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flowi
03-08-2006, 10:14 AM
Hi all, lets see if i can get some help from you people. I need a PDA phone urgently and I am spoilt of choices!!! Here's the scenario:
1. Currently having Nokia 9500 and need to spend over RM800 to fix the cover, speaker and keyboard. I dropped it too many time!

2. Its a compulsory to have the calendar feature

3. Contact list is important in my work and personal life

4. Budget not more than RM2500 for a new set

please help!!!
thanks y'all in advance
peace!

tupai
03-08-2006, 10:26 AM
flowi...learn from me the Blur One.
Like you, i was spoilt for choice and have a similar budget too...It took me like what 9months and many forumers' POV, suggestions etc to narrow it down to...
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arcatel RM299.00 'mickey mouse' phone with calendar, contact listing, sms in&out. :p
I have dropped & retrieved it countless times.
I have misplaced/lost and lo&behold!...returned to me twice :D once in a pub and the other in Kulim R&R stop.hahhahhaa...nobody wants a mickey mouse no-class phone :D :D

Am I happy? Ok, lets say 6 outta 10 lah.

Yang Ada Bimbit elcheapo lato tupai

isarahim
03-08-2006, 10:26 AM
With those requirements - unless the hype factor is important - you can get the predecessor, Nokia 9210i, for less than RM 800 now.

The 9210i has better keyboard than the 9500, and Contacts and Agenda are the same.

I still keep my 9210i solely because it has the best conferencing feature of all phones. Loud and clear.

It is also file compatible with the 9500...

lynndhia
03-08-2006, 12:02 PM
Do you want a PDA phone which works on Windows Mobile or Symbian OS? Do you want wi-fi connectivity with it?

There's a new Nokia PDA phone in the market that uses Symbian OS. It's the new 6708 which can even recognise handwriting. But no wi-fi.

If not there's always the O2 atom which runs on Windows Mobile which has wi-fi as well. I am personally using this right now, and it's the updated/upgraded version so it hardly ever hangs. It hasn't given me any problems so far for the last 2 months. But the stylus is real filmsy lah.

Both phones have all the features that you need, plus it meets your budget requirement.

Have a look of the 6708 here (http://www.mobile-review.com/phonemodels/nokia/nokia-6708-en.shtml)

And the mighty atom here (http://www.seeo2.com/product/XdaAtom/template/Product.vm)

There's a program called magic button and i highly recommend it to anyone using PDA with Windows Mobile. It automatically closes the program after you click on the 'x'. There is no need to go to the system tab and close the running programmes thru the memory.

drewkool
03-08-2006, 12:18 PM
i bought O2 XDA some years ago, regretted it as i wasn't sure i want a phone or pda or that i didnt not think about the maintenance most importantly.

If you want a phone, buy a phone @ RM 1.4k you'll get big time good quality cell phone eg. w800i. If you want a PDA @ 1k you'll get big time good quality PDA eg. HP. If you want PDA phone @ 2.4k, performance wise is not what you can get to buy seperately.

Talking about maintenance, i dropped my pda phone once & the screen caused me RM500 to add on to the cost of pda phone itself. Expect this bro!!

If you seriously looking into pda phone, i suggest to try O2. http://www.seeo2.com/web/template/Region.vm/region/my/lang/EN

palmdoc
03-08-2006, 12:26 PM
Best PDA Phone for Contact management and Calendering is the Treo650 + Agendus Pro (from Iambic (http://www.iambic.com)). Trust me, I'm a doctor and I rely on it heavily.
Cost under 2200
Great battery life
Huge range of PalmOS software
Quite stable firmware, rarely hangs
Uses non-volatile Ram - so you don't lose your precious Contact data even if you run out of batery juice

Check out my Palm Blog http://palmdoc.net

I have tried out the expensive WM PDA phones like the Dopod 838 etc and they don't come close to superb PIM management the Palm Treo offers. They are more sluggish by comparison.

If you want SYmbian may I suggest the Nokia E61. Agendus Pro also runs on Symbian.

Cheers

tupai
03-08-2006, 12:44 PM
guys, what about the new sony erickson (TRsomehting?) 2meg cam phone? or the Nokia 2meg camphone? maybe even better if the cam meg is higher.

I really do need a 'decent' phone with camera for spy shots (in my line of work :p

Sorry if I micky-moused the reply in my earlier post :(

Yang Ada Bimbit elcheapo & no cam lato tupai

flowi
03-08-2006, 02:21 PM
Firstly, this forum is the best i've ever participated!! Don't expect a lot when i posted this subject and considering the feedback ... you guys make me a proud member of this forum. Will not hesitate to post and ask for more nasihat!
I need the Windows apps and as for the OS, its ok .. symbian or any of its kind. Sony ericsson's M600i (not sure) looks ok but need to check it out this weekend.

So, I thinkthe O2 atom and Treo will be a good buy. Few of my friends also using it. Kinda sad to part with my Nokia 9500 coz its so user friendly and if the maintenance is not that high, i would have invest in another set.
Okie, thanks a lot people! THANK YOU

chin_wan
04-08-2006, 08:37 AM
I am using Motorola A1000 http://www.motorola.com/motoinfo/product/details.jsp?globalObjectId=40

It cost RM2000 and it is 3G enabled. Awesome feature for such a small price. :)

Spanker
04-08-2006, 02:48 PM
better to get a windows mobile Pocket PC, the symbian PDAs don't really have a lot of softwares and don't sync well with your PC.

If budget below RM2000 then it's probably going to have to be an O2 Xda II Mini or an ETEN.

arbiter
04-08-2006, 03:15 PM
I'll put my money on Nokia E70, package with WiFi & 3G, for not more than RM2k! The phone can act as a modem, meaning you could connect your notebook to 3G network via E70 and surf or download emails. The interface is not the same as 9500 but i believe you should not have any problem getting use to it. E70 has a built in foldable keyboard, T9 text input from front panel (which is not available in 9500 & 9300 and in addition, a vibrator! 9500, 9300 & 9300i users would appreciate this feature, right? BUT, take note on this, E70 is based on S60 platform 3rd Edition and therefore no short cut features (crtl key) are available. S60 3rd Edition runs efficiently and lesser power consumption, meaning longer talk time. With additional, 2.0 megapixel camera, PushToTalk etc....check out yourself from nokia web.

Hope these help for you to choose the right PDA phone.

isarahim
04-08-2006, 03:20 PM
better to get a windows mobile Pocket PC, the symbian PDAs don't really have a lot of softwares and don't sync well with your PC.
My personal experience is that Symbian based phones are vastly superior to Windows Mobile, even with regards to syncing. Symbian also give 2-3 times the battery life compared to WM. WM phones only sync well with Outlook. But Outlook is unstable, prone to data loss, and very vulnerable to virus. IF you - like so many people today - are fed up with Outlook and want to change to Foxmail or Thunderbird, Windows Mobile is a no-no. Same if you're on Mac or Linux.

Symbian has at least as much softwares as Windows Mobile. In fact I think it runs circles around WM today in terms of 3rd party support. Symbian had bad application support back in Psion days when Psion was the only promoter. But now with Sony, Ericsson, Nokia, Fujitsu, Motorola, BenQ, LG, Samsung etc etc having Symbian phones, this is a completely different story.

isarahim
04-08-2006, 03:23 PM
I am using Motorola A1000
I agree. Motorola A1000 is a Symbian phone with one of the best 'bangs for the bucks' around.


Ok, lah today I'm a gadget fanatic....... :D

arbiter
04-08-2006, 03:32 PM
My personal experience is that Symbian based phones are vastly superior to Windows Mobile, even with regards to syncing. Symbian also give 2-3 times the battery life compared to WM. WM phones only sync well with Outlook. But Outlook is unstable, prone to data loss, and very vulnerable to virus. IF you - like so many people today - are fed up with Outlook and want to change to Foxmail or Thunderbird, Windows Mobile is a no-no. Same if you're on Mac or Linux.

Symbian has at least as much softwares as Windows Mobile. In fact I think it runs circles around WM today in terms of 3rd party support. Symbian had bad application support back in Psion days when Psion was the only promoter. But now with Sony, Ericsson, Nokia, Fujitsu, Motorola, BenQ, LG, Samsung etc etc having Symbian phones, this is a completely different story.

Me also a BIG NO NO to Windows Mobile, irregardless of which version! WM has some minor incompatibility issues with GSM platform, such as certain command lines could not be executed. BUT WM is superb for your syncronization speed and perhaps multiple windows.

Harmony
04-08-2006, 03:48 PM
I find that the volume on O2 is too soft - even at maximum setting. Or...Maybe my hearing is deteriorating???... :p

I prefer my old P900 Sony Ericsson, unless anyone wants upgrade his/her P910 and sell it to me at rock-bottom price... :D

But do test that out, yourself.
And Good Luck!! Hope you'll get the set that you are pleased with

stanleywkh
04-08-2006, 04:03 PM
U can check out the Dopod 818Pro and the new iPAQ hw 6828 and 6818. Very nice woh. Got everything u want.

flowi
05-08-2006, 10:10 PM
Hi All, thanks for the feedback .... currently in Perhentian Long Beach .... Darn boring coz the weather during the day time is so sunny and the sea breeze is making me sleepy!! He he he .......

Looks like I am really spoilt with choices and gonna take longer time to decide in which PDA phone to invest. Saw the HP Ipaq and its not a bad looking phone!

Will update y'all with my latest finding.
cheers ...

CS Chua
06-08-2006, 10:54 AM
I think there are more advantages when having separates. I thought long about it before deciding to get a PDA and a handphone. I have no regrets. My pda is also like a mini notebook as it has wifi. I used it to check emails, make phone calls via Skype and take notes during conferences using the portable keyboard. It can also present power points. Heck, my notebook is sitting at home more than ever now.

isarahim
06-08-2006, 10:57 AM
Saw the HP Ipaq and its not a bad looking phone!
Just make sure you purchase 2 spare batteries with it and a car charger ... ;)

CS Chua
06-08-2006, 11:10 AM
Just make sure you purchase 2 spare batteries with it and a car charger ... ;)
That was my main deterrent. The PDA phones that I checked out last year cannot last for long as their batteries cannot handle the whole day's work. Users have to resort to all kinds of ways to prolong the battery. Perhaps it has improved sufficiently to last for 3 full days without a charge, can it? Technology are moving so fast nowadays.

palmdoc
06-08-2006, 11:04 PM
Well with my Treo650 and fairly heavy day's use, I still end up with about 60-70% charge - definitely will last more than a day with the standard battery
I hear the HP PDA phones battery aren't very good...

isarahim
07-08-2006, 07:52 AM
Perhaps it has improved sufficiently to last for 3 full days without a charge, can it? Technology are moving so fast nowadays.
It does, but I think radio technology moves much faster than battery technology.

First, the number or radios is steadiliy increasing. The original handphones only had one radio, the cellular GSM radio! Then came Bluetooth, i.e. 2 radios!! Now some phones have WiFi, GSM and Bluetooth, that's 3 radios!!! Nokia and some of the other heavyweights are already talking about Near Field Communication (NFC). That's 4 radios!!!! Within 3-5 years, WiMAX modems might become sufficiently small to fit into some high-end phones. That's 5 radios!!!!! Some industrial PDAs might have built in ZigBee. That's 6 radios!!!!!! So the pressure on the battery becomes increasingly severe.

Second, the OS factor appears never to change. A Windows phone/PDA (doesn't matter which flavour: WinCE, Pocket PC, Windows Mobile) still consumes 2-3 times the energy compared to a Symbian or Palm OS machine, given the same set of hardware parameters. (I don't know about Linux, there are so few such phones around).

The old Psion 5mx (= Ericsson MC218) is still my favourite workhorse PDA. It can last for 2 weeks (!!!!) on one set of good 2 x AA batteries, e.g. Energizer. With cheap rechargeable AAs, e.g. GrandCell, this drops to about 6 days, still very good. Why? Because it runs extremely energy prudent Symbian OS and does not have any radios at all!

flowi
07-08-2006, 10:21 AM
Hmm, I'm a heavy user on bothe PDA and phone! U guys are so good in gadgets!! I might as well invest in an extra batt if i go with HP Ipaq or just settle with the Treo. Go over to Low Yatt later in the day to check out some external hard disk and also the phones and PDAs. Hopefully can gather the guts to invest in one on the spot. Hate carrying 2 phones now ..looks like a pimp!
Thanks y'all and PEACE!