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kpc
13-04-2006, 09:26 AM
Dear Chang,

Here are some guidelines for mods I have thought out last night to help you administer this forum more smoothly and fairly.

1. Mods should never call or sms a forumer and never go out for drinks or trips with any forumer(s)
I was shocked when mentioned that you called Orchi.
How do you know for sure that was Orchi or somebody else pretending to be Orchi? Please change your handphone number immediately.
Teh Tarik session for you is also a big no-no.
Don't be too friendly with any forumer, b'cos being frens can sway your judgement when the time comes to the crunch.
Imagine if a Judge should go on a holiday trip with a lawyer..... !


2. Mods must never participate in topics of discussions and give the mod's personal opinion on a topic
Too frequently you have been doing this and it is plain wrong.
It's like the government engaging in business and competing with other private businesses, also a big no no.


Please do not take this post personally, I don't.
This advice is given in the hope of improving our community.
If you feel you are unable to change, please consider passing on the baton.

idolfan
13-04-2006, 09:32 AM
kpc.. you seem to have lots of lepak time .. maybe you should cunsider admin a forum for like minded as yurself..

what were you smoking last nite when you thought up those guidelines?

Choon1980
13-04-2006, 10:24 AM
For #1, I wouldn't know anything about that.

For #2, some forums do this, some don't. So long as Chang is doesn't break the forum rules itself, I don't see why shouldn't he participate.

Your last two sentences implies that booting out Chang as our moderator will improve our community. Where did this come about? What is it about our community that needs to be improved?

PeterHng
13-04-2006, 10:31 AM
kpc, Chang is just a forum moderator NOT a Judicial Commissioner or a Justice. Therefore lay off ok with all your fancies and ideas. I think your advice is good for the Judiciary and not strictly applicable in our forum. Have a life ... :rolleyes:

orchipalar
13-04-2006, 10:37 AM
kpc.. you seem to have lots of lepak time .. maybe you should cunsider admin a forum for like minded as yurself..

what were you smoking last nite when you thought up those guidelines?Err...perhaps it would be better to suggest the chatterbox to him...

Ahem...don't know about any of you folks...but Orchi might have to run to the nearest pharmacy...to replenish the stock of paracetamol n panadols...

orchipalar
13-04-2006, 10:44 AM
Err...perhaps it would be better to suggest the chatterbox to him...

Ahem...don't know about any of you folks...but Orchi might have to run to the nearest pharmacy...to replenish the stock of paracetamol n panadols...Err Orchi...yeah that would be more appropriate...

n see how it goes in there...instead.

kpc
13-04-2006, 10:53 AM
Why is our dear Orchi talking to himself?
Spilt personality? :)

idolfan
13-04-2006, 10:55 AM
He is giving you a hint.. start a thread and chat with yurself. ;)

janelim
13-04-2006, 11:00 AM
Point #1 - Kesian our moderator la. He is still human and needs to interact with humans. be it over the telephone or makan, or socially.

Point #2 - Agree with kpc. let the discussions flow and moderator can come in later with the final decision or a conclusion to any matters.

Cheers
Just Me

orchipalar
13-04-2006, 11:03 AM
Err Orchi...yeah that would be more appropriate...

n see how it goes in there...instead.Err...yes come to think of it...he could join the chatterbox instead...

Ahem...where he could definitely find those with multiple personalities...like himself...perhaps.

SunwayKid
13-04-2006, 11:05 AM
It amazes me that despite being mocked and derided by your peers in many threads, you continue to concoct these execrable statements and drawing attention to yourself that shouldn’t be drawn. It is not my job to tell you how your peers perceive you. Maybe it is the mod, but probably not. Whilst your thoughts do provide some sort of entertainment and amuses some, you shouldn’t let your passions get the best of you. We rarely act intelligently when we are on medication of some kind.

Perhaps you are annoyed that the banana has still not been removed after what appears to be a very long time. An oversight by the mod, perhaps. One should never judge a man until one has walked a mile in his shoes – and the mod here has indeed walked many miles.

Were it not for a modest dose of self-awareness and common sense, the rest of us could be thinking just like you. And that, kpc, is a frightening thought.

La Vida Loca
13-04-2006, 11:13 AM
kpc, he's not paid la to do this, its volunteer work. Get off his case, you cannot tell people who they can or cannot call/sms or have drinks with....sheesh.

kwchang
13-04-2006, 11:27 AM
I find it amusing that kpc had put up these suggestions
I don't like to post during my office hours but I thought I'd let you know I have seen it.

One very important issue here is that this is not a commercial website run by faceless and nameless people that need to be dissociated with the members in order to be making objective decisions. We do the job as friends to everyone and we meet occasionally because this is run by neighbours for neighbours. This is a community website first and foremost. The reason I do things this way is because ultimately the members benefit from it all. As you see, where we had kept away from chit-chats in the past, I am now bending the rules to facilitate a chat channel for the more energetic young and young-at-heart members.

The reason for some regulations being imposed is to bring order to the system so that visitors don't come into a disorderly community. They should come into a warm, friendly but yet well managed online community.

What you have suggested is more suited to a police state.

I hope you see the difference.

By the way, you notice that you are still carrying a rotten banana. I can give you a fresh one and that will send you to the plantation ;) :) :D

Firefly
13-04-2006, 11:33 AM
What!!!! chang cannot join in the forum?? Where did you dig such rules from? 2 of the popular forum that firefly join in have all the mod in everything. from posting their views to having TT. What the problem?

Strange views.

chin_wan
13-04-2006, 11:41 AM
Rule #2 is just wrong. Just because someone is a mod does not mean that he is not entitled to his own opinion. If someone is a mod I trust his judgement and that he will be fair when moderating a thread. There is not reason for him to close a thread just because he does not agree with someone's opinion. I believe our mod is mature enough to differenciate an opinion and a bad remark.

kpc
13-04-2006, 12:01 PM
Dear Chang,

You have very quickly closed the thread on "Orchi's NickName".
What are you afraid of?

Since you have actually called Orchi on the phone, you are deemed too friendly with him to make the correct judgement in the interest of the forum and community.

I strongly advice that you step aside on this "Orchi's NickName" thread and allow an impartial moderator like Jeff Ooi to see it to conclusion.

This issue is very important to all of us.
If not concluded, I believe most forumers wouldn't want a perverted nick to make postings on their thread.

I thank you in advance for your most wise judgement.

leewinnie46
13-04-2006, 12:05 PM
Respect others as much as you respect yourself.

Anyone interested in the vacancy of admistrator ah ?

Chang, I always respect an administrator who pour out so much of time instead of family gathering , you even spare some time for someone you may not know in person , I sincerely thanks you for doing it....... I should always respect your decision and everyone decision as thought as i respect myself.

Choon1980
13-04-2006, 12:11 PM
I thank you in advance for your <b>most wise judgement</b>.

I assume you're being sarcastic here. If you really believed in this, then you wouldn't have challenged his decision to close the thread or participate in thread discussions.

evelynlim
13-04-2006, 12:20 PM
I'm a bit confused & blur about what is actually happening just like the Orchi's nickname thread that I have just read:confused: This is a community forum and we shouldn't attack one another. It's for us to share ideas & views & helping each other & make friends as well ;) I think Chang is taking his personal time to be a moderator to admin the forum with no extra incentive gaji & I don't see what is wrong with it. Being a forum moderator can't be friend friend with other forumer meh???

PeterHng
13-04-2006, 12:22 PM
Dear Chang,

You have very quickly closed the thread on "Orchi's NickName".
What are you afraid of?

Since you have actually called Orchi on the phone, you are deemed too friendly with him to make the correct judgement in the interest of the forum and community.

I strongly advice that you step aside on this "Orchi's NickName" thread and allow an impartial moderator like Jeff Ooi to see it to conclusion.

This issue is very important to all of us.
If not concluded, I believe most forumers wouldn't want a perverted nick to make postings on their thread.

I thank you in advance for your most wise judgement.

kpc, you don't speak for me and you don't have the interest of the forum and community at heart. Don't come and bulls**t here. If you have problems with Orchi, why don't you meet him face to face and thrash out whatever differences you may have with him... :mad:


Again, I'd like to reiterate, Chang's judgment so far is fair and good. No need for him to step aside ... :mad:

tan_r
13-04-2006, 12:23 PM
Wo ... wo ... wo ... suddenly you appear after a while of hiding and gunning for orch-san. What's your beef, man?


This issue is very important to all of us. .
Not us. Only you, please.


If not concluded, I believe most forumers wouldn't want a perverted nick to make postings on their thread.
Again, please speak for yourself. BTW, did you say perverted nick?

alexhay
13-04-2006, 12:36 PM
lets stop attacking someone in here ok...i believe that chang is doing a good job in maintaining this forum...

if you have the nuts between your leg, come out and say it out face to face...

dont hide yourself in here and keep on blasting the forum or the forumers...

mon
13-04-2006, 12:55 PM
Kpc. How are you keeping up? I remember you telling us that you were still searching for that special someone. Could this be an aftermath of what has yet to come true to you?

Just astounding me. Why such a keenness in someone else's nickname. I see you have gathered some points and done your homework but why such an eagerness? If I could say this without getting bombarded, you should get a life Kpc.. and meet more fun loving people.

Please don't end up to be like one of those people who never seem to get around to doing things. Perhaps joining the TTs would do you good. I'm dead serious. Have some fun. But not bothering others and yourself with someone else's nick such like this. Yes? And I have no big issues with Chang's moderation skills either.

tan_r
13-04-2006, 01:03 PM
.. I remember you telling us that you were still searching for that special someone.
Could it be that he has found that someone in our dear orchi? That he is seeking help to make sure that orchi is who he said he is? Before he makes the plunge? Aiyoh ... orchi chiak beh liao loh ... :D

mon
13-04-2006, 01:07 PM
Guys. Stick to facts only please.

pcyeoh
13-04-2006, 01:11 PM
I don't understand how Orchi's nickname can cause such a big fuss. If it is really true that his nickname is vulgar, so what. If you look at the Malaysian real names (don't talk about nicks) some are even worse that my grandmother, if she is alive today, would be blushing. The culprit unfortunately are Chinese names. One of them is (censored) ....... er er if I were to state some more examples here, Mr Chang would not hesitate to hurl one bunch of bananas to split me. No, it will not be banana split but pcyeoh split. So let us enjoy ourselves while we may and not split hairs here. Got to go for my lunch break now.

Rocky19
13-04-2006, 01:41 PM
kpc,

first about all of us. Maybe you have a group that you are talking on behalf and the group knows who they are. :rolleyes: So sorry, but please dont's use all of us. If you want to use 'us', name those people in your group. No need to be afraid, just come out in the open.

what's the issue with orchi's nick. We have gone thru this. It is Sarawak related.If you don't like it, too badlah. I like Orchi's nick and calling his kids little Orchis always makes me laugh. And I dare say most forumers have no issue with his nick as he has been having this nick for so long. We even call him Orchi when we meet him.

Someone told you to get a life. That is good suggestion. Your suggestion on rules are plain ridiculous!!! You know if you don't like it here go somewhere else. Better still start your own forum. Leave chang alone. We may or may not agree with him on all the issues but we don't have an issue with him meeting forumers, calling them etc. This is a community forum, we can interact in any way we see fit which includes meeting, talking over the phone etc.

orchi - sit back and count money in the wallet. :)

Timo
13-04-2006, 01:54 PM
Guys, why do we even need to acknowledge this (please insert suitable adjective of reader's choice) 'person'?

Forget about him/her. Kpc is not worth anyone's effort. We are merely fuelling the fire.

kpc
13-04-2006, 02:04 PM
I don't understand how Orchi's nickname can cause such a big fuss. If it is really true that his nickname is vulgar, so what. If you look at the Malaysian real names (don't talk about nicks) some are even worse that my grandmother, if she is alive today, would be blushing. The culprit unfortunately are Chinese names. One of them is (censored) ....... er er if I were to state some more examples here, Mr Chang would not hesitate to hurl one bunch of bananas to split me. No, it will not be banana split but pcyeoh split. So let us enjoy ourselves while we may and not split hairs here. Got to go for my lunch break now.

PC,

You are right. It is no big deal if the nick means something vulgar.
What we want to know is just whether Orchi knows it from the beginning or not. That is the beef.

For those of you who think that it's ok for the admin to be fren fren with forumers, this nickname episode already showcased the pitfalls of being too friendly with any forumer.

SS19flyover
13-04-2006, 02:08 PM
Are you tired.......

chenws
13-04-2006, 02:54 PM
Hi, I've not been here a long time. But this is interesting. :D

Kpc, you should reread all the thread and see the general opinion of others. Of course if you think you are still right then of course stand by it, after all you are entitled to voice it out. :)

idolfan
13-04-2006, 03:03 PM
Timo is right.. we are just giving kpc the attention he is seeking. Its sad but he needs professional help.

evelynlim
13-04-2006, 03:05 PM
PC,

You are right. It is no big deal if the nick means something vulgar.
What we want to know is just whether Orchi knows it from the beginning or not. That is the beef.

For those of you who think that it's ok for the admin to be fren fren with forumers, this nickname episode already showcased the pitfalls of being too friendly with any forumer.

Aiyah, all this just because of the nickname issues? Just like what Alexhay has mentioned, kpc I suggest you to discuss this face to face with Orchi & Chang and drop this topic from the forum, period! We better save time doing other things or discuss on other matters.

PeterHng
13-04-2006, 03:09 PM
lets stop attacking someone in here ok...i believe that chang is doing a good job in maintaining this forum...

if you have the nuts between your leg, come out and say it out face to face...

dont hide yourself in here and keep on blasting the forum or the forumers...

Alex, you may not be aware but we've met up with kpc in one of our monthly TT sessions last year. He looked decent (called himself Stephen Chow wor ..) and quite good natured as well but his postings were a bit way off many times. Not sure why but like some forumers said, he may need help, I mean, professional help ... :rolleyes:

alexhay
13-04-2006, 03:26 PM
oh ok..thanks peter for the info..:)

Rocky19
13-04-2006, 03:41 PM
alex,

there some photos of him, I guess under TT thread. Looks like Stephan Chow, yamsap version? ;) you decide. Ok guy with a very nice yamaha bike.

SunwayKid
13-04-2006, 03:42 PM
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I presume this is what Timo meant.

orchipalar
13-04-2006, 03:57 PM
Why is our dear Orchi talking to himself?
Spilt personality?
This issue is very important to all of us.
If not concluded, I believe most forumers wouldn't want a perverted nick to make postings on their thread.
PC, You are right. It is no big deal if the nick means something vulgar.
What we want to know is just whether Orchi knows it from the beginning or not. That is the beef.

For those of you who think that it's ok for the admin to be fren fren with forumers, this nickname episode already showcased the pitfalls of being too friendly with any forumer.Err...so Orchi...what did we spoke about the last time...that JohnMichael and LengHo...could be of the same person...with multiple personalities...

Ahem...since the nick issue has been cleared in the previous thread...both of them disappeared into the dark side of another distant cyberspace...never to be seen again...which was what everybody thinks...err...well guess not...eh

Err...looks like this time...he could be back with a bigger V-vengence...by first resorting back to his old ways of name calling you...again.

Ahem...amacham...so how?

orchipalar
13-04-2006, 04:08 PM
Could it be that he has found that someone in our dear orchi? That he is seeking help to make sure that orchi is who he said he is? Before he makes the plunge? Aiyoh ... orchi chiak beh liao loh ... :DErr Orchi...Tan_R may have a valid suspicion...what do ya think...ahem...would it be safe to say that he could either be...err...somewhat obsessed...or he may be envious...or even possible that he is really jealous of ya...???

PeterHng
13-04-2006, 04:12 PM
Err Orchi...Tan_R may have a valid suspicion...what do ya think...ahem...would it be safe to say that he could either be...err...somewhat obsessed...or he may be envious...or even possible that he is really jealous of ya...???

Or he may like you orchi .... stalking in cyberspace :p

(How to get restraining order ?? Chang?)

kwchang
13-04-2006, 04:13 PM
Time to close this discussion that is going no where.