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sirgalahad2010
24-06-2006, 03:19 PM
Here's an opinion from the Singapore Minister Mentor to brighten up your weekend. :D

From the Spore Straits Times (http://straitstimes.asia1.com.sg) today:
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Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew gave a wide-ranging interview to Taiwan's Commonwealth magazine recently. ....

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It's interesting that LKY said "Malaysian" instead of "Malay". For someone who is noted for being very careful about what he says in public, one wonders if this is a Freudian slip indicating his inner thoughts?

And the mantra is one which he has kept on repeating - a clean system, advancement on merit and a system that allows everybody to have a chance in life. It sounds so simple, doesn't it?

saml
25-06-2006, 11:25 AM
For a country that has nothing to start with, they are a success by any standards. Of course there will be detractors but if they had not done what they did singapore would not be what it is today. Look at the foreign reserves they have. Where does it come from? Savings man, savings. Just look at the awarding of their casino licence. Even companies linked to their state owned companies do not receive special consideration. Do you hear of any corrupt or unfair considerations? Every thing is done by the book and above board. Anywhere else there would be cries of cronyism and so on.

tupai
25-06-2006, 03:11 PM
tats why kita...apa tu?....tak boleh nak buat melawat sambil belajar kesingapura.
Kan kita...apa ni?, harimau* dan dia orang hanya, apa tu?.. pandai pura pura singa, kita...apa tu?... tak dapat boleh belajar kronism, kontrak alibaba, standard yg rendah, niaga AP, surat layang, meritocrazy dll yg boleh...apa tu?... memperkayakan kita kan???
mana boleh kita belajar sambil melawat kat jiran selatan, kita kan jatuh..apa tu??...muka air aje kan?

Yang Akan Belajar lagi dimanamana lato tupai :p

*Nota*
hari-hari mahu :p mahu apa? lu tahu, gua tahu cukup kan :D

sirgalahad2010
25-06-2006, 03:53 PM
Read what TDM said about Singapore in his latest diatribe.

Actually, "calculative" is a very kind adjective to use, given TDM's vocabulary and command of the English language! :D

Raikonen
22-11-2006, 04:57 PM
Jordan takes S'pore as one of model nations when setting national agenda

http://www.malaysiakini.com/link/eNodykEKwCAMBMAfuSjFQ38TJFRBEzGh+X6hc57uvm8gIlLrJM JTOIxsUGq6YK5nsMGGPLT18NRGf8E7OFCuUmtGRuq+5gd8iBxE

"In Singapore's case, the key factors for its development lie in meritocracy and good governance."

Something Bolehland can learn instead of emphasis on form over substance

Jane Bong
23-11-2006, 07:42 AM
Singapore loses one to Malaysia. They are not sending a man into space. One up for Malaysia. Hooray and Well Done, Malaysia! The rural areas can be without sanitation and electricity. But we must have teh tarik in space.

xaviers
23-11-2006, 08:25 AM
yeah...so much for poverty eradication.. sure some space made teh tarik will feed them for ages.

idolfan
23-11-2006, 10:12 AM
Any chance of Malaysia ( with its OIC connections) working together with Singapore ( with its proven efficiency in delivery and techological advances )
when targetting the Middle East market ?

firefox
23-11-2006, 01:25 PM
n btw Singapore to impose gst from 5% to 7 % , pity singapore has no strong opposition party to question the government, and ppl have be trained not to question the government. lately a poor man jumped on to the mrt lane and commited sucide as he said he coudnt afford to support his family. singapre is so rich a nation do they need to subject its ppl to more taxes? anyway its not my biusness though just stating the facts. yse u can have a wise PM but how about the sufferings of the common poor ppl.

Sentinel
23-11-2006, 01:53 PM
n btw Singapore to impose gst from 5% to 7 % , pity singapore has no strong opposition party to question the government, and ppl have be trained not to question the government. lately a poor man jumped on to the mrt lane and commited sucide as he said he coudnt afford to support his family. singapre is so rich a nation do they need to subject its ppl to more taxes? anyway its not my biusness though just stating the facts. yse u can have a wise PM but how about the ppls sufferings?

The increase of GST from 5% to 7% is going to hit the heartlanders quite hard.

Last week, a cab driver told me that the Singapore gomen would raise that to 10% by 2008 and that Lee Hsien Yang, who recently relinquished his position as CEO of SingTel will head the new casino company The Sands.... hmmm coming from a cab driver....

Right here at home, we are going to have the GST soon too, right? Everything will go up in price in a few months time... "fuel price will NOT be increased again in 2006" but in another 6 weeks, this promise will not hold water anymore....

I see 2007 as a difficult time for those lower fixed-income group.... the purchasing power will be greatly affected!

gtl
23-11-2006, 02:10 PM
heard that while i was in sin, Bg Lee says that they will help the "real" poor in sin but i am not sure in what way. due to that they need to increase the GST to 7%. i do agree that the heartlander will hit hard (sama like those in malaysia) while the rich will continue the good life.
at least in sin, the economy and FDI is still strong while job opportunities are plenty compare to our kampung. the govt in sin are actively working on getting growth for the nation. while our gomena re actively sucking our coffers dry.

A SING DOLLAR gets you further than A MSIA RINGGIT............

Raikonen
23-11-2006, 02:18 PM
heard that while i was in sin, Bg Lee says that they will help the "real" poor in sin but i am not sure in what way. due to that they need to increase the GST to 7%. i do agree that the heartlander will hit hard (sama like those in malaysia) while the rich will continue the good life.
at least in sin, the economy and FDI is still strong while job opportunities are plenty compare to our kampung. the govt in sin are actively working on getting growth for the nation. while our gomena re actively sucking our coffers dry.

A SING DOLLAR gets you further than A MSIA RINGGIT............

Usually implementing GST means that the tax burden being transferred from the corporations to the private individuals whereby the govt can have the flexibility to lower the corporate tax. Income tax too but i dun foresee that being achieved when Msia starts its GST.

You are right about our/Sin Govt. Only today another notable corporate development coming so soon after the PWTC circus. Three GLCs merged.

http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BT/Thursday/Frontpage/BT596797.txt/Article/index_html

firefox
23-11-2006, 02:51 PM
Ya i too heard from a taxi driver inspite of crimes in JB there is going to be a boom with more singaporeans coming in droves to do their shopping and for entertainment ..many have purchased weekends homes in JB...chap pie leow for the buisness men in JB..aiyoh! i have no money to invest there lah.

gtl
23-11-2006, 04:08 PM
Only today another notable corporate development coming so soon after the PWTC circus. Three GLCs merged.

http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BT/Thursday/Frontpage/BT596797.txt/Article/index_html

can anybody advise me, why merge? benefit to who? can a big giant congomerate compete better?

btw, sin govt may lower income tax in the near future once they increase the GST to 7%.

sirgalahad2010
23-11-2006, 04:20 PM
Any chance of Malaysia ( with its OIC connections) working together with Singapore ( with its proven efficiency in delivery and techological advances )
when targetting the Middle East market ?

Syed Mokh (of MMC and DRB-Hicom) got a US$30 billion project in the Middle East without relying on Spore............. :D

Sentinel
23-11-2006, 04:30 PM
Ya i too heard from a taxi driver inspite of crimes in JB there is going to be a boom with more singaporeans coming in droves to do their shopping and for entertainment ..many have purchased weekends homes in JB...chap pie leow for the buisness men in JB..aiyoh! i have no money to invest there lah.

You're one decade too late firefox. Singaporeans started driving up property prices since the early 90s with investments in outskirts of JB all the way to the north at Senai, westward towards Pontian and Gelang Patah (where the 2nd Link) and eastwards to Perling and Pasir Gudang.

Who do you think are swinging those clubs at the the fairways in so many golf glubs every weekend from JB all the way to Malacca Village Resort? Some even drive as crazy far as Staffield just to hit 18 holes (maybe 19?)

And oh.... southwards into Batam, Bintan and Tanjong Pinang too....... :mad: (all Indonesian islands!)

AllUrban
23-11-2006, 04:30 PM
Usually implementing GST means that the tax burden being transferred from the corporations to the private individuals whereby the govt can have the flexibility to lower the corporate tax. Income tax too but i dun foresee that being achieved when Msia starts its GST.Yes, and lowering the corporate tax rate is often a good tactic to encourage FDI into a country, as well as encouraging R & D.

Lower taxes and greater R & D usually means innovation and profits, which can lead to more jobs and higher incomes...

And the best part of GST is that it is fair to all...everyone has to pay it...so the government maintains its revenues.

At the same time the government can issue GST rebates and lower the income taxes of those with lower incomes. This hopefully gives them more money to keep in their pockets.

Cheers, m

Sentinel
23-11-2006, 04:37 PM
Yes, and lowering the corporate tax rate is often a good tactic to encourage FDI into a country, as well as encouraging R & D.

Lower taxes and greater R & D usually means innovation and profits, which can lead to more jobs and higher incomes...

And the best part of GST is that it is fair to all...everyone has to pay it...so the government maintains its revenues.

At the same time the government can issue GST rebates and lower the income taxes of those with lower incomes. This hopefully gives them more money to keep in their pockets.

Cheers, m

But Mr. Prime Minister only interested in agriculture...

SIL putting together one of the largest agriculture conglomerate to merge in history ... Sime Darby, Golden Hope and Guthrie....

And probably make millions (if not billions) somewhere while the rest of the country can be destroyed and rot, for all he cares....

How can this country ever move out of this rut if all the Prime Minister does is just shake hands and snooze thru meetings and let his SIL and friends screw the corporate scene blue-black with all these scams?

I just pray that either ex-PM TDM come out shooting again or the next General Elections gets called early.... both also can! :mad:

Raikonen
23-11-2006, 04:39 PM
can anybody advise me, why merge? benefit to who? can a big giant congomerate compete better?


You will get your answer in KJ speech made at the PWTC circus

gtl
23-11-2006, 05:56 PM
You will get your answer in KJ speech made at the PWTC circus

EUREKA!!!!

idolfan
24-11-2006, 10:04 AM
If we put aside historical baggage, there is money to made for both parties. . But unfortunately Malaysians would view S'poreans as being too calculative and money-minded and would rather go alone. S'pore will however find elsewhere whatever resources they lack, if they can't find it in Malaysia.

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporebusinessnews/view/243130/1/.html

MM Lee said: "We'll have to find the resources. So, we are short-handed. We don't have Arabic speakers. Some of our officers and our businessmen are learning some Arabic. They want to do something here, we know how to do it, but we have also got projects elsewhere. So we have to supplement our people with foreigners, but make them part of our team. That's the only way.

"The opportunities are there for the next five, seven years. If we don't take these opportunities now, the windows will close. Others would have seized it, and we would have missed the opportunity. But whatever we do, every project must be a success or we lose our brand name."

Mr Lee says Kuwait has invited Singapore to be part of a multi-billion dollar project to build a new city.

Singapore's Changi Airports International is also in the final stages of inking an agreement to help Abu Dhabi run its airport.

But to be successful, MM Lee says Singapore will need to engage in a long-term relationship with partners in the Middle East"

gtl
24-11-2006, 10:27 AM
what i understand from sin govt, their game plan is value innovation which they can control and manage. building n managing industrial parks, buildings or roads are easily copied and others can do it at lower cost. with value innovation, to copy is not so easy and their innovation will be sold at higher premium than others. to run their airports is value innovation which they do very well.

KLIA is really ****ty, 2 weeks ago there was a shortage of taxi, it is so pathetic.

Sentinel
24-11-2006, 10:29 AM
If we put aside historical baggage, there is money to made for both parties. . But unfortunately Malaysians would view S'poreans as being too calculative and money-minded and would rather go alone. S'pore will however find elsewhere whatever resources they lack, if they can't find it in Malaysia.The 'people' of Malaysia has always been okay as far as working in and with Singapore is concerned, its just a 'certain race' has a negative attitude towards development and progress for our neighbor because they have been 'brainwashed' by their equally myopic and narrow-minded so-called political leaders. It is us losing out wholesale, not Singapore, like MM Lee said, "we can always get it elsewhere if we cannot get it in Malaysia."

Countries across the globe, lately India and China, are trying to cooperate and create economic speheres and here, we are only a mile apart and we throw stones at each other.... this was partly a historical baggage during the Tunku - LKY days plus later on Tun M badgering them for CPF money, KTM land and of course the price of water.... besides making remarks like "Singapore is so small, if you drive a Ferrari, you will fall off the edge before you even engage your fourth gear"....

I am sure future generations of leaders on both sides of the causeway, with no historical baggage, will one day put all these differences aside and realise that we were once the Siamese twins and inseparable....

idolfan
24-11-2006, 10:33 AM
It is us losing out wholesale, not Singapore, like MM Lee said, "we can always get it elsewhere if we cannot get it in Malaysia."

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errr.. Sentinel ;)

Sorry if my post was misleading but those were my thots, not LKY's words.

Wong Sang
24-11-2006, 10:34 AM
The gap between Singapore and Malaysia will become greater. It all starts with self-belief. Just compare Lee Kuan Yew with Abdullah Badawi.

Sentinel
24-11-2006, 10:43 AM
The gap between Singapore and Malaysia will become greater. It all starts with self-belief. Just compare Lee Kuan Yew with Abdullah Badawi.

Its not only just self-belief, it is also sincerity and determination and resourcefulness. I don't mind saying that the ex-PM Mahathir had this, but he has too many dirty cronies hanging around him....

Anyway, in 5 years, we will see the UMNOputras cry over spilled milk....

Wong Sang
24-11-2006, 10:49 AM
I think Malaysia will do okay. Abdullah is trying to send us back to the pre-industrial revolution time of the 1780s. He may very well succeed.

xaviers
24-11-2006, 11:06 AM
understand that when our ex-PM TDM was in charge -- Singapore was more afraid of us as we are a threat as we create competition...

but now they seem no longer afraid..no longer economic threat to them (i bet you they are sniggering)

But we going to be Ok wat....as we are going back to kampung to tanam jagung

- no bridge - SG port services safe
- no IT edge (cyberjaya lost it glitter, our broadband service shadowed, SG is going wireless broadband island wide, chips heist - who want to set high tech industry here, phishing from govt servers)
- no manufacturing edge - no longer low cost - value add what?
- airports bearly not enough traffic to generate big revenues
- soon our F1 hosting will be gone and hosted in SG (and our fellas will say tak apa....no longer feasible, biar mereka buat la)
- soon Genting will no longer be attactive..
- no more turtles - semua telur sudah makan


what else do we have

bobble
24-11-2006, 11:15 AM
Singapore deserves to be where they are. Their people work hard to get into the best classes, best universities, get the best grades, best companies, best jobs and best careers. Semuanya mau best. Here it is semuanya OK. One don't get to the top by being mediocre, or trying to get back to humble roots by planting padi.

Raikonen
24-11-2006, 11:35 AM
It is true the kiasu attitude of Spore has in a way made it what she is today.

Even our Royal Prof Ungku Aziz acknowledges that.

'Kiasu' Is Key To Success Of The Malays - Ungku Aziz
http://www.bernama.com/bernama/v3/news_lite.php?id=231652

I think in a way the local Chinese are kiasu too. Want their children to be the best and dun like to lose. Unfortunately come GE, most of them also become kiasi and vote in fear of govt propanganda. We must realise that in the globalised world, the govt must be mindful of trying to engineer any unrest like in the 60s. The consequence of that happening again will be disastrous for all.

sirgalahad2010
24-11-2006, 06:35 PM
This is vintage LKY! At a press conference with the Arab media in Kuwait, during his current visit to the Middle East, he said:

"What I would do is, yes, observe the habits, the rituals of Islam but please remember, if you just read the Quran and the Hadith and you memorise them and you can make great speeches, quoting chunks of it, you only need a few people to do that.

"If you get large numbers of people doing that, who's going to be your biomedical scientists, your doctors, engineers, accountants, whatever?"

(from the Spore Straits Times, Nov 24).

Beautifully put!

In the interview, he emphasised

> the importance of a good education for a society to flourish, with a special focus on the education of women. This is because educated mothers "will have different views of how the children should be brought up".

> the teaching of English which together with the Internet "will give you access to information on any subject that you want under the sun".

He also spoke of the need for a change in mindset. Thus, instead of wearing the jalabiya (the white robes commonly worn by Arab men) all the time, it should be worn for ceremonial occasions or when the men want to go back to the desert.

With reference to the need for a mindset change, he said it is needed:

"...in your daily life, the things you read, the things you do. Then you catch up with the rest in science and technology and in getting things done. And that's how the Japanese did it, that's how the Chinese are going to do it, that's how the Koreans did it, the Taiwanese, we (Singaporeans), Hong Kong and Indians. Those who want to hang on to just the traditional way of life, traditional lifestyles, they will not catch up with today's modern digital age."

Beautifully put, again! LKY is a class act in his thinking, even if one does not agree with his political viewpoints.

But wasn't that what Dr Mahathir was trying to do to remake Malaysia? Before he got sidetracked?

Sugarfree
24-11-2006, 07:39 PM
But the thing is we are heading right back to the jungle. Wait...we are already there! :mad:

Raikonen
24-11-2006, 07:52 PM
It's just too bad that it's not LKY who's managing Msia. It's just down to who forms the majority of the nation.