or dislocated joint could be fix by him...

n most ya get out of his prescriptions...could be a bandage...at the most.

Err...there is no need for any smart alec to figure out how much he makes in a day...a month...or annually...

n there is no need for any smart alec to figure out how much is his total cost in a day...a month...or annually...

pucman
18-08-2006, 11:39 PM
why do u thnk now I also wanna be a char keow teow man? :confused:

Yang Amat Blur lato tupai

Lato tupai,

I wasted so many years going to universities earning pittance :( .

Can we set up a relationship to become joint char keow teow seller ? :D

Yang amat datuk Char Keow Teow.

iml109
18-08-2006, 11:39 PM
:D

Finishing work soon, and a light bulb flashes above my head!

Why don't we open a coffee shop with everyone's specialty??

hehehe.. j/k... :p

kwchang
19-08-2006, 12:20 AM
sirgalahad's surprise at a 'lowly' farmer earning RM6,000 per month is typical of wage earners who think that uneducated people earns less than a university grad. But then again .....

Please keep some things in mind ....

in a 'normal' population (that is talking statistics here...), a large percentage of the population (not necessarily 95%) will be the 'standard' man-in-the-street who is a wage earner, with a university degree, has 2.5 kids, a house on mortgage, a proton and just making ends meet. At both ends of this bell-curve will be the poorer cousins and the extremely rich tycoons.

The normal person has to go get a degree to ensure he/she fits into this 'normal' lifestyle otherwise he/she might be struggling to survive.

The moral of my story is simply this .... don't for a moment think ANYONE can skip education and make millions. If you happen to be a Kiyosaki believer, then please believe what he had said before - the millionaire club has exclusive memberships. Only about 10% of the population can make it there. My vague memory reminds me that he has this 90-10 rule....which says only 10% makes it rich. So, for the rest of us mortals, believe me, you need the education to make the grade.

totoro
19-08-2006, 12:22 AM
actually in the NST, there was an article about a month ago about a fler who switched jobs from a RM1500 car salesman to a RM8000 a month rubber tapper. ;)

tupai
19-08-2006, 11:21 AM
tried out my first prototype kuali char-kaoy-teow and candol last nite...the verdict/s have yet to come in. I however won't be betting on a multi-million RM successful recipe. I kinda suspect that the verdicts will be a mix of
- got the run after 1hr! :eek:
- too salty and lack the 'sumthin' :o
- too burnt but nice for those who like smoked meat
;)
- plain "YUK!" :o
- Mum! Can I have a plain burger PLISS!!!!!! :p

So I am thankful that I still got my B.A. (UK), B.L.U.R. (sj, MAL), H.i.C. (kl, MAL), H.O.G., M.B.C., S.F.B., D.U.H.(mal).

And with such 'kuali-fications', no wonderlah, I get to RV with hot, successful, brainiest women and even a Pharmacist Penthouse pet ;)
...so I still believe in getting the best education if only to meet hotter women livin' in faster lane! :cool: (and my stoopid mug face didn't help one bit at all! :mad:

Yang Amat Berkualiti rendah lato tupai I.D.G.a.F (mal)

sirgalahad2010
19-08-2006, 01:02 PM
How many of these self-employed guys pay income tax, as opposed to the average hard-working salaryman (and woman)? :(

Or should they be respected because they get away without paying income tax? Are they taking a free ride on the backs of the average wage-earning joes out there?

pucman
19-08-2006, 09:23 PM
So I am thankful that I still got my B.A. (UK), B.L.U.R. (sj, MAL), H.i.C. (kl, MAL), H.O.G., M.B.C., S.F.B., D.U.H.(mal).

n getting the best education if only to meet hotter women livin' in faster lane! :cool: (and my stoopid mug face didn't help one bit at all! :mad:



God ! What are those 'outer-space' qualifications ? Anyway, my qualifications BSC,MSC didn't land me any profitable job nor 'hot' women. :(

Yang amat tidak berhormat 'unlucky' datuk char koew teow. :eek:

tupai
19-08-2006, 09:52 PM
of course lah..these har kaoy teow sellers and his other professional friends like candolman, coconut juice seller, chap fan loh, as well as chicken seller (in pudu wet mkt) all most likely didnt pay a sen income tax :mad:

DO know that with the 60-80k buncha 'qualified' graduates outta job, the income tax blokes are putting these unemployable-graduates to work/stalk/hunt/scan/monitor/inspect/hassle these professionals (and about time too :D

My friend selling chicken in pudu is sweating buckets after upgrading from waja to accord and drew the attention of the taxman...my word to him" Tai -say!" :p

pucman...my kualifications are just as rare as krondykes...either u r very very good or very dead to have as many kualis as mine :D

Go git baby! go git!!!!!!!! :p

Yang Amat Bayar tax lato tupai H.i.C. (under coconut tree in krabi)

AllUrban
20-08-2006, 01:04 PM
How many of these self-employed guys pay income tax, as opposed to the average hard-working salaryman (and woman)? :(

Or should they be respected because they get away without paying income tax? Are they taking a free ride on the backs of the average wage-earning joes out there?If they are, more power to them :)

It's sad when people think that the only successful people are educated ones, and the only successful businesses are the big international and industrial types

I wonder...if the government actually tried to find out how much money is being made in this unknown economy....they might realize that certain people are working hard and making money

Then, perhaps they would realize that the NEPs and the badwill that they have created were not so necessary.

Similarly, if the population realized how much money is being made in these non-taxable, non-permanent, non-criminal businesses, the perception of certain people being lazy might disappear as well

Cheers, m

totoro
20-08-2006, 01:23 PM
I wonder...if the government actually tried to find out how much money is being made in this unknown economy....they might realize that certain people are working hard and making money

Then, perhaps they would realize that the NEPs and the badwill that they have created were not so necessary.
i think the govt should be well aware, coz we're looking at a few specific instances while the govt have always been looking at the whole 20+ million population.

as Chang mentioned, only 1 in 10 businessmen make it (or roughly 7 out of 10 businesses fail) so it's not that easy, even with all the hard work.

chin_wan
20-08-2006, 03:26 PM
Lato tupai,

I wasted so many years going to universities earning pittance :( .

Can we set up a relationship to become joint char keow teow seller ? :D

Yang amat datuk Char Keow Teow.

Oh you poor boy...equating education with how much money you are going to earn.

Tsk tsk tsk.

If the above correlation were true, i.e. more education = more money, then all the University professors would be gazillionaires. Guess what, it is not true. Yes, the truth hurts especially if it is your parents' "study hard and you will become successful and rich" truth.

I too got burned but let's live and learn. ;)

chin_wan
20-08-2006, 03:49 PM
The normal person has to go get a degree to ensure he/she fits into this 'normal' lifestyle otherwise he/she might be struggling to survive.


Well said but I think that everyone has to struggle initially (unless you're born rich) before you can make it big.



The moral of my story is simply this .... don't for a moment think ANYONE can skip education and make millions. If you happen to be a Kiyosaki believer, then please believe what he had said before - the millionaire club has exclusive memberships. Only about 10% of the population can make it there. My vague memory reminds me that he has this 90-10 rule....which says only 10% makes it rich. So, for the rest of us mortals, believe me, you need the education to make the grade.

I don't know who this Kiyosaki dude that you are refering to but I believe that there is little correlation between how much education you have and how much money you make.

I am not saying education in not important, in fact, I believe that education is the most important of all (after love). Education (both negative and positive) promotes openess, it helps us make the right decision, it is the key to a more civilised society, it is the key to making Malaysia a developed nation.

This is why I don't believe that we should censor anything for the sake of our young. Instead, we should educate them on the positive and negative side of everything. If your child sees nudity or violance on TV or the 8 o'clock news, don't shut them off. Let them ask questions. Talk to them, teach them about it cause guess what, they will learn them sooner or later. Better to start young and build that trust between you and your kids. Once you have that openess/trust between you and your kids, there is nothing that your kids can't talk to you about.

I have that kind of relationship with my parents. They would never shut me out from anything. I learn about a lot of things since I was young and I tell my parents everything, yes, EVERYTHING. When I first had sex, when I was bullied by my schoolmates, when I smoked my first cigarettes, etc.

I have a lot of friends who does not have such relationship with their parents thus when they did something wrong they are too afraid to talk to their parents about it until their parents find out the hard way which is when it is too late. Either my friends are in too deep or it will take too long to heal.

I am glad that I can go to my parents when I have anything in my mind. And if they are stump as well, we would go look for answers together. :)

I think I am going out of topic. Anyway, I feel that the equation:

more education = more money

does not hold true, at least, not anymore.

chin_wan
20-08-2006, 03:58 PM
How many of these self-employed guys pay income tax, as opposed to the average hard-working salaryman (and woman)? :(

Or should they be respected because they get away without paying income tax? Are they taking a free ride on the backs of the average wage-earning joes out there?

You'd be surprise by how hardworking the Inland Revenue peeps are when it comes to collecting taxes. I know for a fact that, actually, I have seen them going to hawker centres in Penang in bus load. They'd each stand by the hawker stand assigned to them and count the number of plates of char kuey teow sold. They'd then make a case with the hawker and tell them how much tax the hawker owe the govt.

CS Chua
20-08-2006, 04:26 PM
I still remember 2 graduates who gave up their white collar jobs to sell noodles. Each of them made $5,000.00 a month. And that was 10 years ago. Asked for their comments, they said, "Good money but no job satisfaction." I guess that summarises it. There are a lot of jobs that give good income but it might not appeal to all and sundry. My friend's brother bought over a chicken rice roadside stall for $30,000.00 and he recovered that money within a few months. He was doing around 30 chicken a day.

If one is prepared to work hard and at odd hours, there are plenty of opportunities. Malaysia is indeed a place where dreams can come true.

tupai
20-08-2006, 09:32 PM
I still remember 2 graduates who gave up their white collar jobs to sell noodles. ...
If one is prepared to work hard and at odd hours, there are plenty of opportunities. Malaysia is indeed a place where dreams can come true.

And i too know a bank branch manager who gave up and set up a stall selling soups (python, iguana, mountain goat, terrapine and the likes)...nowhe is very happy like a frog in the rain :D

YES!!!! Malaysia is loaded with opportunities and if only we open our eyes like this :eek: :eek: :eek: :p


Yang Amat Belonging to Bolehland lato tupai

kwchang
21-08-2006, 12:07 AM
Chin Wan, don't try putting words in my mouth.
I never said more education = more money.

All I said was the average person needs education to make a normal lifestyle. That is not a rich lifestyle.

Oh, by the way, if anyone is talking about being millionaires, do consider this, if you moved into employment something like 20 years ago or more, you would probably have bought a house for something like RM150,000. With your savings, EPF and investments into trusts, stocks and fixed deposits, you would very likely be worth a million in assets and money on paper by the time you retired at 60. So, realy, it isn't that difficult to be a millionaire. Take out your calculators .... and do remember to put the values in FUTURE value. I can't say you can buy much with that million, but you may be happy to note that you can be worth a million.

aurora97
21-08-2006, 12:32 AM
The common perception is that best job is a desk job with air-conditioning and a 9-5pm job.

The agricultural industry requires alot of sweat and tears, but when it does bear fruits (provided you plant the right crop) the return can be fantastic. People in East Malaysia for example who saw the potential of Palm Oil crop in 1995, and bought up small plots of land are currently millionaires (2006). Those days land was so cheap in East Malaysia, some were deep in the interiors but settlers went ahead and develop the land. No road, no electricity, the nearest town is probably 5-6hrs drive on muddy unpaved roads, they risked everything.

I am not suprised if a farmer earns Rm 6000 a month, even in a recent article in TheStar "Mushroom" cultivation had increased the fortune of some to the extent the were selling to Major chain stalls and exporting their products abroad.

In my small town i have heard and seen of many miraculous rags to riches stories, they weren't established corporate entities but as simple as scrap metal dealers; small estate owners; prawn farm; and even poultry sellers.

So the question is whats impossible?

chin_wan
21-08-2006, 11:51 AM
Chin Wan, don't try putting words in my mouth.
I never said more education = more money.


My apologies. I did not mean to do that.