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robertec
25-07-2006, 02:21 PM
There is an initiative to start a

Subang Jaya / USJ Community SMS Crime Alert.

In order that this really becomes a Community Project, would appreciate very much your individual input on the proposal.

Here are some of the basic guidelines

1. Available only to Subang Jaya and USJ Residents (with valid home addresses)
2. A small one time fee will be charged upon registration so that only residents who are genuinely interested need apply.
3. Service will be provided free, subject to members’ willingness to receive Promotional Messages (these will in the end be paying for all the free SMSs)
4. This is a 100% non-profit organisation.
5. This initiative will be run by a group of committed Community Leaders spearhead by our own OrchiPD working closely with the Police.

There are the usual rules and regulations bla..bla..bla…

We would need a unique Sender ID of not more than 11 characters including ‘space’ to identify messages send from this Community Server.

Important thing here is, are you receptive to it? Do you foresee problems in the future?
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pcyeoh
25-07-2006, 02:39 PM
We could not have chosen a better person than our Orchi as the OCPD of SJ/USJ . His Sender IDname is definitely very unique.

OrChiPD

tupai
25-07-2006, 02:52 PM
[QUOTE=robertec]...Important thing here is, are you receptive to it? Do you foresee problems in the future?
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Yes, good initiative indeed.
The only negative I can see is that since this is a free service (after paying 'small' reg fee :o , then our mobile numbers will be used as a very marketeable data base, for the service provider, to sell to each & every commercial outfit. Subjecting us with SMS offers from Frozen chicken livers to zero-interest massaging toilet seat...

Its is nothing more irritating than to receive a few sms within the hour (while you are in a meeting or discussion) and the sms maybe ;) : "Free toe-theraphy for every 45min body massage by young filipino masseur" :D or "join the first poledancing fitness club. Zero registration... :p You get the picture.
(maxis did that and got blasted all the way to the ceo...and have since stopped selling the 012 ...they stopped selling mine anyway :D

So, guys, if the service provider can GUARANTEE that we won't solicited unnecessary..and I can sue them for intrusion of privacy and unsolicited junks for breach of agreement...then I am all for it.

Yang Amat Bersokong with conditions lato tupai

ericchan
25-07-2006, 03:27 PM
In my opinion we need immediate help of the police kind not sms to fellow friends.. waste of time. Time is an important factor. So a special police hotline nomber for SJ /USJ residents should be availed. This i would say could be more effective and beneficial...hoping that they come immediately on a sos call.

pcyeoh
25-07-2006, 04:36 PM
I don't think Robert mean smsing the police while or after being robbed. No, he is not asking us to sms the police asking for help "Tollllooong, Toollllooong saayya sakkarrang kkkkena diiirrooompak. Hantttaar pooolice ke sayyyya pppunya condom ...... F&*# how to spell to spell condominuim in bahasa"

This sms service is to alert people on some crime situation happening and the latest tips whenever the criminals change their modus operandi.

shamalasp
25-07-2006, 05:19 PM
I think it is a brilliant initiative!

silver_bird
25-07-2006, 06:19 PM
Using SMS to Fight Crime :-
http://www.mobileactive.org/sms_crime
Police Dept sending out text messages and emails to tell residents about crimes happening in their neighborhoods. The goal isn’t to instill fear in residents; it’s to get them involved in solving crimes. Police think that this system will make it easier for people to send in leads on cases since they can do so quickly and electronically, and that it will put more people on the lookout for suspects when they’re most vulnerable – soon after they commit crimes. The alerts also keep people better informed on the specific crimes happening in their neighborhoods, enabling them to better protect themselves. Most people are more inclined to lock their car doors if they know that two cars have been stolen within a few minutes of where they park.

kwchang
25-07-2006, 06:29 PM
I have an aversion to SPAM - sound silly to have to agree to it.

I am suspicious of any advert being delivered to my phone. If there is an indication on the frequency of adverts, maybe I will consider. For example, I can tolerate the few adverts coming from my telco.

tan_r
25-07-2006, 08:50 PM
Have a look at this url (http://www.dowire.org/notes/?p=241) and see what we can adopt from there.

mon
25-07-2006, 09:08 PM
I will not hesitate to give my full support for this project (lives could be saved thru this). Getting the latest tips on crime happenings in our areas will be very helpful, altho someone is already doing that at his own expense.

My only quibble is spam tho'. But if they're promotional smses to raise up funds for this ongoing sms thing, then I can tolerate it I guess.

FineTuned
25-07-2006, 09:49 PM
I have an aversion to SPAM - sound silly to have to agree to it.
I am suspicious of any advert being delivered to my phone. If there is an indication on the frequency of adverts, maybe I will consider. For example, I can tolerate the few adverts coming from my telco.


My only quibble is spam tho'. But if they're promotional smses to raise up funds for this ongoing sms thing, then I can tolerate it I guess.
I am in FULL (100%) agreement with you ppl on this.

If there is an assurance the ads won't be nonsensical and can be kept to a agreed limit per day, then I guess I don't mind indulging in some finger exercises with the delete key every now and then. It's a worthy trade off for some additional peace of mind and info that could save me and my family (being selfish here) from some terrible event.

As for the database being secretly sold off to other parties, that's an unavoidable risk everytime we sign up for some service.......

kwchang
25-07-2006, 10:49 PM
Actually, if some company other than the USJ-SMS number sends SPAM, we can always reply to the unknown number with 'STOP' in our reply message and stop the SPAM. Just don't stop the USJ-SMS service.

Orchi / Robert should assure potential subscribers with regards the frequency of adverts.

swee_ann_tweety
25-07-2006, 11:44 PM
One problem that I forsee is that there are some "not permanent" residents in SJ/USJ. They may join in the program initially and when they move house, they will still be receiving alerts, etc. This may be annoying.

So, there must be some sort of way to "register" / "deregister" in this program you are introducing

orchipalar
26-07-2006, 01:29 AM
There is an initiative to start a

Subang Jaya / USJ Community SMS Crime Alert.

In order that this really becomes a Community Project, would appreciate very much your individual input on the proposal.

There are the usual rules and regulations bla..bla..bla…

We would need a unique Sender ID of not more than 11 characters including ‘space’ to identify messages send from this Community Server.

Important thing here is, are you receptive to it? Do you foresee problems in the future?Err...dear Frens:)...from the initial suggestions...brief sideline discussions between various concerned parties during the recent Dialogue with Police held on Sunday...bla bla bla...n further to the 1st meeting held last night...amongst the small group of 'voluntary' committee members...comprising of...

PCYeoh
Melvin
Raymond Tan
Robert Chan
EileenC
Orchi
Vacant
Vacant

...we have discussed n more or less decided on a couple of things...from the list of preparations...among others which are to be carried out...for the implementation of this Community SMS Crime Alert Initiative... as soon as possible.

1. Sender ID - "SJ ALERTS"
2. SMS gateway service provider - mobileACE
3. Meeting/Liaison with Police
4. Fundings/Promotions/related community services
5. formulating Subscription/Operations/Guidelines-Policy n Etiquette etc. etc.

Note: 2 or more vacancies are open to any representative residents of Usj/Subang Jaya...who has internet access preferably both from office n home...

Err...is there any more volunteers in the house...???

Teeque
26-07-2006, 05:48 AM
Free sms services on the net might give an idea how it works. Some may not be reliable. Check this site out (http://www.email2sms.ru/sms.php).

Or this. (http://www.webportal.com.my/sms/)

shamalasp
26-07-2006, 07:31 AM
Hello all,
I have good internet connection both when I am home and at the office.
I sometimes travel on work. If it is acceptable that I am sometimes away for a few days , I am happy to volunteer in whatever way I can.

mon
26-07-2006, 11:30 AM
Great job going!

I'm willing to assist and help out too, in any way possible.

orchipalar
26-07-2006, 11:47 AM
Err...on behalf of the "SJ ALERTS" action committee group...we wanna welcome the voluntary participation of Mr. Teoh Teik Hoong of SS14 as a committee member...who is currently involved in the relevant community service to residents of Subang Jaya...also.

PCYeoh
Melvin
Raymond Tan
Robert Chan
EileenC
Orchi
Teoh Teik Hoong
Vacant

A special thanks to all those that are coming forward in support of this initiative...n to spread the awareness to as many residents n frens in Subang Jaya/USJ...in the path n process of making this a true community service project...:)

robertec
26-07-2006, 12:27 PM
Actually, if some company other than the USJ-SMS number sends SPAM, we can always reply to the unknown number with 'STOP' in our reply message and stop the SPAM. Just don't stop the USJ-SMS service.

Orchi / Robert should assure potential subscribers with regards the frequency of adverts.

Thanks for the various comments; at least we now know that the main concern is actually about the promotional adverts (not what you call spam)

Promotional Adverts
I would like to reiterate that this is a 100% non-profit organisation, so long as revenues generated are sufficient to fund it’s continued operations, we will not go out of our way to solicit for additional advertisers. (Here is something for you to think about, if we have sufficient sustainable funding from Residents, we could even do away with advertising altogether, the choice is yours)

The SJ Alert Committee Members are in total control of the frequency, timing and type of promotional adverts. Adverts will be vetted and agreed to by all Committee Members before they are approved for circulation.

The problem with getting 3 promotional messages within an hour would never arise, and do you honestly believe that messages like “Free toe-theraphy for every 45min body massage by young filipino masseur” would ever be accepted?

But, if the database becomes very big, say 10,000 contacts, it would mean a tremendous strain financially each time we send out Community information. So you do the math. The only assurance we can offer is that the frequency and types of Promotional Adverts will be beneficial to the Community and moderated.

By the way, from initial indications, we already have more than 1,000 households from the Neighbourhood Watch Groups ready to sign on as members.

Making our database available to others
Look at the members in the Committee; I don’t think we will be into secretly selling our database to other parties for personal gain. It is avoidable and it will never happen.

Activation and deactivation of this service
This service is provided to Residents of SJ/USJ free, you can activate it by just signing up. Should you find that the service is useless and serves no purpose, you can just as easily deactivate it by sending us your instructions. It’s that simple.

Call the Police if you need quick response
We are just trying to empower SJ/USJ Residents with additional information about their Community, now how could that be a waste of time?
If you not aware of the numbers to the Police, let me know and I will offer them all to you. What special Police Hotline? Is the direct Mobile Numbers to the Chief Inspectors of the various Balais in SJ/USJ Hot enough?

Please continue to voice your concerns and comments so that we can incorporate them into our rules and regulations as we draw them up, before the actual launch of this Service.
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clutz4words
26-07-2006, 12:56 PM
Err...on behalf of the "SJ ALERTS" action committee group...we wanna welcome the voluntary participation of Mr. Teoh Teik Hoong of SS14 as a committee member...who is currently involved in the relevant community service to residents of Subang Jaya...also.

PCYeoh
Melvin
Raymond Tan
Robert Chan
EileenC
Orchi
Teoh Teik Hoong
Vacant

A special thanks to all those that are coming forward in support of this initiative...n to spread the awareness to as many residents n frens in Subang Jaya/USJ...in the path n process of making this a true community service project...:)

If u don mind my participation cos i'm handicapped at home(no internet connections), but if not i would like to participate.

orchipalar
26-07-2006, 05:42 PM
Err...here are a list of possible types of alerts...which could be included n broadcasted...

1. Crime alerts of incidents happening in Sj/USJ/Putra Heights/Sunway.
2. Missing person alert.
3. Stolen vehicles alert.
4. Emergency alerts like fire.
5. Power outage n Water supply interruption.
6. Blood donation drive/emergency response.
7. Community sports events n other community related announcements.
8. Promotions

Ahem...anyone wanna suggest any other types of alerts which could be considered for broadcasts...?? TQ:)

castlegard
27-07-2006, 12:24 AM
I would like to subscribe to the SMS alert. My family and I need to be aware of the good or bad things happening in this community.

Thank you.

CG

robertec
27-07-2006, 10:04 AM
Err...here are a list of possible types of alerts...which could be included n broadcasted...


1. Crime alerts of incidents happening in Sj/USJ/Putra Heights/Sunway.
2. Missing person alert.
3. Stolen vehicles alert.
4. Emergency alerts like fire.
5. Power outage n Water supply interruption.
6. Blood donation drive/emergency response.
7. Community sports events n other community related announcements.
8. Promotions
9. Weekly report of crime around SJ/USJ (Direct from the Police)

charis14
27-07-2006, 10:21 AM
I would like to subscribe to the SMS alert. My family and I need to be aware of the good or bad things happening in this community...Count me in too. Arigato.

tupai
27-07-2006, 10:46 AM
1. Crime alerts of incidents happening in Sj/USJ/Putra Heights/Sunway.
2. Missing person alert.
3. Stolen vehicles alert.
4. Emergency alerts like fire.
5. Power outage n Water supply interruption.
6. Blood donation drive/emergency response.
7. Community sports events n other community related announcements.
8. Promotions
9. Weekly report of crime around SJ/USJ (Direct from the Police)

Other than crime alert. Can we also have a 'Shame On You' for being a terrible driver/biker/road user endangering others' lives?

I am for this SJ Alert program.

Yang Amat Bersatu dgn SJ lato tupai

yvc
27-07-2006, 12:10 PM
Count me in too. Arigato.


>>>> Me too Me too......Crime alert team / Crime prevention or action team ...... I fully sokong. Count me in pls. I think I'm oledi in Orchi's list for crime alert. We need more young blood to get involve on such things. Just my opinion, correct me if i'm wrong.

Cheers

girl2
27-07-2006, 02:31 PM
Great to see that people care enough to be proactive to do something to protect their neighbourhood instead of just waiting for the relevant authorities. Keep up the good effort! Maybe I should move to USJ too.

orchipalar
27-07-2006, 07:27 PM
Err...just to inform that Orchi would be transfering the existing list of contacts that Orchi has been gathering since...to the NEW "SJ ALERT" Community SMS Crime Alert service.

Ahem...there are hundreds of them...so please be patient as Orchi is getting on along with it...

Err...for those from here that wishes to subscribe to this community programme...kindly continue to drop a Private Message to Orchi...stating your name n phone nos....n Orchi shall response by providing Orchi's vital statistics to you as well...in case you need to contact Orchi in any emergency situations...

IF you wish for your family members...neighbours or friends whom are also living in SJ/USJ/Putra Heights/Sunway...to get the SMS alerts from this community programme...please include their contact names n nos. to Orchi as well...

Thanking you all for your generous support n cooperation... :)

Ahem...beware n be safe...n please spread the awareness around...precious lives could be saved!

mon
27-07-2006, 07:40 PM
Great to see that people care enough to be proactive to do something to protect their neighbourhood instead of just waiting for the relevant authorities. Keep up the good effort! Maybe I should move to USJ too.

Perhaps you should. :) I believe the police are putting more efforts and helping us in any way they can to nab those handful of crooks. And on top of that, having our own team of leaders running the extra mile for us, and now with this sms thingy, I'm too sure that one day very soon, those crooks' luck will run out and they'll be very sorry.

USJ is the best place for me, I hope you would love it here too.

concern!!!
27-07-2006, 11:24 PM
great job !!
orchi ..i can help.. internet 24hours on... taking ur order sir.. :)

orchipalar
28-07-2006, 09:25 AM
great job !!
orchi ..i can help.. internet 24hours on... taking ur order sir.. :)Err...TQ dear Concern:)...you could begin by sending your details in a PM to Orchi ya...like what others are doing currently...:)

robertec
28-07-2006, 04:11 PM
We are going to start doing some Beta Testing of the SJ Alert SMS System.

This is how it works :

When an SMS is sent to Members from our servers, an email is also send as a followup. This is to ensure that should your Mobile Phone be switched off for whatever reason, you will still get an email of the original message sent. It also authenticates that the messages are indeed from our server.

The Sender ID will read : SJ Alert

Please note that you will not be able to make a reply back to this Sender ID

For those of you who are already on Orchi’s personal list be kind souls and SMS to him your email address and also the Precinct where you live. i.e. USJ2, SS17, USJ5 etc… this will ease sorting out the expected large number of members that we will have

Thanks
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orchipalar
28-07-2006, 09:17 PM
We are going to start doing some Beta Testing of the SJ Alert SMS System.
The Sender ID will read : SJ Alert

Please note that you will not be able to make a reply back to this Sender ID

For those of you who are already on Orchi’s personal list be kind souls and SMS to him your email address and also the Precinct where you live. i.e. USJ2, SS17, USJ5 etc… this will ease sorting out the expected large number of members that we will haveErr...Orchi wishes to highlight the fact that...everytime the members received the SMS alert...though you may wanna "forward" it to others with good intentions...eventually the SENDER ID would reflect on the actual person(s)...who's forwarding the SMS alerts around...n it could be tersebar...n broadcasted to "everywhere" within a short period of time...or it could even be broadcasted within months...or years down the road...after the incident took place...initially.

Ahem...or it might even take a round trip nationwide...to reach back to this very community...err...imagine the confusions...complications...or even the negative implications which may arise...from such simple practice of "forwarding"...

or lets just say...during its journey a bit of sauce or spices could have been added to alter the SMS's original content....to others whom may NOT be from this community to begin with...! :eek:

Err so please...if anyone feels that this Community "SJ ALERT" SMS service...should benefit your other friends...neighbours or relatives...living in SJ/USJ/Sunway/Putra Heights areas exclusively...KINDLY provide us with their details...email addresses n contact nos...so as they too could receive the original messages...on time n accurately...TQ:)

castlegard
31-07-2006, 08:04 PM
Err...Orchi wishes to highlight the fact that...everytime the members received the SMS alert...though you may wanna "forward" it to others with good intentions...eventually the SENDER ID would reflect on the actual person(s)...who's forwarding the SMS alerts around...n it could be tersebar...n broadcasted to "everywhere" within a short period of time...or it could even be broadcasted within months...or years down the road...after the incident took place...initially.

Ahem...or it might even take a round trip nationwide...to reach back to this very community...err...imagine the confusions...complications...or even the negative implications which may arise...from such simple practice of "forwarding"...

or lets just say...during its journey a bit of sauce or spices could have been added to alter the SMS's original content....to others whom may NOT be from this community to begin with...! :eek:

Err so please...if anyone feels that this Community "SJ ALERT" SMS service...should benefit your other friends...neighbours or relatives...living in SJ/USJ/Sunway/Putra Heights areas exclusively...KINDLY provide us with their details...email addresses n contact nos...so as they too could receive the original messages...on time n accurately...TQ:)
As I believe the scums are still at large, can I know how soon the test will be carried out? You are right about the 'forwarding' implications. I have pmed you more names of relatives and neighbours in our areas. Keep up the good job.

regards
CG

orchipalar
02-08-2006, 01:16 AM
As I believe the scums are still at large, can I know how soon the test will be carried out? You are right about the 'forwarding' implications. I have pmed you more names of relatives and neighbours in our areas. Keep up the good job. regards CGErr...thank you CG:)...for the support...besides the names...kindly remember to include the phone nos...locality n email addresses if available...

Eg.: 018 3456789...Usj99 John Wayne...legend@wildfrontier.com

The action committee met again for a brain storming session on 31st July...n we agree that certain measures are to be inplaced...before the soon to be launched of such service...to eliminate if possible or to minimize the possibility which may arise...that the community service could be misunderstood despite all it's good intentions n purposes...

orchipalar
02-08-2006, 12:53 PM
Great to see that people care enough to be proactive to do something to protect their neighbourhood instead of just waiting for the relevant authorities. Keep up the good effort! Maybe I should move to USJ too.Err...you are most welcome!...that's the positive attitude...which everyone should possess in troubled times.:)

tupai
02-08-2006, 01:05 PM
Err...you are most welcome!...that's the positive attitude...which everyone should possess in troubled times.:)

oooiii! bro..what troubled times lah? Beirut is having troubled times...we are having a ball here.

Thieveries & buggering each other are mere distraction to nouveau riche residents lah...

I like to believe many of us are for the SJ Alert...So Just do it! You can't please everyone. GO!!!!!!!!

Yang Amat Behind you lato tupai :p

MOYSC
03-08-2006, 04:00 PM
Err...Orchi wishes to highlight the fact that...everytime the members received the SMS alert...though you may wanna "forward" it to others with good intentions...eventually the SENDER ID would reflect on the actual person(s)...who's forwarding the SMS alerts around...n it could be tersebar...n broadcasted to "everywhere" within a short period of time...or it could even be broadcasted within months...or years down the road...after the incident took place...initially.


Can I suggest to hv a write-up on this OrchiPD set-up (ie. set-up, members, objectives, procedures, etc.) so that the rest of us could easily forward it to our family, friends and neighbours?

Meanwhile, is this set-up registered with any bodies (ie. PRDM, Reg of Societies, etc.)? Any legal implications?

Blur... Blur...
:)

PeterHng
03-08-2006, 04:11 PM
Err...thank you CG:)...for the support...besides the names...kindly remember to include the phone nos...locality n email addresses if available...

Eg.: 018 3456789...Usj99 John Wayne...legend@wildfrontier.com

The action committee met again for a brain storming session on 31st July...n we agree that certain measures are to be inplaced...before the soon to be launched of such service...to eliminate if possible or to minimize the possibility which may arise...that the community service could be misunderstood despite all it's good intentions n purposes...

Thnx a lot OrchiPD. Looking forward to assist in whatever capacities I can. U hv my HP. thnx again.

AllUrban
03-08-2006, 07:16 PM
Just took a quick look through this page....a very interesting initiative and I wish to congratulate you. Always ready to support people who want to take responsbility in their communities, to take back the night (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Take_back_the_night) (and in some cases, the day).

Hmmm....how about deputizing some Guardian Angels (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guardian_Angels)?

They have a very interesting view of themselves (http://www.guardianangels.org/) but I am sure that they contribute to society.

Cheers, m

robertec
04-08-2006, 12:59 PM
We have just sent out our first Crime Report Week ending 30/07.

Kindly remember not to forward messages that you receive from SJ Alert.

I should also like to inform all "Members" that all messages sent through our SMS Alert System are copied to the OCPD Tuan Fuad, his Chief Inspectors and other Senior officers.

We have at present 466 "Members"

Tell us how we can improve.
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orchipalar
04-08-2006, 01:04 PM
We have just sent out our first Crime Report Week ending 30/07.

Kindly remember not to forward messages that you receive from SJ Alert.

I should also like to inform all "Members" that all messages sent through our SMS Alert System are copied to the OCPD Tuan Fuad, his Chief Inspectors and other Senior officers.

We have at present 466 "Members"

Tell us how we can improve.Err...by the same time next month...the figures would be DOUBLED...at the least...!!!

Please mark the action committee's words for it...

tan_r
04-08-2006, 01:04 PM
Yes, please do not circulate because what is current today may be no longer relevant tomorrow. We do not wish to become accessory to any anxiety or panic that an outdated message may cause.

If you feel that your loved ones and friends should be in the loop, please encourage them to subscribe.

mikoloh
04-08-2006, 01:44 PM
Orchipalar,

Count me in as one of your volunteers.Hope to meet up with you guys tonight.

michael
mikoloh@yahoo.com

orchipalar
04-08-2006, 01:48 PM
Hey Miko:)...do send Orchi with a PM with your contact nos....area where you live(eg. USJ2 or SS12) n email address(if any)

mikoloh
04-08-2006, 01:58 PM
done orchi....

orchipalar
06-08-2006, 10:22 PM
Err...Thanks to those that have provided their contact details to Orchi...via PMs n SMS...recently...

Orchi gets about 5 to 10 of them on the daily basis...

n together...we shall endeavor to make this a true n benefiting community programme...

Let more of us be the eyes n ears...to the Police :)

orchipalar
07-08-2006, 10:42 AM
PUBLIC-ASSISTED ARRESTS FOR SELECTED MAJOR OFFENCES

Members of public contributed to the arrest of 824 criminals involved in outraging of modesty, housebreaking, robbery, motor vehicle theft, snatch theft, murder and rape. These public-assisted arrests accounted for 42% of the total arrests in these crimes for 2005, higher than the 39% recorded in 2004.

http://www.spf.gov.sg/stats/stats2005_publicarrests.htm

Err...dear Friends n Residents...as you may be able to see from the statistics released by the Singapore Police Force...the awareness and Public assistance...has contributed significantly to their crime fighting efforts there...

So keep your eyes n ears open for any eventuality...n report any crime incidents to the Police straight away...as n when it happens...

DON'T SHUT YOURSELVES IN YOUR OWN COMFORT ZONE...PLEASE HELP!!!

Life Ranger
07-08-2006, 11:28 AM
Orchi / Robertec, is this SMS programme a 1-way communication, ie. receiving form SJ Alert hq ? During an eye-witness occasion at a crime site, how should one report ? Should the report be made to police only and the police will inform SJ Alert or vice versa or does one need to inform both ?

orchipalar
07-08-2006, 02:26 PM
During an eye-witness occasion at a crime site, how should one report ? Should the report be made to police only and the police will inform SJ Alert or vice versa or does one need to inform both ?Err buddy:)...when you are witnessing a crime...you should do whatever is deemed appropriate...n call the nearest Police stations to report the crime...or any suspicions n get the necessary assistance from them...

n then you should call the SJ Crime Alert nos.(one would be provided to you...whenever you sign up by sending Orchi a PM or SMS)...so the vital infos can be disseminated to others to be on the alert...n someone maybe near to you(the crime scene)...who could possibly respond with whatever possible asap...

Life Ranger
07-08-2006, 03:00 PM
can the sms messages be of choice of BM, Mnadarin and English ? I believe this will definitely convinience the various-lingual folks.. and kindly inform the service charge which is 1-time right ? so that I can advertise around.

orchipalar
07-08-2006, 03:03 PM
Err buddy...this pilot community programme SJ ALERT by SMS...is available presently for FREE only to the residents of SJ/USJ/Putra Heights/Sunway...in English!

clutz4words
08-08-2006, 08:51 AM
Err buddy...this pilot community programme SJ ALERT by SMS...is available presently for FREE only to the residents of SJ/USJ/Putra Heights/Sunway...in English!

I'm in. just gimme a buzz when needed.

Firefly
08-08-2006, 09:50 AM
Hey Orchi..How to register? Any web site for it?

orchipalar
08-08-2006, 11:11 AM
Err...it's easy just send a PM or SMS to Orchi...

CellPhone Nos. Email Address(IF any) Location: Name:

Firefly
08-08-2006, 12:35 PM
Orchi!!! a person EMAIL his details to me lah...Where am I suppose to sent this registation?? Gimme your Email Address. If you want a Gmail for that purpose, then do the same.

Serigala
09-08-2006, 10:55 AM
OCPD, Serigala too do not want to be left out. :D Will pm you in a short while. Keep up the good job.
:) Let me know if you need assistance from my side.

orchipalar
09-08-2006, 12:56 PM
Err...as part of the Beta testing process...a Weekly Crime Report ending 06/08/06 obtained from the USJ8 Balai was broadcasted this morning...to all "SJ Alert" members residing in USJ...n to all forumers from Usj.com.my whom had subscribed to the "SJ Alert" SMS community service...

From the SMS log file...we noticed that there are instances where the SMS failed to reach to some members' cellphones...which are probably switched off or out of coverage areas...at the time.

Orchi has sinced attempted to call those cellphone numbers...but most of them are inactive...

As an attempt to minimize the loss of SMS credits due to this problem from repeating in the future...please check your SMS messages to see whether you have received any SMS from "SJ Alert" this morning...

IF NOT...kindly notify Orchi by PM or SMS...so proper steps would be taken asap to identify n rectify the problem.

Your cooperations much appreciated...TQ:)

orchipalar
10-08-2006, 09:53 AM
Err...LATEST this morning...an "SJ ALERT" has just been broadcasted to alert ALL members regarding the most recent case of STOLEN Gold Kembara BHH 1982... (http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/upload/showthread.php?t=13983) The case has been reported at USJ 8 Balai this morning...

Immediately Upon sighting of this vehicle...kindly call USJ 8 Balai Police 03-56356804.

For those that have received this "SJ ALERT" SMS...Please DO NOT circulate or forward the message...

For those that have subscribed to this "SJ ALERT"...but have NOT received this message...kindly notify Orchi by SMS or Private Message...

orchipalar
11-08-2006, 02:53 PM
Err...early this afternoon..."SJ Alert" has broadcasted a message notifying residents n members(total:600+)...of this LATEST PROGRESS from the POLICE... (http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2006/8/11/nation/15115150&sec=nation)

Kindly report to Police 03-7956 2222 immediately upon sighting of the remaining 2 elder siblings of the NOTORIOUS CAMRY Gang...or Call the nearest Police station for any suspicious characters in the neighborhoods.

Police are now hunting for Mohd Yusley Mohd Yunus, 29, and Mohd Yusman, 27...n they are believed to be HIGHLY Dangerous...

http://www.mmail.com.my/Current_News/mm/Friday/Hotnews/20060811120521/Article/index_html

For those that have received this "SJ ALERT" SMS...Please DO NOT circulate or forward the message...

For those that have subscribed to this "SJ ALERT"...but have NOT received this message...kindly notify Orchi by SMS or Private Message...

For those that are willing to subscribe to this "SJ Alert" community SMS service...kindly notify Orchi by Private Message...by clicking here... (http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/upload/private.php?do=newpm&userid=3764)

orchipalar
11-08-2006, 05:54 PM
"Selangor police chief Datuk Yahya Udin said: "The public is everywhere. People are the best source of information when something happens in their area. As for us, we are only a call away."

http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/nst/Friday/National/20060811075941/Article/local1_html

"Without the help of the public, many cases could end up unsolved," said Yahya.

He was happy that residents in some areas were playing an active role in curbing crime.

"In Subang Jaya, some of the residents’ associations have established their own mobile patrols and we are providing the guidance."

Err...why don't each n everyone of you start by...spreading the awareness to your own family members...friends n neighbours living in USJ n Subang Jaya...

n gather as many support as you can...to get their details such as names...contact numbers...n locations of where they are...to subscribe to this "SJ Alert" community SMS service...

n to start n work closely n vigilantly with our neighborhood Police...

pcyeoh
13-08-2006, 12:36 AM
We have just sent out our first Crime Report Week ending 30/07.

Kindly remember not to forward messages that you receive from SJ Alert.

I should also like to inform all "Members" that all messages sent through our SMS Alert System are copied to the OCPD Tuan Fuad, his Chief Inspectors and other Senior officers.

We have at present 466 "Members"
At our lunch table today, our OCPD of Subang Jaya commended our SJ Alert initiative and he saw great benefits to be derived from it. In fact he told his officers who have not subscribed to do so immediately. He said most probably ours is the first in the country that is most comprehensive and on a large scale and very well managed.

Guys, make sure we keep up the momentum as the pressure is on. Let us aim to register 1,000 members before the official launch by a VVIP.

robertec
14-08-2006, 10:57 AM
Since my last report on the number of members that we have for the SJ Alert, 10 days ago, I can tell you that we now have 623 members.

The breakdown is as follows:

SS12 - 4
SS14 - 166
SS15 - 4
SS17 - 4
SS18 - 3
SS19 - 5
Sunway - 4
USJ1 - 4
USJ2 - 20
USJ3 - 9
USJ3A - 8
USJ4 - 5
USJ5 - 14
USJ6 - 8
USJ9 - 11
USJ11 - 17
USJ12 - 9
USJ13 - 2
USJ14 - 2
USJ16 - 14
USJ17 - 5
USJ18 - 44
USJ19 - 3
USJ20 - 29
USJ22 - 4
USJ23 - 90
USJ24 - 2
USJ26 - 2
USJ27 - 6
Ordinary - 111
Police - 8
PHeights - 6
Total to date 623

So the figure that our chief has mentioned is not too far away, taking into consideration that quite a few of our Neighbourhoodwatch Groups have yet to registered their members.
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idolfan
14-08-2006, 11:04 AM
Are you opening up to those who might reside in nearby Shah Alam or Kelana Jaya, but work, or study or even just lepak in Subang Jaya..

robertec
14-08-2006, 11:58 AM
I would like to inform you that we are in the mist of preparing the various rules and regulations governing the usage of the SJ Alert system. Don’t worry most of the rules will be quite simple.

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Examples:
We have to setup disclaimers with regards to the forwarding of our messages, as we do not want outdated messages to be circulated resulting in our good intentions abused. This is why our messages are “dated” and comes with a warning about forwarding.

We cannot be held responsible for non delivery of SJ Alerts for whatever reason. Etc…..etc....
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As you can imagine, we will be making a BIG push when this Community Service is launched by (as PC puts it) a VVIP together with the Police

There will be various ways you can register for this FREE Service; they will be introduced on our launch date.


In the meantime, should you, your family members, your neighbours or your friends living in Subang Jaya/USJ/Putra Heights, like to register with the service now, you can

Send an SMS from the Mobile Phone you intend to receive the SJ Alert (we cannot accept the registration if the request is not sent from the recipient Mobile Phone)

1. Your Full Name
2. Your Home Address in SJ/USJ/PH (Your Precinct would be sufficient)
3. Your Email (if any)

to the following numbers:

+60122056885
+60122093093

A reminder to all new members that you must not “forward” any SJ ALERT Messages.

For already registered members, please note that you can deactivate this service at anytime by just sending an SMS (with the Mobile phone on which you are receiving the SJ Alerts) with the following text

“SJ Alert Deactivate”

to the abovementioned numbers and you will be promptly removed from our list.

E. & O. E.
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robertec
14-08-2006, 12:31 PM
Are you opening up to those who might reside in nearby Shah Alam or Kelana Jaya, but work, or study or even just lepak in Subang Jaya..

There are some exceptions but generally, due to the limited resources that we have (as this Service is provided FREE), it is for the benefit of Residents in Subang Jaya and USJ.
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orchipalar
14-08-2006, 01:07 PM
Guys, make sure we keep up the momentum as the pressure is on. Let us aim to register 1,000 members before the official launch by a VVIP.Err...dear PCYeoh:)...there is absolutely no pressure whatsoever...

Example: IF EACH existing member...has the habit of saying 'Hello' to immediate neighbours to start with...n get to know them a bit more better...

They then spread the awareness of this community programme...n get them neighbours to send a simple SMS to subscribe to the service...providing their names n contact nos...email(if any)...etc.

Then...think about this...

1. Current members 650...each speaks to 2 immediate neighbours(at the least)...x 2 = 1,300 NEW Subscribers...in no time...

2. 1300...each speaks to 2 immediate neighbours...x 2 = 2,600 NEW Subscribers...in relatively short frame of time...

Ahem...so by then say 1 month from now...YOU alone...could start the ball rolling which would create a snowball effect to get 10 New subscribers...in 30 days...easily!

So to get 6,500 members by this time in September...would NOT be a difficult task...would it?

Err...unless of course...one can prove that folks n residents living in USJ/SubangJaya/Sunway/PutraHeights...DO NOT actually speak to their immediate neighbours...or do they?

orchipalar
14-08-2006, 07:48 PM
"2 Armed Robbers(Indian) in Gold P.MyVi No. AGF7318 just rob victim in SS14/4A. Report Lodged SS17 Balai. Upon Sighting call 03-5632 2222. Dont Forward.14.8.06."

Err...an SJ Alert has just been broadcasted to ALL Police Group and Members of USJ/SubangJaya/Sunway/PutraHeights...to be on the lookout of the above...

PLEASE BE CAREFUL...the robbers are believed to be ARMED n Dangerous...

A New Subscriber of SJ Alert Community Programme living in SS14...had earlier provided the description via SMS to Orchi...

Then the contact phone numbers of the victim was obtained...while he just arrived in SS17 Balai to lodge the report of the robbery incident...which is believed to occur around 7:20pm...

satigue
14-08-2006, 10:24 PM
Err...dear PCYeoh:)...there is absolutely no pressure whatsoever...

Example: IF EACH existing member...has the habit of saying 'Hello' to immediate neighbours to start with...n get to know them a bit more better...

They then spread the awareness of this community programme...n get them neighbours to send a simple SMS to subscribe to the service...providing their names n contact nos...email(if any)...etc.

Then...think about this...

1. Current members 650...each speaks to 2 immediate neighbours(at the least)...x 2 = 1,300 NEW Subscribers...in no time...

2. 1300...each speaks to 2 immediate neighbours...x 2 = 2,600 NEW Subscribers...in relatively short frame of time...

Ahem...so by then say 1 month from now...YOU alone...could start the ball rolling which would create a snowball effect to get 10 New subscribers...in 30 days...easily!

So to get 6,500 members by this time in September...would NOT be a difficult task...would it?

Err...unless of course...one can prove that folks n residents living in USJ/SubangJaya/Sunway/PutraHeights...DO NOT actually speak to their immediate neighbours...or do they?
orchi, sounds like MLM....hehe...cheers.

orchipalar
16-08-2006, 12:28 AM
"Vehicle Thefs Cases Rising from 2-6am. Hilux, MyVi & Others Stolen frm Homes' car porch. Add Locks to Vehicles & Gates. Immediately Call Polis InEvent. 16.8.06. Dont Forward."

Err...an "SJ Alert" SMS has just been broadcasted to ALL Police Group and Members of USJ/SubangJaya/Sunway/PutraHeights...to be on HIGH ALERT of the the above...

The community POLICE beats have advised that...owners should add additional locking devices to their vehicles n the entrance gates of their homes...irrespective whether the gates are automated or manually operated ones...as an additional deterrent!

In most recent reported cases of vehicle thefs...it is believed that possibly more than 2 car thieves would hit their targetted vehicles parked in homes' car porch...by lifting off the entrance gates of homes...regardless of whether the gates are automated or manually operated ones...

In significant numbers of cases...the car thieves managed to drive off the vehicles with the alarms triggered...n lights flashing...!!

Should anyone suspects...notices or witnesses such vehicle theft incidents in progress...PLEASE RESPOND BY CONTACTING THE NEAREST BALAI POLIS...in our community.

IPD Subang Jaya : 8948 4822

Balai Polis SS17 : 5633 2222

Balai Polis USJ 8 : 5635 6904

Balai Polis Bandar Sunway : 5638 2122

Balai Polis Putra Heights : 5192 2404

IPD Polis Shah Alam : 5510 2222, 5510 2220

orchipalar
17-08-2006, 08:13 PM
"CAR THEFT ALERT. Silver Proton WAJA BGX 3665 just been stolen from USJ6/2N. Anyone Notice it PLEASE Call USJ8 Balai 03-5635 6904 or nearest Police Station. 17.8.06."

Err...an "SJ Alert" SMS has just been broadcasted to ALL Police Group and Members of USJ/SubangJaya/Sunway/PutraHeights...to be on HIGH ALERT of the the above...

orchipalar
17-08-2006, 08:39 PM
"Report Week 13/08.

House Break-Ins - 4
Car Thefts - 14
Bike Thefts - 8
Snatch Thefts - 0
Robbery - 4
Other Thefts - 4
Details at www.nwatch.net.my
Report all suspicions to Police.
Dont Forward."

Err...earlier this morning...an "SJ Alert" SMS has just been broadcasted to ALL Police Group and Members of USJ/SubangJaya/Sunway/PutraHeights...to be on HIGH ALERT of the the above...statistics which was obtained from USJ 8 Balai Polis...for cases that were reported there ONLY...

Currently...statistics from the SS17 Balai/Putra Heights Balai...have not been obtained pending the relevant approval by the IPD Subang Jaya Police...

http://www.nwatch.net.my/article.cfm?id=167

PLEASE BE ON ALERT OF CRIME HAPPENING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD...PLEASE REPORT ALL CRIMES AT THE NEAREST POLICE STATION...!

robertec
22-08-2006, 12:53 PM
Since my last report dated 14/08/06 I can now inform you that the present membership of the SJ Alert SMS System is 1,226
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22-08-2006, 03:55 PM
Dear Resident of Subang Jaya, USJ and Putra Heights

Most of you may already be aware that a group of concerned SJ/USJ residents have come together to start the SJ Alert SMS System (presently in Beta testing). We are pleased to inform you that our website, http://www.sjalert.com.my is also now in Beta presentation.

This FREE service will alert you on your Mobile Phone and also at your email address (if it is provided by you) of Crime and other Emergencies, Utility Disruptions and Community Events (this may include even your localised Precinct Community Events). In addition you will also receive Crime Report Messages from the Police in and around Subang Jaya, USJ and Putra Heights.

Since we are a 100% Non-Profit Organisation and this Community Service is presently provided FREE, we have to inform you that you will also be receiving SMS Promotional Messages from time to time from our various sponsors. The SJ Alert Committee Members will ensure that the messages are moderated.

***IMPORTANT NOTICE
You must read and accept our disclaimer (http://www.sjalert.com.my/disclaimer.htm) before you can activate our service. Your activation of our FREE Service indicates that you have read and understood our Rules and Regulations (http://www.sjalert.com.my/disclaimer.htm) governing the usage of it.

By your agreeing to subscribe to this FREE service, we are to REMIND you that you are STRONGLY advised against forwarding any of our messages to anyone. If you feel that your loved ones and friends should be in the loop, please encourage them to subscribe. This is to prevent the circulation of out-dated alerts which may create unnecessary anxiety to others in our Community. In this respect, we feel it pertinent to forewarn that you may ultimately be held responsible for any problems your action causes should you decide to ignore our advice. We should also like to add that all our Crime Report messages are monitored by the Police.

To activate this free service, just do the following

Send an SMS with the following text

SJ Alert
{Your full name}
{Your Home Address in SJ/USJ/PH}
{Your email address (if any)}

using the Mobile Phone on which you wish to receive our notification to either

+6012 2056885
or
+6012 2093093
Please do not send to both numbers

** You can also register for this service by sending an email with your details to
robertec@sjalert.com.my
raymond@sjalert.com.my
orchipalar@sjalert.com.my

you can deactivate this service at anytime (http://www.sjalert.com.my/deactivate_page.htm)

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This service can be deactivated at anytime for whatever reason by doing the following:

Send an SMS with the following text

SJ Alert Deactivate

using the Mobile Phone on which you activated the SJ Alert Service to

+6012 2056885
or

+6012 2093093
Please do not send to both numbers

** You can also deactivate this service by sending an email with your full details to:
robertec@sjalert.com.my
raymond@sjalert.com.my
orchipalar@sjalert.com.my


you can reactivate this service at anytime (http://www.sjalert.com.my/index.html)

Already a subscriber
If you are already a subscriber of our Service (i.e. you have been receiving messages from SJ Alert - now in Beta Testing), your continued usage of our FREE Service indicates that you have read and understood our disclaimer governing the usage of this Service (http://www.sjalert.com.my/disclaimer.htm). If you do not agree with any of our Rules and Regulations, please contact us and we will remove you from our database immediately.

Thanks and Regards
Robert

http://www.sjalert.com.my/images/SJAlert200.gif (http://www.sjalert.com.my/index.html)
The eyes and ears of SJ

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orchipalar
22-08-2006, 04:33 PM
Since my last report dated 14/08/06 I can now inform you that the present membership of the SJ Alert SMS System is 1,226Err...yes do assist "SJ Alert" to spread the awareness to your love ones...friends n neighbours who are living in SJ/USJ/Sunway/PutraHeights...n get them to subsribe by SMS...or email.

The same "SJ Alert" community service system can be viewed at
The NWatch - neighborhood watch community website... (http://www.nwatch.net.my/) as well.

joey180
22-08-2006, 07:13 PM
Btw, its been some time since the last update on the camry gang. Last we heard in this forum, they are probably on the run from police. Unfortunately it seems they are still at large until today. Probably, the youngest bro may also have been released by police since nothing has been heard of him since his arrest by police couple of weeks back. Anyone has any update on the youngest bro's case, and whether the police are still actively trakking down the two elder bros?

MOYSC
23-08-2006, 09:35 AM
Could we merge SJ Alert with Rakan Cop system? Both hv similar functions no??? Appreciate if someone could provide some info on this matter.

Just in case this question turn out to be another disaster......No, I dont' need criticisms on this question and Yes, I sincerely would like to find out more. :)


Dear Resident of Subang Jaya, USJ and Putra Heights

Most of you may already be aware that a group of concerned SJ/USJ residents have come together to start the SJ Alert SMS System (presently in Beta testing). We are pleased to inform you that our website, http://www.sjalert.com.my is also now in Beta presentation.

This FREE service will alert you on your Mobile Phone and also at your email address (if it is provided by you) of Crime and other Emergencies, Utility Disruptions and Community Events (this may include even your localised Precinct Community Events). In addition you will also receive Crime Report Messages from the Police in and around Subang Jaya, USJ and Putra Heights.

Since we are a 100% Non-Profit Organisation and this Community Service is presently provided FREE, we have to inform you that you will also be receiving SMS Promotional Messages from time to time from our various sponsors. The SJ Alert Committee Members will ensure that the messages are moderated.

***IMPORTANT NOTICE
You must read and accept our disclaimer (http://www.sjalert.com.my/disclaimer.htm) before you can activate our service. Your activation of our FREE Service indicates that you have read and understood our Rules and Regulations (http://www.sjalert.com.my/disclaimer.htm) governing the usage of it.

By your agreeing to subscribe to this FREE service, we are to REMIND you that you are STRONGLY advised against forwarding any of our messages to anyone. If you feel that your loved ones and friends should be in the loop, please encourage them to subscribe. This is to prevent the circulation of out-dated alerts which may create unnecessary anxiety to others in our Community. In this respect, we feel it pertinent to forewarn that you may ultimately be held responsible for any problems your action causes should you decide to ignore our advice. We should also like to add that all our Crime Report messages are monitored by the Police.

To activate this free service, just do the following

Send an SMS with the following text

SJ Alert
{Your full name}
{Your Home Address in SJ/USJ/PH}
{Your email address (if any)}

using the Mobile Phone on which you wish to receive our notification to either

+6012 2056885
or
+6012 2093093
Please do not send to both numbers

** You can also register for this service by sending an email with your details to
robertec@sjalert.com.my
raymond@sjalert.com.my
orchipalar@sjalert.com.my

you can deactivate this service at anytime (http://www.sjalert.com.my/deactivate_page.htm)

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This service can be deactivated at anytime for whatever reason by doing the following:

Send an SMS with the following text

SJ Alert Deactivate

using the Mobile Phone on which you activated the SJ Alert Service to

+6012 2056885
or

+6012 2093093
Please do not send to both numbers

** You can also deactivate this service by sending an email with your full details to:
robertec@sjalert.com.my
raymond@sjalert.com.my
orchipalar@sjalert.com.my


you can reactivate this service at anytime (http://www.sjalert.com.my/index.html)

Already a subscriber
If you are already a subscriber of our Service (i.e. you have been receiving messages from SJ Alert - now in Beta Testing), your continued usage of our FREE Service indicates that you have read and understood our disclaimer governing the usage of this Service (http://www.sjalert.com.my/disclaimer.htm). If you do not agree with any of our Rules and Regulations, please contact us and we will remove you from our database immediately.

Thanks and Regards
Robert

http://www.sjalert.com.my/images/SJAlert200.gif (http://www.sjalert.com.my/index.html)
The eyes and ears of SJ

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robertec
23-08-2006, 03:07 PM
Could we merge SJ Alert with Rakan Cop system? Both hv similar functions no??? Appreciate if someone could provide some info on this matter.

Just in case this question turn out to be another disaster......No, I dont' need criticisms on this question and Yes, I sincerely would like to find out more. :)

The answer to your question is that it is not possible.

1. The information flow for SJ Alert is to the Resident subscriber.
2. The flow of information for Rakan Cop is to the Police.

When the SMS System was first suggested, by some of our Community Leaders and the Police it was more specifically for the disseminating of Crime Reports in Subang Jaya to residents, however it was later suggested that it could also serve as a Community tool that could be used for the benefit of residents. Now you know why it is called SJ Alert instead of COP Alert or Crime Alert etc.

It would please you to note that there are already plans to launch Rakan Cop in Subang Jaya, soon. (I hope I am not letting the cat out of the bag)

By the way looking through the SJ Alert Database, I notice that we only have about 8 members from USJ3A maybe you would like to help us increase that figure. Thanks.

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robertec
23-08-2006, 03:26 PM
Btw, its been some time since the last update on the camry gang. Last we heard in this forum, they are probably on the run from police. Unfortunately it seems they are still at large until today. Probably, the youngest bro may also have been released by police since nothing has been heard of him since his arrest by police couple of weeks back. Anyone has any update on the youngest bro's case, and whether the police are still actively trakking down the two elder bros?

According to Police sources:
The elder brothers are still on the run from the Police, that's why they have not surfaced in Subang Jaya yet. They have gone into hiding in the East Coast or more probably in Indonesia.
The youngest brother was charged and since 'robbery' is a bailable offence he is probably out on bail.
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MOYSC
24-08-2006, 09:50 AM
Tq for the explanations. Hv already posted the SJ Crime Alert message at our neighbourhood website. However, you need to do more to alert those who are not in the virtual group. Banners would be one way, but it needs to be included with contact nos. for clarifications, if required.

Reaching out directly to neighbours is another good option, but info can be misinterpreted along the way. Hence, there must also be visual awareness.

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The answer to your question is that it is not possible.

1. The information flow for SJ Alert is to the Resident subscriber.
2. The flow of information for Rakan Cop is to the Police.

When the SMS System was first suggested, by some of our Community Leaders and the Police it was more specifically for the disseminating of Crime Reports in Subang Jaya to residents, however it was later suggested that it could also serve as a Community tool that could be used for the benefit of residents. Now you know why it is called SJ Alert instead of COP Alert or Crime Alert etc.

It would please you to note that there are already plans to launch Rakan Cop in Subang Jaya, soon. (I hope I am not letting the cat out of the bag)

By the way looking through the SJ Alert Database, I notice that we only have about 8 members from USJ3A maybe you would like to help us increase that figure. Thanks.

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robertec
24-08-2006, 11:56 AM
Tq for the explanations. Hv already posted the SJ Crime Alert message at our neighbourhood website. However, you need to do more to alert those who are not in the virtual group. Banners would be one way, but it needs to be included with contact nos. for clarifications, if required.

Reaching out directly to neighbours is another good option, but info can be misinterpreted along the way. Hence, there must also be visual awareness.

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You're welcome Nina and thanks for the posting at your Neighbourhood Website.

I have already had feedback from current Members that many residents who are not virtually connected have heard of SJ Alert but are at a lost as how and where to register.

We are presently in beta testing, once we have the Official Launch it will be all over the newspapers and then we will followup with the banners and hardcopy registration.

Even with the limited exposure that we have presently, I guesstimate that we should have close to 1,500 members when we go Official.

In the meantime, all our virtual friends should be spreading the word to everyone they know. (or is the virtual well already empty?)

The success of this initiative depends on the SJ/USJ Community wanting to be empowered with information.

By the way we could use a highly motivated person like you to be in our Committee. how? can ar?
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orchipalar
24-08-2006, 08:12 PM
"18:45pm. Alert Residents foiled Robbery Attempt. Caught 1 of 5 snatch/robbery gang @USJ2 field where many cases reported. Suspect detained by USJ8 Balai Police."

Err...an "SJ Alert" SMS has just been broadcasted to ALL Police Group and Members of USJ/SubangJaya/Sunway/PutraHeights...to be alerted of the the above...

It was reported that the 5 member gang came to the USJ Padang in a Green Kembara...n had tried to rob a young resident at a gazebo...

Alerted residents who were present at the padang had approached the gang when they noticed a commotion at the gazebo...

Upon seeing residents approaching...the gang members attempted to flee the scene...which had led to few residents to give chase after the gang members...

One of the gang members were caught while the rest managed to escaped in their getaway Green Kembara...

In the midst of the commotion n chase was going on...one of the many "SJ Alert" members living near to the padang...had called n alerted Orchi of the incident...

A call was made to the USJ 8 Balai n the Chief Inspector subsequently...n immediately a team of detectives n patrol personnels were despatched to the scene of incident to apprehend the robbery suspect...

ALL the suspects were armed with knives n steel pipes...n they are amongst the Police wanted list...n they are believed to be from Shah Alam...aged in the early 20s...

They are also believed to be involved in many snatch n robbery crime cases in the USJ community recently...

Btw...at the scene of incident the would be victim of the crime n his 5 buddies(witnesses) were advised by the Police to be present at the USJ8 Balai to lodge a report on the incident...without which...the Police would have a weak case n their further necessary actions to be taken would be hampered n jeopardized ...

All of them came forward to cooperate with the Police...n Orchi drove them all to the Balai...:)

mon
24-08-2006, 08:23 PM
Have received the alert orchi, thanks. Most certainly with the alertness and support from the public & police, we will be able to stop those buggers from terrorizing us eventually . Today's incident is certainly a breakthru, altho only one caught. Hope he would confess and help bring the rest of the gang to justice.

kwchang
24-08-2006, 10:47 PM
Well done! I am impressed. This is the kind of citizens' action we should have. Calling the Police and their action shows that all our dialogs have borne fruit. Having cought one is enough. An opening lead will mean the end is near for the other members.

johndee
25-08-2006, 12:18 AM
Bravo! I hope this will be start of usj residents being more alert and united to apprenhend the crooks besides sending a strong message to the crooks to not mess around here.

mikoloh
25-08-2006, 02:41 AM
This is indeed MUHIBAH.....Im sooo glad that residents in USJ has acquired this spirit.

Yes, i did receive the sm alert earlier....3 cheers for the Residents!

cheers
michael

johndee
25-08-2006, 06:27 PM
There was no report of this incident in the papers. Any update on whether follow-up action by the police managed to nab the other 4 scums?

Wild_Explorer
29-08-2006, 04:28 PM
Just receive an urgent SMS that a chinese gal around 18 years old was just abducted from Subang Parade rooftop carpark by five malay looking guys.

The car is a Wira Aeroback, green colour bearing car registration number WFE 2365

Pls help to look out for the car.

Is this the way to report the crime???

I have just verified the crime and according to my customer, it is authentic.

Am trying to get further authentication on the crime. Pls help

URGENNNNTTTT!!!!

robertec
29-08-2006, 04:40 PM
Just receive an urgent SMS that a chinese gal around 18 years old was just abducted from Subang Parade rooftop carpark by five malay looking guys.

The car is a Wira Aeroback, green colour bearing car registration number WFE 2365

Pls help to look out for the car.

Is this the way to report the crime???

I have just verified the crime and according to my customer, it is authentic.

Am trying to get further authentication on the crime. Pls help

URGENNNNTTTT!!!!

Can you tell us how you verified with your customer that the incident is authentic? Did your customer witness the incident?
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orchipalar
29-08-2006, 04:44 PM
Err...Orchi wishes to make this point clear to everyone...

The 'urgent' chains of SMS informing recipients of a reported kidnap case which occured in 'parade'...could NOT be verified since 1pm today...

Furthermore...it has nothing to do with any of the "SJ ALERT" initiatives...

Wild_Explorer
29-08-2006, 05:00 PM
Sorry... got carried away with the numerous phone calls from my customer who is a serious businessman.... was just trying to help.

Once again sorry as it is only confirmed by my customer and couldn't get any verification as in police report number and etc....

SORRYYYY!!!!

jianwei85
29-08-2006, 05:19 PM
Err...Orchi wishes to make this point clear to everyone...

The 'urgent' chains of SMS informing recipients of a reported kidnap case which occured in 'parade'...could NOT be verified since 1pm today...

Furthermore...it has nothing to do with any of the "SJ ALERT" initiatives...

yes. been getting loads of sms regarding the kidnapping case without verification. can't do much though. jz don't recycle the sms.

robertec
29-08-2006, 05:23 PM
Sorry... got carried away with the numerous phone calls from my customer who is a serious businessman.... was just trying to help.

Once again sorry as it is only confirmed by my customer and couldn't get any verification as in police report number and etc....

SORRYYYY!!!!

Don't worry about it, that's how we all learn.

In future just be very careful when forwarding messages that you receive, some messages play on the sentiments of the public.

As this saga unfolds you will all understand why the Caridinal Rule of SJ Alert is that you do not forward or recycle our messages.

It should also be pointed out that all SJ Alert messages are authenticated by the POLICE. We do not simply send out Crime Report messages.

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pcyeoh
29-08-2006, 05:53 PM
I have just verified the crime and according to my customer, it is authentic.

URGENNNNTTTT!!!!
The above statement can only be made if you have verified this with the victim or victim's family members or friends all of whom you know. Outside this circle is rather dangerous. Most of us who received the sms cannot verify and so it is actually useless. I was more concern of the driver or the occupants of the Car WFE 2365 who may be attacked by overzealous public if this turns out to be a rumour. Normally, I ignore the sms or email totally. Just like what Robert says, we strongly discourage you from forwarding the SJ Alert sms. It should stop with you. In this way, you will treasure every SJ Alert you received as you know damned sure that the news/alert is true or real.

willyleect
29-08-2006, 06:56 PM
Just receive an urgent SMS that a chinese gal around 18 years old was just abducted from Subang Parade rooftop carpark by five malay looking guys.

The car is a Wira Aeroback, green colour bearing car registration number WFE 2365

Pls help to look out for the car.

Is this the way to report the crime???

I have just verified the crime and according to my customer, it is authentic.

Am trying to get further authentication on the crime. Pls help

URGENNNNTTTT!!!!


It has just been reported in the China Press that this case happened in Ipoh last night at 7.20pm. The girl was found near the junction of Simpang Pulaie / Slim / Cameron about 40 minutes later, while the car was recovered 1 hour later in Jelapang.

Read about it here : http://www.chinapress.com.my/content_new.asp?dt=2006-08-30&sec=malaysia&art=0830mb30.txt

Erubus
29-08-2006, 07:01 PM
Can someone please translate it?

I have called IPD Selangor to verify it and given them the content of the sms and they would verify it and call me back.

After that i called up Subang parade info counter to verify it and yes they have heard of the rumours and have said that its a false alarm and it didnt happen in subang parade. When i asked them did it happen at any other parades they say they don't know and ask me check with TheStar.

Erubus
29-08-2006, 07:05 PM
I believe this is the news report by thestar in english.

http://www.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2006/8/29/nation/20060829175448&sec=nation

clfoo
29-08-2006, 07:24 PM
Ipoh also got Subang parade kah ? :confused:

Erubus
29-08-2006, 07:26 PM
during the forwarding of smses someone have added "subang" to it.

Its Ipoh Parade in Ipoh.

I have gotten 3 sms with parade and 2 sms with subang parade.

orchipalar
29-08-2006, 07:26 PM
Tuesday August 29, 2006

Five men abduct student and dump her by roadside

IPOH: Five men abducted a college student from a shopping centre car park here, taking her on a terror ride before dumping her by the roadside.

State CID chief Senior Asst Comm (II) Datuk A. Paramasivam said on Tuesday that the men had approached the girl and her boyfriend, both 18, on a fourth-floor parking lot in the 7.20pm incident on Monday.

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2006/8/29/nation/20060829175448&sec=nation

Err...it is an example that we all could learn from...

This latest incident of mass circulations of the SMS which was originated since last night arising from an abduction/robbery case reported in Ipoh(28.8.06 at about 7pm)...about 24hrs ago since...has spread across Perak/Selangor/the Klang Valley...n probably right up to North South n Eastern territories by now...

n somewhere along its broadcasted journey with a twist...a "Subang" Parade was added...

n while Orchi was in the SS17 Police station this afternoon...folks can imagine how the Police were scrambling with phone lines that were jammed up with all sorts of enquiries from all sorts of places(one of the callers was calling from Ipoh!)...

n Orchi was told that someone called from Klang to report by phone that "he" had witnessed the incident happening in "Subang" parade...!!!??

So from now...let's hope NOBODY would further re-circulate the "UnVerified" n "UnAuthenticated" SMSs of such nature again...For examples...there is a Klang Parade...Mahkota Parade...JB Parade...Kuantan Parade...n probably Batu Pahat Parade too...

Therefore as a reminder...whenever "SJ Alert" members received ANY SMS originating from SENDER ID...the "SJ ALERT"...PLEASE DO NOT FORWARD IT...!

TQ.

kwchang
29-08-2006, 11:02 PM
Now you understand why we give bananas for rumours? I was offline the whole of yesterday, hence did not catch all these silliness. The way rumours circulate is when people feel overly concerned because of their own fears and wild imaginations about consequences of an 'event' and forget to check the authenticity of the event. I get blasted when I say people should not post rumours and that it is better to make the mistake than to be sorry. My dear, the fact that the police gets so many calls to ask about this would lock up the lines which could be better used by real situations.

As Robert said, this is a lesson and it better be a good lesson for those of you who like to recirculate SMS and emails. One thing to remember is that 5 years down the road, you might see the same message come back to you - meaning there is no way to stop a message once it gets recirculated. There is no delete once something is sent, especially if someone adds the sentence to say "please send to all your friends". That sentence alone will make me delete the message because those are the very words a spammer would use.

Teeque
30-08-2006, 03:24 AM
...n probably Batu Pahat Parade too...

No, not Parade. Its Batu Pahat Summit. FYI just in case there is another sms highlighting a case in Summit. sorry to digress... :p

Moral of the story: All shopping malls in Subang must change their names now to move with the times. :cool:

KelvC
30-08-2006, 04:48 PM
http://www.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2006/8/30/nation/15278335&sec=nation

Another point to note here is the SMS message was not accurate and at the same time it lacks certain important detail (i.e. date, time, name of victim, whether there was any police report lodged, etc). If the information above were available then certain situation could have been avoided:

1. Police forces from Subang, Kuantan, Johor (Batu Pahat?) could have remained in their duties and preventing potential criminals from taking advantage of the lack of police patrolling the ground patrolling.

2. Mitigating unnecessary SMS storm going around at the wrong places and at the wrong time.

3. Creating unnecessary panic amongst the community mentioned earlier and creating negative perception on the community safety at large.

Another major note to point out here is if there are too many "Cry Wolf" therefore who is going to listen/response in the future?

robertec
01-09-2006, 09:49 PM
Since my last report dated 22/08/06 I can now inform you that the present membership of the SJ Alert SMS System is 1,338 Members.

In the meantime spread the word, instructions to register for SJ Alert can be found at

www.sjalert.com.my

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robertec
07-09-2006, 06:31 PM
We have just sent out our 6th Weekly SMS Crime Report to our members and I should like to draw your attention to the fact that the crime rate in USJ is at it’s lowest in these 6 weeks.

Probably more people are alerted to crime within their living area and taking extra precautions. The facts are that from a record of 14 vehicles stolen in a week, it has dwindled to just 1 Kancil stolen last week.

16 cases of crime were reported at Balai USJ8 compared to the highest of 32 cases in the 2nd week. In total there were 123 cases reported for the whole month.

Besides Residents’ awareness to their surroundings, increased Police patrols and more Police road blocks have made this happen, for this we would like to thank C/Inspector ASP Tuan Shanmugam and his boys for a job well done.

A really good sign for SJ/USJ.

Please continue to be vigilant and report all suspicions immediately to the Police.

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tupai
08-09-2006, 01:18 AM
...great job! and not forgetting the boys in blue under the command of C/Ins Yusoff of SS17 balai and their big Boss Tuan Fuad for his personal interest in upgrading the effectiveness of the patrols.

I have personally seen increased patrols (cars & bikes) in SS17, 18 and 19 areas.

SYABAS PDRM!

keith Khoo
ss17 - shadow jpk :p

Sugarfree
08-09-2006, 09:13 AM
Good job, Mr Policeman. Keep it up. :)

pcyeoh
12-09-2006, 02:08 PM
The Star
Tuesday September 12, 2006
By LOURDES CHARLES

IGP declares war on crime

KUALA LUMPUR: Fighting crime – that’s my mission, says new Inspector-General of Police Tan Sri Musa Hassan.

He said reducing snatch thefts and armed robberies would be his top priority.


"My priority is to reduce three major crimes. In order to reduce them, we need to have more beat patrols and crime prevention rounds by uniformed policemen as well as detectives" —Tan Sri Musa Hassan
Musa, 55, who officially assumes the post of IGP today, has also targeted drug trafficking as the other area of concern.

http://www.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2006/9/12/nation/15399162&sec=nation

orchipalar
23-09-2006, 10:16 PM
Err...an SMS by SJ Alert (http://www.sjalert.com.my/) has just been broadcasted to alert the residents...with the following message...

"A 14yo teenager was reportedly abducted while walking home from school in USJ4. Pls Becareful & Stay Alert. Vehicle Thefts cases Reported Rising. Pls add locks."

Harmony
23-09-2006, 10:20 PM
OMG!
Boy or girl? Anyone saw what vehicle he/she was taken into? Any picture of the abducted teenager?

pcyeoh
24-09-2006, 11:08 PM
Heard today that he is back with the family already. For details, read the papers tomorrow.

pcyeoh
25-09-2006, 09:16 AM
The Star
Monday September 25, 2006

Boy flees from kidnapper

PETALING JAYA: A gutsy 14-year-old boy who was kidnapped on Saturday managed to escape from his captor a day later and provide information which led to his arrest.

Police arrested a 32-year-old manager of a well-known tobacco company at 6.30pm yesterday in connection with the case.

It is learnt that the manager needed the RM1mil ransom as he had lost heavily on gambling.

The Form Two student was allegedly kidnapped when he was walking home from his school in USJ 4 in Subang Jaya.

For the rest of the story, click below
http://www.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2006/9/25/nation/15534414&sec=nation

mon
25-09-2006, 09:24 AM
Some people lose themselves when they are in desperation. Anyways, am glad the boy is safely home now and for being such a brave young man. Thanks pc for the info.

robertec
25-09-2006, 01:37 PM
Since my last report dated 01/09/06 I can now inform you that the present membership of the SJ Alert SMS System is 1,487 Members.

It is also my pleasure to inform you that as of this day the (Ketua Polis Negara) IGP Tan Sri Musa Bin Dato' Hj. Hasan is officially a member of SJ Alert.

So spread the word, instructions to register for SJ Alert can be found at

www.sjalert.com.my

And remember to come join us for the launch on (Sunday) 1st October 2006 at Subang Parade (Digital One). A good turnout will show all our sponsors that we will suceed. Full details for the launch will follow.
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gtl
25-09-2006, 06:13 PM
the SMS is really great, it is a great way to get news across FAST...........way to go.

robertec
28-09-2006, 02:10 AM
<P align=center><B><FONT color=#0b198c size=5>The Official launch of</FONT></B></P>
<P align=center><A href="http://www.sjalert.com.my/index.htm"><FONT color=#28166e><IMG height=106 alt="SJ Alert Logo" src="http://www.sjalert.com.my/images/SJAlert200.gif" width=200 border=0></FONT></A><BR>
<B><FONT face=Garamond color=#28166e size=5>The eyes and ears of SJ<BR></FONT></B>
<FONT color=#0b198c size=2><B>A Non-profit Crime Prevention initiative by Residents of Subang Jaya / USJ</B></FONT></P>
<DIV align=center><TABLE id=table62 cellSpacing=1 width=300 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD bgColor=#ffff99><B><FONT color=#0b198c size=2>Date:</FONT></B></TD>
<TD bgColor=#ffff99><B><FONT color=#0b198c size=2>Sunday, 1st October 2006</FONT></B></TD></TR>
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<TD bgColor=#ffff99><B><FONT color=#0b198c size=2>Time:</FONT></B></TD>
<TD bgColor=#ffff99><B><FONT color=#0b198c size=2>2.00pm sharp</FONT></B></TD></TR>
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<TD bgColor=#ffff99><B><FONT color=#0b198c size=2>Venue:</FONT></B></TD>
<TD bgColor=#ffff99><B><FONT color=#0b198c size=2>Subang Parade (Digital One)</FONT></B></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV>
<P align=left><B><FONT color=#ff0000 size=2>Special instructions to present subscribers</FONT></B></P>
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<LI><FONT color=#0b198c size=2>To all members of SJ Alert please come and claim your "<U>Deputy SJ Alert</U>" Car Stickers at the launch.</FONT> </LI></UL>
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<LI><FONT color=#0b198c size=2>First 200 Members will be presented with an additional 'special gift' when they show the SJ Alert launch message.</FONT> </LI></UL>
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<LI><U><FONT color=#0b198c size=2>Give us your full support by turning up in numbers for the launch, show our sponsors and advertisers that together we will make this Free Service a success</FONT></U> </LI></UL>
<P align=left><B><FONT color=#ff0000 size=2>New Subscribers</FONT></B></P>
<UL><LI><FONT color=#0b198c size=2>First 100 new hardcopy subscribers with be presented with a special gift when they signup,</FONT> </LI></UL>
<UL><LI><FONT color=#0b198c size=2>All new hardcopy subscribers will be issued the "Deputy SJ Alert" Car Sticker.</FONT> </LI></UL>
<P align=left>&nbsp;</P>
See also details at www.sjalert.com.my

orchipalar
28-09-2006, 03:05 PM
Err...the latest membership count would surpass...1,800 registered deputies.

We are targetting to reach to...2,000 deputies by the inaugural lauch day 1st October 2006, of "SJ Alert"

n realistically...with the continuous rounds of "SJ Alert" awareness campaigns n followup activities...we could have as many as 5,000 pairs of watchful eyes n ears...constantly targetting at any suspicious n criminal activities in n around the neighborhoods...n taking prompt n necessary measures to notify our nearby community Police force...for their immediate counter crime responses n actions...

MOYSC
28-09-2006, 03:32 PM
Dear SJ Alert team,

Pertaining to the recent case of the Camry gang possible come back which happened on Monday (25th Sept 06'), just curious to find out how come I'd only received its news from SJ Alert only on Wed afternoon?

Just thought that the dissemination of info was a little too late - that's all.

:)

orchipalar
28-09-2006, 04:33 PM
Err Nina:)...5 things...

1. The news in this case would have been disseminated by only certain news media...a day later at the least...

2. NOT ALL member residents read the newspaper(which carry the news)...or watch the right TV news channel(if they carry the news)...

n NOT ALL newspapers carry the news...n in this case NO TV Channel carry the news...

3. By gossips...residents may hear it days later at the least...which may NOT be verified...

4. Alerts issued by the Police to SJ Alert in this case...would have to be 1st authenticated by the relevant officials...before it can be disseminated to members of SJ Alert only...

5. The unfortunate victim or her close contacts may NOT be aware of the SJ Alert community programme...so SJ Alert was NOT notified earlier about her unfortunate incident...

In the previous occassion...a close neighbour of the victim(who is aware of the SJ Alert programme) had notified SJ Alert of the crime in progress...hence the appropriate efforts were undertaken IMMEDIATELY to alert the Police n member/residents...which had led to the Police ambush to nab the Camry Gang...

For more information about SJ Alert community programme...please visit www.sjalert.com.my

Teeque
29-09-2006, 03:56 AM
aisay orchi...in other words, dissemination still slow. Any way to 'quicken' and smoothen the process? Like daily updates frm the community police desk to SJ Alert and then SJ Alert out to all deputies?

robertec
29-09-2006, 12:31 PM
I can now inform you that the present membership of the SJ Alert SMS System is 1,905 Members. we are very closed to our target of 2,000 members.

Come on guys, dig deep into you memory banks and get those fingers moving and spread the word, instructions to register for SJ Alert can be found at

www.sjalert.com.my

There is something else that I should like to inform everyone.

The Ketua Polis Negara
YDH Tan Sri Musa bin Dato' Hj. Hassan has agreed to officially launch SJ Alert on Sunday 1st October 2006

We also have the kind attendance of:
Former Ketua Polis Negara
Tun Mohammed Hanif bin Omar
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eileenc
29-09-2006, 05:19 PM
Dear All
We are truly appreciative that YDH Tan Sri Musa bin Dato Hj Hassan, Inspector-General of Police will be launching the "SJ Alert" SMS ...

also in attendance are:
* SAC II Datuk Hadi Ho Abdullah from IPK Selangor
* ACP Muhammad Fuad bin Talib - OCPD IPD SUbang Jaya
* ASP Shanmugam - OCS BAlai Polis USJ 8
* C/Insp Yussuf bin Jahaya - OCS Balai Suabng Jaya SS17
* C/Insp Foo Teik Fong - OCS Balai Polis Putra Heights

and not forgetting former IGP, Tun Hanif Omar.

and last, but not least, YB Dato Lee Hwa Beng, ADUN Subang Jaya

So everybody, it's a full-scale day out for the Police and lends immense credit to the "SJ Alert" SMS programme. Please come out in full force too and show your support!

The details once again:
Date: Sunday Oct 01, 2006
Time: 1.30pm (for registration)
Venue: Digital One @ Subang Parade (Lower Ground Floor)

BTW, this event/programme is also sponsored by Litrak, Digital One and Macrokiosk ... thank you very much!

See you there!

pcyeoh
30-09-2006, 03:54 PM
If you happened to see two jokers on Thursday night lurking on the pedestrian bridges be it at Wawasan School, Summit Mall, 3K Sports Complex or SS 18, thank you for not calling the police. Precisely it was Orchi and I doing some 'police' work..... I mean hanging up the 25 footer SMS SJ Alert banners to remind you all about the launch tomorrow at 2pm in Subang Parade. We were up on those bridges late morning to do some correction and this time we were joined by Patrick, Robert and Melvin. On both occasions, it took us 2 hours to perform the task. It was a tedius job.

Well folks, everything is ready for the big day tomorrow. Just want to share with you something. It is with great honour that our Inspector General of Police, Tan Sri Musa Hassan inspite of his very busy schedule since coming on board as IGP just recently graciously says yes to us when we invited him to have the honour to launch this SMS SJ Alert which we believe is the first of its kind in the country. It was a short notice but I believe he has something to say about this service that made him say yes. Why not turn up at Digital One (the section where you see a lot of computer shops) in Subang Parade Sunday 1 October 2.00pm to hear what he has to say.

And, if you have registered yourself for the SJ Alert service which is totally FOC, you should be receiving a message anytime now inviting you to attend this launch. So, don't erase the message for this invitation message will entitle you to a special door gift. I assure you it is a nice one. To get it, you must show us the SMS message on your handphone at our registration counter but you must be among the first 200 to do so. The early bird catches the worm on the plate. For those who are not register, don't worry. Come and register yourself on the spot and the the first 100 to do so also also walk away with the surprise gift. See you

Sugarfree
01-10-2006, 10:59 AM
Wished I could be there but, alas, I couldn't as I will be working.

The committee's doing an excellent job. Keep up the good job.

:)

pcyeoh
01-10-2006, 11:28 AM
Crime alerts, the USJ-Subang Jaya way

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v732/pcyeoh/PoliceDialogue.jpg
The USJ-Subang Jaya neighbourhood, the place where I stay, is still fighting what we have been fighting for since 1999. Crime and crime prevention.

July 23, the USJ Residents Association (USJRA) grouped the residents together to hold a dialogue with the OCPD of the Subang Jaya District Police (picture above). As usual, the residents ranted their grievances, and the Police voiced their shortcomings in infrastructure and manpower, but promised to partner and support the residents in their grassroots initiatives in crime prevention.

Subsequently, Raymond Tan, the community activist who pioneered the Neighbourhood Watch campaign in USJ, and with the patronage from Subang Jaya State Assemblyman Lee Hwa Beng, organised a movie premiere to raise fund to purchase 2 Perodua Kembara and 4 motorbikes, which had been donated to the Subang Jaya District Police to beef up their patrol frequencies in the neighbourhood.

The USJ-Subang Jaya grassroots initiatives moved a step further. The residents, led by Christopher Ng and Robert Chan, have come up with their own SMS alert system to jointly fight crime with the police and tackle issues affecting the local community.

The self-funded SMS alert system was very well received, and to date, the service has about 1,900 registered members who reside in the area.

The success prompted the USJRA, currently chaired by PC Yeoh to take the initiative a step further. In mid-August, the fragmented grassroots initiatives were put on a collective platform via USJRA, an NGO registered with the Registrar of Societies, and the residents carried out a soft launch for a full-fledged SMS Crime Alert service, called the SJ Alert.

Assemblyman Lee also provided a seed fund of RM5,000 towards the crucial project take-off and the subsequent running of the service. This blogger has been honoured to be an eye-witness to this noble deed.

Under the service, SJ Alerts issues alerts via SMS to registered subscribers on crime, emergencies, disruption of services and even community events in Subang Jaya, USJ and Putra Heights.

This afternoon, Inspector-General of Police Musa Hassan will make himself available to officially launch the project.

Screenshots was made to understand that Tun Haniff Omar, the former IGP who now resides in USJ, has been instrumental to help connect the residents to Bukit Aman.

Click here for more detail
www.sjalert.com.my for the details.

Source of the above article
http://www.jeffooi.com/

pcyeoh
01-10-2006, 11:32 AM
Sunday Star
Sunday October 1, 2006

Fighting crime with SMS alerts

BY DHARMENDER SINGH

PETALING JAYA: Subang Jaya and USJ residents have come up with their own SMS alert system called the SJ Alert to jointly fight crime with the police and tackle issues affecting the local community.

Read here for the rest of the report
http://www.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2006/10/1/nation/15598945&sec=nation

AllUrban
01-10-2006, 06:10 PM
Congratulations to everyone who worked so hard for this service. Well done! :)

The launching was quite an event, with a great location (south court of the mall) and great turnout.

I was also very pleased to hear the mention of the usj.com.my forum at least twice during the introductions...

Cheers, m

orchipalar
02-10-2006, 11:05 AM
Err...the various mainstream media newspapers...have carried the successful Official Launch of SJ Alert by the Royal Malaysian Police's - PDRM's IGP YDH Tan Sri Musa Hassan...at Subang Parade yesterday 1st October 2006.

Read more amongst others...BeritaHarian... (http://www.bharian.com.my/m/BHarian/Monday/Mukadepan/20061001234146/Article/) Utusan Melayu... (http://www.utusan.com.my/utusan/content.asp?y=2006&dt=1002&pub=Utusan_Malaysia&sec=Dalam_Negeri&pg=dn_01.htm) NST... (http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/nst/Monday/National/20061002085325/Article/local1_html) TheStar... (http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2006/10/2/nation/15602346&sec=nation&focus=1) TheChinaPress... (http://www.chinapress.com.my/content_new.asp?dt=2006-10-02&sec=mas&art=1002mc50.txt) n Malaysia's foremost influencial Blogger Jeff Ooi of Screeshots... (http://www.jeffooi.com/2006/10/crime_alerts_the_usjsubang_jay.php)

tupai
02-10-2006, 11:17 AM
Great show guys esp. those actively involved in this brilliant idea.

sorry i didn't attend...

Yang Amat Bermoto diUtara lato tupai :D

pcyeoh
02-10-2006, 12:52 PM
The police have been skeptical about SMS as there have been a number of incidents where the short messaging system has been abused to spread rumors, disrupting law and order.

But yesterday, two of Malaysia's Inspectors of Police, one retired and the other the incumbent, had come out to endorse SMS as a way to fight crime. It was the first of its kind in Malaysia.

That's because the residents have initiated a grassroot project using available technologies--Internet and SMS--as a self-help for crime prevention and community networking.

In his speech delivered when launching the SJ Alert in Subang Parade yesterday, the Inspector General of Police, Tan Sri Musa Hassan said more residential associations should follow the lead of the USJ Residents Association (USJRA), which set up the SJ Alert.

He was quoted as saying "It is a great initiative as it benefits residents as well as the police. However, this SJ Alert is not meant to replace or overshadow the police’s Rakan Cop but rather complement it."

Present at the launch were Subang Jaya state assemblyman Datuk Lee Hwa Beng, Member of Parliament YB Loh Seng Kok, Mr Jayabarathy, Dep Chairman of the Malaysian Crime Prevention Foundation, the Selangor Chief Police Officer Datuk Yahaya Udin and Subang Jaya district police chief ACP Mohd Fuad Talib. Also present are the 3 heads from SS 17, USJ 8 and Putra Height police stations and many other senior officers from Bukit Aman and the Selangor Polis Kontinjen. We also have the presence of the various Jawatan Kuasa Penduduk (JKP) members . Our No.1 resident supporter, the ex IGP Tun Hanif Omar was there with his wife to support us. More than 300 residents signed up for this free but useful service yesterday.

After the launch the VIPs were found showing this special sms alert which they have received -

"Dear Residents, I welcome you to the official launch of SJ Alert SMS System @ Subang Parade." From: Tan Sri Musa bin Dato' Hj Hassan, Ketua Polis Negara 01/10/06.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v732/pcyeoh/registering.jpg
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pcyeoh
02-10-2006, 01:05 PM
More photos on the event

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v732/pcyeoh/funwithsms.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v732/pcyeoh/smsshow.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v732/pcyeoh/tunhavingfun.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v732/pcyeoh/sjalertsticker.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v732/pcyeoh/doorgift.jpg
The first 200 subscribers who were the early birds and the first 100 who signed up as subscribers received these plates as
collector's item as souvenirs

robertec
05-10-2006, 12:16 PM
Have you collected your SJ Alert Car Stickers?

Have you seen this :


http://www.sjalert.com.my/images/sjalertcarsticker.jpg
http://www.sjalert.com.my/sjalert%20member.htm


The SJ Alert Car Sticker is becoming quite a collectors’ item. Even the Police are harping for us to give them more. Very soon you may find it on all Police vehicles in Subang Jaya. So don't miss out.

So how do you get it?

There is a follow-up dialogue with YB Datuk Fu Ah Kiow, Deputy Internal Security Minister on

Date : Saturday, 7 October, 2006
Time : 10.00am - 12 noon
Venue : Dewan Theatrette at MPSJ Building (USJ 5), Subang Jaya

You can claim your Sticker by showing any SJ Alert message.

See you guys at MPSJ on Saturday.
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mimosa
05-10-2006, 01:22 PM
I subscribed by SMS on 16.08.2006, but since then have not received any messages. I gave my name, area and email.

How do I check if I am in the subscriber list? Sorry, I'm a noob. :o

robertec
05-10-2006, 01:30 PM
If you have not received any SJ Alert since 16/08/2006 you are not properly registered.

Send me your details
Full Name
Full Address
Email Address
Mobile No.

by PM or to my Mobile Phone 012-6933996

and I register you before we send out the next message.
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pcyeoh
05-10-2006, 01:38 PM
I agree with you Robert. The IGP himself grabbed a bundle of them and walked around after the launch of the SJ Alert and personally distributed them. I was one of the lucky few whose SJ Alert sticker has the finger print of the IGP on it. Sayang only lah that his print won't show up to the naked eye. Or else lagi valuable. He gave one to me when I was taking a close up shot on him giving them away. Unfortunately can't take my own photo or else lagi lebih value!!

AllUrban
05-10-2006, 01:49 PM
There is a follow-up dialogue with YB Datuk Fu Ah Kiow, Deputy Internal Security Minister on

Date : Saturday, 7 October, 2006
Time : 10.00am - 12 noon
Venue : Dewan Theatrette at MPSJ Building (USJ 5), Subang Jaya

See you guys at MPSJ on Saturday.
Can this announcement also be posted onto the main entry page of usj.com.my.

Cheers, m

pcyeoh
05-10-2006, 02:04 PM
AllUrban, can you excite your students to participate in this dailogue? Morever, part of the program is the handing over of the Kembaras to the police that will be witnessed by Fu Ah Kiow. We are also trying to trace and invite those big timer donors to witness this ceremony.

AllUrban
05-10-2006, 03:45 PM
I have let them know about it in the online forum, and I will make an announcement tomorrow.

I think my Law students will find it especially interesting as we are looking at criminal law and crime right now.

Cheers, m

pcyeoh
06-10-2006, 09:50 AM
Friday October 6, 2006

SJ crime statistics via SMS
By CHARLES FERNANDEZ
charlesf@thestar.com.my

RESIDENTS of Subang Jaya and USJ are always coming up with crime prevention initiatives and the latest is the launch of the “SJ Alert” SMS service.

Read details of the last Sunday launch reported in Metro Star today
http://www.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2006/10/6/central/15618604&sec=central


Quote by the IGP at the launch

“We welcome such a move and the SMS service launched today and the first of its kind ever organized by a community as a crime-prevention initiative must be applauded,’’

Musa Hassan went on to say that the crime-prevention initiative is something that should be emulated by other housing communities as these could prove to be a success story in combating crime which the police alone cannot fight.

Let us not disappoint the IGP who has put so much faith in us to make this SJ Alert project, the first of its kind in the country a success. We will again invite him to celebrate our first anniversary one year from now hopefully with 10,000 subscribers. In fact the IGP is encouraging you to do so when he ended his speech at the launch by saying “SJ Alert” SMS service is provided free to all USJ, Subang Jaya and Putra Heights residents are urged to subscribe to be well-informed on the crime statistics in the area."

Thank you Tan Sri Musa Hassan for promoting this SJ Alert for us. Go to www.sjalert.com.my to make this happen.

birdy
10-10-2006, 12:32 AM
Go to www.sjalert.com.my to make this happen.
I have registered myself via the SMS number shown in the website... wonder will there be any confirmation of registration...coz I sent yesterday which is Sunday... am not very sure whether I am in or not...

pcyeoh
10-10-2006, 12:55 AM
YB Datuk Fu Ah Kiow - Timbalan Menteri Keselamatan Dalam Negeri
Crime is the result of social problems. The great presence of immigrants whether legal or illegal also aggravates the situation. If Malaysians is not so dependent on imported labour, we would have solved two great problems – unemployment and crime.

YB Dato Mohd Johari bin Baharum - Timbalan Menteri Keselamatan Dalam Negeri
Today, we want the police not to stay in the police barracks. The government will rather buy houses in residential houses and house its police force there. This will not only make the presence of the police greatly felt by the residents but also allow better interaction between the police and the residents. With this, the would be criminals will be deterred.

YB Loh Seng Kok - Ahli Parliament Kelana Jaya
Parliament is in the process of reclassifying snatch theft under robbery (serious crime) rather that theft thus raising the penalty from a mere fine and a jail sentence of 6 months to whipping and 20 years jail term.

Dato Lee Hwa Beng - ADUN Subang Jaya
I will work with the Local Authority on the issue of back lane where residents in their quest to curb crime face a uphill task to get MPSJ to approve. Lately, the process is so bureaucratic that the onus lies on the applicants to get 10 government bodies to have no objection before the Local Authority gives its approval. On another matter, it is definitely not proper for local residents to erect security pondoks or laid gantry across the road to check on the entry when the road is a public one. It only requires one person to file a complaint to get the local authority summon the local residents to remove such barrier or pondok. He said that he normally talk to the complainant and in most cases resulted in the complaints withdrawn.

DSP Tuan Fuad - OCPD Subang Jaya
He shared some do’s and donts’ in view of the coming Raya holidays that stretches up to 9 days. His practical tips includes informing the local police and your good neighbours when your house will be vacant so that these people can be your ears and your eyes. The police will ronda your area if you bother to inform them. On a happy note, he told those who were present the good news. Lately, the police has captured the second member of the infamous Camry Gang. Two down, one more to go.

AllUrban - USJ Forumer
I find it hard to understand that the salary of the Malaysia police is so low compared to where I come from. By the way I am from Canada. Not only their salary is low, but the purchasing power of the ringgit is weak. In Canada a can of coke is $ 1 whereas in Malaysia is RM 1.50. The police in Canada is paid about $ 3,000 per month but here the experience ones are paid RM 1,000. Unless and until the local police is paid a decent salary, they will not command the respect they deserved and also the police force will have great problem in enticing people to want to join the police force.
[Pak Lah has dismissed any salary revision of the police force as the civil service salary scheme have to be seen in totality and as such he said that the government has no money to review their pay. Sorry to the men in blue.]

Chinese Lady resident - member of Subang Jaya Senior Citizen Club(sorry didn’t get her name)
I am a senior citizen and I can speak well in English but not Bahasa. The same goes to my peer group. One serious problem we face when we want to make a police report, there seem to be totally lack of policeman who could take our report as they don’t speak English at all neither are we able to speak Bahasa and we ended up wasting our time there.
[Dato Johari commented in jest that there are people in MCA party who are most willing to help out]

Photo gallery

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pcyeoh
10-10-2006, 01:12 AM
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Presentation of the Kembara to Chief Inspector Yusuf, OCS Balai Polis Subang Jaya

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Presentation of the Kembara to ASP Tuan Shanmugam, OCS Balai Polis USJ 8

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Presentation of two motorcycles to ASP Tuan Shanmugam, OCS Balai Polis USJ 8. The Balai Polis Subang Jaya also
receive their fair share of the bikes

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YB Loh Seng Kok

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AllUrban during question time

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Senior citizen also has a voice to be heard

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v732/pcyeoh/pressconference.jpg
And as all good thing must end, it ended with a Press Conference.

Flynn
10-10-2006, 02:03 AM
Chinese Lady resident - member of Subang Jaya Senior Citizen Club(sorry didn’t get her name)
I am a senior citizen and I can speak well in English but not Bahasa. The same goes to my peer group. One serious problem we face when we want to make a police report, there seem to be totally lack of policeman who could take our report as they don’t speak English at all neither are we able to speak Bahasa and we ended up wasting our time there.
[Dato Johari commented in jest that there are people in MCA party who are most willing to help out]
I think she said her name was Rosalyn or Rosalind.

robertec
12-10-2006, 01:43 PM
I am pleased to inform you that since the last I report on 29/09/2006 our membership now stands at 2,600, our new target is 3,000.

We are getting registration for the Service everyday through our short code number, Orchi's Mobile Number and email so the figure of 3,000 will be breached before the end of the month.

I am also pleased to announce that

MP for Kota Raja – YB S Vigneswaran a/l M Sanasee
Adun for Sri Muda – YB Datuk Amzah bin Umar
have elected to subscribe to SJ Alert as they are the MP and Adun for USJ23 to USJ27 and Putra Heights.

This is besides

MP for Kelana Jaya – YB Loh Seng Kok
Adun for Subang Jaya – YB Dato’ Lee Hwa Beng
who have been members since the day we started.

Please also note that we have now started opening up our services for Advertising and also the sending of Community messages. For details visit our website. http://www.sjalert.com.my

For those who have yet to claim their SJ Alert Car Stickers, please refer to the "Spot a Member" page for details on how to get your hands on the stickers. http://www.sjalert.com.my/sjalert%20member.htm

Tell your friends about the SJ Alert Banners outside the various Balai Polis in Subang Jaya, indicating how to register for SJ Alert. They can also get the hardcopy registration forms from inside the Balai Polis.
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Flynn
12-10-2006, 05:10 PM
Several people voiced concerns in the initial posts of this thread about making available residents' H/P numbers to advertisers. The assurance was given that ads will be moderated (and kept to a minimum?). While I am grateful for the initiatives re SJ Alert and understand the need for it to be funded, I hope not to be continually disturbed by the beeping of my phone.

We were asked for our full names and addresses. Will the potential advertisers also be given those if SMS is all they're after?

robertec
12-10-2006, 06:15 PM
Several people voiced concerns in the initial posts of this thread about making available residents' H/P numbers to advertisers. The assurance was given that ads will be moderated (and kept to a minimum?). While I am grateful for the initiatives re SJ Alert and understand the need for it to be funded, I hope not to be continually disturbed by the beeping of my phone.

We were asked for our full names and addresses. Will the potential advertisers also be given those if SMS is all they're after?

Hopefully, this is the very last time that I will need to explain this.

I am the only one with all the data. The name and address that we ask for is to verify the address of the subscriber, it is for no other purpose, besides it is not even in the SMS database.

As I have mentioned before, we are in total control of the database, so how much do you think we will be selling it for?

I really don't want to sound arrogant here, so pardon my french... if you feel that you will be bothered by the continual beeping of your mobile phone by being an SJ Alert Member, just de-register here: http://www.sjalert.com.my/deactivation.htm
I will remove you, full name, address and all, so quickly you'd never even remember that you were ever a member.

I really don't think that any of the other Committee Members would take too kindly to such remarks about their integrity.

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tan_r
12-10-2006, 06:27 PM
... if you feel that you will be bothered by the continual beeping of your mobile phone by being an SJ Alert Member, just de-register here:
Thank you robertec for saving me the trouble with my counting till TEN. I second you!

Flynn
12-10-2006, 06:43 PM
I apologise if my post and question did not correctly reflect what I meant. It was a sincere question that I asked and in no way was it meant to cast any aspersions on the integrity of any Committee Member. If I had not trusted their integrity, I would not even have participated in the initiative in the first place. My mention of the hope bit was just my musings, not a complaint.

I prefaced my post by saying that I was grateful for the SJ Alert and I meant it. How else could I have phrased the question without offending anyone, because that was my intent? If you read my post again, minus any self-imposed nuances, can you not see that there is another way of looking at it? Will you not give me the benefit of the doubt that it was a sincere, objective question?

And there was really no need to count to ten.

kwchang
12-10-2006, 06:57 PM
Flynn, I am very sure these guys have thought it all out. My take on this is that only the one in charge of sending the SMS will be doing it for the advertisers - hence advertisers will not have access to your mobile-number to spam with in the future. I think that makes sense.

orchipalar
12-10-2006, 07:08 PM
Err dear Flynn:)...perhaps you do not understand about the following operations of SJ Alert...

1. The Database is kept in 1 appointed n authorized server/service provider...
2. The Database/Website is controlled n maintained by 1 appointed n authorized administrator...
3. ONLY 3 committee members are appointed n authorized to operate the SJ Alert server/service provider...
4. ALL 10 committee members have privileged access to the SJ Alert server/service provider...
5. 2 prior approvals from available committee members must be obtained...before ANY SMS Crime alert...community message...announcement n including ANY future promotional SMS...would be sent to members of SJ Alert.
6. NOBODY Else has access to the Database kept in the safe upkeep n maintenance by the server/service provider...
7. NO PROMOs or ADVERTs would be envisaged for broadcast...without the AGREEMENT from the absolute majority of the committee members...
8. NO FEES would be accepted or any expenses paid...without the absolute consent by the separate...n relevant USJRA committee...
9. SJ Alert is a 100% Non-Profit community programme...
10. SJ Alert is available to ALL residents of USJ/SJ/PutraHeights/n parts of Sunway only...for FREE.

Orchi hopes the above would be suffice to further clarify your doubts...if any.

Flynn
12-10-2006, 07:17 PM
I had not thought that only one party would be sending out the SMS instead of making the details available to advertisers. I didn't think that asking a simple question would earn me such a blast. Thank you for explaining, and yes that makes sense.

Flynn
12-10-2006, 07:24 PM
Orchi hopes the above would be suffice to further clarify your doubts...if any.
Yes, thank you. No, I didn't know about the logistics, and I was merely asking whether the addresses would also be given out (so that I can expect an even greater number of junk mail in my postbox than I already have). Both you and kwchang have kindly explained, so let's close the subject on my query.

orchipalar
12-10-2006, 07:48 PM
Err dear Flynn:)...as Orchi mentioned before...the SJ Alert committee comprises of independent PRO-Active resident members...NWatch group...U.S.J. Residents Association(USJRA)...n leaders representing the various residents group in the community...

So far...much time n energy...n costs of setting up the SJ Alert community programme n SJ Alert website...from the beginning of it all...thru the Beta phase...until the recent official launch of SJ Alert...n ALL costs inclusive of every SMS sent to SJ Alert members thus far...have been sponsored/donated out from their own pocket expenses...significantly from the NWatch leaders...n substantially from the ADUN of Subang Jaya...

Above all that...the SJ Alert committee members...have always placed their highest concerns on future envisage for suitable adverts n sponsors...to exercise any available options...to ensure that the sponsors n advertizers being sought after...would NOT only add sponsorship n contributions to the running costs of SJ Alert...but also would offer regular promos that would be value added exclusively to benefit the SJ Alert resident members...thru this programme...

Flynn
12-10-2006, 07:55 PM
Yes, I do know all that, and as I have said several times, am appreciative of all the efforts and I know that there are costs involved. None of that entered into my original post. It was a simple question about logistics, which you and kwchang have explained. It only actually needed a yes or no answer in the first place. No explanations given would have been fine and I hadn't expected any. As I said, I did not question the integrity of those who've worked hard to put SJ Alert into action. To be honest, I regret even asking that now and if I could, I'd delete my post.

robertec
13-10-2006, 11:58 AM
Bonjour, firstly let me apologise again for the French outburst.

See, I have apologised twice (once in the post and now) and yet what I have wrote is still not palatable.

Users of Mobile Phones should learn how to tone down the alerts whenever a new message arrives etc…

It would have sufficed to say that we will do things in a responsible manner. But for those who know me, age is catching up and I just like to indulge, I really have to learn to control myself.

OK, let’s put it all behind us Flynn

Au revoir

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Flynn
13-10-2006, 01:21 PM
Bonjour, firstly let me apologise again for the French outburst.
Your apology is accepted.



OK, let’s put it all behind us Flynn

I already have. Let's move on.

AllUrban
13-10-2006, 02:13 PM
This article in the (http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2006/10/11/central/15675474&sec=central) Wednesday Star described the presentation of the kembaras and the m-cycles, as well as the dialogue later on.

A fine job all around

Cheers, m

Teeque
19-10-2006, 03:18 AM
We can now zap the criminals (http://www.clas.com.my/#).

mebbe we can apply this concept in our community security, with the help of our pdrm friends?

robertec
19-10-2006, 11:25 AM
I am pleased to inform you that since the last I reported on 12/10/2006 our membership now stands at 2,750.

I am also pleased to announce that

MP for Puchong – YB Lau Yeng Peng
ADUN for Kinrara – YB Dr Kow Cheong Wei
are also now on SJ Alert

The new Special Branch Chief of Selangor
SAC II Tuan Mohd Shukri bin Dahlan
has also been included in SJ Alert

We have included a Feedback page on the SJ Alert Website and also a news and comments page to keep member abreast with the latest news.

Here is a breakdown of the members from the various Precincts in SJ/USJ/PH

Associate Member - 25
Police Group - 11
Putra Heights - 58
SS12 - 27
SS13 - 1
SS14 - 221
SS15 - 33
SS16 - 2
SS17 - 44
SS18 - 79
SS19 - 62
Sunway - 24
TP - 8
USJ1 - 17
USJ10 - 3
USJ11 - 146
USJ12 - 86
USJ13 - 60
USJ14 - 43
USJ15 - 5
USJ16 - 538
USJ17 - 27
USJ18 - 415
USJ19 - 5
USJ2 - 131
USJ20 - 51
USJ22 - 4
USJ23 - 104
USJ24 - 4
USJ26 - 5
USJ27 - 9
USJ3 - 91
USJ3A - 48
USJ4 - 79
USJ5 - 104
USJ6 - 91
USJ7 - 1
USJ8 - 18
USJ9 - 70

Lookout for the Special Messages and Police Advisories during this holiday period.
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Teeque
03-11-2006, 01:54 AM
Where are they? Hv you seen them (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v732/pcyeoh/usj8-1.jpg) anywhere, in action???

ghkok747
22-11-2006, 12:16 PM
Where are they? Hv you seen them (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v732/pcyeoh/usj8-1.jpg) anywhere, in action???
Hmmm ... just wondering ... maybe they need us to donate the petrol also ... never thought of that ...

kellyk
13-12-2006, 01:40 AM
Just wondering, am I able to register 2 handphone numbers for the same household?

I just sent an email to Robertec with 2 handphone numbers to register as new members. Hopefully both can be registered. What about adding new handphone numbers to the same address?

Thank you for the great initiative. Keep up the good work... Bravo...

orchipalar
13-12-2006, 01:51 AM
Err dear Kelly...welcome to the webforum...

It is normal to register few members' mobile phones from the same household with SJ Alert...

n asap...your additional ones would be processed by Robert. TQ.

pcyeoh
14-12-2006, 05:44 PM
The Star
Thursday December 14, 2006

Cops told to reduce crime rate

KAJANG: Three districts in Selangor have recorded high incidents of crime and the police in other districts have been ordered to help reduce the crime rate in the trouble spots.

State police chief Deputy Comm Datuk Ismail Omar singled out Ampang Jaya, Petaling Jaya and Subang Jaya as the districts worst hit by criminal activities, including serious crimes.

http://www.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2006/12/14/nation/16313350&sec=nation


Notice what these 3 districts have in common? Their names all end with the word JAYA. Even Subang Jaya notches out the notorious Klang to clinch the top 3 spots. Are we that Jaya to be intimidated by all these criminal activities? What are we going to do about it? I notice that since the Camry gang is doing a limbo rock by lying so low, we are beginning to feel complacent. Folks, share with us what else the community should be doing bring down this crime index.

ghkok747
15-12-2006, 07:05 PM
The Star
Thursday December 14, 2006

Cops told to reduce crime rate

KAJANG: Three districts in Selangor have recorded high incidents of crime and the police in other districts have been ordered to help reduce the crime rate in the trouble spots.

State police chief Deputy Comm Datuk Ismail Omar singled out Ampang Jaya, Petaling Jaya and Subang Jaya as the districts worst hit by criminal activities, including serious crimes.

http://www.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2006/12/14/nation/16313350&sec=nation


Notice what these 3 districts have in common? Their names all end with the word JAYA. Even Subang Jaya notches out the notorious Klang to clinch the top 3 spots. Are we that Jaya to be intimidated by all these criminal activities? What are we going to do about it? I notice that since the Camry gang is doing a limbo rock by lying so low, we are beginning to feel complacent. Folks, share with us what else the community should be doing bring down this crime index.
Change the name ? ... sorry, just joking.

I think patroling has to be stepped up. We must switch from a "reactive mode" to a "pre-emptive" mode. Don't wait for a crime to happen. The level of crime is so high that it doesn't work anymore to wait for someone to report a crime before taking action. Police patrols, joint patrols, voluntary patrols, etc. .... constantly looking for suspiscious characters, and equipped with the authority to stop, question, take into custody any suspicious character. Criminals don't just drive into Subang Jaya and decide "ah, let's rob that house". They patrol around all the time to look for targets. That's when they should be picked up ... not when they have already struck. I know - easier said than done. But a pre-emptive strike is necessary and more effective when the crime level is so high.

Just my two cents worth ...

kellyk
22-12-2006, 12:20 AM
Err dear Kelly...welcome to the webforum...

It is normal to register few members' mobile phones from the same household with SJ Alert...

n asap...your additional ones would be processed by Robert. TQ.

Thank you orchi... Robert replied to me despite being on holiday. So dedicated...I am impressed....

I received my first SJ Alert message today. Thank you so much for your time, Robert and the rest of the committee...

orchipalar
23-12-2006, 08:35 PM
Err...arising from an URGENT call for Donations to the flood victims in the affected states of southern Peninsular Malaysia...

SJ Alert Committee has decided to utilized the SJ Alert Community Programme to disseminate the calls for HELP to ALL its Registered Members...

The following SJ Alert SMS has just been broadcasted to ALL Members:-

"Urgent Need CASH/ClothesBlankets/Packed Foodstuff/Household Items for Flood Victims.

Please Send To: Masjid Al-Mukminun @ USJ 2/4S.
Daily Collection: 12 to 9 pm

Please HELP! TQ."

Merry Christmas to ALL...

orchipalar
03-01-2007, 10:38 PM
January 2, 2007 18:21

鞋店少東捉匪中搶
持械如巡邏隊
4人匪幫夜尋獵物

報導:蘇天賜
攝影:潘嘉威

沙登大街繁忙又熱鬧,成為匪徒的幹案地點。
(吉隆坡2日訊)沙登大街頻發生罪案,村民怒吼治安失控,更揭發4名印尼人有如巡邏隊,夜間駕車在大街一帶 巡視,卻不是為保護村民,而是持械打搶村民。

這些4人幫經常在晚上駕車在沙登大街一帶巡邏,尋找獵物,一發現目標即下車持械打槍,以致人心惶惶,人人喊 怕怕!

由于多名村民中招,揭發此事,希望其他人提高警惕。

http://www.chinapress.com.my/content_new.asp?dt=2007-01-03&sec=local&art=0103lk01.txt

January 3, 2007 17:42

3鎗匪連環劫
搶預付卡批發商開3鎗
(八打靈再也3日訊)3名疑是華裔鎗匪今早相信幹下連環劫,搶劫手機預付卡批發商后,再跟蹤1輛馬賽地至大 城堡,搶走車主3萬令吉財物,前后開出3鎗!

由于2宗案件的干案手法及匪徒模樣极相似,警方不排除幹案者屬同一批匪徒。

http://www.chinapress.com.my/content_new.asp?dt=2007-01-04&sec=malaysia&art=0104mb55.txt

Monday January 1, 2007

Shop hit by robbers twice in a day

SUBANG JAYA: It was a bad end to 2006 for the owner of a medical shop here. His premises was hit by robbers twice, once successfully, yesterday.

In the second incident at about 8.15pm, a different robber who was armed with a revolver entered the shop, but the owner’s maid screamed for help.

Wong Kee Fatt, who was manning the shop next door, heard her screams and rushed to the medical shop and grappled with the robber.

During the struggle, Wong was shot in his abdomen and the robber escaped in a car parked outside.

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2007/1/1/nation/16456848&sec=nation

Err buddies...immediately...please be alerted of the above serious crime bulletins...on robberies that had occurred within the last 2 days or so...within the confine of the IPD Subang Jaya Police HQ in Seri Kembangan...which covers USJ/Subang Jaya/PutraHeights n parts of Bandar Sunway...

From the above reported robbery cases' suspects n their modus operandi...you should be on the lookout for...

1. 4 Armed Male robbery suspects believed to be Indonesians in Proton Perdana...or other model of cars which had NO registration plates...n are believed to be stolen vehicles...lurking in the neighbourhood near to you...

2. 3 Armed Male robbery suspects believed to be Chinese in a Mercedes Benz E230...or BLUE Proton Wira...which are believed to be stolen vehicles with false registration plates...lurking in the neighbourhood near to you...

Please stay on HIGH alert...n report to the nearest Police stations with as much details of the suspects n vehicles as possible...on any suspicious characters in vehicles lurking in your neighbourhood...

IPD Subang Jaya : 8948 4822
Balai Polis SS17 : 5633 2222
Balai Polis USJ 8 : 5635 6904
Balai Polis Bandar Sunway : 5638 2122
Balai Polis Putra Heights : 5192 2404
IPD Polis Shah Alam : 5510 2222, 5510 2220

Details of contact numbers to the nearest Police stations...are also located in SJAlert Website - www.sjalert.com.my ...n www.nwatch.net.my

orchipalar
08-01-2007, 03:36 PM
Err buddies...much thanks to PCYeoh n Patrick Tan...The Star has published this article today... (http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2007/1/8/central/16481798&sec=central)

n a while ago...Orchi received a phone call personally from Tuan OCPD Mohd. Fuad...who has also conveyed his appreciation...to ALL existing members n committee of SJAlert...for being supportive n believing in this community crime alert service...

kokomo
04-02-2007, 11:15 AM
Actually ah ... like the case of robbery happend in Subang Parade ... will/should SJ Alert be sending sms to alert all the members of SJ Alert? If I had not login to the forum early this morning I wouldn't have known bout it.

And if I was around the area, and it happen, I wouldn't have known bout it and got myself into the situation. I do hope if police are not fast enough to be at the scene, at least the sms can reached us to inform us bout it and we can actually avoid using that road/going there (for those who are already there then too bad'lah).

Please do consider bout it, cos Subang Parade is also IN Subang Jaya.

CCY
04-02-2007, 02:25 PM
Kokomo....echoing your sentiments here as well..
It use to be an advance alert then in the early stages and now into a late report..??

robertec
05-02-2007, 11:59 AM
Actually ah ... like the case of robbery happend in Subang Parade ... will/should SJ Alert be sending sms to alert all the members of SJ Alert? If I had not login to the forum early this morning I wouldn't have known bout it....................


We did receive a report from Mior Hasafi from USJ5 on 03/02/07 at 10.54.05 PM through the SJ Alert Website Feedback Page informing us of the robbery. This was the actual message:

03-Feb-2007 - There was a serious robbery in Subang Parade tonight. One of the robber got away and might not be out of Subang Jaya tonight if the there is a road block. Please be careful.

Whilst we are happy that such reports are sent to us, you must appreciate that it is impossible for us to constantly monitor the website (I read the message only on Sunday). It would be better if the message is sent directly to our mobile phones for us to evaluate if such messages can be sent out. (I will put up the necessary notice on the SJ Alert Website Feedback page for this to happen in future.)

As I mention, we need to evaluate if the message can be sent out. We have a Committee of 10 responsible Community Leaders and we need a minimum number of approvals from them to send out any messages.

In the case of “criminal case” messages, we need to verify the reports with the Police and seek their approval to send out such messages if it is an on going investigation. We cannot jeopardise the hardwork of our Police. We will also send out Police messages on the instructions of the Police Chiefs.

I hope everyone appreciates the situation that we are in. Everyone has different expectations and we will do our best to address all of them.

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robertec
05-02-2007, 12:30 PM
Kokomo....echoing your sentiments here as well..
It use to be an advance alert then in the early stages and now into a late report..??

It is important to remember that we are not some frontline early warning alert system for Crime. You want to know what we are actually all about, please take sometime and go to our website and read what we are trying to do.

To put this in its proper perspective, let me reveal something which could surprise you.

Many man hours are spent to prepare the weekly Crime Reports (I will not go into details about it how much time is spent) in order to keep Residents abreast of Criminal Activities and trends in and around SJ/USJ/PH on a weekly basis.

With a database of 2923 members in SJ Alert guess how many people actually view the weekly reports posted at the Website? In some weeks less than 100 views. Looks like nobody cares except only a few. The views only increase when I make some noise about it.

So it was finally decided that we send out the Crime Report SMS once in every 2 weeks.

And I have various requests to make out graphs etc..etc.. with the Polis reports, nothing is impossible to do, but show me that there is real interest first.

But we plod on, for we feel that SJ Alert is still a useful Community tool, even without the Bells and Whistles that everyone is expecting of it.

Your real support is needed (even if it is just viewing the Crime Reports) not just your lip service.

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cindyen
09-02-2007, 04:18 AM
just wondering what if sometimes the robber comees near you, say may be you're walking in the middle of the night , or you go to the car to take something important and you see someone approaching,
dun think that we'll have the time to message rite?
what if we call?
any suggestion any number to call once this situationwere about to happen?

since its middle of the nite its not so nice to disturb someone's sleep rite?

Teeque
09-02-2007, 04:34 AM
...any suggestion any number to call once this situationwere about to happen?

since its middle of the nite its not so nice to disturb someone's sleep rite?

Please stay on HIGH alert...n report to the nearest Police stations with as much details of the suspects n vehicles as possible...on any suspicious characters in vehicles lurking in your neighbourhood...

IPD Subang Jaya : 8948 4822
Balai Polis SS17 : 5633 2222
Balai Polis USJ 8 : 5635 6904
Balai Polis Bandar Sunway : 5638 2122
Balai Polis Putra Heights : 5192 2404
IPD Polis Shah Alam : 5510 2222, 5510 2220

Details of contact numbers to the nearest Police stations...are also located in SJAlert Website - www.sjalert.com.my ...n www.nwatch.net.my
answers ur questions?

cindyen
10-02-2007, 03:26 AM
what about if the robber points a knife and ask me to walk back to my home.. ? anywhere near to walk to ? since we don't have any security guard booth. :(

orchipalar
10-02-2007, 11:46 AM
what about if the robber points a knife and ask me to walk back to my home.. ? anywhere near to walk to ? since we don't have any security guard booth. :(Err buddy...should that happens to you...calmly confront the perpetrator(s)...

Tell him that your friend is nearby...you could make a call to get your friend to bring some cash that he demands...within 20 minutes or less.

Then you call OrchiPD...who is willing to do the necessary n arrive within a very short notice.

orchipalar
12-02-2007, 11:34 AM
Err buddies...the pioneering SJ Alert (http://www.sjalert.com.my/) crime prevention initiative has scored another milestone (http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2007/2/12/nation/16853371&sec=nation) in yesterday's launch of "Kempen Balik Kampung - Rumah Selamat" with the supports n cooperations from the IPD Subang Jaya...ADUN of Subang Jaya (http://hwabeng.org.my/)...NWatch (http://www.nwatch.net.my/) n the USJ Residents Association.

Kudos to the team of committee members comprising of...Robert Chan...Eileen Chia...PCYeoh...Patrick Tan...Raymond Tan...Melvin Lee...Teoh Teik Seng...Allan Hubbert...Teresa Ratnam n ALL those who have continuously been sacrificing their precious time n energy towards this pioneering community programme...

sarawakian
22-02-2007, 04:14 PM
Hi all,

Just wondering, why has SJ Alert suddenly stopped sending crime stats? I have not got mine for quite some time. When they launched it was good.

Also, I get greetings on Subway Sandwiches and CNY greets from politicians. Come on, I think that this should be kept for what SJ Alert is for, as I thought it is for crime prevention. Maybe, we should be strict otherwise it would be commercialised. Just my thoughts ya

yinxy
25-02-2007, 05:14 PM
Hi..
I was balik kampung during CNY holidays last Monday and back to usj last Saturday. when i reached home, i checked and found that there were few pieces of Borang Lawatan Polis in my mail box! they really patrol my house during cny holiday..impressive.. they came by in different time periods but mostly in the morning time. actually i thought that they will patrol in the middle of the night when everyone is asleep. or maybe they patrol in the middle of night without give borang. anyone seen police car patrolling during cny night/mid night ?
actually for 6 days i was away, I only received 5 days Borang lawatan. my house is in the good condition. however, many thanks to the Balik Kampung campaign organiser! *clapping* you have done a good job!
The morning when i reached my house, the police car is coming to patrol again. so to thank them, my hubby gave 2 ang pow to both the policemen. but, i do feel like giving them ang pow is not the correct way to thank them??? or better we are giving them oranges instead ? did you guys give them anything ?

pcyeoh
26-02-2007, 12:55 AM
Hi all,

Just wondering, why has SJ Alert suddenly stopped sending crime stats? I have not got mine for quite some time. When they launched it was good.

Also, I get greetings on Subway Sandwiches and CNY greets from politicians. Come on, I think that this should be kept for what SJ Alert is for, as I thought it is for crime prevention. Maybe, we should be strict otherwise it would be commercialised. Just my thoughts ya

I believe everyone who subscribes to this sms service knows that the SJ Alert provides this service FREE OF CHARGE and the 9 of us who are managing this SJ Alert know that this is a thankless job. But nevertheless we soldiered on. I don't find anything wrong when I received CNY greeting from my MP and state assemblyman. I don't see them as politicians per se. In any case by sending their greetings and they paying in full for it, they are helping us to finance our operation. We have been very tempted when approached by commercial people wanting to engage us to advertise for them but on the other hand we are also obligated to respect the privacy of our subcribers. That is why so far the subscribers have only received one commercial sms since we started back in Sept 2006 and even that one was a test case. SJ Alert also did mention that subscribers will also be receiving SMS Promotional Messages from time to time from various sponsors of this program which so far we have kept them to the very minimum. Without such funds from the commercial world, we don't know how long we can survive. Mind you by now we have some 3,030 odd members and still growing and sarawakian can go figure out how much it will cost us everytime we send out the crime report. We most welcome sarawakian's financial contributions in lieu of the politicians' greetings as a mean of self sustainment. By the way as Robert has made known earlier, the crime statistics will now be broacdcasted once a fortnight rather than weekly. This not only has to do with cost but also the trouble of getting the statistics. Hope everybody understands. I would like to reiterate that SJ Alert will always stick to its true cause - to be used as a tool to fight crime and not a mouth piece for politicians as rebutted by sarawakian.

sarawakian
26-02-2007, 12:04 PM
:)
I believe everyone who subscribes to this sms service knows that the SJ Alert provides this service FREE OF CHARGE and the 9 of us who are managing this SJ Alert know that this is a thankless job. But nevertheless we soldiered on. I don't find anything wrong when I received CNY greeting from my MP and state assemblyman. I don't see them as politicians per se. In any case by sending their greetings and they paying in full for it, they are helping us to finance our operation. We have been very tempted when approached by commercial people wanting to engage us to advertise for them but on the other hand we are also obligated to respect the privacy of our subcribers. That is why so far the subscribers have only received one commercial sms since we started back in Sept 2006 and even that one was a test case. SJ Alert also did mention that subscribers will also be receiving SMS Promotional Messages from time to time from various sponsors of this program which so far we have kept them to the very minimum. Without such funds from the commercial world, we don't know how long we can survive. Mind you by now we have some 3,030 odd members and still growing and sarawakian can go figure out how much it will cost us everytime we send out the crime report. We most welcome sarawakian's financial contributions in lieu of the politicians' greetings as a mean of self sustainment. By the way as Robert has made known earlier, the crime statistics will now be broacdcasted once a fortnight rather than weekly. This not only has to do with cost but also the trouble of getting the statistics. Hope everybody understands. I would like to reiterate that SJ Alert will always stick to its true cause - to be used as a tool to fight crime and not a mouth piece for politicians as rebutted by sarawakian.

Thanks! just wanted to know so at least this is clear. Yup, sponsors are good but we also need to ensure that this would not harm the noble idea. We appreciate all your hard work and was just concerned that this could have been manipulated. Anyway, I also heard that the police ronda was good. Kudos to the police on this. Any idea on stats on the last celebrations compared with the one recently?

clfoo
26-02-2007, 02:51 PM
considering this is a community service they don't owe us anything, so it should not be too much to ask to lookup for the report by clicking at the url http://www.sjalert.com.my/crime_report.htm when we r anxious instead of waiting for them to present it in our hp. so if everybody practice this then the sms cost can further be reduced by not sending statistics which can be view online .. but concentrate their true cause to fight crime or sending msg that need our immediate attention only .. 2 cents..

tictactoe
26-02-2007, 06:50 PM
I dun think receiving a few ads on the sms is a big deal esp to finance a cause like USJ Alert. I receive numerous ads on my h/phone and god knows where they got my h/phone no. from. I was actually pleasantly surprise to get CNY greetings frm the MP and ADUN. At least they bothered. Of course i know they r politicians fishing for future votes but at the very least they are doing their ground work. my 2 sens worth

robertec
27-02-2007, 01:46 PM
Just a little update on SJ Alert

We presently have 3037 Members

I have changed the Crime Reporting format slightly with effect from February 2007. I hope you like it. The Crime Report Week Ending 11/02/07 is here http://www.nwatch.net.my/article.cfm?id=194

Should you have ideas how it can be presented better just let me know.

The Police have been most helpful with the Crime Reports and it is not their fault that the reports are not posted, it is my entire fault. I have been indulging too much these past weeks.

Hopefully the Crime Report will be up to date by this Friday.

In the meantime, I should like to announce that Balai Polis Bandar Sunway will also be included into SJ Alert System. Here are the contact numbers for your records:

Balai Polis Bandar Sunway 03 5638 2122
C/I Tuan Supari Haji Muhammad 012 9702822

It is a good habit to note all the Numbers of the Balais and Chief Inspectors in the different zones of Subang in case of emergencies.


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sarawakian
27-02-2007, 04:55 PM
Hi there!!!

Thanks. We appreciate this as is is also noted that some may not have internet access in the office or at home. Just some useful info

Cheers

Magnolia
28-02-2007, 12:01 AM
hmm... which i'd like to share with you u all that, i was given a RM10 fake note from 7-11 USJ10 a month back. When I came back to the kid behind the counter and told him about the note, he just told me that they even have received RM50 fake note. What do we do about it? Not to mention our stolen shoes...

orchipalar
28-02-2007, 02:58 PM
Err..feels like Orchi owes everybody an apology also..for over indulging in CNY celebration n tight works schedules which require Orchi to travel a lot more in recent times..

Also Orchi shd be feeling guilty to pay for engaging SJAlert to broadcast a commercial message which some may feel dislikes by it..

Ini semoa Orchi punya pasal la..:rolleyes:

tan_r
28-02-2007, 07:29 PM
Orchi-san, heard that you are holidaying in Macau. ;) Sponsored holiday some more. :D

robertec
02-03-2007, 04:26 PM
The latest crime report in now available here
http://www.nwatch.net.my/article.cfm?id=195
http://www.nwatch.net.my/article.cfm?id=196

With these, the Crime Reports are now up to date.

Some observations from the reports.
1. Robbers are going after large sums of money kept at home or recently taken out of the Bank.
2. Car thieves are going after Wira, Waja and Citra cars.
3. Favourite Motor cycle for thieves is the Honda EX5

You be the detective, look for more in the weekly reports.
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robertec
10-03-2007, 03:02 PM
We presently have 3,042 members; however in order for us to be interesting to Corporate sponsors and really serve a purpose in this Community, we have to double if not triple our membership.

So to help SJ Alert continue to offer you this free service, may we request that, if at all possible, each current member get 5 new members (neighbours, relatives or friends who are residents of SJ/USJ/PutraHeights/Bandar Sunway) to activate their SJ Alert Services.

We intend to start putting up SJ Alert Banners in specific housing areas to get residents to register. We will follow it up with flyers further explaining to residents how to register.

And of course we will also be sending out SJ Alerts for this recruitment exercise.

There are presently:
<TABLE id=table89 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=400 border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>
<P align=center><FONT color=#ff0000 size=5><B>3 (Three) different ways to activate SJ Alert SMS Service</B></FONT></P>
<P align=justify><FONT color=#ff0000 size=2><B>***IMPORTANT NOTICE</B><BR>
</FONT><FONT size=2>You must read and accept </FONT><FONT color=#ff0000 size=2><A href="http://www.sjalert.com.my/disclaimer.htm"><FONT color=#996666>our disclaimer</FONT></A><FONT size=2> </FONT></FONT><FONT size=2>before you can activate our service. Your activation of our FREE Service indicates that you have read and understood our</FONT><FONT color=#ff0000 size=2> <A href="http://www.sjalert.com.my/disclaimer.htm"><FONT color=#996666>Terms and Conditions</FONT></A><FONT size=2> </FONT></FONT><FONT size=2>governing the usage of such Services.</FONT></P>
<P align=justify><B><FONT size=2>If you are a resident of Subang Jaya, USJ, Putra Heights or Bandar Sunway and wish to activate the service</FONT></B><FONT size=2><B>, just do one of the following :<BR>
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<TD align=middle bgColor=#ffff99><B><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff>1. To activate by SMS (You will not be charged)<BR>
</FONT><FONT face=Verdana size=2>Send an SMS with the following text<BR><BR>
</FONT></B><FONT face=Verdana color=#cb0303 size=2><B>SJAlert&lt;space&gt;Precinct&lt;*&gt;Full Name&lt;*&gt;Full Address<BR>
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<B>SJALERT USJ23*ALI WAHAD*22A,Jalan USJ23/3C</B></FONT>
<P align=center><B><FONT face=Verdana size=2>using the Mobile Phone on which you wish to receive our notification to either<BR>
</FONT><FONT face=Verdana size=5>32300 </FONT><FONT face=Verdana size=4>or +6012 2056885</FONT></B></P>
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<DIV align=center><FONT face=Verdana size=2><B><SPAN style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ff0000">Do not</SPAN> send to both numbers<BR>
</B><FONT color=#ff0000>Please note that we will not send an acknowledgement when you activate by SMS, this is done to save cost. We appreciate your kind understanding.</FONT></FONT></DIV></DIV></TD></TR>
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<P align=center><B><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff>2. To activate by email<BR>
</FONT><FONT face=Verdana size=2>Send an email with the following details<BR>
Please activate my SJ Alert Service<BR>
Your Name:<BR>
Your Precinct:<BR>
Your Address:<BR>
Your Mobile Phone No:<BR>
Your Email address:<BR>
to<BR>
</FONT></B><FONT face=Verdana size=2><A href="mailto:robertec@sjalert.com.my"><FONT color=#00cc00>robertec@sjalert.com.my</FONT></A> <BR>
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<P align=center><B><FONT face=Verdana color=#0000ff>3. On-Line Activation<BR>
<FONT color=#996666 size=2><A href="http://www.sjalert.com.my/online_activation.htm">Please submit your details here</A></FONT></FONT></B></P></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

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pcyeoh
23-03-2007, 10:52 PM
A posting in Malaysiakini by AllUrban our forumer


200 years of policing - looking to the future
Moaz Yusuf Ahmad
Mar 23, 07 4:18pm

The PDRM (Polis DiRaja Malaysia) will celebrate on Sunday 200 years of policing, and we must acknowledge and thank their work in serving and protecting our communities.

The job of a police officer is definitely a challenging, thankless one. It is sad that the police do not get the trust and support that they need to be effective in preventing and solving crimes. The community at large should take this time to become aware of what the police do for us.

That said, this 200-year anniversary is also a great opportunity for the police and the community to reflect on what can be done to improve policing and public safety in this nation. By changing the focus towards community-based policing and prevention of crime rather than solving of crimes, much more work can be accomplished.

The present IGP (inspector general of police) has done a lot to motivate the police to become more effective and professional. The federal government is responding to the challenge and improving police infrastructure and equipment so police operations can be more effective.

Now is the time to review a few important points:

First, the lack of trust and confidence that the public has in the police force needs to be addressed. It is totally unfortunate that many simply do not respect police officers and dismiss them so easily. Accusations of corruption and laziness are serious ones, and not something to be thrown out as a joke.

Second, let us be frank. Who among us would wish to make policing a career? The job is hard and thankless, and the salary that police officers receive (RM600 a month to start with) is a true embarrassment to the police officers and the community.

Even if the police officers receive cost of living allowances and housing, there is no justification for such a poor salary. The police need to be treated with respect and the first thing that should be done is to raise their starting salary to a reasonable living wage. With a higher salary, there will be more demand for police jobs, allowing the police to select better, high-quality candidates. Respect for the force will increase as service quality increases.

The focus of policing in Malaysia has shifted to solving crimes rather than preventing them. It should be the other way around. Police officers who work within the community will be far more effective than those who just solve crimes. To accommodate the shift to community-based policing, more officers need to be on the street.

The police should create a civilian corp to handle office tasks, files and paperwork. Perhaps some unemployed university graduates can be retrained to do these jobs effectively so that the police officers can spend their time on the street.

Interaction is the best way to prevent crime in the community. The Subang Jaya district police officers are taking great strides in this area, and improvements have been seen.

We should realise that to maximise interaction (and therefore, crime prevention), the police should be walking, first and foremost. If they need to cover more areas, bicycles and motorcycles will be effective. Police patrol cars should be the last and least important of the tools used by the police to keep watch on crime in the community.

We are all looking towards the day when our police officers are hailed for being effective at crime prevention as well as solving crimes. Like many in the community, I hope that the police will move forward and that the next 200 years will be even better for all except real criminals.

http://www.malaysiakini.com/letters/64958

orchipalar
25-03-2007, 09:58 AM
Err buddy AllUrban...The IGP Tan Sri Musa Hassan must have read your article... (http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2007/3/25/nation/17231551&sec=nation&focus=1) in Malaysiakini (http://www.malaysiakini.com/letters/64958)....very very well written indeed.

Orchi sokong...his calls for better deal for the cops...

pcyeoh
25-03-2007, 11:38 AM
The Sunday Star
March 25, 2007
By LOURDES CHARLES

IGP proposes better deal for cops

The police want 20% more in basic salary than any government servants so that more and better-qualified people will be keen to join the force, Inspector-General of Police Tan Sri Musa Hassan said.

“This must be done if we want to reduce corruption and also to reach out and provide better delivery to the public.

He added that he had submitted the proposal to the Public Service Department.

For your information, do you know that the starting salary of a 'mata kia' or police constable is RM690 while that of an inspector is only RM1,100? No wonder many are shying away from joining the police force. I always will remember AllUrban plea for a better remuneration scheme for our men in blue at every dialogue we have the police. He got his day when he repeated his plea when we have the dialogue with the two Deputy Minister who are the highest in the police echleon to be able to do something about it. And I believe there are many people like AllUrban who wanted the police to have a decent pay so that they have pride and high morale for their job. I wouldn't say such higher pay will deter them from being corrupted. There are many of them with the current pay scheme Only a handful of them are the 'black sheep' and even how much you increase their pay, they wouldn't reach to a level we read in the papers where police chiefs are living beyond their means.


AllUrban - USJ Forumer
I find it hard to understand that the salary of the Malaysia police is so low compared to where I come from. By the way I am from Canada. Not only their salary is low, but the purchasing power of the ringgit is weak. In Canada a can of coke is $ 1 whereas in Malaysia is RM 1.50. The police in Canada is paid about $ 3,000 per month but here the experience ones are paid RM 1,000. Unless and until the local police is paid a decent salary, they will not command the respect they deserved and also the police force will have great problem in enticing people to want to join the police force.
[Pak Lah has dismissed any salary revision of the police force as the civil service salary scheme have to be seen in totality and as such he said that the government has no money to review their pay. Sorry to the men in blue.]


At the dialogue (http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/upload/showthread.php?t=13758&page=10&pp=15) with the two Menteri, YB Datuk Fu Ah Kiow - Timbalan Menteri Keselamatan Dalam Negeri and YB Dato Mohd Johari bin Baharum - Timbalan Menteri Keselamatan Dalam Negeri on 10 October 2006.

patrick
25-03-2007, 12:42 PM
PC, perhaps we should start a drive to petition for much more pay for our cops? If the poor remuneration structure is not resolved, all other problems will persist.

Some of the finest police forces today have been through the mills too. HongKong police at one time in history was viewed as very corrupted. But with reformation and transformation, today the force is highly effective and efficient. If you have been to Hongkong, try talking to a cop on anything and you know what I mean.

Those interested can read a bit about the history of the HK police which I have extracted below:


History of HK Police.

The Modern Era 1945-67

In 1945, the force had to be built anew. The 200 expatriate officers who emerged from Stanley Internment Camp were in poor physical health. When the camp gates opened, many went back to their former stations, determined to ensure a peaceable transition to British rule. Later, most were repatriated for medical leave; many left Hong Kong. Back from China where they had spent the occupation years, many Chinese constables and sergeants reported for duty. Some had followed instructions and stayed in uniform during the occupation; force commanders had given discreet instructions for this, on the sensible grounds that it was better for Hong Kong policemen to be on the streets than anyone the Japanese military government were likely to recruit.

From this nucleus, a new force had to be forged. The people of Hong Kong were extremely fortunate in having Duncan Maclntosh appointed Commissioner in 1946. Th police force he took over was decimated, its equipment lost or looted, its stations largely destroyed. Strength was down to under 2,000. Maclntosh, who had been a policeman in Ireland and Malaya, came to Hong Kong from Singapore, where he had been Commissioner and had spent the war in internment. He was a truly formidable individual, unbending, determined and utterly professional.

His first concern was for his men. Pay rates were disgraceful. Housing in a society packed with refugees and ravaged by war was critically short. Maclntosh battled the government for increases in pay and better conditions for all ranks.

Hong Kong was in a desperate state. Former residents and refugees had flooded across the border. Some 45,000 hawkers crammed the narrow streets; robbers could dispose of stolen goods to a stallholder with instant ease. Triads had blossomed during the occupation and arrogantly ran drugs, vice and gambling rackets with seeming impunity.

Just as the extensive reforms initiated by Maclntosh were paying obvious dividends, tumultuous events in China swept Hong Kong once more into its turbulent wake. A new police headquarters was underway in Arsenal Yard, thousands of new recruits had been signed-up - many former soldiers or veterans of other forces, and morale was high. Then the climax of the civil war in China sent another wave of a million refugees pouring over the Shenzhen River or arriving from ports like Shanghai in crammed boats. Among them were battle-hardened nationalist soldiers, bitter and vengeful in defeat, armed and highly dangerous. Policemen were ambushed and murdered for their revolvers, kidnapping was endemic, violence was acute.

The Territory was tense. A string of fortified posts, still four decades later known as Maclntosh Cathedrals, was built along the border. From these strategic vantage points, police could look down as communist soldiers took over checkpoints on the other side of the narrow waterway.

Commissioner Maclntosh laid strong foundations for a force meant to last. His redoubtable, forceful personality had transformed the disjointed, shattered police into an effective and stable force. This had happened just in time for them to cope with a calamity, both natural and manmade.

Those hundreds of thousands of desperate refugees threw up shacks on every square foot of available land. On Christmas Day, 1953, a spark set one hut aflame. Whipped by dry winds, the fire raged through the motley collection of dwellings. By morning, 58,000 were homeless. Police helped to register them, the extent of suffering affecting everyone. From the ashes sprang the policies that led to the world's most successful public housing programme that now provides comfortable, well-designed homes for half of Hong Kong's people.

The early resettlement buildings, hurled up quickly to provide the most basic of shelter, were dreary concrete blocks. Those who lived in them were mostly new arrivals from China, many committed deeply to the defeated kuomintang. When a resettlement department official tried, on the Nationalist celebratory day of 10 October 1956, to pull down a political poster, there were angry protests. These led to appalling riots with old scores from across the border being settled in blood on Hong Kong streets. Inevitably, triad gangsters and street hoodlums plunged gleefully into the chaos, leading hordes of looters and rioters. From this eruption, too, there was to be a laudable result; it led directly to the foundation of what has become the Police Tactical Unit.

Their value was to be proved a decade later when a bizarre one-man protest over a five cents fare rise on the Star Ferry sparked off a riot that swept through Kowloon. In four nights of riots, some people were arrested. As usual, criminals moved with devastating efficiency; in the wake of demonstrations and protests, they sparked riots used as a cover for organised looting.

This brief flurry was but a rehearsal for the following spring. In China, the political turmoil spread and eventually lashed Hong Kong. Inflamed by rhetoric, fuelled by misplaced ideas of nationalism, huge mobs marched on Government House, waving aloft the Little Red Book and shouting slogans. Ranks of police faced crowds hurling insults, spitting, sometimes throwing acid. Never have strict discipline and stringent training paid such dividends. Staunchly, the thin khaki line held firm. Those early days in May 1967 were the start of a torrid, worrying summer. The mass protests tapered off, to be replaced by a campaign of terror and bombing. Bus and tram drivers were threatened, sometimes attacked if they went to work to keep Hong Kong on the move. Bombs were made in classrooms of left-wing schools and planted indiscriminately on the streets. Struggle committees were formed to foment strife against the government, although it was swiftly apparent none of the leaders to go to China to participate in the nationwide strife that was taking such an appalling toll, and the wealthy businessmen who had blessed the troubles, the "red fat cats" dispatched their children to universities in the much-disparaged United States and Britain.

Through the tear smoke and the terror, the police held firm. They never quavered.

Their loyalty was never in doubt. And in a remarkable show of support, the public rallied to their side. It was the common people of Hong Kong, and the police sworn to protect them, who turned the tide. The insanity gradually ebbed.

But was worse to come. In the most serious single incident of that year of violence, communist militia opened fire from the Chinese side of the border. Five policemen were cut down in the hail of bullets, nine others were injured. They were among a death toll which included bomb disposal officers killed trying to defuse booby-traps in city streets. The entire population was revolted by the bombings, particularly when a seven-year-old girl and her brother, aged two, playing outside their North Point home were killed.

China, too, was concerned about the worsening situation in Hong Kong. Large character posters went up in Guangzhou saying the troubles were caused by troublemakers trying to embarrass Beijing. By September, the situation had begun to quieten; the South China Morning Post reported, with a sense of wonder, a headline "Bomb-free day for Colony". It was to be many months, however, before the city returned to normal.

In April 1969, the men and women of the Force received a rare honour. The Queen bestowed the title Royal to the Hong Kong Police and Princes Alexandra became Commandant-General of both the regular and auxiliary forces.

Creating a Legend 1967-94

The Royal Hong Kong Police emerged from the confrontations of the 1960s with pride. Beneath the surface, however, grave problems faced both the community and its major law enforcement agency. Many of these problems could be traced directly to the manner in which Hong Kong had grown so spectacularly, in terms of population and economic might, in such a short time. In the 1930s, the city had been a rather sleepy port, a quiet colonial backwater whose economy and importance were dwarfed by Shanghai. The war brought trade to a halt. Then the communist victory in the civil war, the Korean War and its accompanying United Nations boycott on China cut off most commerce. Hong Kong was packed not only with refugees desperate for work but canny industrialists the Mainland who had arrived from the north on ships; packed in the holds was the textile machinery that was to sew a different sort of wealth for Hong Kong. Against this fast-changing, fluid background the force tried to cope with enormous change.



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patrick
25-03-2007, 12:43 PM
(cont. History of HK Police)

Despite significant improvements, pay was still low. Policemen were the poor relations, not only of business figures but also other public servants. There were serious shortages in management. Much of the day to day command of the force lay in the rigorous embrace of the Staff Sergeants, the senior Non-Commissioned Officers who ran affairs with iron hands. Commissioner Charles Sutcliffe, a resolute veteran of Africa who was inflexibly resolved on reform, went ahead despite great opposition to break the power of the mighty Staff Sergeants. It was widely recognised, universally known but never admitted that corruption was widespread throughout the force and the community. This wads largely due to poor wages. Money from gambling and other rackets helped pay for informants in the underworld whose tips helped greatly in curbing crime, leading to the notion that petty graft, at least, was tolerated.

It was to break the back of graft that Commissioner Sutcliffe changed the rank structure. The most basic change was an influx of young Non-Commissioned Officers to the new rank of Station Sergeant, taking direct control of operations out of the hands of the Staff Sergeants, the "Tigers" as they were known. There was also, following a sweeping review, a general increase in pay. But the biggest boost to fighting corruption came almost by accident, during a routine enquiry from a Canadian bank about the account of a man called Peter Fitzroy Godber. Charles Sutcliffe, when the matter was reported to him, was astounded; how had a Chief Superintendent amassed so much money? He started enquiries to find out. The results rocked not only the police, but all Hong Kong.

Peter Godber had been one of the heroes of 1967, confronting rioters on the streets. But when Charles Sutcliffe confronted him in June 1973, with proof of his hidden fortune, Godber fainted. It was a sensational interlude, and one with sweeping ramifications. Godber fled from Hong Kong, causing an immense upsurge of public protest. This led directly to the formation of a new law enforcement body, the Independent Commission Against Corruption, with enormous powers of investigation and arrest. Charged specifically to target graft, it recruited both locally and abroad and went to work with a will.

Inevitably, police were the major targets, simply because it is policemen and women, usually in uniform, who have the closest day to day relations with the public. The anti-graft operations were both widespread and intense. There were many arrests. Many, both in the force and the community, felt things were going too far, that practices that had for many years been either accepted or to which authorities turned a blind eye, were now subject to cynical scrutiny and prosecution.

In 1977, police protested what many saw as victimisation. Thousands marched on police headquarters or staged meetings where their anger and distress could be beard. The government, conceding a good thing had perhaps gone too far, issued an amnesty for almost all cases in the past, mostly involving petty corruption.

The anti-graft campaign had left scars, some deep and bitter. Out of the experience, anew feeling emerged. Many young policemen felt open relief that the old days were over. A commission of three senior British police officers examined force manpower and structure, making many recommendations. Key among these suggestions, all of which were adopted, was that policemen should have a realistic living wage. The police system that emerged out of this five-year period of upheaval was better manned, more directly managed and more accountable. It is the Royal Hong Kong Police that can be recognised today.

Throughout those difficult, trying years, police never wavered in their duty. The dreadful landslides of 1972 the normal, annual buffeting by typhoons, crime waves and dealt with by a force that gained yearly in confidence and experience. Despite investigations, widespread publicity about past corruption problems and a temporary slump in morale, police continued to serve with dedication.

It was a police force that continued to gain wide acceptance and trust from the public. This was no accident. Since the late 1960s, there had been a public relations-information unit designed to tell people what police were doing. Junior Police Call, an organisation that became the largest youth group in Hong Kong history, recruited youngsters to help in the fight against crime, with significant success. Recruitment figures remained high; a career in the Hong Kong Police was desirable; those young men and women who marched out onto the parade ground at Police College were better educated, more motivated and vastly better paid than former generations.

The command structure was changing, too. Young men who joined as probationary inspectors in the early 1960s were reaching senior ranks. Many of them, reflecting changing times, were Chinese whose career structure and prospects had been steadily improving since the Sutcliffe era. As these senior local officers took over the highest ranks, it was a result not merely showing realistic appreciation of the need for Hong Kong Chinese to command the Force after 1997, as laid down in agreements between Beijing and London, but also the culmination of farsighted career patterns commenced by police headquarters 30 years earlier.

AllUrban
26-03-2007, 11:37 AM
Err buddy AllUrban...The IGP Tan Sri Musa Hassan must have read your article... (http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2007/3/25/nation/17231551&sec=nation&focus=1) in Malaysiakini (http://www.malaysiakini.com/letters/64958)....very very well written indeed.

Orchi sokong...his calls for better deal for the cops...this is interesting...the letter was published in the NST (http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/nst/Monday/Letters/20070326090014/Article/index_html) as well...but they took out the starting monthly salary....which is too bad...as it is a key feature...of what I was trying to say.....a full-time 7-11 clerk gets a monthly salary of RM700...while a starting police officer gets 690...it's just not right....

Cheers, m

orchipalar
26-03-2007, 12:45 PM
this is interesting...the letter was published in the NST (http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/nst/Monday/Letters/20070326090014/Article/index_html) as well...but they took out the starting monthly salary....which is too bad...as it is a key feature...of what I was trying to say.....a full-time 7-11 clerk gets a monthly salary of RM700...while a starting police officer gets 690...it's just not right....Err buddy AllUrban...many Malaysians ought to be ashamed of themselves when they learn from those well written newsletter articles that...it ONLY takes a keen eyed foreigner with certain amount of bullsense to know what the heck is going wrong with our Malaysian Royal Police Force...

n shame on those Malaysian public...who looks at each Police personnel with a cockeye...to criticize 'blindly' at the Police personnel...with every freaking chance they get...

Whenever a traffic offender gets stopped by the cops for violation of traffic regulations...chances are the guy's eyes n minds would be slanted already...

robertec
26-03-2007, 01:02 PM
And as with a breath of fresh air, the website for the Polis DiRaya Malaysia also changed for the better since yesterday.

Go see for yourself www.rmp.gov.my
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orchipalar
30-03-2007, 09:15 PM
Err buddies...it was reported that a house in USJ18 was broken into on 26/3 around 2:30pm...

Suspects are believed to be 30ish Chinese couple...last seen in a BLACK Proton WAJA bearing registration nos: BFJ 6620...

Anyone who comes across this vehicle...or any suspicious characters is spotted in these neighbourhoods...kindly contact these nearest Balai Polis...

IPD Subang Jaya : 8948 4822

Balai Polis SS17 : 5633 2222

Balai Polis USJ 8 : 5635 6904

Balai Polis Bandar Sunway : 5638 2122

Balai Polis Putra Heights : 5192 2404

umadavid
31-03-2007, 01:09 PM
I received the same alert about the breakin at USJ 18, 3 times yesterday. Is that the norm or is there some problem? One alert should be sufficient, would it not. I just signed up recently for the alerts.

mon
31-03-2007, 02:01 PM
Err buddies...it was reported that a house in USJ18 was broken into on 26/3 around 2:30pm...

Suspects are believed to be 30ish Chinese couple...last seen in a BLACK Proton WAJA bearing registration nos: BFJ 6620...



Thanks for the alert, team.

For those who are living in usj18.

My husband and I drove past the usj18 guards this morning (one seated down and the other holding up the banister), without being stopped or given a second look, despite the recent case of house break-in reported. I'm just wondering, aren't they supposed to take down particulars of cars that enter the gated areas that do not have a valid resident sticker or something?

Ullas Sahadevan
31-03-2007, 02:05 PM
I received the same alert about the breakin at USJ 18, 3 times yesterday. Is that the norm or is there some problem? One alert should be sufficient, would it not. I just signed up recently for the alerts.They usually send a single alert, atleast I received just one. Also people, please don't circulate this message to others because as the chain progresses it might eventually reach the culprits themselves and tip them off...

umadavid
31-03-2007, 03:10 PM
They usually send a single alert, atleast I received just one. Also people, please don't circulate this message to others because as the chain progresses it might eventually reach the culprits themselves and tip them off...


Thanks for your update. wonder why I received 3, though :confused:

robertec
31-03-2007, 05:14 PM
I received the same alert about the breakin at USJ 18, 3 times yesterday. Is that the norm or is there some problem? One alert should be sufficient, would it not. I just signed up recently for the alerts.

I am sorry if somehow you have received the Alert a few times, there have been instances where members receive SJ Alert Messages 8 times and to top it when they were overseas, however not a large number of members have this problem. I can appreciate that it can be really really annoying.

This has something to do with a glitch with the software used by the Telcos.

We send the SMS once, as you can imagine, we are charged for every SMS that we send out, and there is really no reason for us to send the SMS repeatedly.

The only saving grace is that we are not charged for the repeated alerts to our members.

Hopefully, they can solve the problem as we have already complained to the gateway providers many months ago. I suppose their attitude is, so long as you are not charged, it really does not matter.

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umadavid
31-03-2007, 11:43 PM
Thanks for your explanation, Robert. Really appreciate it. As this the first time I am receiving alerts, I was just wondering what the procedure was like. I was not complaining, though. :)

Nowiam
01-04-2007, 08:18 AM
Also people, please don't circulate this message to others because as the chain progresses it might eventually reach the culprits themselves and tip them off...

If we did not want the culprits to potentially read the message then we should not post it on an Internet Forum where ANYONE AT ALL can read it ... and forward it and forward it etc ... you know what I mean?

Is that the real reason why no forwarding is encouraged for the sms alert? I am thinking this reason is not very logical if the webmaster has no objection that the message is posted here?

If not we are assuming these culprits don't go read the internet ... i think that is also not a good assumption ... so if the culprit already read this then sudah tukar kereta atau tukar nombor lah ... you know what I mean?

Ullas Sahadevan
01-04-2007, 10:01 AM
You got a point there mate :) I was wondering too why SJAlert doesn't want us to forward the message and thats the only plausible reason I could think about.

I assume, they want to keep it in a closed reliable network as SJAlert has basic information of people who subscribe to SJAlert as in their house no., mobile phone no. etc. So, probably they don't want the info to go to just about anyone? It's not totally foolproof and I maybe wrong. Maybe Robertec can tell us more on this?

mimosa
01-04-2007, 12:16 PM
From what I know, forwarding is not allowed coz there's been cases of years old messages being forwarded, alarming ppl for no reason.

Encourage ppl you know to directly register with SJAlert to get the latest news.

robertec
02-04-2007, 11:55 AM
How I wish that these burglars and thieves know that we have an alert system like SJ Alert in Subang Jaya/USJ/Putra Heights/Bandar Sunway with a large and active group of members. It would act as a deterrent and they will really have to take their activities elsewhere.

I bring you guys back to the Camry Gang, how shocked those guys were when, well after their robbery they were being chased by the Police and civilians? We made it happen and we had less than 200 members at that time.

What do you think are the chances of a criminal getting away when an alert is sent out to 10,000 members?
Even if they got away, do you think they will ever dare return to repeat their criminal activities?

Coming back to why we discourage our messages from being circulated. As mentioned by Mimosa, some outdated messages can be circulated by mischievous people and this may result in quite some unpleasantness.

One good example is the message about a girl being kidnapped in Subang Parade, circulated sometime late last year. The incident actually happened in Ipoh the night before.
It non the less emotionally aroused many people and we were asked to broadcast the message through SJ Alert by no less than a few “prominent people”. But after being unable to get verification from the Police, the SJ Alert Committee refused to make the broadcast.

Our messages are being monitored by the Police including members of the Special Branch. And if you are still not aware, our crime messages are all verified by the participating Balai Polis. We will not send out unverified information.

You will also note that our messages have a sender ID : SJ Alert
This sender ID cannot be replicated by a normal member of public circulating our messages using their Mobile Phone. That is why we warn our members not to circulate message that originate from SJ Alert. As they are ultimately responsible for problems if they ignore our warnings.

Yes, encourage people to register directly; it is after all “Free of Charge”


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orchipalar
02-04-2007, 12:37 PM
One good example is the message about a girl being kidnapped in Subang Parade, circulated sometime late last year. The incident actually happened in Ipoh the night before.
It non the less emotionally aroused many people and we were asked to broadcast the message through SJ Alert by no less than a few “prominent people”. But after being unable to get verification from the Police, the SJ Alert Committee refused to make the broadcast.Err buddies...that chain of sms...was spreading rapidly like wildfire to the far North...East n South of Peninsular Malaysia...n to wherever there is...a shopping complex with the name "Parade" on it...

Even the normally 'peaceful' police stations n beats in some of those areas...were scrambling to react to the 'desperate' calls for help from that chain of 'Girl kidnapped from Parade' sms...

Elsewhere...most of the phone lines leading to the Subang/USJ Police stations n other affected communities...were jammed packed with calls from concerned residents n the so called 'witnesses' of the incident...sending all available Police personnel scrambling to the respective "Parade" shopping complexes...

Ahem...along the way...lemon twist...salt...sugar n spices were added to it...n by the time the chain of sms broke n died...as many as 3 millions sms were sent out based on Orchi's conservative estimates...

Ullas Sahadevan
02-04-2007, 09:01 PM
Thanks Robertec for the details, that was informative. Much appreciated :)

orchipalar
02-04-2007, 09:54 PM
Err buddy...have you registered as member yet?

We need more eyes n ears...especially in USJ 2 also...

sarawakian
25-05-2007, 03:24 PM
Er...can some one enlighten me as to why this was held over? I was curious as I have not received any for so long and then when I checked the website, this showed:

http://www.sjalert.com.my/crime_report.htm :(

pcyeoh
25-05-2007, 05:43 PM
The new OCPD request us to suspend this broadcast until further notice citing the recent dispute between the Dep. Int. Security Minister Dato Johari and the Police on the crime index of KL when it was reported in the papers that crime rate in KL has increased by 42% but the police disputed this. We will approach the new OCPD soon to sort this out. It is also about time we organise another dialogue with the police under this new OCPD leadership to get the ball rolling again.

sarawakian
28-05-2007, 10:28 AM
Ya, I think another dialogue should be done...maybe by utilising 3K if not MPSJ. Maybe even in a mall.

The crime seems scary nowadays especially when the recent Malay Mail case of the poor victim of road bullies. There are some horrible motorcyclists in Subang Jaya now...and also kidnaps happned very frequently the last being a kidnap in Subang Jaya and released in Shah Alam as covered in the papers.

I think the politics of Johari should not be brought to a community initiative..

Also, there should be a proposal to ensure all pricate security firms ARE REGISTERED WITH athe resident's assciation or an overall kawasan as there seems to be many private secure "gated communities done" and they are some looking like problmes waiting to occur. :rolleyes:

MOYSC
18-06-2007, 05:59 PM
The new OCPD request us to suspend this broadcast until further notice citing the recent dispute between the Dep. Int. Security Minister Dato Johari and the Police on the crime index of KL when it was reported in the papers that crime rate in KL has increased by 42% but the police disputed this. We will approach the new OCPD soon to sort this out. It is also about time we organise another dialogue with the police under this new OCPD leadership to get the ball rolling again.

Its almost 2 mths now and the crime reports are still not broadcasted by SJAlert. Is there any way that it can be reactivated again?

I found it really useful. At least it alerts us about the crimes happening in our neighbourhood.

Just a week ago, a restaurant at USJ3A had been burglared by a group of Indians with parangs in the early hours around 6am. Its really scarry coz' the shop was so close to residential homes!

Looks like crimes are still NOT under control. Despite residents initiatives to help curb crimes (ie. employing guards, putting up security barriers, etc.), they aren't sufficient to prevent crimes from happening.

Imagine without these initiatives and having to wait for the police to respond??? Gosh, many lives can be at stake especially when there are inadequate police personnels & patrol vehicles!!! :eek:

eileenc
18-06-2007, 07:07 PM
SJ Alert weekly crime updates have been temporarily held-over due to some concerns which we are not at liberty to elaborate.

FYI, the SJ Alert Committee met the Subang Jaya OCPD (and in the presence of Dato Lee - ADUN Subang Jaya) two weeks ago regarding the temporary suspension of the weekly updates. Rest assured that we are still actively following up to resolve the matter.

twohands
12-07-2007, 11:59 AM
any news yet on the continuation of the crime reports?

robertec
13-07-2007, 11:55 AM
any news yet on the continuation of the crime reports?

We are writing to the IGP himself to get the clearance for the crime reports, please be patient as quite a number of things are happening in the mentime if you have been reading the newspapers, so I suppose we are not a priority.

What is satisfying is that there are residents who continue to register for SJ Alert through our website and other means.

We plan to go directly into the various Precincts to get more members with our banners and leaflets, once our fundings come through.

In the meantime, the Crime index from Subang Jaya and USJ indicate an increase of CAR THEFTS. Please therefore take special care of your cars in the evenings. Make sure they are locked inside your house compound and the gates are chain locked.

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twohands
14-07-2007, 01:33 PM
thanks loads robertec for the update

sarawakian
15-08-2007, 04:45 PM
er...pardon me but what happened to SJ alert? The last time I asked they said the police and the minister is at odds..er..so how?

robertec
16-08-2007, 11:09 AM
er...pardon me but what happened to SJ alert? The last time I asked they said the police and the minister is at odds..er..so how?

Basically the situation still remains the same. I suppose we just have to wait it out, until times are more favourable.

Now you will all understand why I kept repeating that the Crime Reports given to us was a privilege given to no other Community.

From the days when it started with only the USJ8 Polis Balai to having 4 Polis Balais (Subang, Bandar Sunway, USJ8 and Putra Heights) offering us their weekly crime reports after the launch of SJ Alert. Of this I am sure, the information flow will start again.

So just hang in there. In the meantime we will use SJ Alert to send Community messages.
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sarawakian
28-08-2007, 03:57 PM
Robertec,

Sorry for bothering but I am wondering if some clarity can be given as what the SJ Alert is? I am not sure. Is it like an sms messenger type thingy where we announce things (other than police report). Is there any other plans to do in case the police alert is cold storaged?

Hope you could enlighten us. :confused:

orchipalar
28-08-2007, 05:27 PM
Sorry for bothering but I am wondering if some clarity can be given as what the SJ Alert is? I am not sure. Is it like an sms messenger type thingy where we announce things (other than police report). Is there any other plans to do in case the police alert is cold storaged?

Hope you could enlighten us. :confused:Err buddy...
here is the link to SJAlert website... (http://www.sjalert.com.my/)where it would explain its purpose.

Besides the broadcast of crime statistics...it is also used mainly for disseminating community news.

orchipalar
05-09-2007, 10:23 PM
Err buddies...in a latest unfortunate incident which was reportedly happened early this morning...at USJ 12.

A fellow resident neighbour...the former long serving IGP Tun Hanif Omar's home was burglarized... (http://www.sun2surf.com/article.cfm?id=19242)

Orchi came to know also today that recently...a fellow residence neighbour's home in USJ 9...was burglarized too.

Please stay on high alert....n report any sightings of suspicious characters in your neighbourhood to the nearest Balai Polis...

Balai USJ 8 : 03 5635 6904

Balai SS17 : 03 5633 2222

Balai Putra Heights : 03 5192 2404

Bandar Sunway : 03 5638 2122

orchipalar
07-09-2007, 01:58 PM
Err buddies...after a brief discussion with the OCS Chief Inspector Foo of Balai USJ 8 this morning...he wishes to advise all SubangJaya/USJ/Putra Heights/Sunway residents to be extra careful when handling big amount of CASH...in n out of their homes...offices n banks...at all times...n it is advisable to have additional companion(s) along.

Secondly...beware of suspicious characters around...or whenever one enters n leaves...the home or car.

Cases involving burglary...n break-ins...do occur from time to time...but thefts of cars n bikes...are still high.

Whenever members or residents...wishes to leave your homes unoccupied for certain period of time...please inform your immediate neighbours...n drop by at the nearest Balai to inform them of your absence from your homes.

He also stresses that while police patrols in the neighbourhood have since been stepped up...residents should assist by reporting criminal incidents to the nearby Police station immediately...upon any suspected crimes in progress...or sightings of suspicious characters in the neighbourhood...in order that further swift n appropriate actions can be taken by the nearby Police station(s).

Efforts are still underway...to re-obtain approvals from the relevant top officials...in order to re-continue sending out crime statistics in the affected neighbourhood...asap.

On behalf of SJ Alert...Orchi wishes to thank all members of SJ Alert n residents...for their patience...close cooperation n support to the Police...

orchipalar
13-09-2007, 10:26 PM
Err buddies...the OCS of Balai USJ 8...Chief Inspector Foo has confirmed that...certain members of the notorious robbery gangs whose modus operandi would include tailing n robbing their victims after making withdrawals of big sums of CASH from the neighbourhood banks...have been shot n arrested recently... (http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Wednesday/National/20070912080404/Article/index_html)by Task Force members of the PDRM from PJ.

He wishes to also inform n offer his advise to residents that...while you are driving...if you feel you are being followed by strangers in unfamiliar car or motorbike...please stay calm n head straight to the nearest Balai Polis in the vicinity...to seek Police assistance.

Please be alerted...

sarawakian
21-09-2007, 05:38 PM
I hope all Subang Jayans keep on their toes the next few weeks as crime seem to escalate.

Please:

a. When at ATMs...go with friends and get to car asap and go home
b. Switch on lights when home and get neighbour to tolong tolong watch.
c. Shop with credit card vs cash if possible.
d. Walk around compund frequently and talk to neighbours more esp in evenings and night time.
e. Watch for purring sounds of bikes or slow moving cars within neighbourhood...I think we can report to police if this is suspicious

By the way, has the police launced their house empty for those on holidays yet? I think it would be good for the police to have a meet the public or community sessions in the shopping centres :)

robertec
21-09-2007, 05:51 PM
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By the way, has the police launced their house empty for those on holidays yet? I think it would be good for the police to have a meet the public or community sessions in the shopping centres :)


BALIK KAMPUNG - RUMAH SELAMAT????

It's on the way... just make sure you are there when we do the launch. By the way you need to introduce yourself to me at the launch.

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sarawakian
22-09-2007, 10:22 AM
I think this is very saddening that such crimes have now crept into our society. Other than rapes (date rapes as well), domestic violence and pick pocketing, this is very sad.

I think our community should also take greater effort in ensuring we have a safe place to still play in the playgrounds instead of being paranoid in getting so much security and will lead to issues if say escape is imminent for the protected and they themselves are trapped.

Perhaps, we need to come up with a strategy for safety...an active community..though not all will jump and say yaeh...I'll do it...at least there is this little fire created and we can prayy and work towards making this more successful.

This could later on create better understanding and maybe just maybe garner the empathy for each other instead of being couch critics and stand and watch without doing anything and blame others.

GOD helps those who help themselves. :)

zulgquest
23-09-2007, 04:29 PM
Pastikan semuanya berkunci....buat semua langkah2 keselamatan....selebihnya berserah kapada ALLAH..

orchipalar
30-09-2007, 11:38 PM
Err buddies...this just came in...please keep your eyes open...!

Balai USJ 8's OCS Chief Inspector Foo...has just reported that there was an attempted robbery which occurred this afternoon at USJ 5.

The Police are alerting residents to be extra cautious when you are getting in & out of your vehicles around your homes or workplace...

The Police are now on the lookout for 2 Malay men suspected of being responsible for the latest incident...

One of them is BIG built...who is reported to have a visible "flame" liked tattoo...on his upper right arm.

The other suspect is smaller built...who was believed to be armed with parang.

They were last seen leaving the scene of crime at USJ 5...in a BROWN PROTON PERDANA...bearing the registration nos. WHH 5500...which the Police believe could be a false registration plate.

The Police have advised residents to be extra cautious...of any suspicious characters around the neighbourhood...

PLEASE contact the nearest Police station...or call Balai USJ 8 at 03 5635 6904...if any suspicious persons are spotted in your neighbourhood...

chewie
02-10-2007, 02:58 PM
Please do to here http://www.mmail.com.my/Current_News/mm/Tuesday/Hotnews/20071002124311/Article/index_html

the abductors looks so similiar mentioned above..

patrick
13-10-2007, 09:52 PM
I think this is very saddening that such crimes have now crept into our society. Other than rapes (date rapes as well), domestic violence and pick pocketing, this is very sad.

I think our community should also take greater effort in ensuring we have a safe place to still play in the playgrounds instead of being paranoid in getting so much security and will lead to issues if say escape is imminent for the protected and they themselves are trapped.

Perhaps, we need to come up with a strategy for safety...an active community..though not all will jump and say yaeh...I'll do it...at least there is this little fire created and we can prayy and work towards making this more successful.

This could later on create better understanding and maybe just maybe garner the empathy for each other instead of being couch critics and stand and watch without doing anything and blame others.

GOD helps those who help themselves. :)

Perhaps if there are sufficient number of residents who are really keen like you to take a more "active" role in combating crime, we could then arrange to meet up with the Police to see how and what we can do.
Maybe it's time to forget all the rhetorics of being alert, know your neighbours etc etc. The time may have come when we have to do more than that!

pcyeoh
13-10-2007, 10:41 PM
Perhaps if there are sufficient number of residents who are really keen like you to take a more "active" role in combating crime, we could then arrange to meet up with the Police to see how and what we can do.
Maybe it's time to forget all the rhetorics of being alert, know your neighbours etc etc. The time may have come when we have to do more than that!
In the early hours of Friday at around 2.30, a group of 4-5 Mat Rempits were playing basketball at our USJ 12 court. They came in their bikes. Somehow no one exactly knew what actually happened that made them select a car and and started to smash the glass windows and did some heavy dancing on the car roof. Someone called the Sentral Security and they arrived just in time to see them racing away. I was fast asleep then When Munis the manager of Sentral Security told me that it was my neighbour down the road who called him upon hearing the commotion which in my assessment was quite a distance away, I wonder why none of those including the victim who were residing in front of the basketball court failed to call the police. It was a case of none of them have the USJ 8 police station number and it didn't dawn upon them to call 999. So folks, don't just keep the police contact number only after a crime or an unlawful incident happened. Have them in your handphone. Also in this particular case, none of the residents dared to confront them though we could easily outnumbered them. But then everyone was afraid that they will come back in full force to seek revenge. In this case, Patrick, what do you suggest that we can do? By the way, damage to the car was assessed at RM 4,000.

patrick
15-10-2007, 05:33 PM
In the early hours of Friday at around 2.30, a group of 4-5 Mat Rempits were playing basketball at our USJ 12 court. .......... Have them in your handphone. Also in this particular case, none of the residents dared to confront them though we could easily outnumbered them. But then everyone was afraid that they will come back in full force to seek revenge. In this case, Patrick, what do you suggest that we can do? By the way, damage to the car was assessed at RM 4,000.

I dont know! I dont have a sollution. That's why I wrote that perhaps we should meet up with the police and see what the community can do in terms of more proactive action. It seems like everytime the cops or security come along, the bad guys seem to have left!

SJECHO
16-10-2007, 01:35 AM
What does the community want to do? What can we do?
Obviously proactive measures need to be taken to balance the scale of responsibility between the police and community, but to what extend are we willing to be proactive?


I dont know! I dont have a sollution. That's why I wrote that perhaps we should meet up with the police and see what the community can do in terms of more proactive action. It seems like everytime the cops or security come along, the bad guys seem to have left!

palmdoc
16-10-2007, 07:07 AM
The police now are leaving a "we have visited" chits in the mailbox. Anyone got these?

pcyeoh
16-10-2007, 10:33 AM
The police now are leaving a "we have visited" chits in the mailbox. Anyone got these?
I helped my neighbour to register when she told me that she would be back in Johor Baru for 5 days during raya. I registered via the SJ Alert website just before it closed its 'counter' at 12 noon last Friday. For the next few days, I didn't see any of the police dropping by and I called Robert Cop and he not only could tell me that he has passed all those registration via the Internet to the police but also could tell me what I wrote in the comments column!

Then around 1.00 am ss if by coincidence or planned, a patrol car cruised by and stopped at my neighbour's house to drop in a chit. Since I was watching TV, I ran out of my house to meet them. I then spoke to one of them who told me that he has a list containing nearly 30 addresses all around my area which he must visit before morning broke.

And when I asked them how come I didn't get to see them coming to my neighbour's house, he replied, "Memang kami dah mai sini tiap tiap hari. Kalau nak tahu pukul berapa, cuba ambil chit chit yang kami masukan ke dalam peti pos." I then made one request from them. "Boleh saya ambil gambar tentang lawatan ini?" He replied "Bolih tapi nak buat apa dengan gambar?" I then said "Nak buat cerita dalam SJ Echo dan usj.com.my." "Saya tak tahu tentang usj.com.my tapi SJ Echo......Ohhh....saya dah baca paper ini di balai. OK lah tapi kena cepat. Kami kena pi lagi banyak tempat."

So folk here is a snapshop of our cops in action while we are asleep. When my neighbours comes back tomorrow, I shall ask her for the slips and publish them here ....... of course without her full address and phone lah so as not to attract the 'hor sin.'

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v732/pcyeoh/Housecall-1.jpg

AllUrban
17-10-2007, 11:23 AM
Subang Jaya police district needs people for its reserve unit (http://thestar.com.my/metro/story.asp?file=/2007/10/17/central/19164519&sec=central)

Important points:
The recruitment is open to all residents staying in Subang Jaya within the radius of 50km.

applicants with shift jobs discouraged from applying as their job might not allow them to attend to emergencies during the night.

Males or females are welcomed to apply

Minimum qualification needed is SPM

applicant should ideally be 5.5ft in height and reasonably well built

a long-term recruitment so they need people who can be fully committed

Interested applicants should apply before Oct 25 for the interview and screening process.

To make an appointment, call Narasingarao at 019-3357896 or Sergeant Major Lim Hock Hin at 012-2007234.

Cheers, m

sarawakian
14-11-2007, 05:37 PM
Any updates on whether the old sms alerts on crime and crime index would be avaialble to public?

robertec
20-11-2007, 01:26 PM
Any updates on whether the old sms alerts on crime and crime index would be avaialble to public?

No news as yet.

But one bit of good information is that the newly promoted Deputy Inspector General of Police is non other than Dato' Haji Ismail bin Omar who was the former CPO of Selangor.

He launched the Balik Kampung - Rumah Selamat Campaign jointly organised by SJ Alert and the Polis on 11th February 2007. This was what he said of SJ Alert during the launch "This is the best SMS service in the whole of Malaysia if not the world, it is a free service so more residents should join SJ Alert."

We will try to get his reaction once he has settled down.

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USJ27Resident
28-12-2007, 02:09 AM
Out of curiosity... :confused:

How come our "YBs" can use the USJ Crime ALERT to send sms greetings to the residents that is on the database...

Hmmm...

kwchang
28-12-2007, 02:26 AM
I'm not in the SJAlert committee but I am sure both the politicians paid for the messages - the monies earned are meant to maintain the service.

Did you forget that when SJAlert was launched, members were already informed to expect some advertisements which would be the funding source to keep this service free to the members?

USJ27Resident
28-12-2007, 02:36 AM
I'm not in the SJAlert committee but I am sure both the politicians paid for the messages - the monies earned are meant to maintain the service.

Well, if they did pay, then "thank you" to them for contributing...

patrick
28-12-2007, 10:28 AM
Well, if they did pay, then "thank you" to them for contributing...

Yes, Chang is correct. They pay for those greeting sms. And if you wish to send good wishes to residents and pay for it, SJ Alert can also do that for you. No problem!

bobkee
28-12-2007, 12:09 PM
PM me a quote Patrick :)

robertec
28-12-2007, 04:09 PM
PM me a quote Patrick :)

There is no need for a PM, as there is no secret.

You get charged 10sen x total number of members (it use to be 11.5sen), whether it is for Commercial purposes or otherwise. Presently we have about 3,266 members so the current total charge is RM326.60 per pop.

Political, Religious or Racial messages are NO NOs. Please also remember that your message will be screened by 10 Committee Members (responsible community leaders) and at least 4 approvals must be obtained before messages are sent. If for any reason, there is even one objection the said SMS will be “on hold”.

Yes we do make a small profit which goes back into buying Credits for the next round of SMSes.

It would please you to note that the 2 YBs have made large cash contributions to upkeep SJ Alert SMS and the SJ Alert Website since September 2006, through the USJRA. And just in case you start jumping to conclusions, their contribution does not in anyway make us beholden to them.

There are also other cash contributors including (the former) JKP Zone 3, and some small organisation. The rest are contributions from so called “customers” who advertise, but they are not that many.

So if you wish to advertise some product or offer, just contact us, you will be in a way helping us to sustain SJ Alert.


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bobkee
28-12-2007, 06:33 PM
Thanks!

I am thinking of perhaps using it to announce some community events that I am involved with - strictly non-partisan - more of youth orientated and perhaps Oxfam related.

Don't worry about presumptions. Both are duly elected local representatives. This is just part of their community service as is expected of them. To be candid, apart from the obvious systemic problems, both are among the better BN representatives around. :)

Will table the quote to the planning committee.

Thanks again.