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gunther
12-08-2006, 10:13 PM
:mad:

Sorry this is NOT related to USJ stuff but I should let u guys know if u're heading to buy products during this PIKOM fair in KLCC convention center..


Needless to say I may be jumping the gun but I believe i may have a case.

I was at the PIKOM fair today .. bought myself two USB Kingston Data traveller thumb drives.. 2 gigabytes and 1 gb each.

The drives look original..and there was a registeration number/serial number on the box... so I decided to verify the drive on the official Kingston website here..
http://www.kingston.com/asia/verifyflash/ .


To my surprise, the website replies to my email account and the product is not authenticated by Kingston.. meaning it is mostlikely a FAKE.

Reading a few links here helped me to 'verify' that is may be a fake.
http://reviews.ebay.com/BEWARE-of-FAKE-1GB-2GB-4GB-8GB-USB-Flash-Drives-on-eBay_W0QQugidZ10000000001236200?ssPageName=BUYGD:C AT:-1:SEARCH:3


I performed another test of this 2GB drive. I copied 2GB in total of mp3 files onto this drive and I could only manage to copy 880mb. Each time I try to copy more files (may it be mp3 or other types).. an error comes on to say that it can't form a new directory or some **** like that.


If this is the case.. i'm very upset if it's fake. I would probably have to go to the store which I bought the unit from and get a refund but I have to have my evidence first.


Ultimately, I'm even more upset if such FAKE products (and I don't think it's just limited to USB drives) are selling in a PIKOM fair.. how can this happen????


Will update you guys as I get more evidence etc.


Please be aware on what u buy. What looks original will turn out to be fake.

I hate this...

kwchang
12-08-2006, 10:57 PM
My sympathies Gunther. Nowadays, I just go to such fairs to browse the high tech toys. I usually have no intention to buy. I have heard enough to know better than to patronise them. If I am lucky, I get some freebie promotional material and I end up the winner. If I am seriously having an intention to buy, I usually head for my favourite 'Computer War' or on the rare occassion, go to Low Yat Plaza. My friends, no need for all these computer fairs when they have a real 'computer fair' everyday in the 2 places I mentioned.

As for the thumbdrive you bought, have you tried formatting it? You might want to download the thumbdrive's driver (if you aren't provided with the CD) and there may be an application to help you reformat the thumb drive. Good luck.

By the way, I am now very reluctant to get thumbdrives. Imagine, the current going rate is RM80-RM90 for a 1-Gigabyte thumbdrive. The other day I saw one customer pay RM210 for n external harddrive casing plus a 40 Gigabyte micro-harddrive. That external drive was just about the size of your palm. Figure that out yourself - 2.5 times the price for 40 times the capacity. My next portable memory will be these tiny external harddrives.

aimless
12-08-2006, 11:04 PM
chang, sorry to sidetrack... where is this "Computer War" you mentioned?

wufei
12-08-2006, 11:04 PM
Chang,

Portable Hdd doesnt comes handy. Thumbdrive u can put into the pocket.

For me, I never invest on thumbdrive anymore. Just want to share my experience

Now days I bought the USB thumbdrive (empty) that let me slot in my SD card in to thumbdrive. So my thumbdrive capacity is depends on the SD card and I can exchange the SD card whenever I want.

My camera use SD card too, so I can swap when ever I want

The USB converter is just exactly the size of a thumbdrive

kwchang
12-08-2006, 11:41 PM
... where is this "Computer War" you mentioned?
Jalan SS2/24. Look out for the RHB Bank at the corner next to a traffic light junction on the SS2 main road. Computer War is in the first floor at the other end of the block, above the bathroom fittings showroom. It does not have the variety of stock as in Low Yat Plaza but it sure beats having to go to Bukit Bintang. The workers are always in a hurry and reminds me of impatient arrogant HongKong retailers sometimes but if you joke with them, they lighten up. Chat them up and sometimes they will give you further discounts.

kwchang
12-08-2006, 11:49 PM
...Portable Hdd doesnt comes handy. Thumbdrive u can put into the pocket....I too have a flash card reader (not thumbdrive size though) which allows me to use my SD cards but that is also not too handy. The great thing about external microdrives is the facility it gives me to store all my personal stuff AND my office work in one mobile device. No need to lug around a notebook which is a liability as it might get stolen if I leave it unattended.

Better get back to computer fairs, the topic of this thread...

gunther
13-08-2006, 12:23 AM
I will try to get some drivers but I doubt that will work since XP has the drivers available from what I know. The drivers would probably be valid if one is using Win98.

Now the questioin comes to mind... where does one BUY ORIGINAL thumb drives then??

I will have to pursue this matter ... get a refund.

ceo684
13-08-2006, 01:48 AM
Buy with the little round Amble Action (local distributor) hologram on them. I've bought many thumbdrives and a CF card from this Wai-H company in PC fair, all OK. Are you doubly sure its not a typing error that's making it unauthentic?

bslee
13-08-2006, 02:24 AM
Thanks for the heads up. I bought a Kingston DT2/1GB last week, and just had it verified genuine item from the official website. I'm happy!
Damn!..this one IS fast!...comparable to Sandisk Cruzer.

At Low Yat Net there recently was a bulk sales for a 8GB Kingston DT. It WAS a scam and the posting duly shut down!.
There's NO mention of a Kingston 8GB model. Sigh, too many fakes nowadays!..rechargable batteries included.

gunther
13-08-2006, 10:29 AM
Hey guys..

I've re-verified my thumb drive and it seems that it's an ORIGINAL after all.

I do apologise if I seems to be jumping the gun earlier that my USB drive was fake... but you can never be too sure.

So my 2Gb was autenticated after all as original. I still had a problem when I couldn't copy more that 880Mb... but that was solved when I reformated the usb drive as FAT32... not just FAT.

Solved the problem.

But here are my tips to find out whether the drive is original... try copy a large file (almost to the capacity of the drive) and see whether there is a problem.

Again... :) i do apologise if I jumped the gun abit too fast to claim my drive was not original. Hehe...

Thanks for reading ..

:D :D :D :D

silver_bird
13-08-2006, 11:36 AM
Gunther,
Apologising your mistake is one thing BUT creating an alarm & making a false claim is a serious mistake especially accusing fake stuff being sold at PIKOM PC Fair presently held at KLCC Convention Hall. Ppl who had read your accusation earlier may not be around to read your correction. Please do you home-work thoroughly in future !!!

lbn
13-08-2006, 11:50 AM
I get my PC fix in Computer War as mentiontioned by Chang. Wide selections and prices reasonable. Bring your CPU along and they'll install what you purchase for free. Tel: 03-78776198 :)

TiNKeRFY
13-08-2006, 11:57 AM
btw, someone has read this and had posted the "warning" in Lowyat.net (post #8) (http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=326150&st=0)

silver_bird
13-08-2006, 01:14 PM
TiNKeRFY
btw, someone has read this and had posted the "warning" in Lowyat.net (post #8)

It'll of service if Gunther could clear that inaccurate posting.

gunther
13-08-2006, 07:58 PM
As i said before .. I would like to apologise for my mistake and please accept it.


Needless to say, it is still possibe that USB fakes drives exists as what I have read here ... "The fake flash drives are usually shipped out from ASIA especially from China, Hong Kong, Korea or Singapore, and they are also listed on Australian, UK, USA and European's eBay"
http://reviews.ebay.com.au/Beware-of-FAKE-1GB-2GB-4GB-8GB-USB-Flash-Drives-on-eBay_W0QQugidZ10000000000706427
But it is unlikely that PIKOM will have USB fakes drives.

That's all I can say. Thanks.

All in all.. I'm only human..not perfect and I have made a mistake.

Thanks for reading. Will not post anymore at all. good night.

jianwei85
13-08-2006, 10:12 PM
Hey Gunther!
to err is human..

well, u admit it was your error..jz keep the forumers updated ya?
n dun stop posting jz because of some minor issues.. :)

drewkool
14-08-2006, 07:55 AM
I'd like to clarify another point stated by gun.

gun, u said you bought 2 pendrives with each 1gb & u cant seem to utilise max of the capacity.

a common sense in IT storage world. when it says 1gb storage space on pendrive, or 80gb storage space in hardisk, or X space in X storage devices, it means the space is closest to the stated amount.

The actual space will always lesser than the stated one, a common sense in IT storage world.

clfoo
22-08-2006, 12:21 AM
fake pendrive do exist .. if u think u got a very good deal not necessary bcos your luck is good ... see pic below

chin_wan
22-08-2006, 07:04 AM
Sorry to hear about your ordeal. At least the drive still works and you got a hella deal. Only thing was that they conned you of a brand name. Instead of Kingston, it's a Kinston. :)

atom
22-08-2006, 05:21 PM
...The other day I saw one customer pay RM210 for n external harddrive casing plus a 40 Gigabyte micro-harddrive. That external drive was just about the size of your palm..

Hi, Chang,
Sorry I am not up to date with this external harddrive thing. I, like many others, was wondering why they don't make a harddrive as small as a thumb drive that can slip into our pocket ? (That will definitely nailed the thumb drive dead, right?) Why is a need of having an external casing? Why couldn't the manufacturer make a plug-n-play micro-harddrive? You mentioned the external drive was just about the size of our palm, did you mean the casing (with the drive inside)? That means the micro-harddrive is much smaller than our palm? Sorry for too many why(s), please help to brush up my PC knowledge.

kwchang
22-08-2006, 07:44 PM
Just a quick reply...
The casing is needed because it offers some protection - remember drives have circuit boards exposed on their bases. And the casing also carries an interface for the USB cable to the PC. By the way, it is slightly bigger than the palm....unless you have Bigfoot's hands :)

As for thumbdrive sized microdrives - didn't you see the small adverts in the papers? I believe they are micro-harddisk-drives.

Like I said, only a quick reply. I may be wrong on the facts. Those who know should clarify

CCY
22-08-2006, 09:33 PM
First and foremost, micro hardrive and thumbdrive are 2 entirely different format to store data.

Micro hardrive uses the same methode as you normal hardrive , that is mechanical in nature, they store data on rotating magnetic disk with slow unlimited read n write life cycle.

Thumbdrive uses semiconductor flash memory , which have about one million full read n write cycle life only. Read from flash memory or thumbdrive is unlimited and fast , typically less that 100 nano second per byte. That is more than a thousand times faster read than a micro hardrive. The only limit is presented by the USB interface logic.

Another good feature of thumbdrive is that you can practically drop it down from the twin tower onto the tarmac, pick it up , if can plug it in , it will still work. Try that with a micro drive from you first floor , it would likely be a bye bye.

elan
22-08-2006, 11:42 PM
dude.. try contact back the seller or right click the drive at your my computer there. and see its capacity , try reformating and install the drive , and make sure your windows or os is up-to-date . currently windows xp(oldest version w/o service pack) cant read drive wit high capacity

ceo684
23-08-2006, 01:51 AM
fake pendrive do exist .. if u think u got a very good deal not necessary bcos your luck is good ... see pic below

That's an old joke with the casing of a D-Link USB wifi adapter :p

ceo684
23-08-2006, 01:53 AM
I'd like to clarify another point stated by gun.

gun, u said you bought 2 pendrives with each 1gb & u cant seem to utilise max of the capacity.

a common sense in IT storage world. when it says 1gb storage space on pendrive, or 80gb storage space in hardisk, or X space in X storage devices, it means the space is closest to the stated amount.

The actual space will always lesser than the stated one, a common sense in IT storage world.

That's because real usage and marketing usage of the KB/GB is real world 1KB=1024 bytes and marketing 1KB=1000 bytes

bcteh
23-08-2006, 06:35 PM
That's because real usage and marketing usage of the KB/GB is real world 1KB=1024 bytes and marketing 1KB=1000 bytes

I can tell you that thumbdrive is not a reliable data solution.

Some times I give error, or data lost.

Better buy external hard disk.

pcyeoh
24-08-2006, 08:47 AM
Do you know that the thumb drive is invented by a Malaysian who is in Taiwan? I read it in the papers about 6 months ago.

DatinLawa
24-08-2006, 09:49 AM
Do you know that the thumb drive is invented by a Malaysian who is in Taiwan? I read it in the papers about 6 months ago.

read about that, was really amazed too... :cool:

here's the story: http://www.allmalaysia.info/news/story.asp?file=/2006/2/6/msiansabroad/12940731&sec=mi_msiansabroad