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Erubus
15-05-2006, 11:36 PM
Hi all,

I'm looking up on this company for a friend who is interested in joining this "mlm" company. She had asked me to find out more on this company for her.

I have done my research on this company but have not known anyone with first hand experience from this company.

Would anyone give his/her comments on this? Please keep it to facts and opinions and not just "Its a scam".

No solicitation please.

Ok now for the juicy part.

According to my research. GoldQuest/ QuestNet operate under the name "QuestNet LTD" co. ref no. "993949-P" .

Interesting thing is that they claim their are not a mlm company and they're not selling any product(s) thus not requiring any Direct Sales Act 1993 (DSA) license. I have look up according to Mnistry of Domestic Trade and Consumer Affairs website i fail to find any company with that name or similar name with a DSA license. And this list is not a outdated list.

http://www.kpdnhep.gov.my/index?cpa...an_Langsung_sah

This company claims that they don't have distributors or independant distributors but they sell their products to customers whom in return recommends another customer(s) to them and the customer whom referred someone to buy from them is given a commision. But the thing is the 1st customer is given an account to do these dealings with. So is he/she a distributor or "customer" as claim by the company?

This company deals mainly with numismatic prodcuts ie. gold coins/ silver coins and claims it to be collectables. But the price of the coin that you're buying is way way way more then gold or silver market price. Read 300% more. They claims that its a collectible coins and price would appreciate in time.

I checked their website www.quest.net look at their product under category numismatic/coin.
The 1st coin is listed as "Year of the Dog Commemorative Coin" Retail Price US$:590 S&H:US$60 . Click on it and it says the coin is 6grams 999.9 fine gold which 6grams = 0.212 ounce. And compare that to US 2006 American Eagle Gold Proof Coin one-quarted ounce(0.25 ounce) Selling for US$200.

www.usmint.gov or even www.kitco.com which sells slightly cheaper for the same 2006 American Eagle Gold Proof Coin.

Now can someone tell me why is it being sold 300% more expensive compare to coins of similar weight? What's so special about their coins ? I can't find any Rare Coins dealer that carries their coins and can't find anything to support such a markup. I'm no expert in gold or gold coins or such but is this legal?

So can our Kijang Emas Gold Coin be sold at similar price to QN/GQ ?

Questnet/GoldQuest seems to be ban in several country. Sri Lanka Central Bank ban them. Iran seems to ban them as well but news that i found are as old as 2003. So i've no idea are they still ban in those countries.

I plan to call Ministry of Domestic trade & Consumer affairs to get a clearer picture of these guys. And i have to do it soon before my friend jump into this and drown. Btw she told me she needs to pay/buy/invest RM2000+ to do/join/sell for them. And lots of QN/GQ "customers/members" been calling her since she worked on one of the booth as a promoter for few days during their convention a week or 2 ago in Sunway Pyramid Convention Center.

If anyone have any information on them please share it here.

Would update if i hear anything from Ministry of trade.

KelvC
16-05-2006, 01:03 AM
Hello Erubus, here are some links for you to do your research and come up with your own conclusion:

http://www.quest.net/default.aspx

http://www.qi-ltd.com/

http://www.v-team.net/index.asp

http://www.kpdnhep.gov.my/index?cpath=65_80_551&pub=Senarai_Penuh_Syarikat_Jualan_Langsung_sah (as of April 2006)

http://www.qn-global.com/index.htm

http://www.qi-ltd.com/rythm/other.htm

The rest is yours.

Erubus
16-05-2006, 02:47 AM
I just look at QN Global co. ref no. 656866-W.
In QN Global they don't give any hints that they're related to Questnet or GoldQuest but they have the same Managing Director.

And the Direct Sales License is issued for QN Global which is selling Wellness supplements.

Can they use that Wellness Supplements DSA license for other company? QUESTNET LTD co. ref no. 993949-P

Isnt that illegal? Anyway would get clarification from Domestic trade.

Thank you anyway :)

IanQ
16-05-2006, 02:26 PM
There is nothing wrong with overpricing a product to make exorbitant profits. It’s a matter of whether you as a buyer/consumer/user willing to part your money for such product.

In this case, it is the form of a commodity which everyone is aware and can substitute (in this case it is gold and silver, so if one does not buy the coins from Quest.net, one can always buy the raw form). Why pay a premium for a commodity? Another question is what is so great about the commemorative coins that the coins from Quest net that command such premium?

Hence, Erubus, advice your friend to invest directly in gold if that is her inclination to participate in the view that gold prices will go up (again, it is anyone’s guess if the recent rise in gold prices is sustainable). If she wanted to join Quest Net for some other reason (like for the reward scheme), it is another discussion which I think enough people has commented.

cikgu_questnet
05-08-2006, 10:52 AM
Hi all,

I'm looking up on this company for a friend who is interested in joining this "mlm" company. She had asked me to find out more on this company for her.

I have done my research on this company but have not known anyone with first hand experience from this company.

Would anyone give his/her comments on this? Please keep it to facts and opinions and not just "Its a scam".

No solicitation please.

Ok now for the juicy part.

According to my research. GoldQuest/ QuestNet operate under the name "QuestNet LTD" co. ref no. "993949-P" .

Interesting thing is that they claim their are not a mlm company and they're not selling any product(s) thus not requiring any Direct Sales Act 1993 (DSA) license. I have look up according to Mnistry of Domestic Trade and Consumer Affairs website i fail to find any company with that name or similar name with a DSA license. And this list is not a outdated list.

http://www.kpdnhep.gov.my/index?cpa...an_Langsung_sah

This company claims that they don't have distributors or independant distributors but they sell their products to customers whom in return recommends another customer(s) to them and the customer whom referred someone to buy from them is given a commision. But the thing is the 1st customer is given an account to do these dealings with. So is he/she a distributor or "customer" as claim by the company?

This company deals mainly with numismatic prodcuts ie. gold coins/ silver coins and claims it to be collectables. But the price of the coin that you're buying is way way way more then gold or silver market price. Read 300% more. They claims that its a collectible coins and price would appreciate in time.

I checked their website www.quest.net look at their product under category numismatic/coin.
The 1st coin is listed as "Year of the Dog Commemorative Coin" Retail Price US$:590 S&H:US$60 . Click on it and it says the coin is 6grams 999.9 fine gold which 6grams = 0.212 ounce. And compare that to US 2006 American Eagle Gold Proof Coin one-quarted ounce(0.25 ounce) Selling for US$200.

www.usmint.gov or even www.kitco.com which sells slightly cheaper for the same 2006 American Eagle Gold Proof Coin.

Now can someone tell me why is it being sold 300% more expensive compare to coins of similar weight? What's so special about their coins ? I can't find any Rare Coins dealer that carries their coins and can't find anything to support such a markup. I'm no expert in gold or gold coins or such but is this legal?

So can our Kijang Emas Gold Coin be sold at similar price to QN/GQ ?

Questnet/GoldQuest seems to be ban in several country. Sri Lanka Central Bank ban them. Iran seems to ban them as well but news that i found are as old as 2003. So i've no idea are they still ban in those countries.

I plan to call Ministry of Domestic trade & Consumer affairs to get a clearer picture of these guys. And i have to do it soon before my friend jump into this and drown. Btw she told me she needs to pay/buy/invest RM2000+ to do/join/sell for them. And lots of QN/GQ "customers/members" been calling her since she worked on one of the booth as a promoter for few days during their convention a week or 2 ago in Sunway Pyramid Convention Center.

If anyone have any information on them please share it here.

Would update if i hear anything from Ministry of trade.


Interesting thing is that they claim their are not a mlm company and they're not selling any product(s) thus not requiring any Direct Sales Act 1993 (DSA) license. I have look up according to Mnistry of Domestic Trade and Consumer Affairs website i fail to find any company with that name or similar name with a DSA license. And this list is not a outdated list.[/B]

Saya tertarik membaca semua komen yang ditujukan kepada QUESTNET. terutamanya daripada [B]ERUBUS. saya rasa apa yang ERUBUS katakan adalah palsu dan tidak betul. Jika semua member hendak tahu mengenai kewujudan QUESTNET di Malaysia, silalah ke AMCORP MALL. lihat sendiri pejabat yang didaftarkan di bawah akta R.O.C(REGISTER UNDER FOREIGN COMPANY). Ia bukanlah syarikat jualan langsungundefined. . Saya bukan nak bertegang leher tapi membetulkan apa yang palsu. Jika ingin berhubung dengan saya, jangan malu-malu email kepada saya cikgu_questnet@yahoo.com. Jika nak tengok produk, dan cek yang telah diperolehi, saya boleh tunjukkan.

JIKA SYARIKAT INI DIHARAMKAN DI MALAYSIA, SUDAH LAMA IA DISERBU DAN DITUTUP OLEH PENGUATKUASA KERAJAAN MALAYSIA. INI BUKTI JELAS MENUNJUKKAN PENIAGAAN QUESTNET ADALAH SAH DI SISI UNDANG-UNDANG MALAYSIA.

QUESTNET MENJUAL PRODUK YANG MEMPUNYAI CETAKAN PADA MUKA SYILING YANG MEMERLUKAN TANDATANGAN PERJANJIAN DAN PEMBAYARAN ROYALTI KEPADA KERAJAAN NEGARA-NEGARA YANG TERLIBAT, FIFA, F1, IBF, OIC, PBB/UN, UNIVERSITI AL-AZHAR. Oleh sebab itu, harga emasnya mahal. Syarikat ini sangat teguh dan pernah menyertai MONEY FAIR 2003 DI KUALA LUMPUR, MENAJA PASUKAN BRASIL KETIKA SESI PERLAWANAN PERSAHABATAN sebelum WORLD CUP GERMANY 2006, PERTANDINGAN BADMINTON DUNIA YANG AKAN BERLANGSUNG PADA BULAN OGOS ATAU SEPTEMBER 2006, MENAJA DISNEY ON ICE 28 HINGGA 07 DISEMBER 2003 DI BUKIT JALIL DAN BANYAK LAGI.

SYILING YANG DIKELUARKAN OLEH KERAJAAN SENDIRI SEPERTI KIJANG EMAS DAN SEPERTI DI USA, TIDAK MEMERLUKAN PEMBAYARAN ROYALTI KEPADA SESIAPA SEBAB ITU HARGANYA JAUH LEBIH MURAH.

SEBAGAI CONTOH:-
JIKA KITA MENGGUNAKAN MUKA PELE ATAU DAVID BECHAM TANPA KEBENARAN, SYARIKAT QUESTNET AKAN DISAMAN OLEH FIFA DAN MEREKA YANG TERLIBAT. MAKA PEMBAYARAN ROYALTI KEPADA FIFA DAN PEMAIN-PEMAIN TERBABIT MENGGUNAKAN WANG DAN BUKANNYA FREE......

orange88
18-08-2006, 01:12 AM
Interesting thing is that they claim their are not a mlm company and they're not selling any product(s) thus not requiring any Direct Sales Act 1993 (DSA) license. I have look up according to Mnistry of Domestic Trade and Consumer Affairs website i fail to find any company with that name or similar name with a DSA license. And this list is not a outdated list.[/B]

Saya tertarik membaca semua komen yang ditujukan kepada QUESTNET. terutamanya daripada [B]ERUBUS. saya rasa apa yang ERUBUS katakan adalah palsu dan tidak betul. Jika semua member hendak tahu mengenai kewujudan QUESTNET di Malaysia, silalah ke AMCORP MALL. lihat sendiri pejabat yang didaftarkan di bawah akta R.O.C(REGISTER UNDER FOREIGN COMPANY). Ia bukanlah syarikat jualan langsungundefined. . Saya bukan nak bertegang leher tapi membetulkan apa yang palsu. Jika ingin berhubung dengan saya, jangan malu-malu email kepada saya cikgu_questnet@yahoo.com. Jika nak tengok produk, dan cek yang telah diperolehi, saya boleh tunjukkan.

JIKA SYARIKAT INI DIHARAMKAN DI MALAYSIA, SUDAH LAMA IA DISERBU DAN DITUTUP OLEH PENGUATKUASA KERAJAAN MALAYSIA. INI BUKTI JELAS MENUNJUKKAN PENIAGAAN QUESTNET ADALAH SAH DI SISI UNDANG-UNDANG MALAYSIA.

QUESTNET MENJUAL PRODUK YANG MEMPUNYAI CETAKAN PADA MUKA SYILING YANG MEMERLUKAN TANDATANGAN PERJANJIAN DAN PEMBAYARAN ROYALTI KEPADA KERAJAAN NEGARA-NEGARA YANG TERLIBAT, FIFA, F1, IBF, OIC, PBB/UN, UNIVERSITI AL-AZHAR. Oleh sebab itu, harga emasnya mahal. Syarikat ini sangat teguh dan pernah menyertai MONEY FAIR 2003 DI KUALA LUMPUR, MENAJA PASUKAN BRASIL KETIKA SESI PERLAWANAN PERSAHABATAN sebelum WORLD CUP GERMANY 2006, PERTANDINGAN BADMINTON DUNIA YANG AKAN BERLANGSUNG PADA BULAN OGOS ATAU SEPTEMBER 2006, MENAJA DISNEY ON ICE 28 HINGGA 07 DISEMBER 2003 DI BUKIT JALIL DAN BANYAK LAGI.

SYILING YANG DIKELUARKAN OLEH KERAJAAN SENDIRI SEPERTI KIJANG EMAS DAN SEPERTI DI USA, TIDAK MEMERLUKAN PEMBAYARAN ROYALTI KEPADA SESIAPA SEBAB ITU HARGANYA JAUH LEBIH MURAH.

SEBAGAI CONTOH:-
JIKA KITA MENGGUNAKAN MUKA PELE ATAU DAVID BECHAM TANPA KEBENARAN, SYARIKAT QUESTNET AKAN DISAMAN OLEH FIFA DAN MEREKA YANG TERLIBAT. MAKA PEMBAYARAN ROYALTI KEPADA FIFA DAN PEMAIN-PEMAIN TERBABIT MENGGUNAKAN WANG DAN BUKANNYA FREE......


jangan cakap tentang malaysia, but other banks already banned in.. what have u got to say though? lolx

Balramman
25-08-2006, 02:02 PM
Dear friends,
i am interested to see that Cikgu quest net,orange88,erubus and others are debating about this company.
Only those who are really had some interest in live will discuss something benefit.
i am really proud of all your discussion.
for your information especially for Erubus and Orange i am an Assitant Professor in one of the well known University at the same time a full time networking. I am a Questnetter for the past 4 years plus. seriously building around 12 countries in globe.
therefore if you really sincerely had some interest , no worrys and no promises that you need not to join. but if really want to a honours information ask me one by one i will definately share with you.
Myself including many other networkers are earning weekly in USD dollars by also helping others to solve or sort out their financial problems.
you also contact me through 6016 365 1309.

with regards,
balramman

cikgu_questnet
26-08-2006, 07:13 PM
jangan cakap tentang malaysia, but other banks already banned in.. what have u got to say though? lolx

;) SAYA RASA orange88 hanya sebagai provok dalam web komuniti ini. Semua apa yang dikatakan adalah sesuatu yang tidak berasas dan tanpa bukti. HARAP orange88 DAPAT MENYERTAKAN BUKTI YANG QUESTNET TELAH DIBANNED DI NEGARA LAIN. DI SINI SAYA LAMPIRKAN BUKTI YANG SYARIKAT INI SAH. BARU-BARU INI SYARIKAT INDUK QUESTNET IAITU QI LTD TELAH MENJADI PENAJA UTAMA BADMINTON DUNIA DI MADRID.
ANDA BOLEH BACA DI AKHBAR THE STAR VIA ALAMAT INI :
http://thestar.com.my/sports/story.asp?file=/2006/8/12/sports/15126438&sec=sports


Malaysia bank on Chong Wei to win world title

( Admin note - copyrighted article from TheStar removed )

orange88
27-08-2006, 02:52 AM
Dear friends,
i am interested to see that Cikgu quest net,orange88,erubus and others are debating about this company.
Only those who are really had some interest in live will discuss something benefit.
i am really proud of all your discussion.
for your information especially for Erubus and Orange i am an Assitant Professor in one of the well known University at the same time a full time networking. I am a Questnetter for the past 4 years plus. seriously building around 12 countries in globe.
therefore if you really sincerely had some interest , no worrys and no promises that you need not to join. but if really want to a honours information ask me one by one i will definately share with you.
Myself including many other networkers are earning weekly in USD dollars by also helping others to solve or sort out their financial problems.
you also contact me through 6016 365 1309.

with regards,
balramman


I'm glad to know you're a proffessor. I'm very sure a professor would be able to spell the word 'asisstant' and use his/her english grammar/spellings properly.
I'm only a local grad for your information and like any other tom dick or harry around here, i'm able to get my message across. Which university did you grad and is currently teaching? i would like to write a letter requesting explanations on the poor english usage and how could your previous university/s allow a grad like you to be a proffessor? do you mind giving me the names of the universities involved?
its no wonder our kids nowadays do not have a good command in english language. i'm not against anyone but i'm just speaking my views, being honest.

what kind of thing are you building in the 12 countries of the globe?
what kind of honours information can you provide me? 1st class? 2nd class or 3rd class honours?
Well, I HAD interest but that was long time ago after i read much about MLM on the net and experiences

cheers

orange88
27-08-2006, 03:01 AM
;) SAYA RASA orange88 hanya sebagai provok dalam web komuniti ini. Semua apa yang dikatakan adalah sesuatu yang tidak berasas dan tanpa bukti. HARAP orange88 DAPAT MENYERTAKAN BUKTI YANG QUESTNET TELAH DIBANNED DI NEGARA LAIN. DI SINI SAYA LAMPIRKAN BUKTI YANG SYARIKAT INI SAH. BARU-BARU INI SYARIKAT INDUK QUESTNET IAITU QI LTD TELAH MENJADI PENAJA UTAMA BADMINTON DUNIA DI MADRID.
ANDA BOLEH BACA DI AKHBAR THE STAR VIA ALAMAT INI :
http://thestar.com.my/sports/story.asp?file=/2006/8/12/sports/15126438&sec=sports


Malaysia bank on Chong Wei to win world title

( Admin note - copyrighted article from TheStar removed )

apa yang saudara rasa adalah rasa saudara sendiri, tiada kena mengena dengan saya. terima kasih

cikgu_questnet
27-08-2006, 09:43 AM
apa yang saudara rasa adalah rasa saudara sendiri, tiada kena mengena dengan saya. terima kasih

NAMPAKNYA orange88 TIADA BUKTI YANG BOLEH DITUNJUKKAN BAGI MENERANGKAN APA YANG DIKATAKANNYA. INI JELAS MENUNJUKKAN SEMUA KENYATAAN YANG DIBERIKAN TERHADAP QUESTNET ADALAH TIDAK BENAR. DIHARAP KITA DUDUK DALAM KOMUNITI INI DAPAT MEMBERIKAN SESUATU YANG BENAR BAGI PENGETAHUAN UMUM. JIKA KITA TIDAK TAHU JANGAN HENDAK MEMANDAI-MANDAI. KALAU KITA HENDAK BERFORUM, LEBIH BAIK KITA BINCANGKAN APA YANG KITA TAHU. KALAU TIDAK, LEBIH BAIK BERTANYA DAN JANGAN SELALU NAK MENJATUHKAN ORANG LAIN. HARAP orange88 lebih matang dalam memberi pendapat. Rasanya umur orange88 ni pun masih muda kerana selalu hendak memperlekehkan orang lain termasuk asst.prof.balramman. Mungkin beliau tersalah ejaan. Jadi mengapa perlu mempersoalkan orang lain punya pencapaian sedangkan orange88 sendiri belum dapat mencapai tahap seperti balramman. Belajarlah berbudi bahasa. Universiti mana yang mengajar anak didiknya supaya kurang ajar dalam percakapan?. ILMU ITU LEBIH BAIK DENGAN BUDI PEKERTI YANG MULIA.

orchipalar
27-08-2006, 10:39 AM
Err...pardon Orchi's ignorance...but are you talking about the same GoldQuest (http://news.sinhalaya.com/wmview.php?ArtID=8158) here...which is reported to be banned by Sri Lanka government?

Or did the same happened in Iran... (http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?edition_id=10&categ_id=3&article_id=19789)...as well?

n an article of it is also publised in www.fraudsandscams.com

http://www.fraudsandscams.com/examples.htm

n as early as in the year 2002...the following article is publised in www.mlmwatchdog.com

GoldQuest Selling of Vouchers a "Security" not a Pure Pyramid Activity - It's Worse!
Gold and Precious Metals Automatically
Attract the Attention of the Law! Bad Attention!

http://www.mlmwatchdog.com/Report_GoldQuest.html

http://www.mlmwatchdog.com/Archives2002_1.html

So please check them out to see if they are talking about the same company n issue or not...?

orchipalar
27-08-2006, 10:54 AM
Err...for further read or research...please check out...

http://www.mouthshut.com/review/GoldQuest.com-54567-1.html

http://forums.vr-zone.com/showpost.php?p=625385&postcount=8

Gov't warns: Aquino coin
sale may be 'pyramid' scam
Posted: 4:26 AM (Manila Time) | Aug. 19, 2003
By Michelle V. Remo
Inquirer News Service

THE "CHAMPION for Peace" commemorative coins in honor of opposition leader Benigno Aquino Jr. could be part of a pyramid scam, the Department of Trade and Industry (DTI) said Monday.

Trade and Industry Secretary Manuel Roxas II warned the public against putting their money in GoldQuest Philippines, country representative of Hong Kong-based GoldQuest International that would market the commemorative gold and silver coins, together with the Spirit of EDSA Foundation.

http://www.inq7.net/nat/2003/aug/19/nat_10-1.htm

Tamil Nadu-Chennai

Finance company sealed, bank accounts frozen

By K. Manikandan

CHENNAI AUG. 21. With the arrest of Goldquest officials in Chennai, where the company's India headquarters is located, police claimed to have exposed yet another alleged money circulation racket. Over 50 members have filed complaints stating that the company owed around Rs 12 lakhs to them.

The arrested persons include Pushpam, a Malaysian citizen of Indian origin and company managing director, Joseph Augustine, accounts executive, and Pushpendra Kumar Shukla, public relations officer.

http://www.hinduonnet.com/2003/08/22/stories/2003082210240300.htm

Probe into International Firm Turns Ugly in Sri Lanka
Champika Liyanaarachchi
OneWorld South Asia
05 July 2004
COLOMBO, July 5 (OneWorld) - A murder attempt on a customs sleuth probing a controversial international company has scared thousands of its customers in Sri Lanka, where business analysts say weak laws allow scams to flourish at the expense of citizens.

The attack came two days after the Central Bank announced it was planning to take tough action against the firm's over 4,000 customers, who are accused of violating the country's exchange control laws by allowing third party transactions through their credit cards after entering the scheme.

The suspect company, numismatics firm GoldQuest, runs a pyramid scheme through which customers are rewarded richly for bringing others on board.

http://southasia.oneworld.net/article/view/89307/1/33

cikgu_questnet
28-08-2006, 09:49 PM
Err...for further read or research...please check out...

http://www.mouthshut.com/review/GoldQuest.com-54567-1.html

http://forums.vr-zone.com/showpost.php?p=625385&postcount=8

Gov't warns: Aquino coin
sale may be 'pyramid' scam
Posted: 4:26 AM (Manila Time) | Aug. 19, 2003
By Michelle V. Remo
Inquirer News Service

THE "CHAMPION for Peace" commemorative coins in honor of opposition leader Benigno Aquino Jr. could be part of a pyramid scam, the Department of Trade and Industry (DTI) said Monday.

Trade and Industry Secretary Manuel Roxas II warned the public against putting their money in GoldQuest Philippines, country representative of Hong Kong-based GoldQuest International that would market the commemorative gold and silver coins, together with the Spirit of EDSA Foundation.

http://www.inq7.net/nat/2003/aug/19/nat_10-1.htm

Tamil Nadu-Chennai

Finance company sealed, bank accounts frozen

By K. Manikandan

CHENNAI AUG. 21. With the arrest of Goldquest officials in Chennai, where the company's India headquarters is located, police claimed to have exposed yet another alleged money circulation racket. Over 50 members have filed complaints stating that the company owed around Rs 12 lakhs to them.

The arrested persons include Pushpam, a Malaysian citizen of Indian origin and company managing director, Joseph Augustine, accounts executive, and Pushpendra Kumar Shukla, public relations officer.

http://www.hinduonnet.com/2003/08/22/stories/2003082210240300.htm

Probe into International Firm Turns Ugly in Sri Lanka
Champika Liyanaarachchi
OneWorld South Asia
05 July 2004
COLOMBO, July 5 (OneWorld) - A murder attempt on a customs sleuth probing a controversial international company has scared thousands of its customers in Sri Lanka, where business analysts say weak laws allow scams to flourish at the expense of citizens.

The attack came two days after the Central Bank announced it was planning to take tough action against the firm's over 4,000 customers, who are accused of violating the country's exchange control laws by allowing third party transactions through their credit cards after entering the scheme.

The suspect company, numismatics firm GoldQuest, runs a pyramid scheme through which customers are rewarded richly for bringing others on board.

http://southasia.oneworld.net/article/view/89307/1/33



Saya sudah meneliti semua laman web yang diberikan oleh orchipalar, namun menjadi tanda tanya....Apakah kerajaan Sri Lanka tidak dapat mencari syarikat induk Qi atau Goldquest yang terdapat alamat tetapnya di Hong Kong. Ada juga artikel itu yang dikeluarkan pada tahun 2002 tetapi tahun 2003 Qi telah menaja pertandingan badminton dunia di Birmingham dan menaja F1 Grand Prix di Monaco. Adakah IBF dan F1 akan bekerjasama dengan sebuah syarikat yang diharamkan?????? Tak cukup itu, tahun 2006 ini Qi LTD juga telah menaja pasukan Brazil untuk perlawanan persahabatan sebelum piala dunia di German 2006 dan baru-baru ini telah menaja sekali lagi IBF world Championships yang akan diadakan di Madrid. Majalah Business Today keluaran OGOS 2006 ada menunjukkan pelaburan yang bakal Qi LTD adakan di Malaysia dengan membina Resort di Rompin, Pahang, membuat talian VoIP dan broadband(usahasama dengan kerajaan negeri Perak) dan kerjasama dengan TV3(masih dalam perbincangan).

Selain daripada alamat web yang diberikan adalah ruangan FORUM, yang boleh ditulis oleh sesiapa sahaja yang ingin menjatuhkan Qi LTD. Kalau syarikat ini bermasalah dari segi undang-undang, tolonglah buat aduan kepada pihak yang berwajib dan sita pejabat kami di Amcorp Mall Petaling Jaya secepat mungkin. Hadapkanlah syarikat ini ke Mahkamah dengan segera, supaya KEBENARAN DAPAT DITEGAKKAN..

Balramman
29-08-2006, 10:53 AM
I'm glad to know you're a proffessor. I'm very sure a professor would be able to spell the word 'asisstant' and use his/her english grammar/spellings properly.
I'm only a local grad for your information and like any other tom dick or harry around here, i'm able to get my message across. Which university did you grad and is currently teaching? i would like to write a letter requesting explanations on the poor english usage and how could your previous university/s allow a grad like you to be a proffessor? do you mind giving me the names of the universities involved?
its no wonder our kids nowadays do not have a good command in english language. i'm not against anyone but i'm just speaking my views, being honest.

what kind of thing are you building in the 12 countries of the globe?
what kind of honours information can you provide me? 1st class? 2nd class or 3rd class honours?
Well, I HAD interest but that was long time ago after i read much about MLM on the net and experiences

cheers

thank you very much mr.Orange88,
for your correction. I do agreed that is my typo error. my sincere apology for itand thank you very much for correcting it. i do agreed that our children are learning from everything from what we do. so therefore what the mistake we do is also will be reflected from other activities especialiiy when from our children.
At the same time as you have mentioned eveything i also find that you also make mistake in typing the word "proffessor". do you want me to say that you dont know anything about english?
But i see different picture over all from your write up brother.
I believe that we all are here to share honously about our view points about what is happening around us. I am very assured that i dont expect everybody to accept what the other person says. indeed it is wrong brother for someone to expect in that way. however it is also not a good practice and also not a good attitude for me to
1. say something just like that without a proper prove.I believe that all the readers here in this forum may agreed that,eveything that is thrown in any media is needed to be truely known to that matter as what actually has happen before we are reading and also very important we all must follow up and simultaneously analysis the true picture from your conscious. that is my humble request for aal brothers and sisters in this forum.
2. we all have the right to say and also decide at your will.
3. my brother orange88 i already given to my number earlier. i give you now again 016 365 1309. i am ready to go for a teh tarik with you brother.call me we can go. i honous brother. infact i love to share with you all heart to heart. are you ready. i can not write everything i do but i can talk to you all together. i am ready , are you ready brother/sisters?
4. i am teaching, training and guiding more than 400 people in these and also many more people how to financially freed and more than that to have your time freedom.
indeed all (including me and you brother/sister) are wanting these two , that is the reason why we all are going to work.- But honously ask your self ( i already asked 4 years ago ) ever you have grumbled your self that no enough money and not enough time. however ready make ourself(including myself) to
let other person to control our life. dont we. is it not that gereration after generation we have been working but had never solved this problem.
doing what you are doing now ever solved this problem or can you assured that it will solve in near future.
Talking about the article that you all have given is true i agreed. But my question is did you all when on find out what happen later.
You may say what i care, if that is your answer then i would say that we have no write to raise that as a issue, since we are not bothered.
3. thank you brother/sister orange88 again. from your last line that i could able to understand ( may be i am wrong- until and unless i talk to you personally ) your feeling or worry, since you wrote it that going thru the internet. i am not sure you have practically involved in it or not. By the way we Questnetters are following CRP(customer refferal program) . we are not MLM or Direct selling sellers. These are all networking profession but they make plenty of difference. May be you
a) worry but we make money
b) dont have time since letting others to control yours but i am coming out of it by going a distance. ready to take a challenge
c) you have less time with your family, but i am learning and creating from this biz how to create passive income and have more time for me and for my family and society.Above all i also help others to have the same.
4) and many more.
i would recommand you to read the book " the new professional' by charles king.

by the way last sat and sun(26/08 and 27/08) i was in Pd learning at the same time training my group in a 'Leadership camp". That why i was unable to reply immediately
ok brothers/sisters i am ready to talk to all of you , are you all ready?

for cikgu Quest net. i believe that you dont take things as argument. My humbel request.

with love ,
your brother at service,
balramman

Balramman
29-08-2006, 10:56 AM
sorry again,
since i was rushing if there is alot of grammatical error or english error,
my apologise to all. But this is common in email since we all use short terms very often. please look at the inner meaning then the spelling.

with regards,
balramman


thank you very much mr.Orange88,
for your correction. I do agreed that is my typo error. my sincere apology for itand thank you very much for correcting it. i do agreed that our children are learning from everything from what we do. so therefore what the mistake we do is also will be reflected from other activities especialiiy when from our children.
At the same time as you have mentioned eveything i also find that you also make mistake in typing the word "proffessor". do you want me to say that you dont know anything about english?
But i see different picture over all from your write up brother.
I believe that we all are here to share honously about our view points about what is happening around us. I am very assured that i dont expect everybody to accept what the other person says. indeed it is wrong brother for someone to expect in that way. however it is also not a good practice and also not a good attitude for me to
1. say something just like that without a proper prove.I believe that all the readers here in this forum may agreed that,eveything that is thrown in any media is needed to be truely known to that matter as what actually has happen before we are reading and also very important we all must follow up and simultaneously analysis the true picture from your conscious. that is my humble request for aal brothers and sisters in this forum.
2. we all have the right to say and also decide at your will.
3. my brother orange88 i already given to my number earlier. i give you now again 016 365 1309. i am ready to go for a teh tarik with you brother.call me we can go. i honous brother. infact i love to share with you all heart to heart. are you ready. i can not write everything i do but i can talk to you all together. i am ready , are you ready brother/sisters?
4. i am teaching, training and guiding more than 400 people in these and also many more people how to financially freed and more than that to have your time freedom.
indeed all (including me and you brother/sister) are wanting these two , that is the reason why we all are going to work.- But honously ask your self ( i already asked 4 years ago ) ever you have grumbled your self that no enough money and not enough time. however ready make ourself(including myself) to
let other person to control our life. dont we. is it not that gereration after generation we have been working but had never solved this problem.
doing what you are doing now ever solved this problem or can you assured that it will solve in near future.
Talking about the article that you all have given is true i agreed. But my question is did you all when on find out what happen later.
You may say what i care, if that is your answer then i would say that we have no write to raise that as a issue, since we are not bothered.
3. thank you brother/sister orange88 again. from your last line that i could able to understand ( may be i am wrong- until and unless i talk to you personally ) your feeling or worry, since you wrote it that going thru the internet. i am not sure you have practically involved in it or not. By the way we Questnetters are following CRP(customer refferal program) . we are not MLM or Direct selling sellers. These are all networking profession but they make plenty of difference. May be you
a) worry but we make money
b) dont have time since letting others to control yours but i am coming out of it by going a distance. ready to take a challenge
c) you have less time with your family, but i am learning and creating from this biz how to create passive income and have more time for me and for my family and society.Above all i also help others to have the same.
4) and many more.
i would recommand you to read the book " the new professional' by charles king.

by the way last sat and sun(26/08 and 27/08) i was in Pd learning at the same time training my group in a 'Leadership camp". That why i was unable to reply immediately
ok brothers/sisters i am ready to talk to all of you , are you all ready?

for cikgu Quest net. i believe that you dont take things as argument. My humbel request.

with love ,
your brother at service,
balramman

orange88
29-08-2006, 11:08 AM
firstly you're not my brother at my service
secondly *yawnz*

Balramman
29-08-2006, 01:58 PM
Just a reminder again to all friends in this forum.
there may be again some error in the speed typing in the above forum. please be informed that we all generally use short terms to represent in email or forum so that we can pass the info of course not intentionally to hide any info. therefore in the quick typing if you still may find typo error please pardon me. its not my( infact all of uur ) intention to purposely make error.
thank you,
with regards
balramman.

Balramman
29-08-2006, 02:02 PM
thank you mr?miss/mrs.Orange88 for your reply.

i dont understand what is the word "yawnz" means. is it ok for you to explain.

with regards,
balramman

firstly you're not my brother at my service
secondly *yawnz*

orange88
30-08-2006, 10:51 AM
its nothing to do with your spelling mistakes, although they're alot. its your grammatical error and i do not feel like answering your questions.
signing out...

Balramman
01-09-2006, 03:12 PM
To mr/mrs/miss.Orange88,
good day again.
you mentioned that you are not interested in answering my question. may i know why?. After you have mentioned many things. anything ,that is stopping you?
It looks like, you like to raising questions against others but not ready to
1. answer if you are questioned based on all you have said and
2. accept even your mistake(s) either.

however let me say what i feel, since we all are discussing alot especially about Questnet (which is a rice bowl for many of us-about 1.5 million people thru out the world doing it. myself and cikgu questnet two of them), i strongly request some of us here to raise something
1. with valid points(reasons) or/and
2.properly based on doubt(which all of us, have the right)
and at the same time(which is a must)
3. lend the ears for other people view points.
otherwise we have no right to thru any questions against any body or any matters. I believe all will accept it. we are not here to pin point against others (hiding behind the forum) just because wanted to do so . it is not ethical to do so . attitude counts brother. Attitude is eveything

also mr/mrs/miss orange 88 you mentioned that it is the grammer. are we here to check on grammers?( until and unless it is a horrible one where none of us including the sender he/she understand the contents ) or mainly to share some view points among each others? so that we all have some good knowledge about what is happening around us and also let our forum friends to be alert with some wrong things happening.we are not english teachers brother.
But from bottom of my heart , i understand or atleast i could able to feel what you are trying to say.i feel you have some worries about networking. i can show you, it is all in your hand. for me my family and children are very important. therefore i have my full focus on their future. in the same manner your decision should be based on your importants. i believe it is not a hear say or just cling on to the past result, but never checked the latest. as i said ,while(if) you are worried, we many of us thru out the world making money and progressing in networking profession. have you thought about it my friend?. .
My focus is mine and my family's future not anything else.i wanted to spend more time with my children with good, happy life style.

LIFE = $$$$...+ TIME
what about yours?
so therefoe i feel that, the way we present any question is most important. one of the book titled " answers are the questions' by Allan pease has explained a good deal of it.
let me assured you- whether you accept or believe it or not
mr/mrs/miss orange88 i totally had never against you or anybody in this forum.i am concerned about, tarnishing of somebody's image (especially when it become rice bowl)without any properly searched/analysed/... evidence.Let me put it to all , " will we do that or keep queit, if our rice bowl is in question due to somebody's ignorance?.i appeal to all. please dont do it, to any fellow beings, whether we know them or not. whether we like it or not.

Despite all this, i still wanted to share my view point about quest net to all in this forum since the matter has been already raised long time back. the reason-
1. it is the rice bowl for me and many of us-it is not justice for me to keep quiet. will you?
2. it is my duty as a questnetter to make sure that all the people in the world to know the actual picture of questnet and what we do.please read business today megazine and go thru the website

http://www.quest.net/pdf/MY_Article.pdf


please remember, an actual Questnetter will never against anybody to who ask any type of question with regards to our biz and biz ethics. infact we welcome that.

so i am still ready to expain to everybody whether one to one or in this forum provided you have the genuine urge to wanted to know about quest net.
i already given my number twice. please call me if you all are interested in it. we can go for teh tarik. This is to all.otherwise my humble request please dont say it again.

in your last message you mentioned that i am not your brother.
of course i am not your your biological brother, but as a malaysian i am even if you are not used to it , i accept all my in malaysia and in the world as my sisters and brothers besides my relatives.

with regards,
balarraaman



its nothing to do with your spelling mistakes, although they're alot. its your grammatical error and i do not feel like answering your questions.
signing out...

orchipalar
01-09-2006, 08:10 PM
Err buddy...strange that there was no attempt from you to answer to Orchi's earlier questions...please do in English instead...TQ.

littlepony
02-09-2006, 12:12 AM
I have come across the QN GLOBAL In amcorp mall . it has a majority bumiputra directors. their products are nothing special , apple cider vinegar, probiotics , and a few products imported from a factory which have no international certification and only claim from US ........... so called approved my MOH . that is not good enough .. okay? anything can be approved provided you have th emeans with money..
no special value in it for Gold quest just another trap for gold diggers .. just another MLM follower company trying to get a pie from the MLM market. just like the small coffee tongkat ali or ginseng coffee small MLM companies trying to follow thorugh the market with just a few products..for the Malay market.

Please shied a way from this company ..

diablo
03-09-2006, 08:17 PM
Can someone explain this piece of news on GoldQuest/Questnet?

http://www.networknewsagency.com/?nav=var&id=21

observer30
04-09-2006, 11:51 AM
I have been observing QN for sometimes. Maybe I can help to answer a bit here.

observer30
04-09-2006, 12:06 PM
To mr/mrs/miss.Orange88,
good day again.
you mentioned that you are not interested in answering my question. may i know why?. After you have mentioned many things. anything ,that is stopping you?
It looks like, you like to raising questions against others but not ready to
1. answer if you are questioned based on all you have said and
2. accept even your mistake(s) either.

however let me say what i feel, since we all are discussing alot especially about Questnet (which is a rice bowl for many of us-about 1.5 million people thru out the world doing it. myself and cikgu questnet two of them), i strongly request some of us here to raise something
1. with valid points(reasons) or/and
2.properly based on doubt(which all of us, have the right)
and at the same time(which is a must)
3. lend the ears for other people view points.
otherwise we have no right to thru any questions against any body or any matters. I believe all will accept it. we are not here to pin point against others (hiding behind the forum) just because wanted to do so . it is not ethical to do so . attitude counts brother. Attitude is eveything

also mr/mrs/miss orange 88 you mentioned that it is the grammer. are we here to check on grammers?( until and unless it is a horrible one where none of us including the sender he/she understand the contents ) or mainly to share some view points among each others? so that we all have some good knowledge about what is happening around us and also let our forum friends to be alert with some wrong things happening.we are not english teachers brother.
But from bottom of my heart , i understand or atleast i could able to feel what you are trying to say.i feel you have some worries about networking. i can show you, it is all in your hand. for me my family and children are very important. therefore i have my full focus on their future. in the same manner your decision should be based on your importants. i believe it is not a hear say or just cling on to the past result, but never checked the latest. as i said ,while(if) you are worried, we many of us thru out the world making money and progressing in networking profession. have you thought about it my friend?. .
My focus is mine and my family's future not anything else.i wanted to spend more time with my children with good, happy life style.

LIFE = $$$$...+ TIME
what about yours?
so therefoe i feel that, the way we present any question is most important. one of the book titled " answers are the questions' by Allan pease has explained a good deal of it.
let me assured you- whether you accept or believe it or not
mr/mrs/miss orange88 i totally had never against you or anybody in this forum.i am concerned about, tarnishing of somebody's image (especially when it become rice bowl)without any properly searched/analysed/... evidence.Let me put it to all , " will we do that or keep queit, if our rice bowl is in question due to somebody's ignorance?.i appeal to all. please dont do it, to any fellow beings, whether we know them or not. whether we like it or not.

Despite all this, i still wanted to share my view point about quest net to all in this forum since the matter has been already raised long time back. the reason-
1. it is the rice bowl for me and many of us-it is not justice for me to keep quiet. will you?
2. it is my duty as a questnetter to make sure that all the people in the world to know the actual picture of questnet and what we do.please read business today megazine and go thru the website

http://www.quest.net/pdf/MY_Article.pdf


please remember, an actual Questnetter will never against anybody to who ask any type of question with regards to our biz and biz ethics. infact we welcome that.

so i am still ready to expain to everybody whether one to one or in this forum provided you have the genuine urge to wanted to know about quest net.
i already given my number twice. please call me if you all are interested in it. we can go for teh tarik. This is to all.otherwise my humble request please dont say it again.

in your last message you mentioned that i am not your brother.
of course i am not your your biological brother, but as a malaysian i am even if you are not used to it , i accept all my in malaysia and in the world as my sisters and brothers besides my relatives.

with regards,
balarraaman


Bala, it seem like you have learnt very well about Questnet.
It hardly explain the business over the web forum! Do you think this can bring impact to readers.

I can give summary about this Business.
Regarding the thread started about the Convention, Yes, questnet was having the BIGGEST event in VTEAM called V-MALAYSIA with huge publisity in TV, newspaper, banners, flyers, and even sign board from KLIA to KL.

There are 2000 networkers eagerly looking for new members at Sunway Pyramid as they were so fired up after the motivational training.

I have been there invited by a friend, also participate in the VCON. I haven't sign up as I still remain neutral to this business.

This company previously was known as GOLDQUEST with only ONE single product range to offer to customer which is GOLDCOINS. They called this NUMISMATIC products which is not a BULLION COIN by weight, but the price is based on ART. If you look at FINE GOLD NUMISMATIC COIN by POH KWONG, you will see that the price is over 100% markup. Which is TRUE!

Currently they have expanded their product ranges to Vacation, Telecommunication, Travel, Health products i.e. Skyjuice/BioDisc, Trainings, etc. They are moving forward to RETAILING CONCEPT, moving away from BINARY CONCEPT which is HIGHLY MISCONCEPT as PYRAMID.

There are many QN hardcore fan refused to see it as PYRAMID. Technically, people like the product, they buy (invest) and the spread the words by mouth using CRP. However, I am very disappointed to many LEADERS (who stand up and talk during normal training at AMCORP) that they ARE NOT FOCUSING IN PRODUCTS but RECRUITMENT. Skills trainings are leading to "Contact&Invite", "Present the Plan" and "Follow Thru". ARE THEY REALLY FOCUSING IN PRODUCTS? NO, IT'S ABOUT PURPOSE IN LIFE. Why are you doing this business? It's about LIFE, changing life. Because of family members, TIME AND MONEY are they concern. This is already penetrated in many networkers mindset, that's why TRAININGS and SYSTEM are extremely important for THEM.

I personally think that QN is a legal company, however the MISCONDUCT of their NETWORKERS are deeply in doubts. I am a business man also experiencing the networkers way before. I have found the pro and cons about MLM business. :D Talking about experience? Am I eligible to say it here? Well, results speak LOUDER! :D

observer30
04-09-2006, 04:45 PM
Hi all,

I'm looking up on this company for a friend who is interested in joining this "mlm" company. She had asked me to find out more on this company for her.

I have done my research on this company but have not known anyone with first hand experience from this company.

Would anyone give his/her comments on this? Please keep it to facts and opinions and not just "Its a scam".

No solicitation please.

Ok now for the juicy part.

According to my research. GoldQuest/ QuestNet operate under the name "QuestNet LTD" co. ref no. "993949-P" .

Interesting thing is that they claim their are not a mlm company and they're not selling any product(s) thus not requiring any Direct Sales Act 1993 (DSA) license. I have look up according to Mnistry of Domestic Trade and Consumer Affairs website i fail to find any company with that name or similar name with a DSA license. And this list is not a outdated list.

http://www.kpdnhep.gov.my/index?cpa...an_Langsung_sah

This company claims that they don't have distributors or independant distributors but they sell their products to customers whom in return recommends another customer(s) to them and the customer whom referred someone to buy from them is given a commision. But the thing is the 1st customer is given an account to do these dealings with. So is he/she a distributor or "customer" as claim by the company?

This company deals mainly with numismatic prodcuts ie. gold coins/ silver coins and claims it to be collectables. But the price of the coin that you're buying is way way way more then gold or silver market price. Read 300% more. They claims that its a collectible coins and price would appreciate in time.

I checked their website www.quest.net look at their product under category numismatic/coin.
The 1st coin is listed as "Year of the Dog Commemorative Coin" Retail Price US$:590 S&H:US$60 . Click on it and it says the coin is 6grams 999.9 fine gold which 6grams = 0.212 ounce. And compare that to US 2006 American Eagle Gold Proof Coin one-quarted ounce(0.25 ounce) Selling for US$200.

www.usmint.gov or even www.kitco.com which sells slightly cheaper for the same 2006 American Eagle Gold Proof Coin.

Now can someone tell me why is it being sold 300% more expensive compare to coins of similar weight? What's so special about their coins ? I can't find any Rare Coins dealer that carries their coins and can't find anything to support such a markup. I'm no expert in gold or gold coins or such but is this legal?

So can our Kijang Emas Gold Coin be sold at similar price to QN/GQ ?

Questnet/GoldQuest seems to be ban in several country. Sri Lanka Central Bank ban them. Iran seems to ban them as well but news that i found are as old as 2003. So i've no idea are they still ban in those countries.

I plan to call Ministry of Domestic trade & Consumer affairs to get a clearer picture of these guys. And i have to do it soon before my friend jump into this and drown. Btw she told me she needs to pay/buy/invest RM2000+ to do/join/sell for them. And lots of QN/GQ "customers/members" been calling her since she worked on one of the booth as a promoter for few days during their convention a week or 2 ago in Sunway Pyramid Convention Center.

If anyone have any information on them please share it here.

Would update if i hear anything from Ministry of trade.

Hi Erubus,
have you contacted local authority? You hardly say this is illegal as it has been all the while located in Amcorp Mall for 8 years. They are HUGE. Many other direct selling close first before QN, because they have been making over a billion turn over. Not only you alone trying to be scambuster/investigate, I am sure many have come across QN/GQ and trying to investigate... however, no results. I think you better question about LB first.

For me, I am neutral. But I have checked QN. Technically, they operates as Direct Selling/MLM/E-Commerce business which is legal. Might be dued to some inethical members who are trying their hardcode selling of the PLAN for more income!

I met some top leaders in QN. I know them too! Some a OK, very humble. Some are pretty LCLY, each words come out from mouth are about $.

orange88
04-09-2006, 08:01 PM
thanks observer, i'm really glad you've explained it in proper english to all the readers of this forum

observer30
04-09-2006, 09:21 PM
Well everybody are allowed to express their opinions about something! I believe in FREESPEECH as long as we also have to follow the forum rules and respect everyone by putting the right words. Therefore let's talk about Questnet issue rather than personal attack in this thread.

I know some Q&A by Questnet.

Endorsement is totally different compared with partnership in business.
Many Questnetters are taking the advantage of endorsement from third party oragnisations to equal them as partnership. This is a piece of misleading information. Just an example: LB can sponsor events i.e. World Cup Fifa, Olympic, etc. But are they (World Cup Fifa, Olympic, etc) become the partners for LB? Therefore by showing the slides and folder on company profiles with third parties endorsements of GOLDQUEST products, in fact, they are talking about Questnet Compensation Plan. The endorsement authority do not endorse all other products by Quest Ltd i.e. Qube, BioDisc, SkyJuice, etc. THEY ARE ENDORSEMENT GOLDQUEST PRODUCTS BECAUSE OF ROYALTY FEE, and this is a BUSINESS, networkers SHOULDN'T take this for granted.

Ethics of networkers. The unethical twisted words from networkers in closing new prospect to join the business is significant issue. Let me ask if QNetters familiar with these words:
"What is the most important things in your life? Doing what you are doing, can you achieve it?" - sounds familiar right? :D

This is what I am trying to say. Yes, you have seen your senior leaders making ton of money. "Fake it till you make it" - I heard of this words in their Thursday function. And guess what I found? Questnet plan is a DREAM PLAN... :D :D

Talking about MLM/NM/E-commerce company, buy/sell reqires product and currency. And buying DREAMS as the main product and putting the product as "gift", all these are finely tuned twisted set of words, and believe me... after you have signed up, you have another set of problems lining up awaiting for you!

Unfortunately, Questnet is moving towards "retailing" concept by introducing a new series of products. If you are Questnet networker, you are in dilemma as your senior leaders telling you to go out and show more plans, the main product is your DREAM. People are forgetting about the products, and talking about the BIG PLAN. This is why networkers are putting alot of trouble with goverments in many countries in making Questnet a PYRAMID PLAN.

If you want to make it right for Questnet (or even other company i.e LB), you have to first knowing the products and focus in selling your products. Customer satisfaction is no.1, then you are successful businessman. But networkers see customer as partners, therefore, they are pushing the "customers" to do the biz... whether he/she likes it or not, you are still right.

Forgive me if I said something hurt you.... If you feel hurt, that means I am speaking the truth!

o_nez
04-09-2006, 11:20 PM
QuestNet / GoldQuest is and has always been a Product-Based Pyramid Scheme (PPS).


http://www.lankabusinessonline.com/fullstory.php?newsID=1520538787


Gold Revelation

12 September 2004 00:00:00

GoldQuest says its products are over priced to include membership maintenance fees


Contradicting all previous claims that GoldQuest products are priced at several times their real gold value because of a supposed 'numismatic' value, the company has revealed to the Court of Appeal that its products are over priced because it has membership maintenance fees incorporated into the sale price.

Pricing membership fees into a product is a characteristic of Product Based Pyramids (PPS).

Unlike old-style voucher based pyramids, where only membership fees are charged, in complex pyramid scams, also known as referral frauds, the membership fees are built into an overpriced product.

The revelation is contained in a covering letter accompanying customer details, after the Court of Appeal of Sri Lanka, ordered GoldQuest to supply the actual transaction values in an on-going under-valuation case.

"Please note that the sales price contained in the web-site consists not only of the product cost but also the administration and membership maintenance fees. Therefore the receipt for the product is higher than the invoice which accompanies the product," GoldQuest's Chief Legal Officer Daniel Porceddu wrote.

The products were bought by individual Sri Lankan customers via GoldQuest's, QuestNet website.

The top leaders who are alleged to have promoted the scheme in Sri Lanka have already been fined Rs. 88 mn by the Department of Exchange Control for foreign exchange fraud.

The local shipping agents of GoldQuest, SAR Shipping applied to the Court of Appeal to release a large consignment of gold products, which Customs seized earlier this year.

Customs have said the company declared false values to customs and suppressed the real remittance details in order to avoid paying taxes due to the Government of Sri Lanka.

The Court of Appeal ordered GoldQuest to release the list of buyers and the transaction prices after the State Counsel appearing for the Department of Customs told court that the master list must be available with the GoldQuest.

In their written answer to the action, Sri Lanka Customs have said that the GoldQuest's own documents (marked 1R5 and 1R5a); show that ultimate buyers of have paid a total of US$ 205,980 (approximately Rs. 20 mn) for the seized 316 GoldQuest products.

But GoldQuest had given a commercial invoice via their shipping agents for the customs declaration (CUSDEC), which showed a value of only US$ 38,998 (Rs. 3.8 mn).

Customs wrote in their answer to court that, "Â…as per the 1R15a the value of the relevant consignment is US$ 205,980 and whereas the Petitioner has falsely and/or fraudulently declared he FOB value of the said consignment as US$ 38,998 in the relevant CSDEC market 1R10," and that "accordingly the Petitioner made a false declaration in the said CUSDEC 1R10 and attempted to evade the payment of the full import duty payable on the relevant consignment."

In the Court of Appeal action the Petitioner, SAR Shipping is seeking a court order to release the goods in the interim, and to pay duty on a basis, where Gold Quest's products have been released previously.

However, Customs is alleging a conspiracy involving at least three government departments, to evade duty in the way GoldQuest were released earlier.

In a separate development, President Kumaratunga came out strongly against pyramid schemes.

The statement came days after GoldQuest started a fresh advertising campaign, touting the virtues of their get-rich-quick scheme, featuring a number of individuals who said they have received massive amounts of money.

The money for such individuals on the 'upline' come from the membership fees contained in the goods bought by new recruits in the 'downline'.

In GoldQuest's scheme, a person who buys the product, have to put at least ten people, in a similar plight to recover half the 'investment'.

To fully recover the investment and make profits, twenty or more people have to be hung into the double pyramid 'binary compensation' network marketing structure.

Under GoldQuest's complex reward scheme, the double pyramid structures have to grow in tandem, for upliners to get payments. If the structure does not balance, any rewards earned, remains with GoldQuest.

When the double pyramids stop growing (also known as the 'inevitable collapse' phase), after a country runs out of new recruits, 90 percent or more of the members in the downline ends up without any reward, except for an overpriced product, which is made up mostly of 'membership and administration maintenance' fees.

Last week, President Chandrika Kumaratunga issued a strong warning against pyramid scams, which are disguised as network marketing schemes.

"Normally, any 'Referral/Pyramid' scheme (i.e.a scheme which is heavily dependent on new participants to fund the earlier participants) would collapse when it reaches a point where further recruitment of participants is not feasible," President said in a statement.

"When a 'Pyramid' collapses, persons who have invested heavily in the scheme using perhaps borrowed money from financial institutions to join the scheme, with the intention of repaying such borrowings out of respected commission earnings, would suffer a loss and are likely to default on their borrowing, posing a danger to the entire financial system. Further, if the public joins these types of schemes which facilitate the acquisition of unproductive products such as gold coins, medallions, wrist-watches, etc, it would not help the country to increase the well-being of the people as is claimed by the promoters of such schemes."

The President also threatened disciplinary action against any government servants found promoting such schemes.

Based on Sunday Times FT-Lanka Business Report Special Assignment
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Balramman
05-09-2006, 10:51 AM
dear observer30, erubus,orange88,o nez and all others,

for your information.

since, for all of us it is a concern about what is this company(Questnet ) is doing and many others things. here it comes for you . take the chance to look and analyse yourself before complecating yourself and others further, since you got a chance to find out directly. you may have snacks or tea,may also see the directors. check out yourself. save your energy.

questnet is celebrating its 8th anniversary this month. since many of us have alot of worries about this company please take the oppo.. to attend the following session on
date : 8th sept. 2006
Time ; 7.30pm until midnight
venue : lagoon 2, 15th floor,
sunway lagoon resort hotel,
Bandar sunway, 56150 Petaling jaya.

you need to go thru somebody(networker) or the office. call at 03 7957 9788.

thank you.

with regards,
balarraaman


QuestNet / GoldQuest is and has always been a Product-Based Pyramid Scheme (PPS).


http://www.lankabusinessonline.com/fullstory.php?newsID=1520538787


Gold Revelation

12 September 2004 00:00:00

GoldQuest says its products are over priced to include membership maintenance fees


Contradicting all previous claims that GoldQuest products are priced at several times their real gold value because of a supposed 'numismatic' value, the company has revealed to the Court of Appeal that its products are over priced because it has membership maintenance fees incorporated into the sale price.

Pricing membership fees into a product is a characteristic of Product Based Pyramids (PPS).

Unlike old-style voucher based pyramids, where only membership fees are charged, in complex pyramid scams, also known as referral frauds, the membership fees are built into an overpriced product.

The revelation is contained in a covering letter accompanying customer details, after the Court of Appeal of Sri Lanka, ordered GoldQuest to supply the actual transaction values in an on-going under-valuation case.

"Please note that the sales price contained in the web-site consists not only of the product cost but also the administration and membership maintenance fees. Therefore the receipt for the product is higher than the invoice which accompanies the product," GoldQuest's Chief Legal Officer Daniel Porceddu wrote.

The products were bought by individual Sri Lankan customers via GoldQuest's, QuestNet website.

The top leaders who are alleged to have promoted the scheme in Sri Lanka have already been fined Rs. 88 mn by the Department of Exchange Control for foreign exchange fraud.

The local shipping agents of GoldQuest, SAR Shipping applied to the Court of Appeal to release a large consignment of gold products, which Customs seized earlier this year.

Customs have said the company declared false values to customs and suppressed the real remittance details in order to avoid paying taxes due to the Government of Sri Lanka.

The Court of Appeal ordered GoldQuest to release the list of buyers and the transaction prices after the State Counsel appearing for the Department of Customs told court that the master list must be available with the GoldQuest.

In their written answer to the action, Sri Lanka Customs have said that the GoldQuest's own documents (marked 1R5 and 1R5a); show that ultimate buyers of have paid a total of US$ 205,980 (approximately Rs. 20 mn) for the seized 316 GoldQuest products.

But GoldQuest had given a commercial invoice via their shipping agents for the customs declaration (CUSDEC), which showed a value of only US$ 38,998 (Rs. 3.8 mn).

Customs wrote in their answer to court that, "Â…as per the 1R15a the value of the relevant consignment is US$ 205,980 and whereas the Petitioner has falsely and/or fraudulently declared he FOB value of the said consignment as US$ 38,998 in the relevant CSDEC market 1R10," and that "accordingly the Petitioner made a false declaration in the said CUSDEC 1R10 and attempted to evade the payment of the full import duty payable on the relevant consignment."

In the Court of Appeal action the Petitioner, SAR Shipping is seeking a court order to release the goods in the interim, and to pay duty on a basis, where Gold Quest's products have been released previously.

However, Customs is alleging a conspiracy involving at least three government departments, to evade duty in the way GoldQuest were released earlier.

In a separate development, President Kumaratunga came out strongly against pyramid schemes.

The statement came days after GoldQuest started a fresh advertising campaign, touting the virtues of their get-rich-quick scheme, featuring a number of individuals who said they have received massive amounts of money.

The money for such individuals on the 'upline' come from the membership fees contained in the goods bought by new recruits in the 'downline'.

In GoldQuest's scheme, a person who buys the product, have to put at least ten people, in a similar plight to recover half the 'investment'.

To fully recover the investment and make profits, twenty or more people have to be hung into the double pyramid 'binary compensation' network marketing structure.

Under GoldQuest's complex reward scheme, the double pyramid structures have to grow in tandem, for upliners to get payments. If the structure does not balance, any rewards earned, remains with GoldQuest.

When the double pyramids stop growing (also known as the 'inevitable collapse' phase), after a country runs out of new recruits, 90 percent or more of the members in the downline ends up without any reward, except for an overpriced product, which is made up mostly of 'membership and administration maintenance' fees.

Last week, President Chandrika Kumaratunga issued a strong warning against pyramid scams, which are disguised as network marketing schemes.

"Normally, any 'Referral/Pyramid' scheme (i.e.a scheme which is heavily dependent on new participants to fund the earlier participants) would collapse when it reaches a point where further recruitment of participants is not feasible," President said in a statement.

"When a 'Pyramid' collapses, persons who have invested heavily in the scheme using perhaps borrowed money from financial institutions to join the scheme, with the intention of repaying such borrowings out of respected commission earnings, would suffer a loss and are likely to default on their borrowing, posing a danger to the entire financial system. Further, if the public joins these types of schemes which facilitate the acquisition of unproductive products such as gold coins, medallions, wrist-watches, etc, it would not help the country to increase the well-being of the people as is claimed by the promoters of such schemes."

The President also threatened disciplinary action against any government servants found promoting such schemes.

Based on Sunday Times FT-Lanka Business Report Special Assignment
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observer30
05-09-2006, 02:30 PM
dear observer30, erubus,orange88,o nez and all others,

for your information.

since, for all of us it is a concern about what is this company(Questnet ) is doing and many others things. here it comes for you . take the chance to look and analyse yourself before complecating yourself and others further, since you got a chance to find out directly. you may have snacks or tea,may also see the directors. check out yourself. save your energy.

questnet is celebrating its 8th anniversary this month. since many of us have alot of worries about this company please take the oppo.. to attend the following session on
date : 8th sept. 2006
Time ; 7.30pm until midnight
venue : lagoon 2, 15th floor,
sunway lagoon resort hotel,
Bandar sunway, 56150 Petaling jaya.

you need to go thru somebody(networker) or the office. call at 03 7957 9788.

thank you.

with regards,
balarraaman

I know they are having their anniversary dinner ay Sunway Lagoon resort hotel and also Ms. Donna and Mrs Eswaren are having a "I'm Alive" seminar at Palace of Golden Horse.

I am NOT talking about the COMPANY, but MOSTLY on the CONDUCT of NETWORKERS. I know ALL THESE FUNCTIONS and SEMINARS by Network Marketing company. I can show you even the BIGGEST EVENT of AMWAY and even LAMPE BERGER. And even showing you TOP LEADERS Luxurious car.

Questnet, Amway, LB, Omega Trend, Nuskin, etc.. all network marketing are legal business, with their own way of expanding their distribution network thru people. Sometimes, the INFORMATION given by Networkers and even the CONDUCT of networkers are misleading, and this not only create issue to society but also spoiling the company image.

Anyway, Balramman, thanks for your posts. Please say hi to your leaders in Malaysia (Mr. R, Mr. P, Mr. V). Some of them are really good people, they made money because they have the quality in leadership. But some of your leaders have attitude problems. P/s MONEY shouldn't be the selling points for your plan.

diablo
05-09-2006, 03:03 PM
Nobody has addressed my query,

http://www.networknewsagency.com/?nav=var&id=21

Go to the link. Is there an arrest warrant on the Directors?? Whats with all the controversy?

observer30
05-09-2006, 07:49 PM
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Website created on 2nd Aug. I click "ABOUT US" but it come out "OUR MISSION". I click contact info, only 3 email addresses came out.

It looks to me that this website is PURPOSELY created to ATTACK QUESTNET. I don't know who are they, whether they are local authorities, goverment agencies, or even MLM competitors!

I have no comment about what is reported in the website. If this information is real, they should come and arrest Mr. Vijay on 8th Sept at Sunway Lagoon Resort. If the information is FAKE, Questnet and directors are remain innocent to run his business freely. NO ONE IS GUILTY UNLESS IS PROVEN. I am NEUTRAL.

orange88
06-09-2006, 03:24 AM
Nobody has addressed my query,

http://www.networknewsagency.com/?nav=var&id=21

Go to the link. Is there an arrest warrant on the Directors?? Whats with all the controversy?

this is an interesting read. can some questnet person explain about it? or shall they just run from this doubt? :)

orchipalar
06-09-2006, 09:13 AM
Err...to do bizness should be ethical n free from controversies...

Ahem...otherwise it would be controversial...

n when it is controversial...the bizness is thus questionable...

diablo
06-09-2006, 04:02 PM
Err...to do bizness should be ethical n free from controversies...

Ahem...otherwise it would be controversial...

n when it is controversial...the bizness is thus questionable...

Thats the thing. To me no entity or person is completely free from controversy. Life is never smooth sailing but what is worrysome with this company is it seems to be embroiled in controversy regularly. I remember first time this company was in the news was when they got raided by the Ministry I believe in 99 or so. Fine.. maybe it's just a one-off hiccup but it seems to be at the wrong side of the law regularly around the world. No doubt they have the best paid bunch legal advisors to get the company out of trouble regularly.

I'm sure like any other MLM company if you apply the correct building principles you can make money here as well but given the company's state of integrity it would be difficult to place this company at the top of your MLM companies 'must join' list. Integrity is an important pre-requisite and should be at the top of your checklist. A company with a questionable marketing plan is no where near as damaging as a company with questionable integrity. What you join reflects on you. When you have a weak product or marketing plan you are looked at as just being naive but when your company has weak integrity you are looked at as a conman.

Balramman
06-09-2006, 04:45 PM
dear orange88, orchipalar,observer30,erubus and all.
hi all. good to contact you all again.

today i am running out of time. let me just join you all for a moment only.
as what observer 30 mentioned it is the attitude and conduct of the people , immaterial of what they are doing.i had sayed it earlier. to value a company truely there are many factors to consider.

refering to what diaplo's attached link, can you all re check again the website and then comment regarding the following, before i comment or even defend about questnet.
1. if it a truely operating agency may i know why only about questnet matters alone is displayed , not at all anything about other company or other matter?. are they specially appointed agent for questnet matter only?. please think about it.
2. also there are many website that has been posted thru internet about questnet ever since year 2000. but we are still here. i feel that it is what we are looking for. even lately there mr.v was with mr. punch gunalan the deputy for IBF and also our sports minister.refer to our daily news paper The star. Please analyse well .
3.i have a difference about orchipalar said. Most of the time even we are right , there are people cwho constantly defy you, even when you have all the good qualities and this is despite you being good to them. i am sure many of us go thru these daily. Therefore are we going to say , that these people are in contraversial therefore there should be something wrong. i also agreed , there should be something wrong true, please find out from whom that root of evil is/ it is not necessary from the person or company that was questioned onlt. it can also be from the people who are throwing the allegation also.
4.i am suprised especially about the comment from orange88,orchipalar because QI and questnet has come out on papers the latest was in business today also, however your focus is about the oooooold info of year 2000 and others. i know the matter in that Network news agecy was dated as may 2006 but any other info with regards to the website? please recheck.
5. if it true about all these matter as you all are saying , doubting, questioning and... why not let the apecific authority come to sunway lagoon on friday at 7.30pm onwards. the diectors will be there.

with regards,
balarraaman
with regards,
bal





Err...to do bizness should be ethical n free from controversies...

Ahem...otherwise it would be controversial...

n when it is controversial...the bizness is thus questionable...

Balramman
06-09-2006, 05:02 PM
For all,
please check this website where some details about QI the mother company of questnet, and mr.V is also mentioned . look under latest news, until unless they have changed the format.

http://www.internationalbadminton.org

with regards,
balarraaman

orange88
06-09-2006, 05:25 PM
Thats the thing. To me no entity or person is completely free from controversy. Life is never smooth sailing but what is worrysome with this company is it seems to be embroiled in controversy regularly. I remember first time this company was in the news was when they got raided by the Ministry I believe in 99 or so. Fine.. maybe it's just a one-off hiccup but it seems to be at the wrong side of the law regularly around the world. No doubt they have the best paid bunch legal advisors to get the company out of trouble regularly.

I'm sure like any other MLM company if you apply the correct building principles you can make money here as well but given the company's state of integrity it would be difficult to place this company at the top of your MLM companies 'must join' list. Integrity is an important pre-requisite and should be at the top of your checklist. A company with a questionable marketing plan is no where near as damaging as a company with questionable integrity. What you join reflects on you. When you have a weak product or marketing plan you are looked at as just being naive but when your company has weak integrity you are looked at as a conman.


i have to agree whole hearted on this. I've never seen such bad news on Maxis or YTL for that matter. Funny it only happens with Questnet. Besides you don't need much qualification to enter ey?

orchipalar
06-09-2006, 07:47 PM
For all,
please check this website where some details about QI the mother company of questnet, and mr.V is also mentioned . look under latest news, until unless they have changed the format.

http://www.internationalbadminton.org

with regards,
balarraamanErr...does anyone recall the so called self proclaimed the 3rd...or was it the 2nd richest person in the world...?

He had made some pledges in billions worth...to sponsor n support the gomen run cancer research society...n he even pledged to build a hospital for cancer patients for this country...

Yet nothing happens n no actions taken...from either him or the gomen...so far...

So more questions remain unanwered...more claims unsubstantiated...n more doubts raised...

Coming back to Quest International(QI Ltd)...for an example...would IBF question where n how...or the legitimacy of the bizness or money for the Quest International's sponsorships come from...?

Orchi had asked a simple question to begin with previously...are these companies in questioned related to one another...n how are they related...???

IF the so called TOP Owners/Directors or Leaders or marketeers are being accused of wrongfully conducting their bizness n misrepresenting the companies concerned...

why in heavens the companies do NOT come forward to clarify their stance over the controversies...?

at the same time...why are they NOT taking appropriate steps to stop those people from further tanishing their bizness to begin with...?

Why do they have to keep changing names...perhaps in attempts to disassociate themselves from the previously implicated parties...namely GoldQuest...?

Latest News?...how about this latest one ...? (http://www.postcourier.com.pg/20060814/news03.htm) or This latest news from Papua New Guinea...PNG. (http://www.thenational.com.pg/081406/nation1.htm)

This...more controversies of fraud...dated TODAY! (http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?edition_id=10&categ_id=3&article_id=19789)

observer30
07-09-2006, 04:13 PM
IF the so called TOP Owners/Directors or Leaders or marketeers are being accused of wrongfully conducting their bizness n misrepresenting the companies concerned...

why in heavens the companies do NOT come forward to clarify their stance over the controversies...?

at the same time...why are they NOT taking appropriate steps to stop those people from further tanishing their bizness to begin with...?



Networkers created the problems, and directors solved it. I knew that one of their directors in jailed for some months in Nepal for one of the issue. Jailed not because of wrongful but waiting for trial. And she is NOT guilty.
Conducts of networkers are very crucial.. most are due to their GREED, they never explain the plan properly, causing a big misunderstanding from most... which is SCAM. Eg. The plan is binary, and every one need to balance their both legs for commission. But some jokers never inform the plan properly, ALL they said "JOIN and YOU WILL BE RICH... You can drive BMW, you can achieve your DREAMS, don't think much, JUST JOIN!"

Steps for prevention? Trainings are very important to ensure their new downlines not to talk to people but going thru some trainings (Basic).. this training are conducted in Amcorp Mall, some at home, or food outlets.




Why do they have to keep changing names...perhaps in attempts to disassociate themselves from the previously implicated parties...namely GoldQuest...?



Goldquest is one of subsidiaries company of QI.

There are so many news.... I just remain neutral for both side of news.
QN supporters will give a thousands good news about QI, and QN competitors will give a thousands bad news about QI.

As Malaysian, we follow our country rules... if NO COURT order to shut Questnet, they are definitely still legal. We don't need to bother other countries. FYI, CHINA still control very tight about NM operation. Questnet is definitely NOT ABLE TO penetrate China yet, until they government approved. If you fly to China to network there, you will be caught and jailed. But no problem here. We should only SHOW Malaysia related news, not from Iran, SriLankan, Philippines, Nepal, China, etc.

Regarding the information from networkagency, if directors are in wanted list, they should go and inform Interpol Police to issue to warrant to arrest them. They will be at Sunway Lagoon Resort tomorrow 8th August.

We have to talk based on Facts, not from opinions. I don't care about the news about QI dealing business with IBF, UN, F1 or whatever.. business is business. They are dealing with endorsement of products, not a shareholder of a company. But many networkers misinterpreted because they feel by associating with big organisation will increase their prospect's believe and increase the sign up rate. This may not be true.

orchipalar
10-09-2006, 06:40 AM
Goldquest is one of subsidiaries company of QI.

As Malaysian, we follow our country rules... if NO COURT order to shut Questnet, they are definitely still legal. We don't need to bother other countries.

But no problem here. We should only SHOW Malaysia related news, not from Iran, SriLankan, Philippines, Nepal, China, etc.Err...who is We...are you a part of it too?

But here's again from Orchi's opinion...when something is bad happening elsewhere...which may have effects relating to the same bizness...people ought to know about it...n make up their own minds...

Regarding the information from networkagency, if directors are in wanted list, they should go and inform Interpol Police to issue to warrant to arrest them. They will be at Sunway Lagoon Resort tomorrow 8th August.Malaysia has probably 1,000,001 rules...including speeding...but until Orchi is caught speeding 250km/h along an expressway after having drank a gallon of toddy...Orchi's action is definitely still legal...?

Another example...lets say certain leaders or politicians are involved in corrupted deals...but they are not reported or caught yet...are you suggesting that what they do is definitely legal...?

observer30
10-09-2006, 01:54 PM
Err...who is We...are you a part of it too?



Well, we are in the discussion and the topic is about Questnet. There shouldn't be any personal attack or grouping between anti-QN and pro-QN.
"We" is what I am referring to Malaysian.




Malaysia has probably 1,000,001 rules...including speeding...but until Orchi is caught speeding 250km/h along an expressway after having drank a gallon of toddy...Orchi's action is definitely still legal...?

Another example...lets say certain leaders or politicians are involved in corrupted deals...but they are not reported or caught yet...are you suggesting that what they do is definitely legal...?

NO ONE IS GUILTY UNLESS IT'S PROVEN. Only Judges based on Law in Malaysia can determine whether a company is legal or not with enough evidence.

You may says that Malaysia is a un-strict country, am I right? You mean... Corrupted people are easily run away from Law/Legal Actions? :confused:
Well, let's wait our neighbour country to proof Questnet is illegal first. Don't tell me Singapore Government is un-strict as well. LoL

I am here not to defend Questnet or attack Questnet.. When we say something, make sure we have the PROOF! Opinions are CHEAP! Ah Beng and Ah Lian can talk about the world like politicians... come on.. if you have PROOF, report to the authorities... :D lol

orchipalar
10-09-2006, 02:11 PM
Networkers created the problems, and directors solved it. I knew that one of their directors in jailed for some months in Nepal for one of the issue. Jailed not because of wrongful but waiting for trial. And she is NOT guilty.Err...how do you know that...is there any proof...? LOL...:D

or was it just your opinion on the matter...

IF so...what's your opinion or proof of the following matters...?

http://www.networknewsagency.com/?nav=var&id=21


this is an interesting read. can some questnet person explain about it? or shall they just run from this doubt?Err...IF you think that article is baseless...not true...or malicious...why has QI Ltd...or Questnet...or GoldQuest...or Mr. Vijayeswaran(Mr. V?) himself...NOT willing to file charges to shut the website down...or rebut ALL the controversial NEWS articles from the other 3rd world developing countries...where QI Ltd or Questnet...or GoldQuest seem to be active in...?

orchipalar
10-09-2006, 02:49 PM
NO ONE IS GUILTY UNLESS IT'S PROVEN. Only Judges based on Law in Malaysia can determine whether a company is legal or not with enough evidence.Err precisely...NOT yet doesn't mean that it could be legitimate...or escape the law forever...LOL:D

I am here not to defend Questnet or attack Questnet.. When we say something, make sure we have the PROOF! Opinions are CHEAP! Ah Beng and Ah Lian can talk about the world like politicians... come on.. if you have PROOF, report to the authorities... :D lolErr precisely also...the same goes with everyone...n that of your opinions too...

So do make sure that you stick to it...LOL:D

orchipalar
10-09-2006, 03:28 PM
Goldquest is one of subsidiaries company of QI.

There are so many news.... I just remain neutral for both side of news.
QN supporters will give a thousands good news about QI, and QN competitors will give a thousands bad news about QI.

As Malaysian, we follow our country rules... if NO COURT order to shut Questnet, they are definitely still legal.
I am here not to defend Questnet or attack Questnet.. When we say something, make sure we have the PROOF! Opinions are CHEAP! Ah Beng and Ah Lian can talk about the world like politicians... come on.. if you have PROOF, report to the authorities... lol
But no problem here. We should only SHOW Malaysia related news, not from Iran, SriLankan, Philippines, Nepal, China, etcErr...your opinions may have all been so defensive of GoldQuest or QuestNet...or QI Ltd's NEGATIVE publicities which have been widely reported in many 3rd world developing countries where they are active...

Or were those repeated denials or assurance...just being your opinions only...? LOL:D

"How will I face my colleagues and friends whom I persuaded to invest in the firm if this scheme collapses, as I hear it has in other countries?"

"We have identified about 4,000 people who have violated the law to subscribe to the high risk reward scheme similar to pyramids, to the value of US $7 million. They will receive letters asking for explanations on suspicious transactions."

"Right now we do not have laws to keep a tab on pyramid schemes. All we have are laws covering deposit taking but they are inadequate to counter such schemes."

"We are in the process of drafting anti-pyramid laws and these will be tabled soon."

"Pyramid frauds spread quickly in emerging markets because these markets do not have effective laws to counter them."

"The biggest tragedy is for ordinary people who get their friends and relations to spend their savings or borrow money to invest. When the pyramids collapse they cannot face those they brought on board and this has already begun happening here."

http://southasia.oneworld.net/article/view/89307/1/92

Err here it goes again...when you may have proof that the above article reported by the Sri Lankan authorities could be unfounded...biased or NOT true...or malicious... why has GoldQuest...or QuestNet...or QI Ltd...NOT done anything to rebut the many reported News articles....???

n since you may obviouly be PRO GoldQuest or QuestNet...or QI Ltd...to begin with...would you want to further elaborate on the issues...with some proofs which you may have...or with your opinions...perhaps?

orchipalar
10-09-2006, 04:28 PM
Sun, 10 September 2006 13:35:48
LBO >> Law

Arrest Quest
27 April 2006 14:58:20

Sri Lanka arrest GoldQuest upliners under anti-pyramiding statute

Apr. 27 (LBO) – Seven persons who were caught promoting the GoldQuest network marketing scheme have been arrested in southern Sri Lanka, police said.

The seven who were having a GoldQuest promotional scheme were arrested under the new anti-pyamiding provisions of the Banking Act, police in the town of Karandeniya in the southern provincial, Galle district said.

http://www.lankabusinessonline.com/fullstory.php?newsID=1161352144&no_view=1&SEARCH_TERM=11

Err...there were more arrests made by the Sri Lankan authorities...after they have tighten up with new anti-pyramiding provisions of their Banking Act...

thkhong
10-09-2006, 06:10 PM
I remember a couple of years ago, I was approached by this company. it is based in Singapore but originate from HK.Beware because the Malaysian Govt. actually banned them although they fought their case in the Malaysian Courts. if I remember they lost the case bec. the Govt. still deemed them as MLM.

Another thing. They said if you buy the coin they will send you by courier.So I ask them is it legal to send gold into the country without any permits. Their reply was nobody knows.So be very careful. Yes they also say we can make fantastic profits if we introduce anuther ...("fool") to buy their coin.

Too dangerous in my opinion. They even showed me the coin and it is genuine but you are paying a premium.No law says they cannot sell the coin at a higher price. Willing seller and willing buyer.So if you cannot get another person to buy you land up with paying a high price.

Dont be gullible. Nothing is so simple nowadays!

observer30
10-09-2006, 09:50 PM
Orchipalar, it seems like you don't know what you are talking about! :D lol... I am not here to defend Quesnet/Goldquest. You can head straight to their office in Amcorp Mall Level 13, bring along few police officers, talk to their country managers and ask them to close their shop. I am sure Mr. Vijay is in Malaysia. Catch him if you can!! And No news that Mr. V being arrested here even huge publicity that he was in Sunway and Golden Palace. too bad! :D

If QUESTNET is illegal, would:-
a) Organisations like United Nation, Fifa, IBF, Olympic Council, F1 would like to work with illegal company?
b) Governments i.e. Singapore Government allows pyramid scheme company operates in their country for 8 years? Why would President of Thailand hand shaking with Mr. Vijay, and also our Prime Minister (Abdullah Badawi) was seen sitting side by side with Mr. Vijay in the show "Disney on Ice" last year.
c) Until today, Questnet office still around with EMPLOYEES working... Don't they think they are in risk working with illegal company?
d) JR Mayer Mint, 1871 partner with Questnet in minting numismatic products for Questnet for distribution
e) Case study by Microsoft
f) Brazil Team having a round table dinner with all Questnet directors before the FIFA 2006 World Cup games.
g) Our badminton hero, Wong Choon Hann, receiving medals from Mr. Vijay during the Burhimham Badminton championship. Partnership with Punch Gunalan and Rudy Hartono?

If Orchipalar is RIGHT, then many Chief Executives, Sportmans, Managers, Prime Ministers, Governments, Charity Organisation, who have been dealing with Questnet must be very "blind hearted" or I say ignorance to allow themselves associate with illegal company.... I think we have a hero here in USJ community!! :D You catch the thieve whereby a thousand don't.

Questnet have network around the world in 160+ countries with 1.6 million customers. Only a handful countries are getting legal issue. How about country like HK, SIngapore, Indonesia, Thailand, Brunei, UK, Brazil, PNG, Arab Saudi, etc. ? Countries involved were Nepal, Philippines, Sri Lanka, Iran.

Can you stop people purchase online products? If yes, most online shops have to close including amazon and ebay.

Can you stop people give or receive referral commissions? If yes, all MLM, promoters, sales person are gone... back to 9 to 5 office job.

Many BIG companies have stucked in legal issues before i.e. Microsoft.... even Sony... involving MILLIONS in compensation... Are they illegal? No... Giant MLM company like Amway, involved in series of court case, are they close shop? No.... EVEN they have court case, doesn't mean they are illegal too!

Boy, you can't stop Questnet, a billiondollar company... stop arguing issue.... If you like their commission, join them... if don't, ignore them!

I know QN networker are smart, even IF Malaysia banned Questnet in Malaysia, they are international company, and they can still operate their business in other countries, with commission and product send to another country.

EQUIP YOURSELF WITH KNOWLEDGE!!! STOP BEING AH BENG OR AH LIAN !!!

I am a businessman, retails shops (2x) also involvement in MLM company with RM15,000 income per month. I know this industry very well. My best friend is top leader in Questnet. My another best friend is also top leader in Amway. I am no against about the company... But I know why Questnet name is tarnished... all because of unethical networkers who are too ignorance in getting proper trainings.

REMEMBER, NETWORK MARKETING IS A LEGAL BUSINESS IN THE WORLD (EXCEPT A FEW COUNTRIES ESP CHINA). THIS INDUSTRY CONTRIBUTES A BIG PORTION TO COUNTRY ECONOMY AS WELL. AND IT'S ALSO VERY EASY TO BE MISUNDERSTOOD AS PYRAMID SCHEME!

Congratulations, you just learn something new today. And this is FREE. I will not respond to any silly posting here.

orchipalar
10-09-2006, 10:38 PM
If QUESTNET is illegal, would:-
a) Organisations like United Nation, Fifa, IBF, Olympic Council, F1 would like to work with illegal company?
b) Governments i.e. Singapore Government allows pyramid scheme company operates in their country for 8 years? Why would President of Thailand hand shaking with Mr. Vijay, and also our Prime Minister (Abdullah Badawi) was seen sitting side by side with Mr. Vijay in the show "Disney on Ice" last year.
c) Until today, Questnet office still around with EMPLOYEES working... Don't they think they are in risk working with illegal company?
d) JR Mayer Mint, 1871 partner with Questnet in minting numismatic products for Questnet for distribution
e) Case study by Microsoft
f) Brazil Team having a round table dinner with all Questnet directors before the FIFA 2006 World Cup games.
g) Our badminton hero, Wong Choon Hann, receiving medals from Mr. Vijay during the Burhimham Badminton championship. Partnership with Punch Gunalan and Rudy Hartono?Err...ok fair enough...you may not be with them...but sure looks like you could be a diehard fan of theirs...LOL:D

Ahem...so far Orchi never mentioned that those companies are illegal or illegitimate...why you seem to be evading the relevant questions raised about their controversies...n defending them as hard as you have been in here since...?

a. you have heard of Enron...right? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enron)...so what happened now...?

b. how sure are you that those companies of yours...were registered as Pyramid Scheme companies in Singapore and Malaysia...? Where are the proofs...?

or have those been registered as MLM...or direct marketing or Network Marketing companies...instead?

Nothing illegal with that right...those companies are operating without any problem since...right?...but with the exceptions of those few countries where these biznesses are either banned...or under investigations...right?

Btw...remember Tan Sri Eric Chia...? He was seen with the previous PM and many renown world leaders too...doing more than handshaking them n sitting besides them...or what? Isn't he on trial now...?

now...why is that Mr. Vijay(your friend?) wanted in Hong Kong...or is THAT piece of news...FALSE? IF SO...do you have proof of that...?

c. irrelevant arguements...

d. have you got proof to showcase what you are claiming...Even so...there is NOTHING wrong with selling endorsed products or services at HIGHER margins to their customers...right?

Willing seller...willing buyer basis...nothing wrong with it...

SO the buyers(or the potential customers) could actually have a choice to exercise their better discretion...before they wanna make up their minds...right?

e. what case study by Microsoft....those companies use Microsoft softwares to access www...or what?

f. n g. For donkey numbers of decades...cigarette companies have been sponsoring thousands of WORLDWIDE sports n INTERNATIONAL games events...did you EVER think that those whom had benefitted with their sponsorships...ever considered that smoking causes the deadly cancer...certainly NOT right???...LOL:D

I am a businessman, retails shops (2x) also involvement in MLM company with RM15,000 income per month. I know this industry very well. My best friend is top leader in Questnet. My another best friend is also top leader in Amway. I am no against about the company... But I know why Questnet name is tarnished... all because of unethical networkers who are too ignorance in getting proper trainings.

Congratulations, you just learn something new today. And this is FREE. I will not respond to any silly posting here.Err...the UNEDUCATED pasar malam...n petty traders like Orchi...probably earns MORE than you do...or what's your point...???...LOL:D

observer30
10-09-2006, 11:45 PM
Haha... Questnet doesn't belongs to me or you. If I continue, this thread is neverending. Since Orchi is tycoon pasar malam seller happy with his life, better enjoy your pasar malam scene... pray for no rain.. LoL :D Good Night.... Questnet is waiting for you to sue... I hope to see the news in local newspaper "ORCHI DESTROYED A BILLION DOLLAR COMPANY!" GOOD LUCK MAN!! :D

orchipalar
11-09-2006, 12:33 PM
CBI:
GoldQuest
Activities
Illegal

TEHRAN, May 25--Governor of the Central Bank of Iran
(CBI) said here on Wednesday that the activities of
GoldQuest and EBL companies in Iran are illegal and
against Islamic laws.
Ebrahim Sheibani told Fars news agency that the CBI has
repeatedly announced that these companies cannot operate
in Iran. "I personally wrote to several sources of emulation
and asked them to announce that these companies are doing
illegal activities here," he added without specifying whether
he received any response or not.
The CBI governor said the bank has issued several communiqués
against the activities of such companies in Iran
and they have been aired on the broadcast media.
Also speaking to Fars news agency a lawmaker said on
Wednesday that the Parliament is determined to prohibit the
activities of companies operating like GoldQuest.
Seyyed Mahmoud Abtahi said 50 lawmakers are planning
to table the motion.
The Central Headquarters for Fighting Smuggling of
Goods and Foreign Currency spokesman said earlier that
two consignments of Goldquest gifts have been seized
recently.
Mohsen Bahrami told reporters that no official organization
has authorized its activities in Iran, saying GoldQuest
gifts are regarded as contraband.

http://www.iran-daily.com/1384/2284/pdf/i3.pdf

Err...this piece of news should be sufficient to substantiate that the GoldQuest n its activities in IRAN...is deemed to be illegal since last year...

orange88
11-09-2006, 01:06 PM
CBI:
GoldQuest
Activities
Illegal

TEHRAN, May 25--Governor of the Central Bank of Iran
(CBI) said here on Wednesday that the activities of
GoldQuest and EBL companies in Iran are illegal and
against Islamic laws.
Ebrahim Sheibani told Fars news agency that the CBI has
repeatedly announced that these companies cannot operate
in Iran. "I personally wrote to several sources of emulation
and asked them to announce that these companies are doing
illegal activities here," he added without specifying whether
he received any response or not.
The CBI governor said the bank has issued several communiqués
against the activities of such companies in Iran
and they have been aired on the broadcast media.
Also speaking to Fars news agency a lawmaker said on
Wednesday that the Parliament is determined to prohibit the
activities of companies operating like GoldQuest.
Seyyed Mahmoud Abtahi said 50 lawmakers are planning
to table the motion.
The Central Headquarters for Fighting Smuggling of
Goods and Foreign Currency spokesman said earlier that
two consignments of Goldquest gifts have been seized
recently.
Mohsen Bahrami told reporters that no official organization
has authorized its activities in Iran, saying GoldQuest
gifts are regarded as contraband.

http://www.iran-daily.com/1384/2284/pdf/i3.pdf

Err...this piece of news should be sufficient to substantiate that the GoldQuest n its activities in IRAN...is deemed to be illegal since last year...


lets just say observer should be more observant...

orchipalar
11-09-2006, 02:12 PM
If QUESTNET is illegal, would:-
...e) Case study by MicrosoftErr...the case study was probably done by Microsoft...because GoldQuest...QuestNet or QI Ltd...uses "MS Window Server 2003"...BIG deal???...LOL:D

MS website trumpets 'pyramid' company

Quest for gold turns nasty
By John Oates

Published Tuesday 26th July 2005 08:47 GMT

A case study on Microsoft.com is unwittingly promoting a company which has been accused of operating a pyramid scheme targetting people in south-east Asia and Africa.

This (http://www.microsoft.com/resources/casestudies/CaseStudy.asp?CaseStudyID=14230) page on Microsoft's website explains how Hong Kong-based GoldQuest International Ltd made big savings by moving to Windows Server 2003. The page proudly trumpets GoldQuest's achievements and "500,000 active customers in 120 countries".

"GoldQuest has grown into a ecommerce powerhouse, generating 70 per cent of its $200m annual turnover online," the page gushes. Microsoft claims it has saved the company $82,000 a year in IT costs and helped it increase revenue by $10m a year.

The only trouble is, GoldQuest has been accused of operating a form of pyramid-scheme targetting gullible folk in some of the world's poorest countries.

The company, based in Hong Kong, sells "commemorative" gold and silver coins. But people are encouraged to gain commission by getting more people to sign up. If you can sell coins to two other people, who in turn must recruit two more, then you start receiving commission.

A spokesperson for the Central Bank of Sri Lanka's legal department told The Register that it was investigating GoldQuest with the assistance of the police.

A campaigner in Sri Lanka told us: "It's a nasty scheme. I first heard about it in 2003 and even quite educated people have fallen for it." He explained that the company had also targetted Ethiopia, Sudan and Tanzania.

A spokeswoman for Microsoft told us that GoldQuest is "managed by a partner" and the case study was prepared by a partner for the launch of Windows Server 2003.

We asked GoldQuest for comment, but it did not return our calls.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/07/26/microsoft_trumpets_pyramid/

orchipalar
11-09-2006, 02:43 PM
Questnet have network around the world in 160+ countries with 1.6 million customers. Only a handful countries are getting legal issue. How about country like HK, SIngapore, Indonesia, Thailand, Brunei, UK, Brazil, PNG, Arab Saudi, etc. ? Countries involved were Nepal, Philippines, Sri Lanka, Iran.

Boy, you can't stop Questnet, a billiondollar company... stop arguing issue.... If you like their commission, join them... if don't, ignore them!

I know QN networker are smart, even IF Malaysia banned Questnet in Malaysia, they are international company, and they can still operate their business in other countries, with commission and product send to another country.

EQUIP YOURSELF WITH KNOWLEDGE!!! STOP BEING AH BENG OR AH LIAN !!!Err YES!...investors should be well equipped with knowledge before they take any plunge into this sort of the controversial financial investment operated namely by GoldQuest...QuestNet or QI Ltd...which is widely being accused of being a 'pyramid' scheme companies...in many countries.

The list of countries now includes...India n PNG...besides Iran...Sri Lanka...HongKong...Philippines...n Nepal...so far.

Southern States - Tamil Nadu-Chennai

Finance company sealed, bank accounts frozen

By K. Manikandan

CHENNAI AUG. 21. With the arrest of Goldquest officials in Chennai, where the company's India headquarters is located, police claimed to have exposed yet another alleged money circulation racket. Over 50 members have filed complaints stating that the company owed around Rs 12 lakhs to them.

The arrested persons include Pushpam, a Malaysian citizen of Indian origin and company managing director, Joseph Augustine, accounts executive, and Pushpendra Kumar Shukla, public relations officer.

They were produced before Arul Raj, additional chief metropolitan magistrate at Egmore, who remanded them to judicial custody till August 27, according to an Inspector of the Central Crime Branch investigating the case.

The company office, located on the ninth floor of the Rain Tree complex on McNichols Road in Chetpet was `sealed' and its bank accounts frozen.

The CCB sources said cases were registered in April this year and investigations began following a complaint from an advocate, Chandrasekhar. He said he paid Rs 16,800 for purchasing a gold coin described as a collector's item by the company. According to him, he was informed that the coin would be handed over to him only if he introduced 10 more people to the company. As he was unable to bring 10 people into the network, the coin was not handed over nor was the cash returned to him.

The Inspector said though they received complaints from more than 50 people, they acted on the one lodged by Chandrashekar and added that complaints from the rest would also be amalgamated.

The complainants alleged that they paid sums ranging between Rs 16,800 and Rs 43,000, but neither did they receive the gold coin nor the cash return to them. The CCB personnel claimed that the arrests exposed a scam to the tune of around Rs 12 lakhs. They said a search was on for Vijay Eswaran and Jeevan Muktanandam who were reported to be in Malaysia.

http://www.hinduonnet.com/2003/08/22/stories/2003082210240300.htm

observer30
11-09-2006, 07:15 PM
The CCB sources said cases were registered in April this year and investigations began following a complaint from an advocate, Chandrasekhar. He said he paid Rs 16,800 for purchasing a gold coin described as a collector's item by the company. According to him, he was informed that the coin would be handed over to him only if he introduced 10 more people to the company. As he was unable to bring 10 people into the network, the coin was not handed over nor was the cash returned to him.


This is straight to networker's problems without a proper education of the binary plan. Goldquest was once introduced a partial payment plan, which means buyer pays a portion of the price of products, and the balance can be deducted by commission which is 5L/5R=US$400.

This is 2003 news and the plan is no longer applicable! So did you able to follow up the news in India??? :D LOL... Most of the news is like got head but no tail.... Reporters are like that, never follow up on their news they have started off.

They have 4 offices in India.
http://www.quest.net/DesktopDefault.aspx?Myurl=p_default&tabindex=0&tabid=10&subtabid=24&CatID=&NewsType=



GoldQuest International Pvt Ltd.

India - Chennai
“The Rain Tree Place”
9th & 10th Floor, B-Wing
#7 Mc Nichols Road, Chetpet
Chennai, India 600 031
Phone: +91-44 –2836 5071 / 2836 2157 / 2836 2992
Fax: +91- 44 – 2836 3281

India - Mumbai
# 871, Solitaire Corporate Park
Building No. 8, H Wing, 7th Floor
167, Guru Har Govindji Marg, Chakala
Andheri (East), Mumbai
India – 400 021
Phone: +91-22-28374084…6
Fax: +91-22-28374087

Network Support Head : Mangala Venkat
E-mail : mangalavenkat@questnet-india.com

India - Bangalore
# 303, Prestige Centre Point
3rd Floor, Cunningham Road
Bangalore - 560 052
Phone:+91-80-22282407
Fax: +91-80-22370393

India - Hyderabad
#7, Surya Towers
F-Block, S.P Road
Secunderabad, India 500 003
Phone: +91-40-55337891 / 55337892 / 55337893
Fax: +91-40-55337894


Give a call and ask "WHY YOU STILL OPEN?" :D LoL

anyway, nice try Orchi....
If you want to hear some good news.. I intro my Questnet friend, he will bring a folder full with news articles, journals, magazines, all about positive news of Questnet. Or go to their office at amcorp mall level 13 and get their staff answering you...

POSTING NEGATIVES NEWS FROM ALL OVER WEBSITE DOESN'T BRING IMPACT TO DEVELOPMENT OF QUESTNET BUSINESS!! THOSE WEBSITES ARE WELL-KNOWN AND SEARCHABLE IN GOOGLE (EVERYONE KNOWS), AND I READ IT 2-3 YEARS AGO!! BUT NEVERTHELESS, QUESTNET STILL BOOMING AND GETTING STRONGER! :D :D LOL

orchipalar
11-09-2006, 09:41 PM
The pyramid scheme also triggers many legal questions. According to the American federal trade commission, a legitimate MLM has actual products that are always available and sold whenever a commission is received. Moreover, it should never have an inflated price. In addition, if the people who purchase the product are only within the network, it will be a justification that the company is running an illegal pyramid scheme.

Ato Shewalem Menji at the national lottery administration said that all the opposing features from the legal MLM has forced the administration to label goldquest as an illegal business in Ethiopia while the administration is still in no way against legal MLM. "In the pyramid scheme, there is always uncertainty that the commission might not be earned. So there is only a probability of getting money which makes it some what similar with chance. And according to the law of the country, it is only the National Lottery Administration that has the autonomy to reward money that comes by chance," he said. The other reason national lottery resisted to legalize goldquest is because the watches are sold with an inflated price. "Watches that are worth 100 dollars are sold for 570 dollars. Reaping 470 dollars under the pretext of giving commission is simply beyond unfair," he added.
Birhanu Aregay an economist by profession, calls the practice a scam. "With our country's economic status people aren't tempted to buy over- priced watches. I know that everybody is in it for the commission which totally fails it as a legitimate MLM, in addition to the fact that the commodity can no more enter the country legally," he said.

http://www.ethiopianreporter.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=3461

Err...the above news article is sufficient to label GoldQuest...to be a 'pyramid' scheme company...n its bizness n products to be illegal in Ethiopia...

orchipalar
11-09-2006, 09:49 PM
PNG OFFICIALS IMPLICATED IN PYRAMID SCHEME

PORT MORESBY, Papua New Guinea (PNG Post Courier, August 14) – The Morobe administration has moved swiftly to rid the Lae City Council of a pyramid scheme known as Questnet International.

http://pidp.eastwestcenter.org/pireport/2006/August/08-15-01.htm

Err...more controversies arising from GoldQuest...Questnet International or QI Ltd companies' activities...in Papua New Guinea...this time.

kress
11-09-2006, 09:59 PM
no point arguing with a zealot orchi.. these are the people who close their eyes when the sun rises and keep claiming that there is no sun....

o_nez
11-09-2006, 10:04 PM
Thanks for your encouragement observer30!!




Goldquest is one of subsidiaries company of QI.

There are so many news.... I just remain neutral for both side of news.
QN supporters will give a thousands good news about QI, and QN competitors will give a thousands bad news about QI.

As Malaysian, we follow our country rules... if NO COURT order to shut Questnet, they are definitely still legal. We don't need to bother other countries. FYI, CHINA still control very tight about NM operation. Questnet is definitely NOT ABLE TO penetrate China yet, until they government approved. If you fly to China to network there, you will be caught and jailed. But no problem here. We should only SHOW Malaysia related news, not from Iran, SriLankan, Philippines, Nepal, China, etc.
For your reference, observer30, GoldQuest / QI / QuestNet is a Malaysia company.

TheStar Online Saturday August 12, 2006
http://thestar.com.my/sports/story.asp?file=/2006/8/12/sports/15126438

Malaysia bank on Chong Wei to win world title


...After becoming the first Malaysian-based company to become the title sponsors for the world meet, QI Ltd group managing director Vijay Eswaran hoped that the agonising wait for a world title would come to an end.

“QI Ltd (a multinational conglomerate company) were also the title sponsors for the world meet in 2003 when we were based in Hong Kong. Then, Wong Choong Hann was the men's singles runner-up,” said Vijay.

“Now, we are based in Malaysia. Hopefully, a Malaysian will go one step better.”...

Therefore, all the reports regarding GoldQuest / QI / QuestNet, as well as its reported business practices and questionable activites, are completely relevant for discussion in this forum because these reports involve a Malaysia company, which directly reflect on Malaysia and our national image & business reputation.

observer30
11-09-2006, 10:24 PM
Thanks for your encouragement observer30!!


For your reference, observer30, GoldQuest / QI / QuestNet is a Malaysia company.

TheStar Online Saturday August 12, 2006
http://thestar.com.my/sports/story.asp?file=/2006/8/12/sports/15126438

Malaysia bank on Chong Wei to win world title


...After becoming the first Malaysian-based company to become the title sponsors for the world meet, QI Ltd group managing director Vijay Eswaran hoped that the agonising wait for a world title would come to an end.

“QI Ltd (a multinational conglomerate company) were also the title sponsors for the world meet in 2003 when we were based in Hong Kong. Then, Wong Choong Hann was the men's singles runner-up,” said Vijay.

“Now, we are based in Malaysia. Hopefully, a Malaysian will go one step better.”...

Therefore, all the reports regarding GoldQuest / QI / QuestNet, as well as its reported business practices and questionable activites, are completely relevant for discussion in this forum because these reports involve a Malaysia company, which directly reflect on Malaysia and our national image & business reputation.

Wow... At last, even I never thought of, Mr. Vijay Eswaran (Malaysian) decided to bring back his multinational business (QI LTD) back to Malaysia. Thanks O_Nez.
Hey, eventhough I am not a Questnet member, but don't you think Malaysian should proud of to have such successful entreprenuer in Network Marketing?? The more news about Quest, the more I believe the business is moving FAST!!!.. otherwise if business is slow and quiet, there will have no such controversy to talk about! LOL :D

For everyone knowledge, Goldquest started in Malaysia some time around 1999... and Feb 2000, there is a BIG GIANT NEGATIVE PUBLICITY OF GOLDQUEST, BIG FRONT PAGE in theSTAR newspaper... 99% people gave up GOLDQUEST, 20 FEB 2000, a smaller section shows GOLDQUEST IS LEGAL but nobody notice or some don't even come back ! Guess what, after all bad news, good news come and never stop until today! :D

o_nez
11-09-2006, 10:55 PM
Additional news reports on the "harm" being done by the the GoldQuest / QI / QuestNet Pyramid Scheme.

Ethiopian Reporter
http://www.ethiopianreporter.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2906

Goldquest drains Ethiopia's foreign currency reserve
Net loss of 4.1 million dollars registered


At a panel discussion held this week by second year M.A. students of the economics department of the Addis Ababa University regarding network marketing, particularly Goldquest's impact on the Ethiopian economy, it was revealed that until August 2005, 4.8 million dollars of foreign currency was taken out of the country for this purpose from the estimated 8,000 members in Ethiopia while the inflow had only been 774,000 US dollars.

The study that presented this figure was conducted by Ato Tewodros Mekonnen and Gerawork Getachew, employees of the National Bank of Ethiopia (NBE)...
Read More... (http://www.ethiopianreporter.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2906)

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Ethiopian Reporter
http://www.ethiopianreporter.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=3461

The quest for the money or the gold?!


There is this new joke in town that more or less sums up the hottest topic (if not in Ethiopia) at least in Addis. In the Joke, out of five tables within any bar or restaurant, the discussion at least in three of them will definitely be about the recent political unrest in the country while the rest will be occupied by talks of goldquest.

Goldquest, which is also known as Questnet, has become this popular and equally controversial. In fact, its popularity in this country is to the extent that it is all, most people know with the mentioning of Network marketing. Indeed, it is a global network marketing company that is engaged in selling coins and watches that are said to have numismatic value. However, there are many that argue that since it follows this scheme known as pyramid that is dubbed illegitimate in its nature, there is a fine line separating it from network marking or multilevel marketing (MLM)...
Read More... (http://www.ethiopianreporter.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=3461)


Agence France-Presse (AFP)
http://asia.news.yahoo.com/051103/afp/051103071000hightech.html

Iran wages war on Hong Kong 'scam'

"Revised" Headline
Iran wages war on Malaysia 'scam'



TEHRAN (AFP) - An online shopping craze sweeping Iran may look like harmless coin collecting but, to the Islamic republic's judiciary, GoldQuest is a dangerous pyramid scam that has to be shut down.

Fearing uncontrollable hard currency outflow and armed with what it says are thousands of complaints from irate customers, Iran has banned the Hong Kong-based firm from operating here and is putting its sales representatives behind bars.

"People are complaining of fraud, because the coins are worth just one third of their price," case prosecutor Hamid Reza Taefi told AFP. "They have been manipulated and cheated out of their money. It's a scam."...

...Speaking to AFP in Hong Kong, GoldQuest director for finance and corporate strategy Richard Zinkiewicz insists his company is merely a "multi-level marketing business".

"Our business model has been questioned by many countries but we have a clean bill of health," he asserted, explaining the company has about 1.4 million registered customers worldwide.

He said GoldQuest appeared to have fallen foul of the Iranian authorities over the matter of indirect taxation for online business, and claimed monthly payments that had been made to the judiciary may not have been regular enough.

"We had a good working relationship with the last government."...Read More... (http://asia.news.yahoo.com/051103/afp/051103071000hightech.html)


Despite the efforts by the Iran Government, apparently GoldQuest / QI / QuestNet has found a "way" to continue to "operate" in Iran, reportedly handling "transactions" of several million US$ per week throughout 2006.

In fact, Vijay Eswaran, QI Group Managing Director, has reportedly stated on several occasions at recent GoldQuest / QI / Questnet events that Iran currently represents the largest single market for GoldQuest / QI / QuestNet.

Actually Vijay Eswaran's comments regarding Iran are an understatement.

As supported by the above AFP story, Questnet reportedly had sales of more than 260 million US$ in Iran in 2005 which represented 75% to 80% of all sales of QuestNet reported in 2005.

More to the point, in 2005 QuestNet is reported to have credited and paid more than 150 million US$ in commissions to "customers" in Iran.

And Iran according to Vijay Eswaran continues to currently represent the largest single market for GoldQuest / QI / QuestNet.

orchipalar
12-09-2006, 12:27 PM
Iran: Special Probe Into High-Profile Corruption Case

06 June 2006
1,000 Accused, 175,000 Plaintiffs

AHVAZ, Khuzestan: A senior judicial official in this southwestern city said on Tuesday that a special probe has been launched into a huge corruption case involving over 1,000 accused and 175,000 plaintiffs.

Ahvaz Prosecutor Iraj Amirkhani told ISNA that the detainees are accused of disrupting the national economy, stressing that they have no affiliations with state organizations.

"All the accused in this case are real entities," he said, adding that they had taken large sums of money from people promising to pay them back in higher amounts.

"But they took money from one person and pay the same amount to another," he maintained.

The prosecutor said most of the accused have poor economic knowledge, stressing that their activities resembled those of the banned international pyramid company, GoldQuest.

He said judicial action against those behind the wrongdoing began one year ago, adding that two special prosecutors, a special police unit, the investigation bureau of police, Khuzestan province's intelligence bureau and the provincial security council have participated in the high-profile probe.

Several members of the notorious pyramid company GoldQuest as well as those working for a number of other pyramid companies, including Goldmine and My7Diamonds (M7D), have been arrested across the nation.

In January, the constitutional supervisory body, the Guardians Council, endorsed a parliamentary proposal to prevent GoldQuest and other pyramid companies from continuing their illegal operations in Iran.

The council found the proposal--in the form of an additional note to the 1990 Law on Fighting Disruptors of Economic System in compliance with Islamic laws and the Constitution.

http://www.zawya.com/story.cfm/sidZAWYA20060607044523

Err...more latest news from IRAN...

orchipalar
12-09-2006, 12:41 PM
Despite the efforts by the Iran Government, apparently GoldQuest / QI / QuestNet has found a "way" to continue to "operate" in Iran, reportedly handling "transactions" of several million US$ per week throughout 2006.

In fact, Vijay Eswaran, QI Group Managing Director, has reportedly stated on several occasions at recent GoldQuest / QI / Questnet events that Iran currently represents the largest single market for GoldQuest / QI / QuestNet.

Actually Vijay Eswaran's comments regarding Iran are an understatement.

As supported by the above AFP story, Questnet reportedly had sales of more than 260 million US$ in Iran in 2005 which represented 75% to 80% of all sales of QuestNet reported in 2005.

More to the point, in 2005 QuestNet is reported to have credited and paid more than 150 million US$ in commissions to "customers" in Iran.

And Iran according to Vijay Eswaran continues to currently represent the largest single market for GoldQuest / QI / QuestNet.Err...a 'way' which is deemed to be illegal by the Iranian government...no doubt...judging from the various reports by them in 2006 alone...

So obviously somebody's claims are lies...

More to come...

Tahmasb Mazaheri, deputy minister of economic affairs and finance, said that the ministry has not issued permits for pyramid companies, rejecting reports that two such companies have managed to obtain license from the ministry.

Mazaheri, a former minister, further said the activities of goldquest and similar pyramid companies are against the interests of the national economy.

GoldQuest has reportedly seen a 90-percent decline in its activities in Iran following a Tehran court ruling that put an end to its illegal business here.

Hamid Reza Katouzian, vice chairman of Majlis Industries and Mines Commission, said the Intelligence Ministry has confirmed reports that goldquest activities have now declined to 10 percent.

http://www.zawya.com/story.cfm/sidZAWYA20051124050913/?query=goldquest

orchipalar
12-09-2006, 12:46 PM
"Some 86 percent of the money acquired by goldquest members in Iran is remitted out of the country," he said, adding that the company's activities are subject to the Law on Fighting Disruptors of Economic System.

The judge said only a few members of the company will collect a significant sum in the end as most others will lose their capital.

"Hence, the goldquest indictment is related both to the exit of capital and the numerous complaints lodged by those who have lost their money," he said, adding that 1,000 people have so far been summoned to Mashhad's prosecutor's offices in connection with the case.

Esmaili said two consignments of gold coins have also been confiscated from the company.

"These consignments were seized in the port city of Bandar Deylam (Bushehr province)," he said, adding that the coins were bound for Mashhad.

The judge investigating the high-profile goldquest case said late last month that the pyramid company's activities have led to the exit of half a billion dollars from Iran, stressing that goldquest is one of the largest economic corruption cases in the country.

Judge Hamid Reza Taefi further called on state banks to stop rendering services to pyramid companies, warning that they will be prosecuted if they do not halt cooperation with such companies.

http://www.zawya.com/story.cfm/sidZAWYA20051220043159/?query=goldquest

Err...all these were reported in early 2006 n late 2005...while somebody in GoldQuest...QuestNet or QI Ltd...could claim that they are doing well in Iran...go figure who could be lying all along...?

Iran: GoldQuest Operations Down by 90%
Iran Daily

25 October 2005
Agents Will Be Prosecuted Under Pyramid Firms Law

TEHRAN: The global numismatics company goldquest has seen a 90-percent decline in its activities in Iran following a Tehran court ruling that put an end to its illegal business here, said a senior lawmaker on Tuesday.

http://www.zawya.com/story.cfm/sidZAWYA20051026055558/?query=goldquest

o_nez
12-09-2006, 02:28 PM
Err...a 'way' which is deemed to be illegal by the Iranian government...no doubt...judging from the various reports by them in 2006 alone...

So obviously somebody's claims are lies...

More to come...

Tahmasb Mazaheri, deputy minister of economic affairs and finance, said that the ministry has not issued permits for pyramid companies, rejecting reports that two such companies have managed to obtain license from the ministry.

Mazaheri, a former minister, further said the activities of goldquest and similar pyramid companies are against the interests of the national economy.

GoldQuest has reportedly seen a 90-percent decline in its activities in Iran following a Tehran court ruling that put an end to its illegal business here.

Hamid Reza Katouzian, vice chairman of Majlis Industries and Mines Commission, said the Intelligence Ministry has confirmed reports that goldquest activities have now declined to 10 percent.

http://www.zawya.com/story.cfm/sidZAWYA20051124050913/?query=goldquest
The claims of a 90-percent decline in the activities of GoldQuest / QI / QuestNet in Iran are, at best, an exaggeration or, at worst, an overt attempt by someone to mislead the Judiciary in Iran.

Perhaps, Hamid Reza Katouzian or the Intelligence Ministry turned the figures around and upside down to satisfy the Judiciary and other Iran Government officials that they has successfully put an end to the illegal business of GoldQuest / QI / QuestNet in Iran.

A more accurate report would be:
Hamid Reza Katouzian, vice chairman of Majlis Industries and Mines Commission, said the Intelligence Ministry has confirmed reports that goldquest activities have now declined by 10 percent.

The self-proclaimed guru and expert on Silence most certainly must be well versed in the application and meaning of the Russian proverb:

When money speaks, the truth is silent.

orchipalar
12-09-2006, 03:05 PM
The claims of a 90-percent decline in the activities of GoldQuest / QI / QuestNet in Iran are, at best, an exaggeration or, at worst, an overt attempt by someone to mislead the Judiciary in Iran.

The self-proclaimed guru and expert on Silence most certainly must be well versed in the application and meaning of the Russian proverb:

When money speaks, the truth is silent.Err...on the contrary...of what Orchi heard before...

"When money speaks...the truth is twisted..."

Btw...since you may be posting from Vancouver Canada...perhaps you may not mind telling how GoldQuest...QuestNet or QI Ltd...is doing there...?

o_nez
12-09-2006, 04:45 PM
Hi Orchi,

GoldQuest / QI / QuestNet does not operate "openly" in Canada.

Product-based Pyramid Schemes (PPS) such as GoldQuest / QI / QuestNet are illegal in Canada and the United States. This is the reason GoldQuest / QI / QuestNet have never been able to operate openly.

However, some Canadians are involved in the scheme and some Americans are involved, also.


As a further thought regarding the false reports of a 90-percent decline in GoldQuest / QI / QuestNet activities in Iran, these false reports may have been meant for regulators and banking authorities "outside" of Iran to serve as a cover for GoldQuest / QI / QuestNet and the people in Iran who are facilitating the GoldQuest / QI / QuestNet business transactions both inside and outside Iran.

cikgu_questnet
13-09-2006, 04:05 PM
JIKA ADA YANG INGIN TAHU LANJUT MENGENAI Qi DAN QUESTNET SILA BELI BUSINESS TODAY VOL 06 issue 08 (BULAN OGOS). RUJUK MUKA SURAT 57. TQ.

orchipalar
13-09-2006, 04:15 PM
The Rise And Fall Of Enron

Global capitalism as usual

By Larry Everest & Leonard Innes

Six months ago, the Enron Corporation was riding high. In a little over a decade it had grown from a relatively small gas pipeline company to one of the leading energy corporations worldwide—7th on the Fortune 500 list of top U.S. companies and one of the 100 largest corporations in sales worldwide. Enron’s diverse businesses, from energy trading to Internet infrastructure equipment to water systems, spanned the globe. Its Dahbol Power Project outside Bombay was the single largest foreign investment in India. Enron controlled the Brazilian electricity distributor Elektro Eletricidade e Servico. It had investments in Asia, Latin America, Africa, and the Middle East. In the past two years, Enron handled more than $1 trillion in transactions, and in 2000 it reported sales of over $100 billion. On Wall Street Enron was seen as a capitalist “success story”—a model of operating in today’s leaner, meaner, more competitive global capitalist environment.

Yet with dizzying speed, Enron collapsed. On December 2, 2001, it became the largest U.S. company in history to file for bankruptcy.

http://www.zmag.org/ZMag/articles/march02everest-innes.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enron

Err...even being HIGHLY publicized in media...or recognized by Forbes or Fortune 500...would NOT guarantee anything...

More often than not...it's just one of its publicity stunts...to perhaps attracts unsuspecting potential clients...

orchipalar
13-09-2006, 08:10 PM
Get-rich-quick schemes under CID scanner

[ 30 Aug, 2006 0400hrs ISTTIMES NEWS NETWORK ]

HYDERABAD: That desire to go the extra mile and earn some extra money might land you in trouble.

Thousands of people, especially from middle-class families who are getting hooked to multi-level marketing (MLM) schemes, may have to face the bitter experience of cases being filed against them.

If, so far, they have only been treated as 'victims' being taken for a ride by promoters of such schemes, there is going to be a change in the way the police will henceforth handle such cases.

The 'victims' will soon be described as 'culprits' and prosecuted. The CID, which has studied various MLM schemes, has detected that in several cases, the entire family is involved in marketing some products.

Since they initially invest money in the schemes and have to get it back, every friend or relative is seen as a prospective 'market' and is convinced to put some money in the scheme.

One company even told its prospects that they could make Rs 13 lakh a year for just Rs 13,680. According to sources, families of several government officials have fallen prey to such schemes.

"Because of the inducement, practically everyone gets entangled in the scheme. But since they also join others in the scheme with the intention of getting the returns, cases can be booked against them too. We will soon start doing this," V C Sajjanar, SP, CID (Economic offences wing), Hyderabad, told TOI.

Also, the Vijayawada commissioner has been alerted about Goldquest Company. It has been brought to the notice of the police commissioner of Visakhapatnam about a MLM scheme being run by Victor Shoppe Pvt Ltd.

http://news.google.com.my/news/url?sa=t&ct=us/0-0&fp=450758b9fd1e71f6&ei=HfMHRazdNYe6pwLisujTBw&url=http%3A//timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1937762.cms&cid=0

Err...it would be interesting to keep watch of what's the latest development happening in India...about GoldQuest...QuestNet or QI Ltd...

zulgquest
15-09-2006, 05:23 PM
Get-rich-quick schemes under CID scanner

[ 30 Aug, 2006 0400hrs ISTTIMES NEWS NETWORK ]

HYDERABAD: That desire to go the extra mile and earn some extra money might land you in trouble.

Thousands of people, especially from middle-class families who are getting hooked to multi-level marketing (MLM) schemes, may have to face the bitter experience of cases being filed against them.

If, so far, they have only been treated as 'victims' being taken for a ride by promoters of such schemes, there is going to be a change in the way the police will henceforth handle such cases.

The 'victims' will soon be described as 'culprits' and prosecuted. The CID, which has studied various MLM schemes, has detected that in several cases, the entire family is involved in marketing some products.

Since they initially invest money in the schemes and have to get it back, every friend or relative is seen as a prospective 'market' and is convinced to put some money in the scheme.

One company even told its prospects that they could make Rs 13 lakh a year for just Rs 13,680. According to sources, families of several government officials have fallen prey to such schemes.

"Because of the inducement, practically everyone gets entangled in the scheme. But since they also join others in the scheme with the intention of getting the returns, cases can be booked against them too. We will soon start doing this," V C Sajjanar, SP, CID (Economic offences wing), Hyderabad, told TOI.

Also, the Vijayawada commissioner has been alerted about Goldquest Company. It has been brought to the notice of the police commissioner of Visakhapatnam about a MLM scheme being run by Victor Shoppe Pvt Ltd.

http://news.google.com.my/news/url?sa=t&ct=us/0-0&fp=450758b9fd1e71f6&ei=HfMHRazdNYe6pwLisujTBw&url=http%3A//timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1937762.cms&cid=0

Err...it would be interesting to keep watch of what's the latest development happening in India...about GoldQuest...QuestNet or QI Ltd...
I'm new here...it a quite nice discussion about this company....

zulgquest
15-09-2006, 05:30 PM
in my opinion..... what ever the company is, if the plan is great, then nobody should reject it.furthermore if it is not illigeal in our country.
if anybody don't wan't to involve then it is not their way of life. why don't we report it to the malaysian authority? please do it and i'm sure if it is illegeal, someone has to pay for it!
it quite surprising if it illigeal but can operated in M'sia since 1999.... i'm sure if it illigeal it will become like swisscash....which is proved to be illigeal by bank negara malaysia.
bye...

thkhong
16-09-2006, 05:12 PM
Zulgquest is right. In order to cut the story short, why dont we inquire from Bank Negara or any other relevant authorities whether :
1. The trading of gold in coins is allowable. Or rather the purchase of gold coins by the public from"authorised" outlets is legal.
2. Whether Goldquest is a legal establishment and recognised by Malaysian Laws.

If the answer to the above is positive, then it is up to anyone who thinks he can make "thousands" of ringgit to go ahead. What this forum is about whether Golquest is a gimmick or not.There shld. be no defence or opposition to the business . A fool is born every minute. I believe in earning my living doing a good days hard work, not by convincing people buying overinflated products. Gold prices are quoted openly and if people want to pay higher prices than it is up to them!

zulgquest
17-09-2006, 06:04 PM
Zulgquest is right. In order to cut the story short, why dont we inquire from Bank Negara or any other relevant authorities whether :
1. The trading of gold in coins is allowable. Or rather the purchase of gold coins by the public from"authorised" outlets is legal.
2. Whether Goldquest is a legal establishment and recognised by Malaysian Laws.

So who's going to report it? may be the negative people.....please do so and inform us about your report and the result of investigation.If anybody has documentation from malaysian law authority, please share with us. we all need to make this issue clear.i've checkd in suruhanjaya syarikat malaysia and it is registed(993949). if it is illigeal,why it is registered? are we saying SSM does not do their work? i don't think so. https://211.24.166.66/uni/no_roc.php SSM (https://211.24.166.66/uni/findroc.php)
There are too many people are negative and believe what they have read on web. it occurred everywhere and even in my/your department. when the bos want to impliment new things, many people will not follow as they have to change. not many people like to change even for their good! please believe in our malaysian authories, they are doing their best to make our life safe in harmony environment.

If the answer to the above is positive, then it is up to anyone who thinks he can make "thousands" of ringgit to go ahead. What this forum is about whether Golquest is a gimmick or not.There shld. be no defence or opposition to the business . A fool is born every minute. I believe in earning my living doing a good days hard work, not by convincing people buying overinflated products. Gold prices are quoted openly and if people want to pay higher prices than it is up to them!
Many people become billionaire through business, what type of biz u want to do, it up to yourself.
bye..
:rolleyes:

orchipalar
17-09-2006, 07:29 PM
Err...lets say this example:...

Chicken Inc. 1234567-X is a registered company in Malaysia...ahem...nothing wrong with that...

n lets say Chicken Inc. 1234567-X's bizness involves illicit trades like racketeering...prostitution n money laundering...n it hasn't been hurled to court yet...or it hasn't been investigated yet...or no complaint has been lodged yet...

Err...does anyone see the problem...?

Ahem...the same happens in those related countries...n years later it was found to be illegal...following complaints n investigations and verdicts by the relevant authorities there...

orange88
18-09-2006, 01:11 PM
Err...lets say this example:...

Chicken Inc. 1234567-X is a registered company in Malaysia...ahem...nothing wrong with that...

n lets say Chicken Inc. 1234567-X's bizness involves illicit trades like racketeering...prostitution n money laundering...n it hasn't been hurled to court yet...or it hasn't been investigated yet...or no complaint has been lodged yet...

Err...does anyone see the problem...?

Ahem...the same happens in those related countries...n years later it was found to be illegal...following complaints n investigations and verdicts by the relevant authorities there...

yes i get what you mean. Sometimes authorities do not have enough proof and evidence to close them down, unless the members themselves confess. Theres always a loophole in the laws... so I guess we'll just have to wait and see..

diablo
18-09-2006, 05:17 PM
It's amazing what you can get away with when you have the best paid legal advisers..

observer30
18-09-2006, 05:33 PM
LoL...:D
Orchi, are you trying to condemn Malaysian governments for corruptions by protecting illegal company operating in Malaysia for 8 years!? Welldone Orchi! I think this goes the same to Singapore, Thailand, Indonesia.... etc. ???

MAKING NOISE HERE is NOTHING, QUESTNET is operating BIGGER AND BIGGER, and another year comes, I think you are talking the same thing and doing the same thing here.

I would suggest to save your energy, print out all your news and make a report and close this company! I am just sit here and watch.. I ENJOY WATCHING HERE... LOL! That's why I am observer.. hehe. :D

o_nez
18-09-2006, 10:20 PM
Don't speak or laugh too soon, Observer30, for the wheel's still in spin...keep watching...

"and another year comes'" and maybe someone will still be in prison...maybe even your "best friend"...


If you truly are such a keen "observer" you will recognize that from the beginning the GoldQuest / QI / QuestNet business has been built on a foundatioon of deceptiom, lies, and double-talk.

This has especially been the case in Malaysia in order for GoldQuest / QI / QuestNet to be able to successfully deceive the The Ministry of Domestic Trade and Consumer Affairs.

The "Marketing Plan" introduced into Malaysia by GoldQuest / QI / QuestNet is a Product-based Pyramid Scheme (PPS) operating as a multi-level marketing business, but claiming not to be a multi-level marketing business to avoid regulation by The Ministry of Domestic Trade and Consumer Affairs.


GoldQuest / QI / QuestNet is a multi-level marketing business.

"...Speaking to AFP in Hong Kong, GoldQuest director for finance and corporate strategy Richard Zinkiewicz insists his company is merely a "multi-level marketing business".

Yet in Malaysia, GoldQuest / QI / QuestNet has claimed (and continues to claim) it is not a "multi-level marketing business".


Question:

How has a self-proclaimed "multi-level marketing business" been allowed to openly operate in Malaysia while recording US$ millions of sales and thousands of sales transactions in Malaysia without a license from The Ministry of Domestic Trade and Consumer Affairs?


Ultimatley, the double-talk and deceptive foundation on which the GoldQuest / QI / QuestNet business has been built will bring about the abrupt downfall of GoldQuest / QI / QuestNet just as others before them have fallen...never to rise again.


So continue to laugh, Observer30...for now...

In the end, it is certain that Orchi will have the last laugh...the best laugh! :D :cool:

observer30
18-09-2006, 10:44 PM
Don't speak or laugh too soon, Observer30, for the wheel's still in spin...keep watching...

"and another year comes'" and maybe someone will still be in prison...maybe even your "best friend"...


If you truly are such a keen "observer" you will recognize that from the beginning the GoldQuest / QI / QuestNet business has been built on a foundatioon of deceptiom, lies, and double-talk.

This has especially been the case in Malaysia in order for GoldQuest / QI / QuestNet to be able to successfully deceive the The Ministry of Domestic Trade and Consumer Affairs.

The "Marketing Plan" introduced into Malaysia by GoldQuest / QI / QuestNet is a Product-based Pyramid Scheme (PPS) operating as a multi-level marketing business, but claiming not to be a multi-level marketing business to avoid regulation by The Ministry of Domestic Trade and Consumer Affairs.


GoldQuest / QI / QuestNet is a multi-level marketing business.

"...Speaking to AFP in Hong Kong, GoldQuest director for finance and corporate strategy Richard Zinkiewicz insists his company is merely a "multi-level marketing business".

Yet in Malaysia, GoldQuest / QI / QuestNet has claimed (and continues to claim) it is not a "multi-level marketing business".


Question:

How has a self-proclaimed "multi-level marketing business" been allowed to openly operate in Malaysia while recording US$ millions of sales and thousands of sales transactions in Malaysia without a license from The Ministry of Domestic Trade and Consumer Affairs?


Ultimatley, the double-talk and deceptive foundation on which the GoldQuest / QI / QuestNet business has been built will bring about the abrupt downfall of GoldQuest / QI / QuestNet just as others before them have fallen...never to rise again.


So continue to laugh, Observer30...for now...

In the end, it is certain that Orchi will have the last laugh...the best laugh! :D :cool:

I will keep laughing until the last day.. hopefully i am not too old to see the fall of Questnet. For your info, Questnet is MLM. They have binary plan as well as residual plan (MLM plan). It's not as PPS as you mentioned. I.e. IDD Phone system like IConnect and Trinet, where people can repeat purchased their talk time. This is residual earning. Nutrition products like Skyfruits. Travel packages like Quest Vacations, Bonvo and Quest Leisure. In Singapore, Questnet is registered as MLM company. In Malaysia, QN Global is registered as Direct Selling company. I wonder why you smart ppl never study the plan first before bombarding that QN plan is illegal! Hahaha... Binary? Ecosway is binary! IDD Phone? Nextel or even Amway partnership with Redtone is doing the same. Nutrition products, just the same as Amway. ILLEGAL? Then all MLM are illegals. PPS is not anymore in 2006. Questnet is NOT GOLDQUEST. Your info is 6 years old. I AM STILL WAITING THE DEATH OF QUESTNET.. Can I see it please?? It's all depends on you O_nez and Orchi! Keep it up! Observer is observing! hahaha :D lol

p/s. you think QN s*****... of course modify the plan until it's fully complied to world MLM business! Who don't want to make more money?! :D

orchipalar
18-09-2006, 11:25 PM
Questnet is NOT GOLDQUEST. Your info is 6 years old. I AM STILL WAITING THE DEATH OF QUESTNET.. Can I see it please?? It's all depends on you O_nez and Orchi! Keep it up! Observer is observing! hahaha :D lolPNG OFFICIALS IMPLICATED IN PYRAMID SCHEME

PORT MORESBY, Papua New Guinea (PNG Post Courier, August 14) – The Morobe administration has moved swiftly to rid the Lae City Council of a pyramid scheme known as Questnet International.

Mr Zurenuoc has also appointed Kasen Bala as acting city manager. "I can't have this any more. We are acting to rid the Lae Urban LLG of this scheme, which is preying on the workers who are made to invest their hard-earned kina, convinced they would get windfalls," Mr Zurenuoc said. "The rank and file of the staff of the council, as well as LLG and ward workers, are all in it," he said. He said a check with the Bank of PNG has also shown that it is not a registered financial services institution.

The terms of references of the inquiry are: l Verify with the Central Bank whether Questnet is an authorised financial institution; l Ascertain the involvement of the city manager and director of social services in Questnet; l Investigate Whether council funds had been used on Questnet activities; l Investigate whether council facilities - offices, chamber, emails, photocopiers and telephones, letterheads, titles and positions have been used for Questnet activities; and l Investigate whether any contractual work has been allocated to any contractor who is involved with Questnet, and whether council workers have been induced to become involved in the scheme.

August 15, 2006

PNG Post Courier Online: www.postcourier.com.pg/

http://pidp.eastwestcenter.org/pireport/2006/August/08-15-01.htm


Goldquest is one of subsidiaries company of QI.

There are so many news.... I just remain neutral for both side of news.Err...is that news about QuestNet...more than 6 years old...?

A reminder here...you did say in one of your previous postings...that GoldQuest is a subsidiary of QI Ltd...http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/upload/showpost.php?p=172650&postcount=42

So what about QuestNet...how long has this company been registered here...? Does it have anything to do with QI Ltd...?

n what happened to GoldQuest in Malaysia...before?
For your info, Questnet is MLM. They have binary plan as well as residual plan (MLM plan). It's not as PPS as you mentionedErr...like the example given earlier...Chicken Inc., 1234567-X is a registered company...but it is NOT doing the right kind of chicken bizness...it is running illicit trades...so how?

observer30
18-09-2006, 11:38 PM
PNG OFFICIALS IMPLICATED IN PYRAMID SCHEME

PORT MORESBY, Papua New Guinea (PNG Post Courier, August 14) – The Morobe administration has moved swiftly to rid the Lae City Council of a pyramid scheme known as Questnet International.

Mr Zurenuoc has also appointed Kasen Bala as acting city manager. "I can't have this any more. We are acting to rid the Lae Urban LLG of this scheme, which is preying on the workers who are made to invest their hard-earned kina, convinced they would get windfalls," Mr Zurenuoc said. "The rank and file of the staff of the council, as well as LLG and ward workers, are all in it," he said. He said a check with the Bank of PNG has also shown that it is not a registered financial services institution.

The terms of references of the inquiry are: l Verify with the Central Bank whether Questnet is an authorised financial institution; l Ascertain the involvement of the city manager and director of social services in Questnet; l Investigate Whether council funds had been used on Questnet activities; l Investigate whether council facilities - offices, chamber, emails, photocopiers and telephones, letterheads, titles and positions have been used for Questnet activities; and l Investigate whether any contractual work has been allocated to any contractor who is involved with Questnet, and whether council workers have been induced to become involved in the scheme.

August 15, 2006

PNG Post Courier Online: www.postcourier.com.pg/

http://pidp.eastwestcenter.org/pireport/2006/August/08-15-01.htm

Err...is that news about QuestNet...more than 6 years old...?

A reminder here...you did say that GoldQuest is a subsidiary of QI Ltd...

So what about QuestNet...how long has this company been registered here...? Does it have anything to do with QI Ltd...?

n what happened to GoldQuest in Malaysia...before?Err...like the example given earlier...Chicken Inc., 1234567-X is a registered company...but it is NOT doing the right kind of chicken bizness...it is running illicit trades...so how?

You are suppose to bring down QN. You asked the wrong person lar, man.... I am not their staff or member. You want to know? Bring your lawyer, police officers, or O_Nez to battle this QN. My info is limited because mamak session with my Questnet friend... If you think they are illegal, you should now have enough evidence they are illegal.. please BOMBARD them in their OFFICE at amcorp tower level 13, or actually the ground floor also belongs to Questnet... Don't be impressed by their office... GO AND CLOSE THEM.. DON'T WAIT... DO IT TOMORROW... 19/9.. I am waiting to see the news on 20/9... lol :D

observer30
18-09-2006, 11:42 PM
"If you know the enemy and know yourself you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." Sun Tzu

I am not a good motivator... but if you don't know or get to know them inside out, you will never win this war... HAHAHA.... reading post from internet will not make your wiser.... That's keep me LAUGHING ALL THE TIME! :D lol

orchipalar
19-09-2006, 12:11 AM
Err...you may have been seen here as trying to evade from answering many questions raised n rising factual news reports n accounts of controversies arising from the bizness activities of GoldQuest...QuestNet or QI Ltd's...from many different parts of the world...otherthan emphasizing on their publicity stunts.

You may also have been seen here as contradicting your own statements...n perhaps misleading the readers...

You have been obviously seen as trying to hide certain facts about GoldQuest...QuestNet or QI Ltd's actual bizness' activities and codes of ethic... from the public knowledge...
"If you know the enemy and know yourself you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." Sun TzuErr...should Shun Tze be alive today...he would be ashamed of the probable misuse of one of his quotes by you...

Ahem...because he too would have known n differentiate it better that the early Chinese who lived thousands of years before him...had probably already learnt the meaning of the phrase "qua yang tou mai kou rou..."

observer30
19-09-2006, 12:22 AM
Err...you may have been seen here as trying to evade from answering many questions raised n rising factual news reports n accounts of controversies arising from the bizness activities of GoldQuest...QuestNet or QI Ltd's...from many different parts of the world...otherthan emphasizing on their publicity stunts.

You may also have been seen here as contradicting your own statements...n perhaps misleading the readers...

You have been obviously seen as trying to hide certain facts about GoldQuest...QuestNet or QI Ltd's actual bizness' activities and codes of ethic... from the public knowledge...Err...should Shun Tze be alive today...he would be ashamed of the probable misuse of one of his quotes by you...

Ahem...because he too would have known n differentiate it better that the early Chinese who lived thousands of years before him...had probably already learnt the meaning of the phrase "qua yang tou mai kou rou..."

Am I obligated to answer your questions?
And your Question should direct to person in charge, i.e. Mr. Vijay Eswaran, the Managing Director or Founder of QI Ltd, NOT observer30 who just have few friends in QN but never involved in the biz. The correct way of getting information is to go to their office for further information or due diligence, not sitting in front of computer, surfing website, make a few google search, talking to some strangers in forum, and that's called yourself expert! Ceh, you are nothing but NATO.. (No Action Talk Only).... If you are gutsy, talk to their boss tomorrow!! Amcorp Mall is near to Subang Jaya!

orchipalar
19-09-2006, 01:00 AM
Am I obligated to answer your questions?
And your Question should direct to person in charge, i.e. Mr. Vijay Eswaran, the Managing Director or Founder of QI Ltd, NOT observer30 who just have few friends in QN but never involved in the biz. The correct way of getting information is to go to their office for further information or due diligence, not sitting in front of computer, surfing website, make a few google search, talking to some strangers in forum, and that's called yourself expert! Ceh, you are nothing but NATO.. (No Action Talk Only).... If you are gutsy, talk to their boss tomorrow!! Amcorp Mall is near to Subang Jaya!
P U B L I C N O T I C E
The International Ad Agency, Hong Kong, reports the following facts ;

WANTED
Mr. Vijayeswaran Vijayarathnam
Alias : Mr. Vijay Eswaran
Born: 07 Oct 1960
Malaysian Citizen

The Hong Kong High Court received a multi-million U.S dollar Writ taken out against Eswaran and served on him, on 19 July 2006, for claims sued by stockholders of the Eswaran Empire. From the many companies in the group, there is the QI Group, QuestNet Ltd (formerly GoldQuest International Ltd), pyramid selling companies, and the time-share selling company, Quest Vacation Club, along with many others. The Hong Kong Tax Authority, have an ongoing investigation in process, into the operations of these companies.

Eswaran, with three other Co-horts, are wanted, as fugitives from justice, for crimes seeking the death penalty, where the Government Prosecution Office of the Philippines, after hearing both sides, filed charges of Syndicated Estafa, in court against Eswaran and his Co-horts below, with arrest warrants issued in May 2006. Although, a "temporary" 60-day stay from arrest has been imposed for the time being, Interpol have been alerted, for a worldwide search of these fugitives, in due course.
http://www.networknewsagency.com/?nav=var&id=21

http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/upload/showpost.php?p=172141&postcount=33

Err...are you referring to the same Mr. Vijay Eswaran...? IF So...now how do you suppose...that he is who he his...? Ahem...since you seem to know him better...he should be trustworthy to you right?
There are many QN hardcore fan refused to see it as PYRAMID. Technically, people like the product, they buy (invest) and the spread the words by mouth using CRP. However, I am very disappointed to many LEADERS (who stand up and talk during normal training at AMCORP) that they ARE NOT FOCUSING IN PRODUCTS but RECRUITMENT. Skills trainings are leading to "Contact&Invite", "Present the Plan" and "Follow Thru". ARE THEY REALLY FOCUSING IN PRODUCTS? NO, IT'S ABOUT PURPOSE IN LIFE. Why are you doing this business? It's about LIFE, changing life. Because of family members, TIME AND MONEY are they concern. This is already penetrated in many networkers mindset, that's why TRAININGS and SYSTEM are extremely important for THEM.

I personally think that QN is a legal company, however the MISCONDUCT of their NETWORKERS are deeply in doubts. I am a business man also experiencing the networkers way before. I have found the pro and cons about MLM business. Talking about experience? Am I eligible to say it here? Well, results speak LOUDER!Err...so indeed you may be more associated to the bizness...despite your repeated denials...?
EQUIP YOURSELF WITH KNOWLEDGE!!! STOP BEING AH BENG OR AH LIAN !!!

I am a businessman, retails shops (2x) also involvement in MLM company with RM15,000 income per month. I know this industry very well. My best friend is top leader in Questnet. My another best friend is also top leader in Amway. I am no against about the company... But I know why Questnet name is tarnished... all because of unethical networkers who are too ignorance in getting proper trainings.

REMEMBER, NETWORK MARKETING IS A LEGAL BUSINESS IN THE WORLD (EXCEPT A FEW COUNTRIES ESP CHINA). THIS INDUSTRY CONTRIBUTES A BIG PORTION TO COUNTRY ECONOMY AS WELL. AND IT'S ALSO VERY EASY TO BE MISUNDERSTOOD AS PYRAMID SCHEME!

Congratulations, you just learn something new today. And this is FREE. I will not respond to any silly posting here.Err...of course you are NOT obliged to answer any of the questions or controversies reported in so many news in many parts of the world...BUT your persistence certainly didn't convince Orchi that you were going to stop at all...in here.
Haha... Questnet doesn't belongs to me or you. If I continue, this thread is neverending. Since Orchi is tycoon pasar malam seller happy with his life, better enjoy your pasar malam scene... pray for no rain.. LoL Good Night.... Questnet is waiting for you to sue... I hope to see the news in local newspaper "ORCHI DESTROYED A BILLION DOLLAR COMPANY!" GOOD LUCK MAN!!Err...be careful there...the Administrator of this forum...may conclude that you might have since been getting personal with your persistently biased arguments...

IF so...you could be banana-ed for getting too personal...which could lend little or NO credence to most if NOT all of your arguments...

orange88
19-09-2006, 01:05 AM
Am I obligated to answer your questions?
And your Question should direct to person in charge, i.e. Mr. Vijay Eswaran, the Managing Director or Founder of QI Ltd, NOT observer30 who just have few friends in QN but never involved in the biz. The correct way of getting information is to go to their office for further information or due diligence, not sitting in front of computer, surfing website, make a few google search, talking to some strangers in forum, and that's called yourself expert! Ceh, you are nothing but NATO.. (No Action Talk Only).... If you are gutsy, talk to their boss tomorrow!! Amcorp Mall is near to Subang Jaya!

sounds like you're getting a little extremist here :eek:
lets just be more realistic, its no point talking to the manager of a company who sells the product itself. All he/she would say is positive information about the product. i believe self research as in doing a google search, talking to other people or even members/supporters themselves would be a wise way of getting more information about a company/product.

observer30
19-09-2006, 09:16 AM
How about I ask you Questions and you answer them all?

1. What do you know about Pyramid Scheme? Can you define it by law not by shape? Which law in Malaysia that refers to Pyramid Scheme?
2. Is Network Marketing or MLM businesses are illegal?
3. What is the difference between a MLM business plan and a pyramid scheme?
4. What is the difference between Questnet plan and other MLM plan i.e. Amway?
5. Which part of Questnet plan falls into Pyramid Scheme plan?
6. IS Questnet running the same plan or different plan in Malaysia and Singapore?
7. What is the definition of Pyramid Scheme in Singapore?
8. Singapore, a top 20 strictest countries in the world, do you think it has a slight chance of corruption ??
9. How many MLM companies being approved by Singapore compared to Malaysia?
10. Do you think under a strict observation from Singapore government will allow Questnet operates in Singapore?
11. Can Network Marketing operates in China? How many NM companies being setup in China today? Do you think Questnet is legal in China today?
12. If one country banned Questnet, do you think this applies to all others 180+ countries around the world?
13. Can you trust everything being reported in Newspaper or Website?
14. Who are the composers for the news?
15. Did Questnet register their business in Malaysia (business registration)?
16. Did Questnet register their MLM business in Malaysia?
17. LASTLY, QUESTNET ILLEGAL IN MALAYSIA?

Well, Question is the Answer.... lol :D

by the way, have you approach anyone working in Questnet in Amcorp? I will observe until next year.. and you know what I will say?

orange88
19-09-2006, 08:29 PM
How about I ask you Questions and you answer them all?

1. What do you know about Pyramid Scheme? Can you define it by law not by shape? Which law in Malaysia that refers to Pyramid Scheme?
2. Is Network Marketing or MLM businesses are illegal?
3. What is the difference between a MLM business plan and a pyramid scheme?
4. What is the difference between Questnet plan and other MLM plan i.e. Amway?
5. Which part of Questnet plan falls into Pyramid Scheme plan?
6. IS Questnet running the same plan or different plan in Malaysia and Singapore?
7. What is the definition of Pyramid Scheme in Singapore?
8. Singapore, a top 20 strictest countries in the world, do you think it has a slight chance of corruption ??
9. How many MLM companies being approved by Singapore compared to Malaysia?
10. Do you think under a strict observation from Singapore government will allow Questnet operates in Singapore?
11. Can Network Marketing operates in China? How many NM companies being setup in China today? Do you think Questnet is legal in China today?
12. If one country banned Questnet, do you think this applies to all others 180+ countries around the world?
13. Can you trust everything being reported in Newspaper or Website?
14. Who are the composers for the news?
15. Did Questnet register their business in Malaysia (business registration)?
16. Did Questnet register their MLM business in Malaysia?
17. LASTLY, QUESTNET ILLEGAL IN MALAYSIA?

Well, Question is the Answer.... lol :D

by the way, have you approach anyone working in Questnet in Amcorp? I will observe until next year.. and you know what I will say?


big deal.....

zulgquest
19-09-2006, 09:11 PM
big deal.....
i think most of us here are making mistake by not trusting the Malaysian authorities. If the authorities said ok, then it is ok. why u are arguing about it? are u not malaysian? are u trying to make havoc? if u have proofs, bring it and report it. by doing that u will benefit all of us. by writing what u know from internet does not mean u r right! and it also does not mean that u are better,have more knowledge than Malaysia authority!
so please make a report as soon as possible, if u want to save malaysian(as u think that QN are illegal).
bye...

IanQ
19-09-2006, 09:47 PM
i think most of us here are making mistake by not trusting the Malaysian authorities. If the authorities said ok, then it is ok. why u are arguing about it? are u not malaysian? are u trying to make havoc? if u have proofs, bring it and report it. by doing that u will benefit all of us. by writing what u know from internet does not mean u r right! and it also does not mean that u are better,have more knowledge than Malaysia authority!
so please make a report as soon as possible, if u want to save malaysian(as u think that QN are illegal).
bye...

The statements above are a set of funny circular argument... just because it is legal does not mean it is ethical. Just because the authorities "ok'ed" an activity (for sake of argument that it is approved) does not mean that I/we have to trust/go by their stance.
Btw, just because something is not stated illegal does not mean it is legal.

End of the day, do use common sense. Btw, why would anyone believes anything written/spoken by anyone... same goes on whether one is pro or against the issue.
(on that matter, just ignore my statement if you the reader can't evaluate my statement... haha)

orange88
20-09-2006, 12:46 PM
The statements above are a set of funny circular argument... just because it is legal does not mean it is ethical. Just because the authorities "ok'ed" an activity (for sake of argument that it is approved) does not mean that I/we have to trust/go by their stance.
Btw, just because something is not stated illegal does not mean it is legal.

End of the day, do use common sense. Btw, why would anyone believes anything written/spoken by anyone... same goes on whether one is pro or against the issue.
(on that matter, just ignore my statement if you the reader can't evaluate my statement... haha)

i have to agree that at the end of the day it is up to our own common sense and decision whether to trust a statement made by anyone. It is not the matter of how to come to that decision but rather why.

observer30
22-09-2006, 10:14 AM
The statements above are a set of funny circular argument... just because it is legal does not mean it is ethical. Just because the authorities "ok'ed" an activity (for sake of argument that it is approved) does not mean that I/we have to trust/go by their stance.
Btw, just because something is not stated illegal does not mean it is legal.


lol... :D there is always grandpa's story and grandma's story. haha...
Let's try to be neutral here... even if the news says ILLEGAL, doesn't mean it's ILLEGAL. Just because some authorities said NOT "OK"ed, doesn't mean that I/we have not to trust them.

Take this example.
Mr. A work in company ABC, and Mr. X works in company XYZ

Mr. A: Hi Mr. X, which company are you working with?
Mr. X: Hi, I am working in XYZ company. We sell jewellery, diamonds, gold, platinum... as big as POH KWONG!
Mr. A: Oh, is your company legal?
Mr. X: Yes, of course! It's registered and audited. We pay tax. It's legal business!
Mr. A: I know, eventhough it's registered, doesn't mean it's legal!
Mr. X: What!? How can you say that! Do you have any proof of what you said?
Mr. A: I give you one example: "Chicken Inc. 1234567-X is a registered company in Malaysia...ahem...nothing wrong with that...

n lets say Chicken Inc. 1234567-X's bizness involves illicit trades like racketeering...prostitution n money laundering...n it hasn't been hurled to court yet...or it hasn't been investigated yet...or no complaint has been lodged yet...

Do you see the problem?
Mr. X: WHAT?? Are you trying to say my company is involving illicit trades...???? :mad:
Mr. A: No lar... but just be carefullah... I am just trying to warn....
Mr. X: .....





End of the day, do use common sense. Btw, why would anyone believes anything written/spoken by anyone... same goes on whether one is pro or against the issue.
(on that matter, just ignore my statement if you the reader can't evaluate my statement... haha)

Just give an example to everyone to think.... :D LOL...
This is a freespeech forum... in every situation, always YIN and YANG.... It's either you see it as half empty cup or half full cup....

So.. nice talking to you, NEIGHBOURS!!!! :D

Let me requote what IanQ said:
End of the day, do use common sense. Btw, why would anyone believes anything written/spoken by anyone... same goes on whether one is pro or against the issue.
(on that matter, just ignore my statement if you the reader can't evaluate my statement... haha)
Ditto!!
Observer30 :D

iemazainQN
22-09-2006, 02:49 PM
Can i reply in Malay?

observer30
22-09-2006, 05:06 PM
Can i reply in Malay?

Why not? :D Kita orang Malaysia. Takkan tidak faham Bahasa Melayu. ;)

iemazainQN
22-09-2006, 06:29 PM
Ok... agak menarik perbincangan dlm topik ni.. Tp saya tgk kenapa sesetengah org di sini terlalu negative about QN? adakah krn mereka cemburu? atau dengki? atau sj nk provok kami yg buat QN?

Ok sy perkenalkan diri sbg iema, and sy telah 2 thn buat QN. Berdasarkan kajian sy sebelum joint, dan sekarang telah bersama2, tiada apa yg nk dikatakan illegall. Kini dh 8 thn, dn dh jd billionare company. Tetapi kenapa msh ada yg cuba butakan mata, dn lemparkan bermacam2 tuduhan?

Sedangkan QN bekerja sama dengan kerajaan2 dunia.. dan main sponsor utk IBF(lihat akhbar 18 Sept-24Sept atau Astro channel 83..QI sbg main sponserrr).. dan mcm2 lagi... Apa yg saya khuatir, sbg senior dlm QN, saya risau org2 yg br joint QN demotivated dgn tuduhan2 yang tdk berasas. Better sesiapa ckp yang bukan2 dan tuduhan melulu, buat kajian ttg company, dan cuba contact dengan org2 atasan, tanya apa company ni buat?????

Byk saya nk terangkan supaya org2 yg x tahu ni faham apa yg kita buat sbnrnyaa... Supaya tdk simply ckp... Kadang2 kalau kita terlalu negative, akan membuka juga keburukan diri sendiri...Sbb cuba menidakkan yang benar...Sudah terang lagikan bersuluhh...

Kenapa kita bkn AJL? Kerana kita bukan MLM Company. Binary yg di gunakan adalah system bagaimana company buat pembayaran komisyen pd kita... Dan konsep kita membantu org lain...

Ok, secara ringkas, QN membayar kita komisyen setiap kali prouk mereka terjual. Produk tersebut tdk kira sama ada product dr Gold Quest, Quest vacation, Quest Technology. Jd terpulang pd individu ingin marketkan product daripada anak syarikat yg mana satu.

Tiada jual beli antara kita dengan org yg diperkenalkan, tetapi jual beli berlaku antara org yang kita perkenalkan product QN dgn QN sendiri... Kita sekadar sbg introducer.. Then kita dapat komisyen. Salah keee???

Kenapa ada company di Malaysia spt streamyx yg memperkenalkan kaedah customer get customer, then u get rebet or komisyen, or anybody yg perkenalkn kredit kad, dn dpt komisyen... kenapa company2 tersebut x didaftarkan diwah AJL??? Dan jika anda perkenalkan seseorang membeli kereta atau rumah atau tanah, dan anda dibayar komisyen adakah itu MLM??????

Jadi konsep sama..kami juga begitu.. TETAPI, kalau kita buat sales dlm bisnes sebegitu, untuk dptkn BANYAK komisyen, kita perlu cr RAMAI org.. Sprt sales assistant yg selalu ada di pasaraya, memperkenalkan produk COMPANY mereka, dan mereka dpt komisyen... Semakin ramai org menggunakan produk company mereka,se makin byk komisyen mereka akn dpttt.. Betul???

Dlm QN jgk sama, blh nak buat begitu kerana komisyen kita ttp sama iaitu USD41.66 for every their product yg bernilai 1UV terjual.. CONTOH, kalau kita rs nak perkenalkan kpd 12 org atas nama kita sbg introducer, BOLEH!!!! siapa kata tak boleh???. TETAPI komisyen tu kita seorang saja yg dapat!!!!. Tetapi Quest Net berkonsepkan RYTHM (Raise Yourself to Help Mankind) jd dgn 12 org kawan td, kita just gunakan 2 org sj diperkenalakan oleh kita cthnya A dan B sj. Dn D & F di perkenalkan oleh kita letak nama diperkenalkan oleh A atau B... jd A atau B akn dpt US41.66 dan kita pon akan dpt us 41.66. So, SALAH KEEE?? QN nak membantu kita dengan kaedah networkingg....Itu secara ringkas.. Mcm mane company byr? Ada stepnya.. Panjang la pulak nak tulis... So, kalau sesiapa berminat nk tahu lbh lanjut, blh msg saya... :)

Dan Selama 8 thn beroperasi TIDAK pernah seorang pon komplen tdk dpt komisyen... Cuma sesetengah negara yg blm benar2 memahami konsep QN sbnrnya mereka akan investigate dahulu.. xbermakna mereka dh confirm salah... Tp QN akan fight krn mereka di pihak yg benar.. Begitu jg di Malaysia, awl kemunculannya mmg mcm2 isu. Atlast, Win Win situation dgn government sbb kita x slh, tp xkan nk kata government salah.. Sehingga la kehari ini..Dan bila kita start menembusi negara baru, isu yg sama timbul..Begitu jg di India.. Tp setelah di selidik, kita di pihak yg benar..

Jadi akhirnya, jgn la bercakap sblm berfikir... Kalau ada yg msh negatif, terpulang, kami ttp semakin maju kehadapan.. Yang negatif tu, akan ttp begitu.. Dan tiada perubahan dlm diri... Akhirkata maaf jika kata2 saya ada menyinggung sesetengah pihak...

Di bwh beberapa link ttg QI or QN :

website saya ---> www.friendster.com/iemazain

(http://www.utusan.com.my/utusan/archive.asp?y=2006&dt=0919&pub=utusan_malaysia&sec=sukan&pg=su_01.htm&arc=hive)

(http://www.microsoft.com/asia/crp/search2.asp?CaseID=218)

(http://download.microsoft.com/documents/customerevidence/6211_GoldQuest__FINAL.doc)

(http://www.badmintonmanager.net/)

(http://archives.thestar.com.my/search/default.aspx?query=IBF)

!SUCCESS VISION!

zulgquest
23-09-2006, 01:43 AM
Dear IanQ,
are u malaysian or what?are u sure? why r u don't believe in Malaysia authorities? it weird that u don't believe in authorities.if not.......
(i'm using your statement..."ignore my statement if you can't evaluate my statement... haha")


The statements above are a set of funny circular argument... just because it is legal does not mean it is ethical. Just because the authorities "ok'ed" an activity (for sake of argument that it is approved) does not mean that I/we have to trust/go by their stance.
Btw, just because something is not stated illegal does not mean it is legal.

in your opinion, my statement is funny. in my opinion, your statement are a set of outlaws statement.
(i'm using your statement...ignore my statement if you can't evaluate my statement... haha)

[/QUOTE]End of the day, do use common sense. Btw, why would anyone believes anything written/spoken by anyone... same goes on whether one is pro or against the issue.
(on that matter, just ignore my statement if you the reader can't evaluate my statement... haha)[/QUOTE]

that is the use of community, to share the knowledge. if you don't believe anyone then u are.......sorry need to use your statement again(ignore my statement if you can't evaluate my statement... haha)
sorry and have a nice day...bye

Erubus
23-09-2006, 05:45 AM
Hi all,

I started this thread and have left it so long that i forgotten about it and i see there's so much action.

But how come my questions from the earlier post not answered?


I just look at QN Global co. ref no. 656866-W.
In QN Global they don't give any hints that they're related to Questnet or GoldQuest but they have the same Managing Director.

And the Direct Sales License is issued for QN Global which is selling Wellness supplements.

Can they use that Wellness Supplements DSA license for other company? QUESTNET LTD co. ref no. 993949-P

Isnt that illegal? Anyway would get clarification from Domestic trade.

Thank you anyway :)


Theres 2 companies registered and 1 is "QN Global co. ref no. 656866-W" and another is "QUESTNET LTD co. ref no. 993949-P"

1 of them "QN Global co. ref no. 656866-W" is given a direct sales license for doing business trading with wellness products. I guess it isnt too hard to get a license approved for that since there is so many companies that is selling wellness product under NM.

and another company "QUESTNET LTD co. ref no. 993949-P" is not given a direct sales license but is selling numismatic product under direct sales?

My intention is not to flame or bring down a business. My intentions are to get to the bottom of things and im looking for the truth. But it has seem like this is an grey area. Ministry of Domestic Trade couldn't provide me with any information. My guess is probably they're either playing it safe or they have no idea.

Another question that i brough up is regarding the so call licensing.
A company that i know of deals with movie licensing, and any other general publicity licensing pertaining to movies and also FIFA. They're the one who manufactured the official license fifa world cup 2006 product in malaysia. I know coz i was one of the trader and i know the owner of the company and i know the parties involve in getting the licensing. Basicly to obtain a license to use their logo on a coin such as those of GQ is not hard. Basicly you pay a royalty for it.

Someone brough up saying that GQ tied up or partnered with organisation such as FIFA. I would like to point out that GQ's Fifa commemarative coins are not on FIFA's official coin list? Please correct me if i am wrong on that.

Here's another. Referring to your "Ferrari F1 Shield Coin" http://www.goldquest.com/product_detail.aspx?productID=1219
Issuing authority is Govenrment of Cook? How are they even related to F1?

And how about this "I Am the Way Commemorative Coin" ?
http://www.goldquest.com/product_detail.aspx?productID=985
Endorcing authority is FGBMFI ?
An email reply from someone who's from FGBMFI

"We had a coin program available about 3 years ago. It's no longer
available.
Blessings,
(Name deleted)"

And lets discussed about these issuing authority.
Government of cook islands
https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/cw.html

Kingdom of bhutan
https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/bt.html

Central bank of somalia?
https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/so.html

And on this coin collectors forum some of them gave their feedback.
http://www.cointalk.org/showthread.php?p=131295#post131295

An article regarding commemarative or collectors coins issued by coins dealers.
http://www.coinbidders.com/warning.asp

Now i'm not targeting Questnet or gold quest.
I am questioning your product by itself. How much Collectors value is there? Read especialy the last link.

So lets summarize.
No.1) What is this grey area regarding using DS license for wellness to trade coins?
No.2) How valueble is these so called commemarative coins?
No.3) I'm not targeting QUESTNET.
No.4) I'm not targeting anyone doing questnet.

And before i forget, someone mentioned that its still operating in malaysia and hasn't been busted yet. The reason i created this thread is so that no one will have money lost if it is busted. It is a preventive measure. Afterall if everything is proven alright then wouldn't it be helpfull for QN marketeers?

Erubus
23-09-2006, 06:22 AM
If QUESTNET is illegal, would:-
a) Organisations like United Nation, Fifa, IBF, Olympic Council, F1 would like to work with illegal company?
b) Governments i.e. Singapore Government allows pyramid scheme company operates in their country for 8 years? Why would President of Thailand hand shaking with Mr. Vijay, and also our Prime Minister (Abdullah Badawi) was seen sitting side by side with Mr. Vijay in the show "Disney on Ice" last year.
c) Until today, Questnet office still around with EMPLOYEES working... Don't they think they are in risk working with illegal company?
d) JR Mayer Mint, 1871 partner with Questnet in minting numismatic products for Questnet for distribution
e) Case study by Microsoft
f) Brazil Team having a round table dinner with all Questnet directors before the FIFA 2006 World Cup games.
g) Our badminton hero, Wong Choon Hann, receiving medals from Mr. Vijay during the Burhimham Badminton championship. Partnership with Punch Gunalan and Rudy Hartono?


A) have been answerd. My above post.
B) business man's mingle around famous people or people in powers to show that they have met or mingle around with such person. Any businesses have the same thing. Orchy pointed out a good example.
C) If a company is illegal its not its employee's fault. As long as they're being paid to work and that's all it matters nowadays. Afterall the law won't bring them to court for working there. Its the directors bottom that's on the line.
D) JR Mayer is not a partner of Questnet. ITS PART OF QN since 2000 after QN bought them.
E) No idea what case study by microsoft is suppose to mean.
F) Look at it this way. If Mr. Director of company so and so want to sponsor a meal for entire Malaysia Football Association. Would they decline it?
G) Its called sponsorship. And when you sponsor you can request that a representative from your sponsoring company to be present for award ceremony. Even if medal presentation. Whats the Partnership with Punch Gunalan and Rudy Hartono about?

observer30
23-09-2006, 08:47 AM
Theres 2 companies registered and 1 is "QN Global co. ref no. 656866-W" and another is "QUESTNET LTD co. ref no. 993949-P"

1 of them "QN Global co. ref no. 656866-W" is given a direct sales license for doing business trading with wellness products. I guess it isnt too hard to get a license approved for that since there is so many companies that is selling wellness product under NM.

and another company "QUESTNET LTD co. ref no. 993949-P" is not given a direct sales license but is selling numismatic product under direct sales?


one is for customer service centre and another one is direct selling. QI is still based in HK eventhough Vijay is Malaysian. All the board of directors are mainly stationed in HK.
If you sell thing online, you need a website. People around the world can buy i.e. Amazon.com.
Have you seen Amazon.com setup their offices everywhere in the world? Supposingly QN doesn't required to set any offices, but due to skeptics, they set the customer service centre in MALAYSIA to support for products faulty, back office questions, trainings, sceptics' questions, illegal questions, license questions... and handle tough malaysians that bringing police officers to close them up...





Another question that i brough up is regarding the so call licensing.
A company that i know of deals with movie licensing, and any other general publicity licensing pertaining to movies and also FIFA. They're the one who manufactured the official license fifa world cup 2006 product in malaysia. I know coz i was one of the trader and i know the owner of the company and i know the parties involve in getting the licensing. Basicly to obtain a license to use their logo on a coin such as those of GQ is not hard. Basicly you pay a royalty for it.

Someone brough up saying that GQ tied up or partnered with organisation such as FIFA. I would like to point out that GQ's Fifa commemarative coins are not on FIFA's official coin list? Please correct me if i am wrong on that.

Here's another. Referring to your "Ferrari F1 Shield Coin" http://www.goldquest.com/product_de...?productID=1219
Issuing authority is Govenrment of Cook? How are they even related to F1?

And how about this "I Am the Way Commemorative Coin" ?
http://www.goldquest.com/product_de...x?productID=985
Endorcing authority is FGBMFI ?
An email reply from someone who's from FGBMFI

"We had a coin program available about 3 years ago. It's no longer
available.
Blessings,
(Name deleted)"

And lets discussed about these issuing authority.
Government of cook islands
https://www.cia.gov/cia/publication...ok/geos/cw.html

Kingdom of bhutan
https://www.cia.gov/cia/publication...ok/geos/bt.html

Central bank of somalia?
https://www.cia.gov/cia/publication...ok/geos/so.html

And on this coin collectors forum some of them gave their feedback.
http://www.cointalk.org/showthread....1295#post131295

An article regarding commemarative or collectors coins issued by coins dealers.
http://www.coinbidders.com/warning.asp



Very simple logic,
Says, Royal Mint Malaysia issue a Mahathir Coin limited edition for 1000 pcs with Fine Gold 999.9
What do you think is the value if
a) Royal Mint asked Sykt ABC S/B to endorse the product
b) Royal Mint endorsed themself (which is stupid!! No one make and claimed themself)
c) Royal Mint asked Malaysia Government to endorse
d) Royal Mint asked Kingdom of Thailand to endorse

If product, mint, endorsing, bank are all LOCAL... what is the value to international market? Only Malaysian will buy it.

As for FIFA Commemarative coins, GOLDQUEST has become one of the Distributor for Fifa commemorative coins. As as Singapore Mint
http://www.getformesingapore.com/previous2006/090606_officialfifaworldcupcommemorativecoinsandco llectibles.htm
This is the flyer of Fifa coin
http://www.goldquest.com/product_flyer.aspx?flyerName=FWPS8_flyer.jpg
I don't understand why you say... I would like to point out that GQ's Fifa commemarative coins are not on FIFA's official coin list? If Goldquest falsely stated this information, they can be sued and close shop forever! I hope you are right, so people will take action against Goldquest! :D



B) business man's mingle around famous people or people in powers to show that they have met or mingle around with such person. Any businesses have the same thing. Orchy pointed out a good example.
This means Vijay Eswaran is NOT CRIMINAL as shown in the website because he can mingle around with powerful person. If he is criminal, he should HIDE in the DARK not EXPOSE under LIGHT!


C) If a company is illegal its not its employee's fault. As long as they're being paid to work and that's all it matters nowadays. Afterall the law won't bring them to court for working there. Its the directors bottom that's on the line.
Same here, their staff could be one of us staying in USJ. Same as my example in previous post! People pointing QN is "illegal" eventhough licensed. What do you think this means to people working for this company? Do you think they won't feel hurt? If I am pointing your company is "ILLEGAL" with licensed, are you happy? Use your brain before opening your mouth.


D) JR Mayer is not a partner of Questnet. ITS PART OF QN since 2000 after QN bought them.
JRMayer since 1871 has been bought by QI (1998) which means QN is SUPER RICH!!! You have made a good point !!!
Hahaha! LoL :D

E) No idea what case study by microsoft is suppose to mean.
Which means, microsoft.com posted their information in part of their Case study is not a small thing. They are SO MANY customers of Microsoft, why goldquest? Bill gates is SUPER RICH MAN... Microsoft is so much richer than QN.... they can actually not bother to waste their time for 1 customer... If QN is not strong, they won't get the highlight! Again, this SHOWS QN IS SUPER POWER!!!!

F) Look at it this way. If Mr. Director of company so and so want to sponsor a meal for entire Malaysia Football Association. Would they decline it?
GOOD POINT IF THEY ARE LEGAL COMPANY. If VIJAY IS MAFIA, selling drugs, running illicit trades, do you think these ppl will bother to get their picture taken with them??? They have their TEAM INVESTIGATE QN FIRST before any deal being DONE! Not simply take offer like they are addicted/begging for money of sponsorship! Somemore, these are international events ie. FIFA, Olympic, IBF!!!!!

G) Its called sponsorship. And when you sponsor you can request that a representative from your sponsoring company to be present for award ceremony. Even if medal presentation. Whats the Partnership with Punch Gunalan and Rudy Hartono about?
Since you are so clever searching google, you don't know Goldquest made Rudy Hartono coin set approved by Punch Gunalan, IBF? THey are not awarding medals, BUT RUDY HARTONO allowing his face minted on the COIN SET minted by JRMAYER distributed by Goldquest! Is this called partnership or sponsorship?

:D :D
I AM WAITING FOR BAD NEWS ABOUT QUESTNET IN MALAYSIA...!!! I AM READING NEWSPAPER EVERYDAY! WITHOUT BAD NEWS, I AM KEEP LAUGHING!
:D :D

observer30
23-09-2006, 09:13 AM
Now... why no one answer my questions???? I have questions and waiting for answers... please help me out...



1. What do you know about Pyramid Scheme? Can you define it by law not by shape? Which law in Malaysia that refers to Pyramid Scheme?
2. Is Network Marketing or MLM businesses are illegal?
3. What is the difference between a MLM business plan and a pyramid scheme?
4. What is the difference between Questnet plan and other MLM plan i.e. Amway?
5. Which part of Questnet plan falls into Pyramid Scheme plan?
6. IS Questnet running the same plan or different plan in Malaysia and Singapore?
7. What is the definition of Pyramid Scheme in Singapore?
8. Singapore, a top 20 strictest countries in the world, do you think it has a slight chance of corruption ??
9. How many MLM companies being approved by Singapore compared to Malaysia?
10. Do you think under a strict observation from Singapore government will allow Questnet operates in Singapore?
11. Can Network Marketing operates in China? How many NM companies being setup in China today? Do you think Questnet is legal in China today?
12. If one country banned Questnet, do you think this applies to all others 180+ countries around the world?
13. Can you trust everything being reported in Newspaper or Website?
14. Who are the composers for the news?
15. Did Questnet register their business in Malaysia (business registration)?
16. Did Questnet register their MLM business in Malaysia?
17. LASTLY, QUESTNET ILLEGAL IN MALAYSIA?

Erubus
23-09-2006, 11:00 AM
Wonder is this how your upline teach you to answer. Anyway the answers you gave to my questions are quite frankly lousy and you sound childish.

You have avoided answering my question regarding direct sales license issued for wellness supplements but its being (mis)used? for coins. That has nothing to do with a customer service center and backbone infrastructure.



This means Vijay Eswaran is NOT CRIMINAL as shown in the website because he can mingle around with powerful person. If he is criminal, he should HIDE in the DARK not EXPOSE under LIGHT!

Orchy pointed out

Btw...remember Tan Sri Eric Chia...? He was seen with the previous PM and many renown world leaders too...doing more than handshaking them n sitting besides them...or what? Isn't he on trial now...?


Very simple logic,
Says, Royal Mint Malaysia issue a Mahathir Coin limited edition for 1000 pcs with Fine Gold 999.9
What do you think is the value if
a) Royal Mint asked Sykt ABC S/B to endorse the product
b) Royal Mint endorsed themself (which is stupid!! No one make and claimed themself)
c) Royal Mint asked Malaysia Government to endorse
d) Royal Mint asked Kingdom of Thailand to endorse

If product, mint, endorsing, bank are all LOCAL... what is the value to international market? Only Malaysian will buy it.

That is still a lousy argument. It is endorsed by countries that either
a) have less population then subang jaya (Cook islands???)
b) less population then kl (kingdom of bhutan?! where the heck is that?)
c) unstable country (somalia?!)

So how is it valuable when 99% of the worlds population have never even heard of cook island and bhutan? somalia is thanks to black hawk down.

And if it is minted by say malaysian mint or what is it in malaysia that does these coins? or take US mint for example. It would still hold value because its recognise by an establish country and governmetn


As for FIFA Commemarative coins, GOLDQUEST has become one of the Distributor for Fifa commemorative coins. As as Singapore Mint
http://www.getformesingapore.com/pr... llectibles.htm
This is the flyer of Fifa coin
http://www.goldquest.com/product_fl...FWPS8_flyer.jpg
I don't understand why you say... I would like to point out that GQ's Fifa commemarative coins are not on FIFA's official coin list? If Goldquest falsely stated this information, they can be sued and close shop forever! I hope you are right, so people will take action against Goldquest!

Please look at fifa.com website and their numismatic programme and tell me where is GQ shown?
http://www.fifa.com/en/history/centennialsection/0,1281,6,00.html
You can't argue with their official list right?

And also you can get license to use their trademark for internal circulation such as GQ hence its not recognise by public.


C) If a company is illegal its not its employee's fault. As long as they're being paid to work and that's all it matters nowadays. Afterall the law won't bring them to court for working there. Its the directors bottom that's on the line.
Same here, their staff could be one of us staying in USJ. Same as my example in previous post! People pointing QN is "illegal" eventhough licensed. What do you think this means to people working for this company? Do you think they won't feel hurt? If I am pointing your company is "ILLEGAL" with licensed, are you happy? Use your brain before opening your mouth.


i was quoting you
c) Until today, Questnet office still around with EMPLOYEES working... Don't they think they are in risk working with illegal company? I have never once mentioned QN is legal on my own without quoting what was said. I merely said is it legal to use a legal direct sales license issued for health supplements for coins? Please check back before arguing.

how come your arguments are mostly baseless and irrevelant?

And here i quote you
Use your brain before opening your mouth.



D) JR Mayer is not a partner of Questnet. ITS PART OF QN since 2000 after QN bought them.
JRMayer since 1871 has been bought by QI (1998) which means QN is SUPER RICH!!! You have made a good point !!!
Hahaha! LoL .

I don't quite understand what you're trying to prove here. They're basicly investing in a business to build another business which at this point looks to be on very shaky grounds.

Oh and in case you didnt know i was quoting you

d) JR Mayer Mint, 1871 partner with Questnet in minting numismatic products for Questnet for distribution.

i was merely pointing out that what you have said previously is wrong. And your argument is? I am right and you're wrong? Hmmm...


E) No idea what case study by microsoft is suppose to mean.
Which means, microsoft.com posted their information in part of their Case study is not a small thing. They are SO MANY customers of Microsoft, why goldquest? Bill gates is SUPER RICH MAN... Microsoft is so much richer than QN.... they can actually not bother to waste their time for 1 customer... If QN is not strong, they won't get the highlight! Again, this SHOWS QN IS SUPER POWER!!!! .

Can you please point us to where this alleged case study of QN is located so we can all enlighten ourselfs. I'm sure it would be somewhere on QN website or Microsoft website.

And why are you so hype up about a case study bout QN? Case study is done on all type of businesses.


F) Look at it this way. If Mr. Director of company so and so want to sponsor a meal for entire Malaysia Football Association. Would they decline it?
GOOD POINT IF THEY ARE LEGAL COMPANY. If VIJAY IS MAFIA, selling drugs, running illicit trades, do you think these ppl will bother to get their picture taken with them??? They have their TEAM INVESTIGATE QN FIRST before any deal being DONE! Not simply take offer like they are addicted/begging for money of sponsorship! Somemore, these are international events ie. FIFA, Olympic, IBF!!!!!.

Well as i said its an promotional/advertising campaign to sponsor big ticket events.

Refer to your own site
http://www.quest.net/DesktopDefault.aspx?tabindex=0&tabid=10&subtabid=79&newsId=1034&NewsType=2
It says they sponsor brazil training camp. So it is more then enuf to get on the tables with those guys. Don't you think so? If company A is a holding company which deals with optical disc and has a subsidiary company B that deals with child pornography, If company A sponsored the same team do you think they would be able to have dinner with the team? So does it means that brazil team condone child pornography?



G) Its called sponsorship. And when you sponsor you can request that a representative from your sponsoring company to be present for award ceremony. Even if medal presentation. Whats the Partnership with Punch Gunalan and Rudy Hartono about?
Since you are so clever searching google, you don't know Goldquest made Rudy Hartono coin set approved by Punch Gunalan, IBF? THey are not awarding medals, BUT RUDY HARTONO allowing his face minted on the COIN SET minted by JRMAYER distributed by Goldquest! Is this called partnership or sponsorship?

My bad. I didnt read it properly. Yes QN/QI is partnered with IBF because they sponsored the games?

And please show us where is thie coin set with Rudy Hartono face on it? It must be a new product that JR MEYER website doesnt have it and Goldquest website doesnt have it. It has watch and a pendant dats labelled QI-IBF.

Erubus
23-09-2006, 11:24 AM
Now... why no one answer my questions???? I have questions and waiting for answers... please help me out...


1. What do you know about Pyramid Scheme? Can you define it by law not by shape? Which law in Malaysia that refers to Pyramid Scheme?
-Pyramid scheme and network marketing is very closely resemble each other. So its kind of a grey area nowadays.
-Theres a very very fine line between those 2. I believe theres a directsellingmalaysia website of some sort around. Those are the guidelines.

2. Is Network Marketing or MLM businesses are illegal?
-Network marketing or MLM business is legal in malaysia as long as you possess a Direct Selling Act (DSA) license.

3. What is the difference between a MLM business plan and a pyramid scheme?
-Very grey area.
-Its more of a buyer beware.

4. What is the difference between Questnet plan and other MLM plan i.e. Amway?
-There are several type of plans.
They're binary, step ladder and i cant remember. No idea what is QN plan. I've only studied their products and not their plans thus i've not talked about the plan on this thread i started.

5. Which part of Questnet plan falls into Pyramid Scheme plan?
-No idea. Do they fall into that category?

6. IS Questnet running the same plan or different plan in Malaysia and Singapore?
-Probably the same plan in every country. Things that might defer is the currency use. When you are looking into MLM pls do not be misleaded by claims that they earn in USD or any other currency. Basicly its a percentage of the products price even if you convert the product to our local currency and convert the commision to local currency.

7. What is the definition of Pyramid Scheme in Singapore?
- I believe defination of PS is also a grey area. Most companies that have DSA license would thread softly on the thin line between PS and Legitimate MLM company. And sometimes its the mentality of the networkers involve that tarnished their names. Take for example Amway. They were a huge success in the beginning but slowly the networkers changed abit here and there thus the image of the company is tarnished.

8. Singapore, a top 20 strictest countries in the world, do you think it has a slight chance of corruption ??
- Let put it this way. Humans have desire and wants and when you hit the right buttons why wont there be corruption?

9. How many MLM companies being approved by Singapore compared to Malaysia?
-I've no idea bout SG but theres about 400+ in malaysia. You can lookup the list on ministry of domestic trade website.
Theres many category for DSA license. MLM is only part of Direct Sales. Traditional direct sales are door to door salesman selling products.

10. Do you think under a strict observation from Singapore government will allow Questnet operates in Singapore?
- MLM companies thread on a very thin line. If you have all the legal means to justify your companies operations then they have no reason to deny you license. Afterall the company still have to pay taxes to the government.

11. Can Network Marketing operates in China? How many NM companies being setup in China today? Do you think Questnet is legal in China today?
-Some say China's door is closed. Some say its slightly opened. So i have seriously no idea on that. Unless you can shoot an email to the china govenrment in chinese.

12. If one country banned Questnet, do you think this applies to all others 180+ countries around the world?
- has there been that many countries around the world already?
- Probably not coz different country have different laws pertaining direct sales. And its still a fine line.

13. Can you trust everything being reported in Newspaper or Website?
-yes and no. Do your own background search of the website. Newspaper? How often are newspaper used to wage battle between corporations?
So common sense should be applied.

14. Who are the composers for the news?
-That you would have to check with the news agency publishing that news article.

15. Did Questnet register their business in Malaysia (business registration)?
- Yes QN did register their company in malaysia.
I have found 2 companies register for questnet.
A) QN Global co. ref no. 656866-W
B) QUESTNET LTD co. ref no. 993949-P

16. Did Questnet register their MLM business in Malaysia?
-Yes and No.
A) QN Global co. ref no. 656866-W is issuied DSA license because they(the registered company deals with wellness/food supplements.
B) QUESTNET LTD co. ref no. 993949-P is NOT issuied any DSA license and they deal with the coins and jewelry.
This is my main concern from my first post to now. Which have mainly gone unanswered.

17. LASTLY, QUESTNET ILLEGAL IN MALAYSIA?
- Questnet is a company registered in malaysia so it is a legal company.

observer30
23-09-2006, 02:12 PM
Wonder is this how your upline teach you to answer. Anyway the answers you gave to my questions are quite frankly lousy and you sound childish.


Too bad, I haven't join them so I don't have upline! :D LoL... But I can side any place... My best friend already changing car to BMW after joined QN for 4 years. I got my MLM biz running. But my involvement is more in my own retail shops. But this is a freespeech forum, whether I am QN member or not, I can still say it! haha! :D





Please look at fifa.com website and their numismatic programme and tell me where is GQ shown?
http://www.fifa.com/en/history/cent...,1281,6,00.html
You can't argue with their official list right?

And also you can get license to use their trademark for internal circulation such as GQ hence its not recognise by public.



The website you shown is NOT the same distributed coins as Goldquest currently distributed. Look here http://www.goldquest.com/product_flyer.aspx?flyerName=FWPS8_flyer.jpg

there are so many series of coins, not just ONE.

http://www.goldquest-ltd.com/DesktopDefault.aspx?Myurl=My_pcs&tabindex=23&tabid=12&subtabid=76&ColID=2&Prod_id=788

http://www.goldquest.com/product_detail.aspx?productID=1460

Look here, goldquest and singapore mint are distributing the same product! But different qty allocation.
The website you shown is 100 years FIFA Continental coins, and Singapre Mint is distributing it also at US$2000... or S$3200.
Are you saying Singapore Mint ILLEGALLY distributing FIFA Coin without being approved?
http://www.goldquest.com/product_detail_popup.aspx?Prod_id=687
http://www.singaporemint.com/product_info.php?products_id=334
http://www.goldquest.com/product_flyer.aspx?flyerName=FFCC8_flyer.jpg

FIFA has rights to appt their distributor... Do you think Goldquest DARE to sell FIFA products via INTERNET without FIFA's approval????????? Common sense, do you??




That is still a lousy argument. It is endorsed by countries that either
a) have less population then subang jaya (Cook islands???)
b) less population then kl (kingdom of bhutan?! where the heck is that?)
c) unstable country (somalia?!)

So how is it valuable when 99% of the worlds population have never even heard of cook island and bhutan? somalia is thanks to black hawk down.

And if it is minted by say malaysian mint or what is it in malaysia that does these coins? or take US mint for example. It would still hold value because its recognise by an establish country and governmetn


PATHETIC!! Condemn other countries, you are no.1!
Guess what other nationality said about Malaysian??? If you don't respect them, they won't respect us! Please mind your language when you write in public forum!







My bad. I didnt read it properly. Yes QN/QI is partnered with IBF because they sponsored the games?

And please show us where is thie coin set with Rudy Hartono face on it? It must be a new product that JR MEYER website doesnt have it and Goldquest website doesnt have it. It has watch and a pendant dats labelled QI-IBF.



http://www.jrmayercollections.com/gqinet/images/products/product_RHCM1_front.jpg


Rudy Hartono Medallion


Diameter : 38.6 mm
Weight : 10.00 g
Content : Fine Gold 999.9
Quality : Proof
Edge : Plain with serial number engraved
Issue Year : 2003
Limited Mintage : 2999
Endorsing Authority : International Badminton Federation / Rudy Hartono Foundation
Series : Sports Legend

observer30
23-09-2006, 02:34 PM
snipped....

16. Did Questnet register their MLM business in Malaysia?
-Yes and No.
A) QN Global co. ref no. 656866-W is issuied DSA license because they(the registered company deals with wellness/food supplements.
B) QUESTNET LTD co. ref no. 993949-P is NOT issuied any DSA license and they deal with the coins and jewelry.
This is my main concern from my first post to now. Which have mainly gone unanswered.

17. LASTLY, QUESTNET ILLEGAL IN MALAYSIA?
- Questnet is a company registered in malaysia so it is a legal company.



In summary, you are not clear about the plan... relationship between direct selling, MLM, pyramid, ponzi, skim cepat kaya, main kutu, etc.
You may be too fresh from school, or never associate with MLM friends, or being involved in any MLM business.
THerefore it's GREY area to you. BUt Pyramid and MLM has a VERY CLEAR cut!

In summary, Questnet is customer service centre where doesn't require to have DSA license.
QN Global distribute health care products with MLM plan, therefore it's required to have DSA license.
Read about Direct Sales Act 1993 and understand more about it. Whichever licenses that required Questnet to carry, they have already done their part. It could be our LAW is not UP to DATE. If you are talking about Direct Purchase from Internet, this does not cover under DSA. People can buy computer parts via Dell.COm, People can buy books via Amazon.com, people can buy Coins via Quest.Net, People can buy anything from any part of world as long as legal to import into Malaysia. And these are NOT COVER UNDER DSA. People who are carrying bags selling toothbrushes door to door, YES - direct sales. Mail Order, yes Direct Sales. In Singapore, It's MLM License. Questnet will consult local authorities for licensing. They are better in protecting themselves first before running the business. Of coz, smart businessmen will do it legally. That's why they are SO RICH TODAY!! And people are still talking about it TODAY that they are ________!!

orchipalar
23-09-2006, 03:00 PM
2006/06/13

Multi Level Marketing : Buying the CRAP you don't need
Author: webmaster (5:46 pm)

Here is an issue I can't get it out of my head. Network Marketing or Multi Level Marketing (MLM). I don't care if anyone of you care about reading this or objecting to it. I am going to post it up anyway.

This company is selling Numismatic gold coins which means limited and valuable going coins. You need to pay RM2500 or less to buy the gold. Once you bought them, you're a member. Then you will need to look for another victim to buy the gold cause. Only then you will be able to earn money that way. Its a pure pyramid kacang putih scheme.

What a minute? What do I do with this gold coin? NOTHING! The gold coin is just a crap that you don't need. Its not even valuable. The gold is only few ounces and if you bring it to kedai emas, they pay you in cents and tell you that it as no value in market.

Now this Questn*t Ltd is starting to spread in Sarawak. It existed long time ago but why now? Because its already a rotten business in peninsular and most people knew how crappy it was.

Then some smartass decided to bring the scheme over to Sarawak cause people in Sarawak are very fresh. I experienced this in KL and was sort of into it but l was so lucky to realise that this "earn money scheme" is just slowly eating me up.

1st thing, these people attended talks and seminars and coaching. They are specially trained in a way that they can brainwash you.

Once you're brainwash, you will deny facts and you will on hallucinate about your dream. They make you dream about how your life can be compare to your current life.

They tell you all sorts of stories about successful people that you never heard of. Its just pure propaganda.

If you decided to join this Qestnet Ltd Crap, I would like to congratulate you for isolating yourself from the real world and losing your friends and family.

If you have any questions about that scheme, please do shoot me with me. I will tell based on my experience. This is just a brief description about the scheme, I can write 100 pages about it.

http://www.catscity.com.my/modules/weblog/details.php?blog_id=160

Err...perhaps those involved could take a lesson or two...from one of your former colleagues...

observer30
23-09-2006, 07:00 PM
Besides coins, got other stuff.... Questnet is not sell coins only... by the way, one of your family member will use MLM products anyhow..... haha! If it's not you, your wife, daughter, relatives, brothers, friends, etc.... for sure, one house kena one MLM products!! LoL :D

Not all are craps!! By the way, doctor recommend to eat fujita Lactose-S for colon cleansing distributed by Elken. Well... doctor won't promote craps, right? :D LoL

Once, Pensonic also got MLM plan. Prepaid card got MLM plan. Diamond water system also got MLM plan. If you are anti-MLM, so... you are isolating yourself from good products! Because the advantages of MLM products not being sold to hypermarket like Giant is because of their quality! LoL :D

diablo
23-09-2006, 10:00 PM
After reading the full article I think the writer is specifically unhappy with Questnet not MLM in general. There are a lot of good MLM companies out there. I think if a company has superb products, half the battle is won. They have sound fundamentals and can always go retail so question of integrity is not so great. Given the wide choice of good 'clean' companies out there why would one not look beyond Questnet. If you want to play safe look towards highly consumable product-based companies. In fact if you look at the great stabil MLM companies that have been around for ages they are ALL product based specifically they have their own R&D so they are always able to give you unique cutting edge products. Look at Amway, Herbalife, NuSkin etc..
Ask yourself this.. is the products unique or is it just an excuse to legalize the business. If its just an excuse than be weary.. if they do not have R&D resources than they're just buying from GMP factory and jumping on the bandwagon giving you 'me-too' products. If its not consumeable it's even worse as you have no retail customer base. You're earning USD20k this month but because of a festive month next month your network takes a break and your income drops to USD2-3k. Trust me a lot of people have gone through this. In conclusion MLM is a legit business but choose carefully since we do have a wide selection fortunately in Malaysia.

o_nez
23-09-2006, 10:15 PM
http://www.goldquestltd.com/images/lead_index_new.jpg

observer30
24-09-2006, 08:45 AM
http://152.101.20.75/massmail/qnn/issue27/img/headline_pic.jpg

http://152.101.20.75/massmail/qnn/issue27/img/ibfpicture_2.jpg

HTtp://152.101.20.75/massmail/qnn/issue27/img/ibfpicture_3.jpg

Haha... I saw this in TV... I like badminton... great show... this QI must spent alot of money here... LoL :D

Erubus
24-09-2006, 09:36 AM
In summary, you are not clear about the plan... relationship between direct selling, MLM, pyramid, ponzi, skim cepat kaya, main kutu, etc.
You may be too fresh from school, or never associate with MLM friends, or being involved in any MLM business.
THerefore it's GREY area to you. BUt Pyramid and MLM has a VERY CLEAR cut!

In summary, Questnet is customer service centre where doesn't require to have DSA license.
QN Global distribute health care products with MLM plan, therefore it's required to have DSA license.
Read about Direct Sales Act 1993 and understand more about it. Whichever licenses that required Questnet to carry, they have already done their part. It could be our LAW is not UP to DATE. If you are talking about Direct Purchase from Internet, this does not cover under DSA. People can buy computer parts via Dell.COm, People can buy books via Amazon.com, people can buy Coins via Quest.Net, People can buy anything from any part of world as long as legal to import into Malaysia. And these are NOT COVER UNDER DSA. People who are carrying bags selling toothbrushes door to door, YES - direct sales. Mail Order, yes Direct Sales. In Singapore, It's MLM License. Questnet will consult local authorities for licensing. They are better in protecting themselves first before running the business. Of coz, smart businessmen will do it legally. That's why they are SO RICH TODAY!! And people are still talking about it TODAY that they are ________!!


Observer30 please explain on
1. What do you know about Pyramid Scheme? Can you define it by law not by shape? Which law in Malaysia that refers to Pyramid Scheme?
2. Is Network Marketing or MLM businesses are illegal?
3. What is the difference between a MLM business plan and a pyramid scheme?
4. What is the difference between Questnet plan and other MLM plan i.e. Amway?
5. Which part of Questnet plan falls into Pyramid Scheme plan?
7. What is the definition of Pyramid Scheme in Singapore?
9. How many MLM companies being approved by Singapore compared to Malaysia?
10. Do you think under a strict observation from Singapore government will allow Questnet operates in Singapore?
11. Can Network Marketing operates in China? How many NM companies being setup in China today? Do you think Questnet is legal in China today?


oh and lastly


The website you shown is NOT the same distributed coins as Goldquest currently distributed. Look here http://www.goldquest.com/product_fl...FWPS8_flyer.jpg

there are so many series of coins, not just ONE.

http://www.goldquest-ltd.com/Deskto...D=2&Prod_id=788

http://www.goldquest.com/product_de...?productID=1460

Look here, goldquest and singapore mint are distributing the same product! But different qty allocation.
The website you shown is 100 years FIFA Continental coins, and Singapre Mint is distributing it also at US$2000... or S$3200.
Are you saying Singapore Mint ILLEGALLY distributing FIFA Coin without being approved?
http://www.goldquest.com/product_de...spx?Prod_id=687
http://www.singaporemint.com/produc...products_id=334
http://www.goldquest.com/product_fl...FFCC8_flyer.jpg

FIFA has rights to appt their distributor... Do you think Goldquest DARE to sell FIFA products via INTERNET without FIFA's approval????????? Common sense, do you??

is The 2006 FIFA World Cup™ Prestige Set found in anywhere else other then QN/GQ? What is the market value and what is the price of it being sold?

And what is the price and market value of 100 YEARS OF FIFA COIN SET SERIES III sold at GQ/QN?
http://www.goldquest-ltd.com/DesktopDefault.aspx?Myurl=My_pcs&tabindex=23&tabid=12&subtabid=76&ColID=2&Prod_id=788


In summary, you are not clear about the plan... relationship between direct selling, MLM, pyramid, ponzi, skim cepat kaya, main kutu, etc.
You may be too fresh from school, or never associate with MLM friends, or being involved in any MLM business.
THerefore it's GREY area to you. BUt Pyramid and MLM has a VERY CLEAR cut!


I will chose to ignore a personal attack. :)



In summary, Questnet is customer service centre where doesn't require to have DSA license.
QN Global distribute health care products with MLM plan, therefore it's required to have DSA license.
Read about Direct Sales Act 1993 and understand more about it. Whichever licenses that required Questnet to carry, they have already done their part. It could be our LAW is not UP to DATE. If you are talking about Direct Purchase from Internet, this does not cover under DSA. People can buy computer parts via Dell.COm, People can buy books via Amazon.com, people can buy Coins via Quest.Net, People can buy anything from any part of world as long as legal to import into Malaysia. And these are NOT COVER UNDER DSA. People who are carrying bags selling toothbrushes door to door, YES - direct sales. Mail Order, yes Direct Sales. In Singapore, It's MLM License. Questnet will consult local authorities for licensing. They are better in protecting themselves first before running the business. Of coz, smart businessmen will do it legally. That's why they are SO RICH TODAY!! And people are still talking about it TODAY that they are ________!!

So ... GoldQuest is not registered with malaysia and QuestNet have no DSA License to sell Coins in Malaysia via MLM but because it is a website on the internet selling Coins to the global market so it is alrite? Is that what you mean?

orchipalar
24-09-2006, 10:06 AM
http://152.101.20.75/massmail/qnn/issue27/img/headline_pic.jpg

http://152.101.20.75/massmail/qnn/issue27/img/ibfpicture_2.jpg

HTtp://152.101.20.75/massmail/qnn/issue27/img/ibfpicture_3.jpg

Haha... I saw this in TV... I like badminton... great show... this QI must spent alot of money here... LoL :DErr...it's called cheap advertizing...

Should worldwide sponsorship of sporting events by tobacco n liquor companies were still being allowed...QI would NOT possibly be able to afford to do any...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobacco_advertising

orchipalar
24-09-2006, 10:12 AM
http://www.goldquestltd.com/images/lead_index_new.jpg
Err...one of those faces is looking familiar...

Could it be the same person...? (http://www.networknewsagency.com/?nav=var&id=21)

http://www.networknewsagency.com/weboffice/pub/_IMAGES/mugshot_vj.jpg

orchipalar
24-09-2006, 10:41 AM
Err...speaking of sponsorship...on a more serious note...

Proton spent 70 millions Euro to be the major sponsor for MV Agusta... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MV_Agusta)n eventually Proton gain the BEST exposure...which was later valued at 1 Euro..

All in the name of advertizing...

orchipalar
24-09-2006, 10:57 AM
How about I ask you Questions and you answer them all?

1. What do you know about Pyramid Scheme? Can you define it by law not by shape? Which law in Malaysia that refers to Pyramid Scheme?Err...the Hong Kong Police has this to say about Pyramid Schemes..."Common Con-Tricks"

http://www.info.gov.hk/police/hkp-home/english/cpb/comms.htm

Err...the Malaysian Police has this advice against Skim Cepat Kaya...

"Jangan Biarkan Anda Tertipu

Ramai orang tertipu kerana tamak. Hendak cepat kaya dengan cara yang mudah. Sifat tamak ini dipergunakan oleh penipu untuk mempengaruhi mangsanya. Sebab itu Skim Cepat Kaya mudah menarik perhatian walaupun ramai mengetahui cara ianya beroperasi, penipuan yang dilakukan dan akibat y ang akan dihadapi.

i) Bagaimana Mencegahnya

* jangan bersifat tamak. Tidak ada jalan mudah untuk mencari wang/kekayaan tanpa berusaha;
* jangan mudah percaya janji-janji untuk mendapatkan pulangan segera dan tidak masuk akal;
* pastikan peluang perniagaan yang ditawar/dijanjikan munasabah;
* jangan mudah terpedaya dengan skim-skim pelaburan, Skim Cepat Kaya dan sebagainya yang menjanjikan pulangan yang tinggi dalam masa yang singkat dan tidak berdasarkan hakikat ekonomi sebenar;
* jangan mudah menyerahkan wang atau barang-barang berharga kepada orang dikenali atau yang baru dikenali tanpa sebarang perjanjian; dan
* dapatkan pandangan orang-orang yang mahir dalam bidang tertentu seperti perundangan dan kewangan sebelum membuat sesuatu pelaburan."

http://www.rmp.gov.my/rmpnew/rmp/menarikhtml/tipscegahright.htm

orchipalar
24-09-2006, 11:22 AM
15. Did Questnet register their business in Malaysia (business registration)?
17. LASTLY, QUESTNET ILLEGAL IN MALAYSIA?Err...comparing it to the earlier example...in the case of Chicken Inc.(1234567-X)...a similar example came to mind...G-Gold Gallery Sdn Bhd was incorporated in Malaysia...but the legality issue of its core business activities...is of a totally different matter...

"G-Gold Gallery Sdn Bhd ( 573144-T )

G-Gold Gallery Sdn. Bhd evolved as a partnership firm in 2000 and incorporated in March 2002 under the Companies Act 1965. G-Gold Gallery has grown to be recognized as one of the leading gold trading companies in Malaysia with expanding investment and trading in South East Asia.

G-Gold Gallery’s core business includes investment in gold, production of fine gold ornaments, bullion bars and gold dinars (internationally recognized by the Islamic Mint)."

http://72.14.235.104/search?q=cache:WlHprVJGNZsJ:ggoldgallery.com/about_us.htm+g-goldgallery&hl=en&gl=my&ct=clnk&cd=3&client=firefox-a

Eventually...the company was raided investigated jointly by the Bank Negara Malaysia n PDRM...

"Bank Negara Malaysia investigating G-Gold Gallery Sdn Bhd

Members of the public are reminded not to be involved in any get rich quick scheme to avoid losing their hard earned money. For further inquiries, members of the public may contact officials of Bank Negara Malaysia at telephone number 03-2698 8044 ext. 8622, 7205, 8518, 7276, or 8439.

Bank Negara Malaysia
11 May 2006"

http://www.bnm.gov.my/index.php?ch=8&pg=14&ac=1233&print=1

orchipalar
24-09-2006, 11:55 AM
In summary, Questnet is customer service centre where doesn't require to have DSA license.
QN Global distribute health care products with MLM plan, therefore it's required to have DSA license.

They are better in protecting themselves first before running the business. Of coz, smart businessmen will do it legally. That's why they are SO RICH TODAY!! And people are still talking about it TODAY that they are ________!!Err...can't even find QN Global in the list of DSAM membership...yet.

http://dsam.org.my/list.html

It has however...a reminder for the general public...about Pyramid Scheme...

http://dsam.org.my/pyramid.html

iemazainQN
04-10-2006, 03:04 PM
saya rs buang masa utk berbicara dgn or spt ini. Sentiasa -ve dlm keadaan yg tdk berilmu. Kesian... Senang, report sj pd pihak berkuasa utk jln terbaik.

To orchipalar : when u said about "cheap advertising", can i know what is expensive advertising? HEllooo... sponsor a international event like this a cheap advertising??

Qi is Mother Company
Quest Net and QN Global adalah antara 23 buah anak syarikat Qi yang lain. Nak tahu anak2 syarikat Qi yang lain, --> www.qi-ltd.com


Sudah tentu di register mengikut jenis perniagaan masing2. QN Global adalah anak syarikat yang berkonsepkan direct selling.

Senang, report je la... Dlm pd itu kami sentiasa maju dan sentiasa bertambah kukuh dan semakin make money.. yg negatif, ttp begitu, tiada perubahan dlm hidup.. Kesian dkt org yg dkt bwh ni semua kerana ditipu dlm bisnes ini atau kan?? Come on la beb..... FIKIRLA :cool:

http://www.goldcoins-biz.com/images/PM.JPG
Http://photos.friendster.com/photos/82/87/447828/34432562830812m.jpg
http://photos.friendster.com/photos/82/87/447828/34962545163971l.jpg
http://photos.friendster.com/photos/82/87/447828/34962957743744l.jpg
http://photos.friendster.com/photos/82/87/447828/34962855429491l.jpg
http://photos.friendster.com/photos/82/87/447828/34962825031257l.jpg

iemazainQN
04-10-2006, 03:25 PM
To public.... Another people yang tertipu dlm Quest Net... Kesian kan.. Mereka ni tertipu, kamu QN family make money and help others..

http://photos.friendster.com/photos/82/87/447828/34962767115631l.jpg
http://photos.friendster.com/photos/82/87/447828/34962583613563l.jpg
http://photos.friendster.com/photos/82/87/447828/34962395357848l.jpg
http://photos.friendster.com/photos/82/87/447828/34962311162060l.jpg
http://www.goldcoins-biz.com/images/vijay_pope.JPG

=RYTHM= Raise Yourself To help Mankind =RYTHM=

iemazainQN
04-10-2006, 05:16 PM
Err...can't even find QN Global in the list of DSAM membership...yet.

http://dsam.org.my/list.html

It has however...a reminder for the general public...about Pyramid Scheme...

http://dsam.org.my/pyramid.html


Hellooo... Pls check this ==>
http://www.kpdnhep.gov.my/index?cpath=65_80_551&pub=Senarai_Penuh_Syarikat_Jualan_Langsung_sah

And try check under "SENARAI SYARIKAT YANG MEMILIKI LESEN JUALAN LANGSUNG SAH SEHINGGA APRIL 2006 ( BERBILANG TINGKAT )" no 268???

Ahaha.. Kesian..

o_nez
04-10-2006, 09:14 PM
If the Malaysia authorities were to make a careful investigation, they might find that QN Global was actually set up by GoldQuest /QI/ QuestNet to get around the "fact" that GoldQuest / QuestNet could not legally operate its Pyramid-Selling Business in Malaysia...

...and the Malaysia authorities might find that QN Global has been used by GoldQuest /QI/ QuestNet as a means to conduct the GoldQuest / QuestNet Pyramid-Selling Business in Malaysia illegally.

Perhaps, the setting up of QN Global was a clever way for GoldQuest /QI/ QuestNet to attempt to come into Malaysia legally through a "back window", since, in fact, GoldQuest / QuestNet had been operating its "business" in Malaysia all along without actual legal approval.

Erubus' questions about the curious relationship between QN Global and GoldQuest /QI/ QuestNet are right on target!!
.

orchipalar
04-10-2006, 09:36 PM
Hellooo... Pls check this ==>
http://www.kpdnhep.gov.my/index?cpa...an_Langsung_sah

And try check under "SENARAI SYARIKAT YANG MEMILIKI LESEN JUALAN LANGSUNG SAH SEHINGGA APRIL 2006 ( BERBILANG TINGKAT )" no 268???

Ahaha.. Kesian..
If the Malaysia authorities were to make a careful investigation, they might find that QN Global was actually set up by GoldQuest /QI/ QuestNet to get around the "fact" that GoldQuest / QuestNet could not legally operate its Pyramid-Selling Business in Malaysia...

...and the Malaysia authorities might find that QN Global has been used by GoldQuest /QI/ QuestNet as a means to conduct the GoldQuest / QuestNet Pyramid-Selling Business in Malaysia illegally.

Perhaps, the setting up of QN Global was a clever way for GoldQuest /QI/ QuestNet to attempt to come into Malaysia legally through a "back window", since, in fact, GoldQuest / QuestNet had been operating its "business" in Malaysia all along without actual legal approval.

Erubus' questions about the curious relationship between QN Global and GoldQuest /QI/ QuestNet are right on target!!
.Err...in which case...it could be true to the saying..."qua yang tou mai kou rou..."

http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/upload/showpost.php?p=175017&postcount=86

Ahem...which means..."gantung kepala kambing...tetapi disebalik nya...daging anjing yang di jual pulak..."

Err...kesian...

orchipalar
04-10-2006, 09:47 PM
saya rs buang masa utk berbicara dgn or spt ini. Sentiasa -ve dlm keadaan yg tdk berilmu. Kesian...

Qi is Mother Company
Quest Net and QN Global adalah antara 23 buah anak syarikat Qi yang lain. Nak tahu anak2 syarikat Qi yang lain, --> www.qi-ltd.com

Senang, report je la... Dlm pd itu kami sentiasa maju dan sentiasa bertambah kukuh dan semakin make money.. yg negatif, ttp begitu, tiada perubahan dlm hidup.. Kesian dkt org yg dkt bwh ni semua kerana ditipu dlm bisnes ini atau kan?? Come on la beb..... FIKIRLAErr...if you are TOTALLY convinced about it...why then do you need to waste your time...again n again...n why the need to be so defensive n sarcastic...?

Ahem...but thanks for the pictures which show some curious VIPs visiting some booth setup by exhibitors...to display probably nothing but misleading 'publicity stunts'...

orchipalar
04-10-2006, 09:54 PM
To public.... Another people yang tertipu dlm Quest Net... Kesian kan.. Mereka ni tertipu, kamu QN family make money and help others..
http://www.goldcoins-biz.com/images/vijay_pope.JPG

Err...hoping that is NOT an attempt to humiliate n abuse the reputation of the Vatican by someone whom might have resorted to get that far....to publicise 'a gift'...

Erubus
04-10-2006, 11:49 PM
Hellooo... Pls check this ==>
http://www.kpdnhep.gov.my/index?cpath=65_80_551&pub=Senarai_Penuh_Syarikat_Jualan_Langsung_sah

And try check under "SENARAI SYARIKAT YANG MEMILIKI LESEN JUALAN LANGSUNG SAH SEHINGGA APRIL 2006 ( BERBILANG TINGKAT )" no 268???

Ahaha.. Kesian..


hi iemazainQN.
Just in case you missed what i said


15. Did Questnet register their business in Malaysia (business registration)?
- Yes QN did register their company in malaysia.
I have found 2 companies register for questnet.
A) QN Global co. ref no. 656866-W
B) QUESTNET LTD co. ref no. 993949-P

16. Did Questnet register their MLM business in Malaysia?
-Yes and No.
A) QN Global co. ref no. 656866-W is issuied DSA license because they(the registered company deals with wellness/food supplements.
B) QUESTNET LTD co. ref no. 993949-P is NOT issuied any DSA license and they deal with the coins and jewelry.
This is my main concern from my first post to now. Which have mainly gone unanswered.

Your reference to no.268 on http://www.kpdnhep.gov.my/index?cpath=65_80_551&pub=Senarai_Penuh_Syarikat_Jualan_Langsung_sah
is for QN Global.
Please show me Questnet LTD with the co. ref. no. 993949-P

Again QN Global website is www.qn-global.com
Its listed in your contact us section with that company name.

And GoldQuest? With no company registered in malaysia is dealing with a commodity package as a Limited Edition collector's item with a mark up on a commodity of over 300%.

It smell like S**T, it looks like S**T, it feels like S**T.
Anyone wanna volunteer to stick their tongue out to taste it?
If it smell and look like S**T don't taste it just to confirm it.
It smell like scam, looks like scam, feels like scam.
Should anyone volunteer to fork out their hard earn money to try?

Erubus
04-10-2006, 11:53 PM
http://www.goldcoins-biz.com/images/vijay_pope.JPG

Err...hoping that is NOT an attempt to humiliate n abuse the reputation of the Vatican by someone whom might have resorted to get that far....to publicise 'a gift'...


and i have already question those coins that feature the pope.
How come its not endorsed by the vatican if you are showing us a picture of Mr. V with the pope?

Don't use the name of christianity in vain pls.

janggoatsQN
05-10-2006, 11:43 AM
If the Malaysia authorities were to make a careful investigation, they might find that QN Global was actually set up by GoldQuest /QI/ QuestNet to get around the "fact" that GoldQuest / QuestNet could not legally operate its Pyramid-Selling Business in Malaysia...

...and the Malaysia authorities might find that QN Global has been used by GoldQuest /QI/ QuestNet as a means to conduct the GoldQuest / QuestNet Pyramid-Selling Business in Malaysia illegally.

Perhaps, the setting up of QN Global was a clever way for GoldQuest /QI/ QuestNet to attempt to come into Malaysia legally through a "back window", since, in fact, GoldQuest / QuestNet had been operating its "business" in Malaysia all along without actual legal approval.

Dear sir o_nez FYI Qi expanding their business. QN Global is one of their subsidiaries. They are selling health product and yes they are direct selling but!!! Qi did not using QN Global as what you state here..

If you are telling that QuestNet had been operating its business in Malaysia along without actual legal approval, why tell me why, why and why do we still stand firm>? You can see the pictures of our ex PM, Pak lah, even our AGONG support our business. If Questnet is illegal, pak lah already made statement telling that this thing is haram and illegal…

May be you did not get the clear picture and if can, why not we sit together and discuss about this….

Erubus' questions about the curious relationship between QN Global and GoldQuest /QI/ QuestNet are right on target!!
.
Dear sir o_nez FYI Qi expanding their business. QN Global is one of their subsidiaries. They are selling health product and yes they are direct selling but!!! Qi did not using QN Global as what you state here..

If you are telling that QuestNet had been operating its business in Malaysia along without actual legal approval, why tell me why, why and why do we still stand firm>? You can see the pictures of our ex PM, Pak lah, even our AGONG support our business. If Questnet is illegal, pak lah already made statement telling that this thing is haram and illegal…

May be you did not get the clear picture and if can, why not we sit together and discuss about this….

janggoatsQN
05-10-2006, 12:04 PM
http://www.goldcoins-biz.com/images/vijay_pope.JPG

Err...hoping that is NOT an attempt to humiliate n abuse the reputation of the Vatican by someone whom might have resorted to get that far....to publicise 'a gift'...

dear orchipalar.. Greetings from me new forumers... QN is not attempt to humiliate n abuse the reputation as you stated above.. you know who endorse the pope product?

 they endorse  Principat d'Andorra Servei d'Emissions (http://www.mintsoftheworld.com/andorramint.html )


i read this website about ANDORA.. you try baca the history of andora…
http://www.andorra.ad/ang/descobreix_andorra/historia_cultura/breu_historia_andorra.asp

that’s why the pope product is endorsed by Principat d'Andorra Servei d'Emissions ANDORA…

hope my explainations at least give you the clear picture.. and not to humiliate and abuse other religions…

and if you want to know more and get a clear picture, can we sit together and talk about it..

regards..
janggoatsQN

janggoatsQN
05-10-2006, 12:32 PM
hi iemazainQN.
Just in case you missed what i said



Your reference to no.268 on http://www.kpdnhep.gov.my/index?cpath=65_80_551&pub=Senarai_Penuh_Syarikat_Jualan_Langsung_sah
is for QN Global.
Please show me Questnet LTD with the co. ref. no. 993949-P

Again QN Global website is www.qn-global.com
Its listed in your contact us section with that company name.

And GoldQuest? With no company registered in malaysia is dealing with a commodity package as a Limited Edition collector's item with a mark up on a commodity of over 300%.

It smell like S**T, it looks like S**T, it feels like S**T.
Anyone wanna volunteer to stick their tongue out to taste it?
If it smell and look like S**T don't taste it just to confirm it.
It smell like scam, looks like scam, feels like scam.
Should anyone volunteer to fork out their hard earn money to try?

Dear mg Erubus… Greetings from me….

Please go to this website https://211.24.166.66/uni/findroc.php, 993949 (type this no.)

To answer your last question.. GOLDQUEST International Ltd is a multinational company recognised and accepted internationally as a reputable retailer of gold and luxury products with a head office in Hong Kong.

Aiyak.. sorry ar.. my English is not to good and please let me explain and answer it in malay…

Saya nak kasi satu contoh..

Katakan lah you ada beli satu produk di TESCO, GIANT etc.. contoh la, ada satu produk oversea let say made in Holland, dia tak ada pon company di Malaysia, tapi dia dijual dimalaysia.. adakah ianya salah? So yang register dimalaysia adalah TESCO, GIANT etc tadi… sama konsepnya dengan Questnet ni… dia pasarkan produk Goldquest…

from what i known mr erubus.. the markup price is lower than what you mention... and please note that some other product sold outside from their company 15 ringgit... but sold for 80 ringgit
how many percent is it sir??? count it your self...

and do you found any oother company or shop selling QN product>>>????
If you want clearer picture, we can sit together and discuss more about this..

Regards,
janggoatsQN

janggoatsQN
05-10-2006, 12:41 PM
sorry i missed something...

regarding the pope product... please take a look at this url

http://www.goldquest.com/product_detail.aspx?productID=1043

mahadsa
05-10-2006, 12:59 PM
Hebatlah forum ni... ada yang cakap kosong... ada yang cakap pandai... ada yang cakap tak serupa bikin... ada yang bodoh sombong...

iemazainQN
05-10-2006, 01:44 PM
Ya... forum ni mmg hebat... ia benar2 menguji ketahanan mental... :)

Ok, to answer any Q, ok, can i know again what is the main thing or main problem to u all about QN. I will try my best to answer.. But, be open. We think together about that either its true or not. And pls do not condemm other's business without knowing anything. Sbb dengan cara begitu, akn menimbulkn satu ketegangan dr kedua2 belah pihak.

Kpd orchipalar : actually u bkn nak tahu what is all about QN, but u just simply condemn and try nk provoke kpd ahli2 QN.

mahadsa
05-10-2006, 01:46 PM
Memang betul kata ERUBUS, ORCHIPALAR, O_NEZ dll. Korang patut dengar kata mereka. Jgn melawan, tak baik.

Kerana aku tak dengar kata mereka dan tak berhati2, aku pun dah terkena TIPU dengan syarikat QI, QuestNet dan Goldquest selama 3 tahun. Akibat dari PENIPUAN ini akaun Maybank aku penuh dengan duit. Kaya... kaya... kaya...

Aku harap korang jgnlah tertipu dengan company ni. Tolonglah percaya kata2 mereka yang bijak pandai ni.

FYi, company ni dah berani bawa balik business mrk ke Malaysia dan register dgn SSM atas nama WAWASAN QI HOLDINGS SDN. BHD. (720115-K) dan WAWASAN QI PROPERTIES SDN. BHD. (733462-W).

ERUBUS, ORCHIPALAR, O_NEZ tolonglah report kepada POLIS, TENTERA, JKR, BANK NEGARA, SSM, KEMENTERIAN PERDAGANGAN DALAM NEGERI DAN HAL EHWAL PENGGUNA sebelum ramai lagi rakyat Malaysia tertipu dengan syarikat ini.

iemazainQN
05-10-2006, 04:11 PM
http://kedahquestnet5.blogdrive.com/images/licences_20Questnet.jpg

Pd awal QI, hya ada gold quest, tp setelah company berkembang pesat dan bkn setakat coins, malah Quest vacation, Quest entertainment, Quest Investment, Quest Technology dlll, maka kita telah ditukarkan ke QUEST NET yg diregisterkn di Malaysia pd 2004.

HQ di Hongkong. Quest International sbg mother company...

janggoatsQN
05-10-2006, 06:03 PM
Err...one of those faces is looking familiar...

Could it be the same person...? (http://www.networknewsagency.com/?nav=var&id=21)

http://www.networknewsagency.com/weboffice/pub/_IMAGES/mugshot_vj.jpg


dude.. what kind of websites is this??? no contact number at all? just email.. stilll cannot see?? haiyoooo pitty you la... tak cukup bukti jangan la macam ni...

kamon la sedara... if you are gentleman enough lets discuss about this matter face to face.. not far maaa im staying in kelana jaya... i'll show you the prove...

contact me
0193328950

orchipalar
05-10-2006, 11:29 PM
http://kedahquestnet5.blogdrive.com/images/licences_20Questnet.jpg

Pd awal QI, hya ada gold quest, tp setelah company berkembang pesat dan bkn setakat coins, malah Quest vacation, Quest entertainment, Quest Investment, Quest Technology dlll, maka kita telah ditukarkan ke QUEST NET yg diregisterkn di Malaysia pd 2004.

HQ di Hongkong. Quest International sbg mother company...Err...why do they keep on changing names...

Could it be Gold Quest Marketing...?

Ahem...or perhaps Old dogs...with New tricks? (http://www.bbc.co.uk/consumer/tv_and_radio/olddogs_newtricks/timeshares.shtml)

Oh btw...perhaps you may wanna see whether you could find the contact numbers to this renown website...http://www.bbc.co.uk/insideout/south/series9/week_nine.shtml

o_nez
06-10-2006, 12:21 AM
Thank you for your advice and encouragement, Obeserver30.

The Topic of this Forum is: QuestNet LTD / GoldQuest. What is it about?

This is what we are discussing here. It is not about "destroying" GoldQuest /QI/ QuestNet or anything else, except maybe remedying the "ignorance" and "lack of knowledge" about the true nature and true character of GoldQuest /QI/ QuestNet.

This Topic is a genuine attempt to find out the Truth about GoldQuest /QI/ QuestNet...

...and, if GoldQuest /QI/ QuestNet is shown to actually be a Pyramid-Selling Business, to alert the appropriate Malaysia authorities to the deceptions that GoldQuest /QI/ QuestNet has been using to undertake their business activites in Malaysia.

Observor30, your basic observations presented in this Forum are useful, and I respect your experience and knowledge of MLM. You are sincere and passionate in your beliefs about GoldQuest /QI/ QuestNet.

However, it appears that some of the conclusions which you have drawn from your observations of the GoldQuest /QI/ QuestNet business activities in Malaysian and elsewhere do not reflect reality. You seem to be calling the "deadly poisonous snake"....a "harmless rope".

MLM is a genuine and legal business that has provided significant economic benefits to many individuals and to the countires in which these individuals work, as well.

However, companies like GoldQuest /QI/ QuestNet attempt to use the MLM business model to mask and disguise their Pyramid-Selling Business which causes financial harm to many people.

A few benefit at the cost of harm to many more.

orchipalar
06-10-2006, 12:37 AM
dear orchipalar.. Greetings from me new forumers... QN is not attempt to humiliate n abuse the reputation as you stated above.. you know who endorse the pope product?

 they endorse  Principat d'Andorra Servei d'Emissions (http://www.mintsoftheworld.com/andorramint.html )


i read this website about ANDORA.. you try baca the history of andora…
http://www.andorra.ad/ang/descobreix_andorra/historia_cultura/breu_historia_andorra.asp

that’s why the pope product is endorsed by Principat d'Andorra Servei d'Emissions ANDORA…

hope my explainations at least give you the clear picture.. and not to humiliate and abuse other religions…

and if you want to know more and get a clear picture, can we sit together and talk about it..

regards..
janggoatsQNErr...where does it say...or prove that it is endorsed by Andorra...?(which is tiny country by itself...with a minute population of 70,000)

Oh btw...where has mintsoftheworld ever mentioned anything about GoldQuest...or what does GoldQuest has anything to do with mints of the world...?

http://www.mintsoftheworld.com/andorramint.html

orchipalar
06-10-2006, 01:03 AM
http://www.goldcoins-biz.com/images/vijay_pope.JPG

Err again...was that a gift to...or what...?

Err...is this how you get to earn your money...claiming...?

"Did you know with numismatic coins
you have an opportunity to earn USD 85,250
within 10 months and get free fine gold?!"

Ahem...how do you derive at those figures...?

Why doesn't anyone of you try to explain it OPENLY to everybody here...instead of publishing your phone numbers all over the forum...so you want forumers to approach you to discuss your so called 'scheme' over private TT...?

orchipalar
06-10-2006, 01:13 AM
Http://photos.friendster.com/photos/82/87/447828/34432562830812m.jpg

Err...as Orchi could recall...the legendary Brazil football team has won ALL their previous WorldCup Championship...WITH GOOD sponsorships from many OTHERS...in the past...

Ahem...the very 1st time they received sponsorship by GoldQuest...QuestNet or QI Ltd....THEY FAILED n LOST THE WORLD CUP...in 2006...

Irony...!?...or kesian...!?

orchipalar
06-10-2006, 01:30 AM
aku pun dah terkena TIPU dengan syarikat QI, QuestNet dan Goldquest selama 3 tahun. Akibat dari PENIPUAN ini akaun Maybank aku penuh dengan duit. Kaya... kaya... kaya...Err then there is nothing in this world which could worry you n all your groups of QN buddies in here...why the need to be so defensive?...what have you got to prove...?

Ahem...perhaps you should hold on to those 'valuable' gold nuggets...keep them as collectibles...until they appreciate MORE than the 'values' of which you have 'invested' so much for...

Err...unless the credibility of the controversial GoldQuest...QuestNet or QI Ltd...maybe in dire question....or the following shall hold true...

"siapa makan chabai...dia lah yang rasa pedas..."

Ahem...kesian...?

kwchang
06-10-2006, 01:54 AM
I seldom read this thread as MLM does not interest me.
Having seen the latest development, I have come to one conclusion ....

This thread somehow has been abused by the supporters of the business to further advertise and promote their product. This very act is in violation of our rule about advertising on the Forum. No matter how you may twist the arguements, there is no doubt to me that we may be seen to endorse this product by allowing such freedom to promote the product or services.

I would like usj.com.my to distance itself from such enterprises as it is not what this website is put up for. Let us not send the wrong signals and this goes out to all other similar threads elsewhere in the website.

I believe it is time to stop this. I would have stopped it earlier if someone had prompted me of the goings-on