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yankeat
18-04-2006, 11:00 AM
Anyone tried submitting Borang BE online via the E-filing system? I have just submitted the BE form the traditional way, and found out now that we can do it online too, via https://e.hasil.org.my.

Anyway, I've downloaded the form, completed it, but short of just submitting it, and found it to be very convenient. Anyway, just out of curiosity, have anyone submitted it online? Will we have prove of submission? Do we have to create any account first or just submit it?

janelim
18-04-2006, 11:15 AM
You gotta go to one of their counters and get a No.Siri, which is a slip for online e-filing. With that serial no then only you go online and so fill up that assessment form. It is self tabulation and you will have the actual taxable sum at the bottom. You will get a screen telling you "Berjaya" meaning the process of submission is successful.
Print out a copy for your file pls.

We have done it and its quite simple.

kwchang
18-04-2006, 12:21 PM
Just checked with LHDN on the phone.
They are open on Sat and Sun this weekend (8am-5pm) at Jalan Duta (Block 11)
or their centre at Kelana Jaya (behind the MAS offices, near the stadium).
Just go there, show your IC (I think you should also have your tax reference number) and they will give you the "slip sijil digital" or digital certificate slip which I believe should be a secret PIN for access to the digital certificate for secure website transactions. That's all.

Kelana Jaya location -
Cawangan Petaling Jaya
Aras 1,2,7 & 8, Kelana Brem (Tower 1),
Jalan SS 7/15 (Jalan Stadium),
47301 Kelana Jaya, Selangor Darul Ehsan.
Talian Am :03-78827500

Parking is free and easy at Jln Duta. I understand parking can be bad at Kelana Jaya.

Then do the e-filing from home via the Internet.
Make sure you install Acrobat Reader version 7.0.5 or newer version because only the version 7 or newer allows for secure digital form returns.

janelim
18-04-2006, 12:30 PM
Yes, missed out that part on Acrobat Reader V7.
We registered at the kelana jaya branch. Its definitely a sure convenient way of filling up the Borang BE. :)

patrick
18-04-2006, 01:07 PM
I still did it the conventional way. Why? For the benefit of those in the same situation as me. IF you have Tax rebates like share dividends etc. you still have to personally hand in or send the Dividend Vouchers after you do your e-filing. Just to share with you.

You guys better finish your returns soon...not much time. I had to finish mine early as I am travelling. So now I can afford a little smile of satisfaction! ;-) Happy filing!! :D

trex92
18-04-2006, 03:09 PM
I still did it the conventional way. Why? For the benefit of those in the same situation as me. IF you have Tax rebates like share dividends etc. you still have to personally hand in or send the Dividend Vouchers after you do your e-filing. Just to share with you.

You guys better finish your returns soon...not much time. I had to finish mine early as I am travelling. So now I can afford a little smile of satisfaction! ;-) Happy filing!! :D

if got tax refundable position due to S110 Tax at source only then need to submit the original dividend vouchers along with a hardcopy Borang HK-3 (found in the buku panduan mengisi Borang BE). Else no need to submit any hardcopies at all thru e-filing.

jericho
18-04-2006, 04:53 PM
if got tax refundable position due to S110 Tax at source only then need to submit the original dividend vouchers along with a hardcopy Borang HK-3 (found in the buku panduan mengisi Borang BE). Else no need to submit any hardcopies at all thru e-filing.


in other words, if the amount in E11 is more than E10 in your BE form then you have to submit the dividend vouchers and the HK-3.

PJS
19-04-2006, 02:24 AM
They have a counter a Summit USJ. I got my digital PIN from there last week, yet to try to download the forms and digicert online, not sure of the steps ...the instructions were in Bahasa and I became very the blur after reading their instructions... :o :D

Stan
19-04-2006, 09:35 AM
Just want to share some info for those who want to do e-filling.

Went to Kelana Jaya, Brem Tower to get the digital cert and PIN.

Go up to the 6th floor, there's only one computer that can issue the digital cert. When I was there, there was a queue of about 15 people. Shoudlnt take a long time (about 2-3 minutes per person) but the lady there was a bit slow.

One of the officers there said this weekend they will be at IOI Mall and Giant Kelana giant for a roadshow. can get the digital cert there too.

yankeat
19-04-2006, 10:23 AM
My friend is in overseas, and would need to submit the BE form. I thought that it would be possible to settle it online without the need to personally go LHDN offices or through posts.
it seems that the system is not that well thought yet.

Stan
19-04-2006, 10:27 AM
My friend is in overseas, and would need to submit the BE form. I thought that it would be possible to settle it online without the need to personally go LHDN offices or through posts.
it seems that the system is not that well thought yet.

Actually, when I was there, one of the guys in front of me actually got a digital cert for a friend.

Al he needed was the person's ic number. The officer keys it in and the computer pull up that person's tax information. Then the person will give you a sealed envelop with the pin inside.

I suppose you can get it for your friend overseas too, if he already has a file.

xfile007
19-04-2006, 10:43 AM
Hi all,

Understand that we need to return the BE form by end of April.

How about the payment, should it be settled by end of April too?

Thanks a lot.

ghj
19-04-2006, 01:38 PM
Just wanted to ask if they din post the form to you and if the salary is not taxable yet, then no need to submit the BE form right?

trex92
19-04-2006, 02:43 PM
Hi all,

Understand that we need to return the BE form by end of April.

How about the payment, should it be settled by end of April too?

Thanks a lot.

Tax is due and payable on the same date as the filing dateline ie 30 April.

trex92
19-04-2006, 02:45 PM
Just wanted to ask if they din post the form to you and if the salary is not taxable yet, then no need to submit the BE form right?

if they didnt post the form to you but you have a tax file, then u have to submit irregardless of whether have balance of tax to be paid. You have to obtain the form urself or download from internet for submission. Once u have a tax file, you have to consistently submit borang BE every year.

If u have not yet open a tax file and u have employment income although does not attract PCB, it is still advisable to open a tax file as penalties for not doing so makes it more sensible to open a file and submit (i had a fren who was penalised exactly in this way). I have been told that IRB does not encourage individuals who earns below the tax payable balances to open tax file in order to prevent overflooding of IRB's resources and manpower but it is based on hearsay.

yankeat
19-04-2006, 11:54 PM
I have been told that IRB does not encourage individuals who earns below the tax payable balances to open tax file

Nope, I was with my friend at the IRB branch Kelana Jaya last year, we were told by IRB officers the very same thing, but we were not told the reason. Next time I should record their statement & note down their name & employee numbers as a proof IF these officers says otherwise.

ghj
20-04-2006, 08:34 AM
if they didnt post the form to you but you have a tax file, then u have to submit irregardless of whether have balance of tax to be paid. You have to obtain the form urself or download from internet for submission. Once u have a tax file, you have to consistently submit borang BE every year.

If u have not yet open a tax file and u have employment income although does not attract PCB, it is still advisable to open a tax file as penalties for not doing so makes it more sensible to open a file and submit (i had a fren who was penalised exactly in this way). I have been told that IRB does not encourage individuals who earns below the tax payable balances to open tax file in order to prevent overflooding of IRB's resources and manpower but it is based on hearsay.

can i say that if u have an "Income Tax Number" then u have a tax file?

trex92
20-04-2006, 09:27 AM
can i say that if u have an "Income Tax Number" then u have a tax file?

yes... if u have income tax number that begins like SG-xxxxx or OG-xxxxx then u have a tax file liao. These number is actually ur tax file number.... ;)

in
20-04-2006, 10:05 AM
I received an email from the IRB informing me of the e-filing system. I didn't know that IRB sends out mass emails.

bee
22-04-2006, 07:07 PM
Nope, I was with my friend at the IRB branch Kelana Jaya last year, we were told by IRB officers the very same thing, but we were not told the reason. Next time I should record their statement & note down their name & employee numbers as a proof IF these officers says otherwise.


For those people ( A single person and a married lady or where wife/husband is working) whose monthly net income (i.e. after EPF deduction) is between RM2,101.00 and RM2,550.00 is liable to income tax even though his remuneration is not subject to tax deduction under the Scheduler Tax Deduction scheme. It is the responsibility of the employer to inform the
nearest Inland Revenue Board’s office to have a file registered.

JayChou
24-04-2006, 10:08 AM
can someone assist...

i would like to submit my tax return today. Is the summit counter still available?

Is there any other place in subang, where they set up counter for us to submit tax return.

Thanks in advance

jakpo
24-04-2006, 11:05 AM
Hi,
In the midst of filling up BE forms for me and wife. I have one question:

I have 4 children, can I have "pelepasan" for 2 children, and my wife have another 2 ?

Thank you.

denver
24-04-2006, 11:38 AM
I already filed my taxes through the E-filing, all from the comfort of my, erm, office. :D

Its quite convenient actually. And the online form (an enhance pdf file) automatically do all the calculations for me. But I did calculate my tax manually first, and the online form just confirms that my calculations were correct.

But installing the digi-cert was not smooth sailing. I got some "Warnings" from windows about the cert. I just pressed Yes all the way and finally got the thing to install.

Does anyone know how to backup your digi-cert? What if I want to install the cert in my home PC...which file should I transfer? Anyone know?

trex92
24-04-2006, 11:42 AM
Hi,
In the midst of filling up BE forms for me and wife. I have one question:

I have 4 children, can I have "pelepasan" for 2 children, and my wife have another 2 ?

Thank you.

good question. Effective from 1996, a wife can claim for child relief provided that she is living together with the husband, her income is separately assessed and an election is made in writing that the deduction be wholly allowed to her for that year of assessment, it points that it is possible to for her to claim 2 children for child relief as long as the child is wholly allowed only for her deduction and not yours. The buku panduan further states that

"Kelayakan 100% HK-13 - Ruang ini untuk diisi oleh individu yang layak menuntut potongan anak sepenuhnya.
Kelayakan 50% Ruang ini untuk diisi di mana dua atau lebih individu (bukan suami isteri yang tinggal bersama) layak menuntut potongan ke atas bayaran yang dibuat ke atas anak yang sama dan setiap individu tersebut layak menuntut separuh dari potongan yang dibenarkan. Subseksyen 48(4)
Rujuk Helaian Kerja HK-13 untuk pengiraan."

so it would seem less confusing and logical to claim 50% for 4 children for both u and ur wife.

trex92
24-04-2006, 11:45 AM
I already filed my taxes through the E-filing, all from the comfort of my, erm, office. :D

Its quite convenient actually. And the online form (an enhance pdf file) automatically do all the calculations for me. But I did calculate my tax manually first, and the online form just confirms that my calculations were correct.

But installing the digi-cert was not smooth sailing. I got some "Warnings" from windows about the cert. I just pressed Yes all the way and finally got the thing to install.

Does anyone know how to backup your digi-cert? What if I want to install the cert in my home PC...which file should I transfer? Anyone know?

yes, it is possible to export the digital certificate. Go to internet explorer select Tools>Internet Options>Options. Under the Certificates box, click Certificates. Then start to look for the IRB's digital certificate in the different categories. Once u have found it, select it and simply click Export. Save it to a diskette and do an import in ur computer thru the same steps above.

denver
24-04-2006, 12:16 PM
yes, it is possible to export the digital certificate. Go to internet explorer select Tools>Internet Options>Options. Under the Certificates box, click Certificates. Then start to look for the IRB's digital certificate in the different categories. Once u have found it, select it and simply click Export. Save it to a diskette and do an import in ur computer thru the same steps above.

I've done like you suggested, it works! Thanks! :)

trex92
24-04-2006, 12:35 PM
I've done like you suggested, it works! Thanks! :)

ur welcome ;)

JayChou
24-04-2006, 02:24 PM
The Income tax counter in SUMMIT USJ is no longer there as at 12 noon today.

I heard that there is a counter in Subang Parade to file your return. I plan to check it out tomorrow

HTH
24-04-2006, 03:08 PM
For those of u thinking of submitting thru e-filling and yet to register, I was told that they need 2 working days to activate ur e-account. I did mine on Saturday at the Kelana Jaya office and was told it'll only be activated on Wednesday. That means I can only submit on Wednesday.

So, register early, as they'll need to input ur registration and process it, which will take 2 days.

USJ27Resident
24-04-2006, 03:49 PM
"Kelayakan 100% HK-13 - Ruang ini untuk diisi oleh individu yang layak menuntut potongan anak sepenuhnya.
Kelayakan 50% Ruang ini untuk diisi di mana dua atau lebih individu (bukan suami isteri yang tinggal bersama) layak menuntut potongan ke atas bayaran yang dibuat ke atas anak yang sama dan setiap individu tersebut layak menuntut separuh dari potongan yang dibenarkan. Subseksyen 48(4)
Rujuk Helaian Kerja HK-13 untuk pengiraan."

so it would seem less confusing and logical to claim 50% for 4 children for both u and ur wife.

Hi all... just came back from the IRB office and I had asked the officer this question too... and she said the same thing too... BUT with a slight variation.

As for the childrens allowances... either party can use the allowances OR (this is the key word... OR ) split the allowance... 50/50 or else it would mean double rebates ... As to the insurance or other deductables/rebates, example: if the father pays for the insurance, then he obviously can use that amount as amount deductable in the insurance column. Meaning if daddy pays for the sons and mommy pays for the daughters - then daddy can use the son's statements for his B form and mommy can use the daughter's statements for the her B form.

ava
24-04-2006, 04:09 PM
Hi,

If I have setup the certificate for e-filling for myself in my PC, can I still setup the certificate for mywife on the same PC?

trex92
24-04-2006, 06:01 PM
Hi all... just came back from the IRB office and I had asked the officer this question too... and she said the same thing too... BUT with a slight variation.

As for the childrens allowances... either party can use the allowances OR (this is the key word... OR ) split the allowance... 50/50 or else it would mean double rebates ... As to the insurance or other deductables/rebates, example: if the father pays for the insurance, then he obviously can use that amount as amount deductable in the insurance column. Meaning if daddy pays for the sons and mommy pays for the daughters - then daddy can use the son's statements for his B form and mommy can use the daughter's statements for the her B form.

:o opps, that was wat i was trying to explain. Guess I didnt do a good job on it, sorry...

trex92
24-04-2006, 06:02 PM
Hi,

If I have setup the certificate for e-filling for myself in my PC, can I still setup the certificate for mywife on the same PC?

no, 1 certificate only to 1 person. U have to get a separate certificate for ur wife on the same PC.

USJ27Resident
24-04-2006, 09:55 PM
Hi all... just came back from the IRB office and I had asked the officer this question too... and she said the same thing too... BUT with a slight variation.....

And just before I got into the building, I saw this three police STAFF (officers) cars parked on the kerb... and look carefully above the last car and see if you can make out the sign.... :p I guess the law has got exemptions huh... :rolleyes: And if you think that mebbe they were elsewhere for official business... well, tax exemption was not on their privileges... as the officers were in the IRB office :p http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/6836/image2546fw.jpg

Opps... forgot to mention. The signpost was for ZON TUNDA

fRaNkY
25-04-2006, 10:02 AM
WARNING! WARNING! WARNING! WARNING! WARNING! WARNING! or Reminder...

5 more days! :D

eddypun
26-04-2006, 01:53 AM
Hellooo...

I just submitted my taxes via e-filing... :D

anyone knows how we can pay our taxes (apart from queing up at the LHDN office?)

trex92
26-04-2006, 09:07 AM
Hellooo...

I just submitted my taxes via e-filing... :D

anyone knows how we can pay our taxes (apart from queing up at the LHDN office?)

hmm... if u refer to nota panduan mengisi borang BE or the back portion of borang BE (cant remember which), there are instructions for u to make payment via Public Bank or BCB counter bank in. Or alternatively, u can just send in ur cheque by post.

jand
26-04-2006, 11:26 PM
sidetrack a little, anyone know the difference between the borang B and BE? I've taken a look at both and they look pretty much the same to me.

sidetracking even more... a Digicert Basic costs RM40/year and the ones we get from LHDN are valid for 3 years hence it'll cost the Gov RM40 x 3 years = RM120 (assuming no discounts).

Anyway, it's a good system if more people start filing the returns electronically hence saving petrol + subsidies, parking fees, less pollution, paper, ink, etc.
I just hope they don't print the PDF out to process it though, I think it unlikely since I noticed the Export button will output to an XML file with all our data in plain text.

The Import button offers interesting possibilities like batch/mass data entry.

yankeat
27-04-2006, 12:32 AM
Hellooo...
anyone knows how we can pay our taxes (apart from queing up at the LHDN office?)

Can bank in cash through public bank or Bumiputera Commerce. You will need to fill in a form which can be obtained from the bank inselfwith Nombor Rujukan Cukai & the amount.
Paying through bank is better than sending check through mail because the payment slip can be used as a proof of payment, compared to sending check which we don't have any proof at all.

Btw, eddy, how much are you paying :D ??

achee
27-04-2006, 01:01 AM
Side track a bit ......

what happen if a person, let say achee, submit tax form after the deadline 30april? What's the penalty?

A few years ago, I sent mine as late as June. Tarak apa pun ... no problem, then received form J. There was no letter saying I was late, etc-etc.

sinleong
27-04-2006, 02:15 AM
i'm overseas, how do i do it?

achee
27-04-2006, 07:53 AM
Nation
Thursday April 27, 2006


In The Star today:

PETALING JAYA: Non-business taxpayers have until May 31 to submit their income tax forms via the e-Filing system.

Those submitting their forms manually have until Sunday to do so.

A statement from the Inland Revenue Board said the extension of the deadline for e-Filing was to encourage more people to use it. It is in its first year of implementation.

The penalty for late submission of forms via e-Filing will take effect from June 1.

trex92
27-04-2006, 09:19 AM
sidetrack a little, anyone know the difference between the borang B and BE? I've taken a look at both and they look pretty much the same to me.

sidetracking even more... a Digicert Basic costs RM40/year and the ones we get from LHDN are valid for 3 years hence it'll cost the Gov RM40 x 3 years = RM120 (assuming no discounts).

Anyway, it's a good system if more people start filing the returns electronically hence saving petrol + subsidies, parking fees, less pollution, paper, ink, etc.
I just hope they don't print the PDF out to process it though, I think it unlikely since I noticed the Export button will output to an XML file with all our data in plain text.

The Import button offers interesting possibilities like batch/mass data entry.

Borang BE is for salaried individuals (ppl with tax file that starts with SG-xxx) and Borang B is for individuals with business income from sole propriertor, partnership etc (ppl with tax file that starts with OG-xxx). Borang B has got columns for Business Income on top of Salaries, Dividends etc.

I agree that e-filing is a good system but I refuse to pay for it. It is IRB's system so why should i pay for it. Imagine if maybank starts to charge for maybank2u.

trex92
27-04-2006, 09:25 AM
Side track a bit ......

what happen if a person, let say achee, submit tax form after the deadline 30april? What's the penalty?

A few years ago, I sent mine as late as June. Tarak apa pun ... no problem, then received form J. There was no letter saying I was late, etc-etc.

late submission penalty takes time and not shown in Borang J. U would just receive a letter from IRB on the penalty at a much later date (but hopefully they overlooked it ;) ). Penalties from hasilnet as follows:-
Rate of Penalty Under Subsection 112(3)


A. Employment Case (SG) (except directors of control company)

Offences Rates on tax payable Min ( RM ) Mak ( RM )
First 2% 50 100
Second 5% 100 200
Third 10% 150 300
Fourth 10% 200 500
Fifth 10% 250 750
Sixth 15% 300 1,000
Seventh 15% 350 1,500
Eighth 15% 400 2,000
Ninth 15% 450 2,500
Tenth and Above 20% 500 3,000

yankeat
27-04-2006, 10:41 AM
Side track a bit ......

what happen if a person, let say achee, submit tax form after the deadline 30april? What's the penalty?

A few years ago, I sent mine as late as June. Tarak apa pun ... no problem, then received form J. There was no letter saying I was late, etc-etc.

If wanna submit after 30 April, submit via e-form :D Gomen has extended the deadline this morning

From Thestar 27th April

New deadline for e-Filing

PETALING JAYA: Non-business taxpayers have until May 31 to submit their income tax forms via the e-Filing system.

Those submitting their forms manually have until Sunday to do so.

A statement from the Inland Revenue Board said the extension of the deadline for e-Filing was to encourage more people to use it. It is in its first year of implementation.

The penalty for late submission of forms via e-Filing will take effect from June 1.

KH EE
27-04-2006, 11:51 AM
was told that to avoid late submission, even by e-filing dateline of 31 may, you have to get your digital cert by 30 april. anyone can confirm?

PJS
27-04-2006, 11:54 PM
YEAY! I did it!

Completed my e-filing in less time than it took to read new postings in usj.com. ;)

About 30 minutes was all it took. (with some struggling about reading last year's info leaflet on what some item details meant in English. The form in BM is the killer for me, hehehehe) :D

Clicked "Tangatangan and Hantar"

then..... Nothing happens!


Duh! :(

So what now?

Will I get an acknowledgement via email or what?
Kept checking my email, didn't find anything, yet!

How do I confirm if my form has reach LHDN safe and sound????? :rolleyes: :confused:

Blackbird
28-04-2006, 03:22 AM
Tried a few times, got the message "... permohonan anda tidak berjaya" Sila hubungi DigiCert... ? Anyone encounter this?

jand
28-04-2006, 09:06 PM
Borang BE is for salaried individuals (ppl with tax file that starts with SG-xxx) and Borang B is for individuals with business income from sole propriertor, partnership etc (ppl with tax file that starts with OG-xxx). Borang B has got columns for Business Income on top of Salaries, Dividends etc.


I've already submitted using the Borang B via eFiling. So how? Do I have to submit again using Borang BE?
Tried calling IRB but the lines were too busy, sent an email and got a standard auto-reply. :(



I agree that e-filing is a good system but I refuse to pay for it. It is IRB's system so why should i pay for it. Imagine if maybank starts to charge for maybank2u.

Btw, there's no fee involved in getting a digital cert from IRB.

jand
28-04-2006, 09:13 PM
For those who don't already know, there's the option to SAVE your work halfway. Just click on the SIMPAN button available on the first page.
You can always submit later if the network or server's busy.

Upon successful TANDATANGAN DAN HANTAR, you'd be directed to a webpage with your details and an LHDN stamp.

Oh, and one more thingy. You gotta do all this using Internet Explorer.
Mozilla, Firefox, etc are not welcomed.

PJS
28-04-2006, 11:24 PM
hmm, thanks jand, I never get to that confirmation screen when I click 'hantar'. I tried at least 4-5 times though. Could something be wrong with my e-cert or IE or some settings in personal firewall that blocks the sending? Could it be the e-hasil server is too busy?

Now that I missed the hardcopy deadline, I gotta make sure my e-filing is completed before 31-May. This kind of technology boo-boo sucks big time! mad:

jand
29-04-2006, 12:39 AM
hard to tell without seeing the exact error on your screen.

perhaps to start off, can you verify that the cert's installed?
Start up IE, in the menu option: Tools > Internet Options :: Content :: Certificates :: Personal

You should see your name there with the cert issued by Digisign ID (Basic)

durkheim1
01-05-2006, 12:52 PM
Income tax filers complaint that the IRB will not stamp "Acknowledge Receipt" on tax submission forms. :(

IRB say they are shorthanded :eek: - I say its a lazy "little napoleon" excuse. :mad:

A 3-step guide to IRB :rolleyes: :-
Step 1 - pick-up rubber stamp
Step 2 - punch rubber stamp on stamp pad
Step 3 - punch (chop) rubber stamp on income tax form
How shorthanded can it be?

My way to mitigate this. I submit cheque with my income tax form. So, if the cheque CLEARED, I know they had received my form. If they claimed otherwise, but my cheque is cleared anyway, I'll have a case against IRB although the IRB CEO arrogantly said "if any case goes to court, there should be only one outcome : the IRB wins" - SundayStar 30/4/06. :p

But I wonder why there was no mention of IRB late in refund in that interview. :(

But TheStar 1/5/06 reported IRB won't send out tax forms from next year...hmm, I'll have to think of other ways to protect my interest. :cool:

note : one glitch about the online form is it need Adobe Reader 7.0.7 to run. Doubt everyone would have such a high version.

kwchang
01-05-2006, 12:58 PM
The LHDN (IRB) website provides links for you to download the reader - hence no excuse really.

I wonder how they will tackle the submissions with rebates for taxes taken from dividend payouts. I understand that such claims need to send in the original dividend slips .. a process not possible with the online system.

Furthermore, not every tax-payer has online access to the internet.

durkheim1
01-05-2006, 01:14 PM
Very true KWChang,

Any dividend refund, IRB requires the original copy of the dividend form.
How they go about it is rather an issue via an e-submission.

Although the link to download the latest version of Adobe is in the IRB's website, but its not really an easy task to do it. Its a 20MB file...well, since its not something that can not be done...not really an issue after all.

kwchang
01-05-2006, 01:23 PM
At the moment, the installation is actually done online. There is (as far as I know) no complete download of the reader for offline installation.

Figure this out - a large number of people deciding to do the online submission find out to their dismay that they need a good internet connection to install the adobe reader. With a tmnet dialup account, they may never get it done at all! Big disaster in the making.... watch the complaints come in later in the month.

durkheim1
01-05-2006, 01:40 PM
Yes, you are right, thats why I also a bit careful not to promote too much the e-filing to my office colleagues for their supposedly convenience. :(

Dialup connection - may not be so effective to download a 20MB file :mad:
Broadband connection - not everyone have it at their convenient (it took me a while to download the Installer) :eek:
Office download - may be restricted by firewall :cool:
Starbucks connection - need the hassle just to download a file meh? :confused:

I had to bear the agony of seeing my colleagues using the manual tax form and I only CC the e-version to those equiped with latest versions of Adobe.

Don't want to disappoint the old-school (got the e-version, but can't open it)...alamak...

tohca
02-05-2006, 12:27 AM
i have submitted the e-filing for my tax return successfully, with some difficulty. it is certainly not the friendliest software to use, but it is better than the manual way to some extent.

however, I have a problem when submitting the e-filing for my missus though. i cannot daftar her e-filling online after obtaining the digicert key from the tax dept. when i try to daftar online, the form does not allow me to enter the additional digit (1) after my tax number, and when i try to submit anyway, it tells me that i have an invalid tax number. both our tax numbers are the same, except that her have the number (1) appended to it. we have elected to submit separate returns.
have emailed the problem to LDHN with the std auto reply. may be a month before someone from LDHN replies, if at all.

anyone of you have this problem too?

trex92
02-05-2006, 09:16 AM
I've already submitted using the Borang B via eFiling. So how? Do I have to submit again using Borang BE?
Tried calling IRB but the lines were too busy, sent an email and got a standard auto-reply. :(



Btw, there's no fee involved in getting a digital cert from IRB.

jand, is ur income tax file SG or OG? You should have filled up BE if urs is SG file and vice versa. No idea on ur case whether to re-submit new form but I would advise not to.

Yes, there is not fee currently coz it is free for 3 years, after which, there would be a fee imposed around RM50 to 100.

tamago
02-05-2006, 04:15 PM
Hi folks, in Borang BE 2005, column D3,
Peralatan Pembelian alat sokongan asas untuk kegunaan sendiri, suami / isteri, anak atau ibu bapa yang hilang upaya asas dihadkan kepada RM5,000.
Do you know what are the "alat sokongan asas"? Wheelchair?
Is the blood pressure measurement device considered as " alat sokongan asas"?

HTH
02-05-2006, 06:44 PM
i have submitted the e-filing for my tax return successfully, with some difficulty. it is certainly not the friendliest software to use, but it is better than the manual way to some extent.

however, I have a problem when submitting the e-filing for my missus though. i cannot daftar her e-filling online after obtaining the digicert key from the tax dept. when i try to daftar online, the form does not allow me to enter the additional digit (1) after my tax number, and when i try to submit anyway, it tells me that i have an invalid tax number. both our tax numbers are the same, except that her have the number (1) appended to it. we have elected to submit separate returns.
have emailed the problem to LDHN with the std auto reply. may be a month before someone from LDHN replies, if at all.

anyone of you have this problem too?

If u made an error in your Tax No. field, you will not be able to leave that field until u corrected it. You'll get "Nombor Tidak Sah" or something similar. But if you are able to continue filling in other information, such as the address, then it's not your tax no that is wrong.

Maybe they register your wife's tax number and slip id wrongly. My problem was they didn't even register it, after giving me the slip. Easiest is to get to Kelana Jaya office, 6th floor. There are 8 computers there for you to try it out, with LHDN officers guiding you. Any problem, they'll solve it on the spot. Remember to bring a thumbdrive or diskette, to backup ur digicert, so that u can import it back to your home PC.

jand
02-05-2006, 09:31 PM
jand, is ur income tax file SG or OG? You should have filled up BE if urs is SG file and vice versa. No idea on ur case whether to re-submit new form but I would advise not to.


yup, SG it is. Guess I'll just leave it be then. Just hope that they'll process my Borang B instead of waiting until June.
Good thing the pdf has a record of when it was signed and submitted.

No reply from my email as of yet.... :mad:

trex92
03-05-2006, 09:27 AM
yup, SG it is. Guess I'll just leave it be then. Just hope that they'll process my Borang B instead of waiting until June.
Good thing the pdf has a record of when it was signed and submitted.

No reply from my email as of yet.... :mad:

All info of BE is in B too, so should be okay kua....

:D :D irb currently overwhelmed...

PJS
05-05-2006, 11:30 AM
hard to tell without seeing the exact error on your screen.

perhaps to start off, can you verify that the cert's installed?
Start up IE, in the menu option: Tools > Internet Options :: Content :: Certificates :: Personal

You should see your name there with the cert issued by Digisign ID (Basic)

Jand, thanks for the tip. I checked the digisign cert it was fine.

On my next attempt, I turned off the personal firewall, set the IE security and Privacy setting to LOW, and tried to submit the same form I filled up on 28-Apr again, still nothing.

Then as a last resort, I thought, perhaps it didn't want to accept a form dated in the past, so I filled up a fresh new form manually, and clicked submit...

Walla! Done! Got the confirmation slip.

So happy now :D

Not that I'm happy to pay the big $$$$$ in taxes! :mad: In fact I've overpaid for 2 consecutive yrs and shd go and bug their office for a refund soon! :D

AllUrban
28-05-2006, 07:01 PM
Im trying to use the e-filing now

the sg number that was given to me is SGXXXXXXXX-10

However, the e-form wont allow space for a -

so it comes up as XXXXXXXX10

Then I am told that the number is tidak sah (not valid)

What to do at this point?

Could I have the wrong number?

Cheers, m

jand
28-05-2006, 08:57 PM
there is supposed to be 11 digits. check the tax reference number again.
fyi, the last digit at the end with brackets is included.
example: 0123456789(0)

so the number to fill in is 01234567890

Teeque
30-05-2006, 06:45 PM
Would like to chk with anyone of you, is the tax counter at Summit still operating? Or is there any new counters set up ard Subang to assist new users with this new E-filing?

sinleong
01-06-2006, 02:21 AM
let me share with u my experience...
1. i live in bangkok (but paid in malaysia) so i cannot go to LHDN to get my digital cert
2. so i wrote them an email, which they replied a week later informing me that i can authorize them to open my digital cert envelope by an authorization letter
3. i faxed and emailed the letter but no reply until this evening 6pm (KL time) 31st May
4. then i could not open the form i downloaded cos i dont have acrobat 7.0.5
5. i could not download acrobat 7.0.5 until i upgraded my IE to ver.5.0
6. by the time i fixed the problem (and after dinner) i started filling in the form
7. i was done just after midnight (missed the dateline)
8. i clicked on tandatangan dan hantar, nothing happens after that - didnt hantar

so how now?

sinleong
01-06-2006, 02:28 AM
anyone here knows what is the fine for late submission?

i know of at least one person who got his passport impounded for non-submission last year. i hope it doesnt happen to me since i need to travel to earn a living!

Teeque
01-06-2006, 02:50 AM
Oh wow sinleong, I sympathise with ur problems. Hopefully someone here who is working abroad can give u some pointers.

For me, I had to charged straight to LHDN office today to get them officers to solve my problem. It seems that their servers were overwhelmed with last minute submissions. Maybe u might try emailing them again tomoro and see if they can help u out?

trex92
01-06-2006, 08:41 AM
anyone here knows what is the fine for late submission?

i know of at least one person who got his passport impounded for non-submission last year. i hope it doesnt happen to me since i need to travel to earn a living!

fine for late submission depends on the number of repeated offence. Fine ranges from RM50 to RM100 for first offence. Refer to http://www.hasil.org.my/english/eng_NO4_6.asp.

PJS
01-06-2006, 07:57 PM
7. i was done just after midnight (missed the dateline)
8. i clicked on tandatangan dan hantar, nothing happens after that - didnt hantar

so how now?

Hi, I think your problem is similar to mine, I suspect the date of submission(the time u clicked hantar) must be the same as the date of form completion - if u completed it on 11.59pm May 31 but clicked "Hantar" on 00.01am June 1, the system may not recognise it(prevents cheating/backdating), or the server could be just plain overloaded! But it's just a hunch..not sure if redoing it from scratch will help but worth a try...read my problems in previous post.

SunwayKid
01-06-2006, 08:01 PM
...just a hunch..not sure if redoing it from scratch will help but worth a try....

No need to redo the whole thing from scratch. If it is a date problem, just change the date to the current date in the field before tandatangan & hantar. I did that and it works fine.

sinleong
02-06-2006, 04:11 AM
No need to redo the whole thing from scratch. If it is a date problem, just change the date to the current date in the field before tandatangan & hantar. I did that and it works fine.

i tried that... tak boleh!

SunwayKid
02-06-2006, 09:20 AM
i tried that... tak boleh!

Presume you followed the steps, i.e.

1. You register and download the digital cert first.
2. Then you download the form

And your PC operating system is Windows XP.

PJS
02-06-2006, 11:31 AM
If you live overseas I think you can request for an extension to file, if you can show you faced technical difficulties and you are working overseas, write in nicely, MAYBE they'll waive the penalty for late submission.

They just want u to submit and pay your taxes so if you have communicated to them of the delay they may grant an extension. No harm writing in and try.

patrick
02-06-2006, 12:15 PM
anyone here knows what is the fine for late submission?

i know of at least one person who got his passport impounded for non-submission last year. i hope it doesnt happen to me since i need to travel to earn a living!

I find it hard to understand Malaysian. Why wait until the very last day! Why huh??

DarReNz
18-04-2007, 05:26 PM
I just wanna check if i don't have a Tax File Number, I need to go the Kelana Jaya Branch to get one and also the pin number for the e-filing, correct ? Anything else I need ? Thanks

bslee
18-04-2007, 06:30 PM
I find it hard to understand Malaysian. Why wait until the very last day! Why huh??

Pat, like me to say it out loud?. Bad attitude! tidak apa attitude!..bad habit developed from young and inherent from upbringing or influence from so many embedded with this culture..sorry to foresee but there seems no end in sight. I'm seriously wondering what kind of moral education is actually given in school these days..perhaps like teacher just talks about it like a talking parrot..do it just for the sake its part of the job!..This habit is about punctuality for whatever deadline or appointment..say 6pm..but in reality likely half hour later..typical lah!. Malaysians, Singaporeans..quite alike!..as I said..quite typical...bad habits die hard!. This is one bad habit that we'll always trail people in the western hemisphere..or even down under.

Its now the job of every parent to instill the neccessary fundamentals in kids where punctuality is concerned..not depend on the school teacher or whatever syllabus to fulfil the task.
Our education system is FAR from perfect!..if fact its gone to the dogs! So called religious schools "seem to be" for better quality education..so parents think so..but million dollar question is?..will there be more model citizens in future..I have my doubts.. as I said..bad habits, when easily influenced by circle of friends or group can alter whatever thats been learnt before. This is a subjective topic..I think I'll stop here..

patrick
19-04-2007, 05:27 PM
I just wanna check if i don't have a Tax File Number, I need to go the Kelana Jaya Branch to get one and also the pin number for the e-filing, correct ? Anything else I need ? Thanks

If you dont even have a tax file, means you are a first time tax payer. Then yes you will need a Tax File no. But you didnt say whether you wanna do E filling there or you just wanna get the Pin number. IF you are going to do your E Filing there, then please bring along all the necessary details that you need to refer to eg your Employer's No., your tax deductions, your dividend vouchers etc.etc

paramdavusj
19-04-2007, 10:20 PM
Is the tax counter at summit open this weekend i.e 21 n 22 april?
Can any one confirm ??

fRaNkY
20-04-2007, 10:18 AM
Anyone knows?

In my EA form, I have PCB deductions... and also CP38 deductions.... what's a CP38 deduction?

hhtee
20-04-2007, 11:42 AM
sorry guys..... I created another posting on Income Tax and missed this thread.....

Anyways, in my thread, I wrote,

Something Wrong With Income Tax Form Program?

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I feel that there is something wrong with the income tax form program


If I fill in Manually, there is something called Rebat Cukai Individu (Individual Tax Rebate) which amounts to RM 350 and which I can fill in. But when I use the online system, there is nowhere I could key in this amount. At the end of the day, when I go to the tax summary, the "Individual Tax Rebate = 0".

SO WHY SHOULD I USE THIS ONLINE INCOME TAX FILLING PROGRAM WHEN THERE ARE ERRORS???!!!!!

mimosa
20-04-2007, 05:23 PM
Whew, managed to send my BE form the old fashion way today, and got the all important LHDN Tarikh Terima stamp! :D I really prefer this way, after listening to some horror e-filing stories.

Was there after 2pm, not much crowd, just waited 3 numbers, but by the time I left, suddenly everybody was coming in and there was a queue just for the nombor giliran.

Glad to get this off my mind after the horror of 30 April 2006, last day sending form. :o :eek: :D

P.S. LHDN has extended their working hours. Saw a notice board 8am to 8pm, but I overhead some officers said they were willing to work to 10pm if there were ppl.

geordie
20-04-2007, 06:41 PM
sorry guys..... If I fill in Manually, there is something called Rebat Cukai Individu (Individual Tax Rebate) which amounts to RM 350 and which I can fill in. But when I use the online system, there is nowhere I could key in this amount. At the end of the day, when I go to the tax summary, the "Individual Tax Rebate = 0".


Tee ... If your chargeable income (E1 of BE form) is more than M$35k, then the individual tax rebate of M$350 does not apply. Could that be the reason ????