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sirgalahad2010
25-05-2006, 05:08 PM
I read Marina Mahathir's article, which was first published in The Star, in the Spore TODAY newspaper today.

It's a damn good piece of writing.

In connection with The Da Vinci Code book, Marina wrote: "....if anyone tried to write a similar thriller based around Islam, they'd be hounded and pilloried and threatened with death, thousands would riot in protest and people who would never have been able to read the book, either because they are illiterate or can't afford it, would have died.

"Such is the difference between our religions.

"While there are many Christians who are upset about the book and movie, they are countering it with seminars and other educational events to balance what is being said in the book, even if the book is only fiction.

"There have not been Da Vinci Code-related riots or deaths thus far. Which speaks volumes for the adherents of the faith."

She then goes on to write: "But when people, supposedly in the name of religion, riot, burn and kill, it can't help but give the impression of a religion that advocates this, no matter how much we point out that nowhere in religious texts itself does it say you should do this.

"And unfortunately we get the whole spectrum, from men who publicly insult women on a daily basis without censure to the real crazies...I think the only people who can dispel stereotypes about Muslims are women......"

And she concludes: "...And because within ourselves, we respect diversity, we can do the same with others. Then peace would truly have a chance."

Yup, Marina Mahathir is my kind of person. And as long as there are people like her who are willing to stand up and articulate their views in public, there's hope for Malaysia yet.

And I think that TDM must feel exasperated affection for this headstrong daughter of his. :)

bugbear
25-05-2006, 05:16 PM
Brilliant writing. No hold barrel.

jianwei85
25-05-2006, 10:37 PM
She was like a thorn in Tun M's gomen last time...seriously talking out issues regarding policies, women's right n etc..even if it was Tun's decision..so if last time mayb she did hold back a little bit..guess now she dun have to hold back anymore :D

Well writen, Marina!

USJ27Resident
25-05-2006, 10:41 PM
I read Marina Mahathir's article, which was first published in The Star, in the Spore TODAY newspaper today. :)

and your point?... we had discussed this weeks ago la....

unless good ol' SIN-JA-PORE newspaper got no more "modal" to story about Malaysia eh? :rolleyes:

AllUrban
27-05-2006, 01:40 PM
In connection with The Da Vinci Code book, Marina wrote: "....if anyone tried to write a similar thriller based around Islam, they'd be hounded and pilloried and threatened with death, thousands would riot in protest and people who would never have been able to read the book, either because they are illiterate or can't afford it, would have died.

"Such is the difference between our religions.So she's a religious scholar now :)

Smart lady...

But I beg to differ....The difference that she is referring to is not a religious point...it is a social point.

The problem is social because many muslims allow themselves to be led around by the nose instead of finding truths out for themselves... which ironically is in direct contrast to the teachings of Islam.

Muslims all over the world protested against the cartoons...as much about the cartoon issue (a perceived lack of respect for an Islamic tradition) as other issues like a perceived lack of respect for Islam in general.

The difference is that the authorities in many countries did not allow the protests to get out of hand...because those authorities can control their population...and the population respect the authorities

In countries where the authorities have little or no control, and no respect, the protests were allowed to happen and allowed to get out of hand...

Perhaps the governments realize that allowing protests against these issues are a "safety valve" of sorts, to release the tensions and pressure that might one day be applied against the government itself.

MM should be more careful with her writing....IMHO...and by the way, someone did write a story...the Satanic Verses...and yes, there were protests...and empty threats from hot-headed people...but Salman Rushdie is still alive...and his career (such as it is) is feeding off the anger that his 3rd-rate work generated....

As for the da vinci code...I think that people are very concerned about this issue. Could there be screaming protests about the da vinci code....there were! Just as there were also dignified respectable protests about the cartoons issue...in fact, these reasonable protests happened in Denmark and northern Europe for 12 months before the issue flared up!

Could you imagine if the entire catholic population of the phillippines started protesting against the movie, and this led to violence that really was directed against Arroyo? Im sure no one would be criticising their religion...they would be blaming the leader...But if the protests were to happen in Indonesia, it would just be those crazy muslims....

Cheers, m

Joe Gomez
27-05-2006, 02:35 PM
So she's a religious scholar now :)

Smart lady...

But I beg to differ....The difference that she is referring to is not a religious point...it is a social point.
................AllUrban, when read in context it does sound like she is talking of the adherents rather than the religion per se ........


I do have a soft spot for this lady lor. thats why I quote her in my tag line .... :D

AllUrban
27-05-2006, 02:41 PM
AllUrban, when read in context it does sound like she is talking of the adherents rather than the religion per se ........


I do have a soft spot for this lady lor. thats why I quote her in my tag line .... :DI like her too...and the message is wise

point well taken...It was that one phrase "such is the difference in our religions" that I didnt like....for that phrase sends the wrong message...in my eyes.

Cheers, m

Joe Gomez
27-05-2006, 02:57 PM
I like her too...and the message is wise

point well taken...It was that one phrase "such is the difference in our religions" that I didnt like....for that phrase sends the wrong message...in my eyes.

Cheers, mU r right .... it does give the wrong msg ..... but then she, like our chang, probably did not have the benefit of a British grammar school lor .......... :D :D :D
Do forgive me for any lack of clarity as I had not the good fortune of an earlier education in a British grammer school.