moderating arguements in "Who has the cutest nick & avatar?"

[orchipalar]

So why are you bringing this up again?Err...since ya bring this up again...clearly Orchi sees 2 possibilities only...

1. He has NOT read Winnie's postings to that effect yet...
2. He has read Kokomo n Orchi's postings...n he wants to add his Dua Sen...

Ahem...do you still see a problem with it...at this stage...?

Btw...the way Orchi sees it...he has not offended anyone...n his advice is constructive...

[Jose Mourinho]

Err...since ya bring this up again...clearly Orchi sees 2 possibilities only...

1. He has NOT read Winnie's postings to that effect yet...
2. He has read Kokomo n Orchi's postings...n he wants to add his Dua Sen...

Ahem...do you still see a problem with it...at this stage...?

Ah. Orchipalar. You again. :D :D :D If he has not read Winnie's postings to that effect, then he should not have jumped the gun and shot off his mouth.

[kwchang]

Jose, I could PM you privately but you have made it necessary for me to ask you publicly ...
WHAT is it that you intend to elicit by CONSTANTLY making comments about Orchi? -

29Apr 10:04am - Ah. Orchipalar. On dogs again. Never mind la. Good morning to you.
29Apr 11:10am - Oh. Good morning to you, Orchipalar. It is you again. It is a beautiful morning, isn't it?
30Apr 12:01am - Ah. Orchipalar. You again....

[Jose Mourinho]

Jose, I could PM you privately but you have made it necessary for me to ask you publicly ...
WHAT is it that you intend to elicit by CONSTANTLY making comments about Orchi? -

29Apr 10:04am - Ah. Orchipalar. On dogs again. Never mind la. Good morning to you.
29Apr 11:10am - Oh. Good morning to you, Orchipalar. It is you again. It is a beautiful morning, isn't it?
30Apr 12:01am - Ah. Orchipalar. You again....

Simple. Why don't you read his posts before my posts? I never talked to him first. Then perhaps you can tell me why I answered as such. I answered as such because I do not want to get into an argument with him.

:)

[kwchang]

Jose, I am very confused. Please advice me where was he directing his comments to you and thence you needed to "answered as such because I do not want to get into an argument with him"

Ahh... by the way, I will be trying to split this part out to a new thread as it constitutes a diversion on this thread. Do hold your horses while I make the changes and get some asprins while I'm at it.

[Jose Mourinho]

Jose, I am very confused. Please advice me where was he directing his comments to you and thence you needed to "answered as such because I do not want to get into an argument with him"

Ahh... by the way, I will be trying to split this part out to a new thread as it constitutes a diversion on this thread. Do hold your horses while I make the changes and get some asprins while I'm at it.

Can I respectfully ask you to do a bit of research into this and not me doing the homework for you? The reason why I answer in single-liners is because I don't want to get into a lengthy argument with him and neither do I want to waste my time on him. Thank you.

:)

[kwchang]

Sorry, Jose, I have no time to check everything. The ball is in your field to explain where was it that Orchi instigated you to make those one-liners? Please refer to those 3 one-liners only, thank you.

[Jose Mourinho]

Sorry, Jose, I have no time to check everything. The ball is in your field to explain where was it that Orchi instigated you to make those one-liners? Please refer to those 3 one-liners only, thank you.

On the contrary. You brought them up. You seemed to have zero-ed in on my posts but missed out Orchipalar's posts altogether. Come on. All you need to do is just to read a few preceding posts to my three posts and you will find Orchipalar's posts.


:)

[kwchang]

I know your trick Jose... throw a question back at the interrogator. No, it ain't working this time. ;) :cool: :rolleyes:

[Jose Mourinho]

I know your trick Jose... throw a question back at the interrogator. No, it ain't working this time. ;) :cool: :rolleyes:

You have already pre-judged me. So what else is there to say? For your information, I don't do tricks. Please have a little respect for me. If you really want to know the truth of the matter, then go read Orchipalar's posts to me. If you are not really interested, then close this issue. Don't fish. Thanks.

:)

[kwchang]

Good night Jose. I know you must have forgotten to touch down after Chelsea's win. Have a good weekend with your family.

[Jose Mourinho]

Good night Jose. I know you must have forgotten to touch down after Chelsea's win. Have a good weekend with your family.

Chang. Actually I was biting my nails and I thought Chelsea would lose the game because MU was in form. Even after Gallas' early goal, I was still on edge. But after Cole's magic, I was grinning from ear to ear. Hey. You have a good weekend with your family too.

:)

[orchipalar]

Jose, I could PM you privately but you have made it necessary for me to ask you publicly ...
WHAT is it that you intend to elicit by CONSTANTLY making comments about Orchi? -

29Apr 10:04am - Ah. Orchipalar. On dogs again. Never mind la. Good morning to you.
29Apr 11:10am - Oh. Good morning to you, Orchipalar. It is you again. It is a beautiful morning, isn't it?
30Apr 12:01am - Ah. Orchipalar. You again....
Simple. Why don't you read his posts before my posts? I never talked to him first. Then perhaps you can tell me why I answered as such. I answered as such because I do not want to get into an argument with him.
The reason why I answer in single-liners is because I don't want to get into a lengthy argument with him and neither do I want to waste my time on him.
Words of wisdom indeed. My mother always tells me that. If you do not open your mouth to speak, nobody would call you dumb. In this case, dumb has two meanings. Ya? http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/upload/showpost.php?p=134647&postcount=54 Err...it all started with this...the genuine n sincere question...posted by the young Jedis...Kakilang:)...n the subsequent response from Kress:)...

http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/upload/showthread.php?t=12388&page=6&pp=15

Ahem...n from your responses n comments to that effect...Orchi disagreed with your wrong assumptions n conclusions about those 2 young gentlemen...with this posting...

http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/upload/showpost.php?p=133671&postcount=93

Err...guess it is clear to Orchi now...why you posted those one liner statements...one after another on few other occasions as well...

1. You may NOT like Orchi or perhaps other forumers...to disagree with you...or your thoughts in your postings...

2. You may NOT take constructive criticism from Orchi...or perhaps other forumers...amicably.

3. You may have forgotten about your Mom's good advice...early on?

Oh btw...should you feel strongly about NOT wanting to waste your time with Orchi...ahem...sorry to remind you here...you were NOT successful at all...err...perhaps you have to try a little harder to remember...

When in doubts...say nothing is better...~ Orchi-wan.

[Jose Mourinho]

BIG YAWN

:D

[forumer]

I find Orchipalar's postings are very ambiguous, most of time I really don't know what he is trying to say, with those err-s and ahem-s, there seems to be no 'main point' in the postings.

As a chinese-educated student struggling to cope with everything-english in college, my English is way below par if compared with other forumers, so I might be wrong, this is not a personal attack, but how I feel.

I sincerely think that this forum is a good place for me to brush up my english, both writing and reading, but those postings really confused me, is my english really that bad until I can't understand or there really isn't really any content in the postings?

[forumer]

3. You may have forgotten about your Mom's good advice...early on?


What has it got to do with his Mom?

[janelim]

I find Orchipalar's postings are very ambiguous, most of time I really don't know what he is trying to say, with those err-s and ahem-s, there seems to be no 'main point' in the postings.

As a chinese-educated student struggling to cope with everything-english in college, my English is way below par if compared with other forumers, so I might be wrong, this is not a personal attack, but how I feel.

I sincerely think that this forum is a good place for me to brush up my english, both writing and reading, but those postings really confused me, is my english really that bad until I can't understand or there really isn't really any content in the postings?

Forumer. On one hand you said your english is below par, but you SURE know how to judge and add sarcasms. You are very subtle indeed.
No. Your english is really not that bad. But you are making yourself really bad.
Dont try to stir up the fire.
:(

[forumer]

Does telling the truth making oneself looked 'bad'?

Peace can only be achieved if and only if the most unpeaceful say and do so.

[Sasha]

Dont try to stir up the fire.
:(

Jane is right... this thread has to do with KWChang, Orchipalar and Jose ONLY!! There is no need to add more comments, insinuations, or snide remarks and blow things out of proportion.
They will handle it the way they know how as it isnt something new between the 2 main characters in question here.
KWChang as moderator will step in as he sees fit as he has always done.

[leewinnie46]

I find Orchipalar's postings are very ambiguous, most of time I really don't know what he is trying to say, with those err-s and ahem-s, there seems to be no 'main point' in the postings.

As a chinese-educated student struggling to cope with everything-english in college, my English is way below par if compared with other forumers, so I might be wrong, this is not a personal attack, but how I feel.

I sincerely think that this forum is a good place for me to brush up my english, both writing and reading, but those postings really confused me, is my english really that bad until I can't understand or there really isn't really any content in the postings?
forumer, welcome on board...

when "somebody have online discussion" , don't intercept, if you want to intercept, start the reply with " Excuse me, I am new here......." "Excuse me.......", etc.

it take time to understand a person in virtual world, but you could always join the cupid clud in chatterbox by alexhay or tt gathering in main forum by orchipalar - virtually or reality to get to know them better...

have a good day. :)

[kwchang]

Thank you Sasha for standing in for me while I was away. I do have other things to do besides moderating on this Forum.

I have closed this thread for the time being while I sort out the details. Until I sort out the story lines, I will keep this thread closed.

In the mean-time, Orchi and Jose should either smoke the peace-pipes or keep away from each other. I hope for peace and I do not want to see any hint or remarks over this issue or others in the past from both of you.

[kwchang]

In my brief and quick search through the 3 one-liner events, I did come across an additional 1-liner by jose so may I list the 4 of them -

28Apr 07:49am - Ah. Orchipalar. It is you again.
29Apr 10:04am - Ah. Orchipalar. On dogs again. Never mind la. Good morning to you.
29Apr 11:10am - Oh. Good morning to you, Orchipalar. It is you again. It is a beautiful morning, isn't it?
30Apr 12:01am - Ah. Orchipalar. You again ....

Why did I pick them out?
Simply because they carried bold highlights on certain words. To me such posts carried some hidden message with the intention to tell orchi something since they were all directed at orchi.

Let me try to make head and tail of this one-liner saga. I have included the dates/time and post number for the timeline check ....

The 1st one-liner
On 28/4 v early morning, there was a discussion on companionship and serious relationship in the thread "Ever love so many person at 1 time?" -
28/4 01:37am #93 orchi made some comments about kress,totoro and kakilang's posts
28/4 07:49am #94 jose - Ah. Orchipalar. It is you again. Never mind. Good morning to you.

my views on #1 - I was wondering why Jose posted that because he was not in the discussion at that point nor was Orchi making any comments about Jose.


The 2nd one-liner
in the thread "Ever love so many person at 1 time?" -
29/4 09:55am #115 totoro on companionship between married people
29/4 09:57am #116 orchi mentioned letting loose a few ferocious dogs
29/4 10:04am #117 jose - Ah. Orchipalar. On dogs again. Never mind la. Good morning to you.

my views on #2 - similarly, was Jose warning Orchi about bringing up the issue on dogs? Was there really an issue on dogs? If not what was the real message?

The 3rd one-liner
This started in "Posting pics in the Forum and bandwidth issues" and the rest were in " Who has the cutest nick & avatar?" -
29/4 10:13am #10 winnie used MBA again
29/4 10:17am #532 mon reminded on the sensitivity
29/4 10:46am #533 jose interjected
29/4 11:05am #535 orchi answered mon
29/4 11:10am #536 jose - Oh. Good morning to you, Orchipalar. It is you again. It is a beautiful morning, isn't it?

my views on #3 - it sounded like Jose was trying to be friendly except for the "again" which to me carried some hostility. Was there a hidden message to Orchi to "stay away"? An attempt to suppress nasty comments by being sugary sweet?

The 4th one-liner
the first 2 posts were found in "Posting pics in the Forum and bandwidth issues" then continued in this thread ( moderating arguements...) -

29/4 10:38pm #11 kakilang was commenting on winnie's large pics
29/4 11:20pm #16 jose mentioned So why are you bringing this up again? to kakilang
29/4 11:52pm #1 orchi interjected to take kakilang's side of the arguement
30/4 12:01am #2 jose - Ah. Orchipalar. You again ....

my views on #4 - notice the highlight on "again". I am lost for words..

at that stage I decided to pull up the one-liners after seeing 4 appearing over a span of less than 2 days.

My final comments -
If anyone of you followed the listing down to this level, you probably had nothing better to do because it is long-winded. My apologies to you the avid reader.

It is obvious to me Jose is needling Orchi but I do not deny that Orchi had poked at Jose in the past as well.

My take on this at a very simplistic level is that I see 2 little boys made to sit next to each other in class. one starts to poke the other in the ribs and the poking continues .. and would continue onwards if I did not haul it up here. This is why I created this post. I hate to see 2 adults throwing tantrums and shadow boxing in public.

I have received an explanation from Jose but according to our Rules, I cannot divulge contents of a PM.

At this stage, I have made my observations and I AM NOT asking Orchi or Jose to explain further. My only wish is that both of them bury the hatchet and make peace. If that is going to be difficult due to pride or whatever reason best known to the both of them, I wish that they confer PEACE to the forum by not stepping on each other's toes again.