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orchipalar
31-03-2006, 05:50 PM
Err...so now IF Orchi flies MAS to East Malaysia...Orchi would need to drive to the Main Terminal Building in KLIA...park the car at the multistorey carpark complex...to check in at the departure hall at the main terminal...as usual is it...???

Err...what would happen IF Orchi flies back from East Malaysia the next day...with Air Asia...???

kokomo
31-03-2006, 05:53 PM
Orchi, if u flies back from East M'sia wif Air Asia .. your car will still be parked at the same spot. So state your point la .. hehe ..

SS19flyover
31-03-2006, 05:57 PM
why i like LCCT is i dont need to walk miles away to the waiting gate. for LCCT it is right behind the check in counter, i love it.

http://static.flickr.com/43/120632286_a4672ecec0_o.jpg

http://static.flickr.com/41/120632285_cf3d4024fb_o.jpg

kokomo
31-03-2006, 06:10 PM
Really??? cool :cool:

Teeque
31-03-2006, 06:17 PM
The LCCT is 20 min drive away frm the KLIA terminal. KLIA shuttle buses shuttle to and fro between these terminals at 15 min intervals. So if you parked at the Main KLIA Terminal and took an AirAsia flight back frm East Malaysia, you will hv to take the shuttle bus frm the LCCT back to the Main Terminal to get your car.

Another alternative is to park your car in Sentral and take the ERL frm there. ERL offers a one day free parking when you purchase an ERL ticket. On your return by AirAsia, take the SkyBus shuttle frm LCCT to Sentral at RM9 and then retrieve ur car there.

Jose Mourinho
31-03-2006, 06:46 PM
Have used it twice. Teething problems here and there but as Flyover said, it has its good points. Car park is very near to the terminal. It is just like a small airport in a small town.

achee
31-03-2006, 08:54 PM
Actually quite convenient. Achee been there twice. Problems, as Jose mentioned, sure ada punya.

+ points
1. parking, as per today, still free
2. short walk between parking & terminal

- points
1. food is as expensive as KLIA main terminal
2. no ATM machine
3. you can expect delay in flights. My pilot-cousin said there's only one route for taxiing aircraft from the bay to the runaway


I was also at KLIA main terminal... that so-called elite one la. The cold airport is now even colder. No much crowd as usual. Wonder why the LCCT need to be built while what we have is still under utilised.... :confused:
then, must be in operation before Singapore's .... :confused: :confused:

patrick
31-03-2006, 09:51 PM
2. no ATM machine
:confused:

No ATM????? Take a walk along the corridor connecting the domestic departure and arrival hall. You will see the ATM machine!

orchipalar
01-04-2006, 01:47 AM
+ points
1. parking, as per today, still free
2. short walk between parking & terminal

- points
1. food is as expensive as KLIA main terminal
2. no ATM machine
3. you can expect delay in flights. My pilot-cousin said there's only one route for taxiing aircraft from the bay to the runaway

I was also at KLIA main terminal... that so-called elite one la. The cold airport is now even colder. No much crowd as usual. Wonder why the LCCT need to be built while what we have is still under utilised.... :confused:
then, must be in operation before Singapore's .... :confused: :confused:Err...dear Achee:)...Orchi is just as confused...

n how the heck the gomen could announce n claim recently that...the LCC Terminal is capable of handling 10 millions passengers per annum...ahem...why they think the 10 millions passengers were like ants ar.....err...who are they kidding with lar...?????

Orchi's point is this...should Orchi chooses to drive...would it be better for Orchi to drive straight to the LCC Terminal...to park the car there...n then take a freaking shuttle bus across 20mins(??) ride to the KLIA main terminal...in order to catch the MAS flight...ahem...this way...on the return trip back with AirAsia...Orchi would just have to walk a short distance to get to the car...right???

But then again...is the carpark at the LCC Terminal...covered ones...how about security matter...is it safer there or safer to park at the KLIA main terminal...???

Ahem...don't forget...Orchi drives a 4X4 which is more prone to be a target of car thefts... :rolleyes:

In this case...Orchi's flight is the 1st earliest flight out with MAS...which requires Orchi to check in before 4:30hr in the morning...

Err...are there any shuttle buses between the KLIA main n LCC terminals...that runs in that early hours...?????? :confused:

or would it be better perhaps just take the freaking cabs instead...

but then again...geez...the charges would be like burning a bigger hole in Orchi's already...err...thin pockets... :rolleyes:

Teeque
01-04-2006, 02:20 AM
Some info abt the LCCT frm their website (http://klia.com.my/LCCTerminal/LCCmap.html).

Some says its 15 min away frm KLIA, some says 20 min away, I think it depends on ur driving speed or the bus speeds. The LCCT is somewhat similar to the old Terminal 3 at Subang where the open-space parking is right in front of the terminal. Since the parking operator is not appointed yet, safety and security at the carpark is compromised. But then, even if with a parking operator, there are no guarantees of security at the carpark, or any other carparks for that matter.

Jose Mourinho
01-04-2006, 08:16 AM
Err...dear Achee:)...Orchi is just as confused...

n how the heck the gomen could announce n claim recently that...the LCC Terminal is capable of handling 10 millions passengers per annum...ahem...why they think the 10 millions passengers were like ants ar.....err...who are they kidding with lar...?????

Orchi's point is this...should Orchi chooses to drive...would it be better for Orchi to drive straight to the LCC Terminal...to park the car there...n then take a freaking shuttle bus across 20mins(??) ride to the KLIA main terminal...in order to catch the MAS flight...ahem...this way...on the return trip back with AirAsia...Orchi would just have to walk a short distance to get to the car...right???

But then again...is the carpark at the LCC Terminal...covered ones...how about security matter...is it safer there or safer to park at the KLIA main terminal...???

Ahem...don't forget...Orchi drives a 4X4 which is more prone to be a target of car thefts... :rolleyes:

In this case...Orchi's flight is the 1st earliest flight out with MAS...which requires Orchi to check in before 4:30hr in the morning...

Err...are there any shuttle buses between the KLIA main n LCC terminals...that runs in that early hours...?????? :confused:

or would it be better perhaps just take the freaking cabs instead...

but then again...geez...the charges would be like burning a bigger hole in Orchi's already...err...thin pockets... :rolleyes:

The LCC has just started operations. Give it a bit of time and water will find its own level. You have raised many salient points but have you ever wonder that they may be personal to you only and as such, many others may not see the need to analyse and break down of processes from driving from house to airport, fly, fly back and back to house as in a Honda car assembly plant. This is real life. As in real life there are too many variables and life is just that. We take some and we give some.

Air Asia has been fighting for its own terminal building. I am sure Fernandez is no fool and as I said, once its teething problems are over, everything should work out - perhaps not to the individual satisfaction of every single individual in this country, but it should work out.

Just my view and no offence intended.

:)

AllUrban
01-04-2006, 11:58 AM
With MAS shutting down many domestic routes, and with Air Asia moving out of their gates at the main KLIA terminal, who will replace them?

which airlines are going to fill those empty gates?

Or is KLIA going to be running at low capacity for a few years.

Maybe they are hoping that the fees (and passengers) from the giant Airbus A380s will cover their costs.....or maybe they can shut down the satellite terminal for a while, save on aerotrain maintenance as well :p

Any knowledge of the MAHBhd or KLIA 5 year and 10 year plans?

Cheers, m

orchipalar
01-04-2006, 12:58 PM
Err...already the taxi sapu blokes...are haunting the LCC Terminal...praying on the poor passengers...

n now with expected delays possibly due to limited runway access...n a load of other problems...some more...when? or would it ever get up in gears...to handle 10 millions passengers...!

Do we really need the LCC terminal in the first place???...or was it just a mean for more money to be siphoned n wasted...???

Ahem...next they would be calling the gomen to build a separate runway to cater for the freaking new LCC Terminal...at a cost of many millions more....(more peruntukan to sapu more la...Orchi)

Err...we had a proven facility....n much of it was still intact in the old Subang Airport...what's the freaking logic of having to separate the LCC Terminal...eventually now by 20 kilos away from the current KLIA(???)...when Air Asia had wanted to use the old Subang Airport at the time...it was shot down...!!!(use old terminal...just with minor upgrades...would cost less...so got less peruntukan from gomen mah Orchi...you blur ar??...use new facility...can sapu more wat...):rolleyes:

Ahem...where got logic one...having to pay mostly...between RM9.99 to RM599.99 for a ticketless n meal-less flight...but need to pay no less than 150 bucks to pay for transport n airport taxes...just to get there...to n fro??...n they call it what...budget air travel ar...??? :rolleyes:

AllUrban
01-04-2006, 01:41 PM
Ahem...where got logic one...having to pay mostly...between RM9.99 to RM599.99 for a ticketless n meal-less flight...but need to pay no less than 150 bucks to pay for transport n airport taxes...just to get there...to n fro??...n they call it what...budget air travel ar...??? :rolleyes:

That's business logic...it all comes down to the problem of privatization...you care only about your sliver of the pie, everything else is "someone else's problem" and as long as those problems are "Not In My BackYard" the average person is happy.

Ahhh the SEP...where would the world be without SEP...."once I shove you out the door, you become somebody else's problem"

Air Asia is not making those taxes and charges...another company is. Air Asia is not profiting by making you go out to Sepang to fly...other companies are.

Air Asia is profiting by keeping their costs very low so they can keep fares low...but I guess customers arent realizing that when they pay RM for an Air Asia low fare ticket, they are also paying the taxi co, (or Skybus or KLIA Ekxpress or KTMB), PLUS, and Malaysian Airport Holdings Bhd.

It's not budget travel or low cost travel...just "low fare" travel.

Cheers, m

cskok8
01-04-2006, 03:05 PM
Orchi,

Of course must build new terminal. Otherwise how to "stimulate the economy". BTW our great transport minister already said a few months ago that the KLIA satellite building is "fully utilized" and we should start planning for a new one. :mad:

Plus the aerotrains are getting old, tired and expensive to maintain. Maybe time to buy new one also.

Jose Mourinho
01-04-2006, 04:56 PM
Of course must build new terminal. Otherwise how to "stimulate the economy". BTW our great transport minister already said a few months ago that the KLIA satellite building is "fully utilized" and we should start planning for a new one. :mad: Plus the aerotrains are getting old, tired and expensive to maintain. Maybe time to buy new one also.

Cskok. You are absolutely correct. I heard that they are going to build Petronas Twin-Towers 2 but it will be the tallest building in the world until the year 2500 (they are taking no chances this time but go for the max by building a 2000 floors of office space on top of a 1000 metres high shopping complex).

orchipalar
01-04-2006, 07:18 PM
Err...they say...the truth to the pudding is in the eating...

Ahem...soon enough when the time comes...Orchi would sample the so called new LCC terminal punya facility n services...to see if what they claim...would be reasonable...or out of this world... :rolleyes:

PeterHng
01-04-2006, 09:53 PM
Will be using the LCCT next week. Let's see how it functions. Hope I can find the way there (better take a taxi since nobody is sending me there and security of carpark may be an issue) ... ;)

Rocky19
02-04-2006, 01:04 AM
Hv used the terminal.Not much issues the 1st time. There were touts when I walked out of the terminal at 1am and they were helpful, pointing out where the taxi line was to those with taxi coupons. The only problem I see if there is rain,boarding the plane becomes an issue. Old folks may need to walk some distance to get to the planes, that can be a problem as well.If you are driving directly to the LCC terminal, the distanceis not too bad. If you are shuttling between terminals, well...plan ahead

The terminal looks nice and simple. Air Asia flew 700k passengers per month average on some financials they put out lately if I remember correctly.Hitting 10million if that is the case, should not be a problem. But those who want to have multiple air line flights, well you just need to plan ahead, give yourself lots of time. There are buses for connection between the main KLIA terminal and the LCC one. Either that, fly only one airline if viable. Or if it is only peninsular, than just drive. No issue of high taxi fares(there is skybus from Sentral RM9/trip). There are choices.

Air Asia need the terminal to maintain their lower cost, which is surely good for their books. And hopefully helps to keep the fares low as well.

Peter,

There are ample signs to the LCC terminal. Just head towards the F1 circuit. Parking, so far have not heard anything bad. But where in Malaysia is parking 100% guarantee no thefts. Have a good trip.

sinleong
02-04-2006, 02:48 AM
The terminal looks nice and simple. Air Asia flew 700k passengers per month average on some financials they put out lately if I remember correctly.Hitting 10million if that is the case, should not be a problem.

The 700k passengers include those flying in-out of Jakarta, Bangkok, Singapore and KK which do not go through KLIA such as between Bangkok and Macau etc. I think they're trying to get figures out of other budget airlines as well...

sinleong
02-04-2006, 02:52 AM
personally i think they should have connected the LCCT with the main KLIA terminal to increase usage of the ERL..it's so under-utilized as it is. it's also terribly in-convenient if you have to transfer flights between both terminals especially when MAS do not fly to most domestic destinations anymore, passengers returning from overseas and want to connect to their hometowns have to lug themselves and their hand luggage across to the LCCT

AllUrban
02-04-2006, 01:02 PM
personally i think they should have connected the LCCT with the main KLIA terminal to increase usage of the ERL..it's so under-utilized as it is. it's also terribly in-convenient if you have to transfer flights between both terminals especially when MAS do not fly to most domestic destinations anymore, passengers returning from overseas and want to connect to their hometowns have to lug themselves and their hand luggage across to the LCCT

In that case, what would be needed would be an automated people mover similar to the existing Aerotrain.

The Aerotrain itself was designed by ADTranz (same co. that built the STAR LRT)...ADTranz was taken over by Bombardier...so interesting side note, all of the LRT lines in KL are using technology that is now owned by Bombardier...and I pity KL for that reason, because we have the same problem in Toronto :p

Toronto has a new automated people mover (http://www.dcc.at/upload/prj1/5_1/dcc_improving_mobility.pdf) to connect between terminals that might prove useful for KLIA. It is elevated and lighter (http://www.globalphotos.org/toronto/20041114/DSCN3668.jpg) than that concrete design used by the current Aerotrain.

On the other hand, could you imagine a sleek airport people mover (http://ktransit.com/transit/uslakes/Detroit/dtw-pm-air-102804-09.jpg) like the one at Detroit's new terminal, which is located inside the terminal (http://ktransit.com/transit/uslakes/Detroit/dtw-pm-air-102804-07.jpg)

But the problem is, if an automated people mover were built...it wouldnt be a low cost terminal anymore :(

Cheers, m

AllUrban
02-04-2006, 01:53 PM
9MP Report: KLIA expansion to meet soaring demand (http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/nst/Saturday/Features/20060401110723/Article/index_html)

This is hard to believe, especially the plans at the bottom of the article....hiking trails...nature preserve... :confused:

Cheers, m

April 1:
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One would have thought the Kuala Lumpur International Airport can accommodate passenger loads for the next 10 or 20 years.


Not so. The KLIA will reach its maximum capacity of 25 million passengers per annum in two years and the 9MP has taken cognizance of this.

Transport Minister Datuk Seri Chan Kong Choy says more than 23 million passengers used the airport last year.

“With the opening of the lowcost carrier terminal recently, there is no pressing need to expand facilities in KLIA immediately. However, in view of the increase in passenger volume, we have to start planning now,” he added.

Passenger traffic is forecast to reach 54.5 million passengers in 2010.

Under the 9MP, the Government will build an additional runway and another satellite building.

At present, the 10,000 hectare airport has one satellite building and two 4,000 metre-long runways. So far, about 25 per cent of the 10,000 ha area has been developed.

Chan says there is sufficient land to develop facilities to handle up to 100 million passengers a year, four runways and two mega-terminals,each with two linked satellite buildings.

Communications and navigation equipment for air traffic control such as radar, flight processing and voice recording equipment as well as aeronautical information will also be upgraded to cope with the increasing number of flights to the airport.

The Government will continue to negotiate for additional traffic rights under the liberal or open sky policy with other countries.

Future plans for the airport include hiking trails for jet-lagged travellers, a golf course, a theme park, a shopping centre, hotels and a wetlands nature preserve.

sirgalahad2010
02-04-2006, 01:56 PM
I think I read somewhere about the head honcho of Siemens Msia saying that they had a proposal in to extend the Express Rail Link from KL Sentral to the LCCT. I don't know how they will configure this route and who will pay for it.

I would be happier if MAS and AirAsia could agree on inter-operability of their computer systems so that there could be a smooth and seamless transfer of passengers and luggage between MAS and AirAsia flights. That would go a long way in the competition against Changi's Budget Terminal. Incidentally, I saw the Changi BT the other day - it doesn't look impressive, more like an army barracks!

layman
02-04-2006, 03:36 PM
I think I read somewhere about the head honcho of Siemens Msia saying that they had a proposal in to extend the Express Rail Link from KL Sentral to the LCCT. I don't know how they will configure this route and who will pay for it.

I would be happier if MAS and AirAsia could agree on inter-operability of their computer systems so that there could be a smooth and seamless transfer of passengers and luggage between MAS and AirAsia flights. That would go a long way in the competition against Changi's Budget Terminal. Incidentally, I saw the Changi BT the other day - it doesn't look impressive, more like an army barracks!

competition between changi and kl LCC aiport?

nothing to compete-both LCC airports are underutilised at the moment with only a single LCC carrier at their depot

malaysia literally built the LCC airport for AA.feasible or viable?
singapore erected the LCC ostensibly for thai AA tiger and jetstar.only tiger is using the airport

perhaps for intra asean travel,the LCC can score a coup against national airlines.however with conventional airlines dominating the highly lucrative european and australian routes with feeder intra asean service provided for by their respective alliance partners,its going to be an uphill task 'stealing' traffic from the establsihed players

i dont think the airports are going to be profitable with a single client.more importantly,the million dollar question -do we need a LCC airport?
malaysia may be the hometurf to the most successful LCC in asia but does the traffic generated justifies the expenditure of billions for the airport

simple question?whats the return on investment in 5 10 20 years?

smoothead
02-04-2006, 09:07 PM
That's business logic...it all comes down to the problem of privatization...you care only about your sliver of the pie, everything else is "someone else's problem" and as long as those problems are "Not In My BackYard" the average person is happy.

Ahhh the SEP...where would the world be without SEP...."once I shove you out the door, you become somebody else's problem"

Air Asia is not making those taxes and charges...another company is. Air Asia is not profiting by making you go out to Sepang to fly...other companies are.

Air Asia is profiting by keeping their costs very low so they can keep fares low...but I guess customers arent realizing that when they pay RM for an Air Asia low fare ticket, they are also paying the taxi co, (or Skybus or KLIA Ekxpress or KTMB), PLUS, and Malaysian Airport Holdings Bhd.

It's not budget travel or low cost travel...just "low fare" travel.

Cheers, m

I guess there are ulterior motives for this new terminal. Everyone wants a piece of the pie mah... You see, they know Airasia is making money so they also jump on the bandwagon. Build the new LCCT farther away, start another company operating the Express this , Express that... , give another conssesionaire the right to operate other what have you... when it comes to making easy money, they will somehow or rather find a way.

orchipalar
02-04-2006, 10:42 PM
9MP Report: KLIA expansion to meet soaring demand (http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/nst/Saturday/Features/20060401110723/Article/index_html)

This is hard to believe, especially the plans at the bottom of the article....hiking trails...nature preserve... :confused:

Cheers, m

April 1:
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One would have thought the Kuala Lumpur International Airport can accommodate passenger loads for the next 10 or 20 years.

Not so. The KLIA will reach its maximum capacity of 25 million passengers per annum in two years and the 9MP has taken cognizance of this.

Transport Minister Datuk Seri Chan Kong Choy says more than 23 million passengers used the airport last year.

Under the 9MP, the Government will build an additional runway and another satellite building.

Future plans for the airport include hiking trails for jet-lagged travellers, a golf course, a theme park, a shopping centre, hotels and a wetlands nature preserve.Err...dear AllUrban:)...see what did Orchi say before...it's all too predictable...n like the other freaking ministers...this one also wanna sapu as much as...err...inhumanely possible in this freaking lifetime...who gives a shiit about prolonged national debts...

Should anyone wanna check out the old site of the former international airport at Subang terminal 1...one would realize that the freaking gomen...can NOT even leave the old facility alone...or adapt to using it for other better purpose...than to destroy it completely...to make way for some freaking exhibition centre...which never materialize yet after so many years...

Err...what a waste of public funds...having to tear it all down for nothing...:rolleyes:

Ahem...besides they have been planning to move the existing military airforce base at Sg. Besi(which is currently situated in the centre of KL having the next greatest potential to be developed into prime commercial properties)...to the proposed NEW airforce base site in Bentong...or something like that...

evelynlim
03-04-2006, 11:57 AM
Hv used the terminal.Not much issues the 1st time.


Hi Rocky19, may I know how long is the journey fr SJ to the LCCT? Previously it took me less than 1 hr to KLIA, is LCCT further? Need to know this so that I know what time to call for the taxi. Tks.

Jose Mourinho
03-04-2006, 11:58 AM
Hi Rocky19, may I know how long is the journey fr SJ to the LCCT? Previously it took me less than 1 hr to KLIA, is LCCT further? Need to know this so that I know what time to call for the taxi. Tks.

About same distance. But to me, it seems to be a longer drive but that was probably because I was going slower as I wasn't sure of the location.

Rocky19
03-04-2006, 12:15 PM
Hi Rocky19, may I know how long is the journey fr SJ to the LCCT? Previously it took me less than 1 hr to KLIA, is LCCT further? Need to know this so that I know what time to call for the taxi. Tks.
evelyn,

It takes another 5-10mins longer than to KLCC, depending on how fast you drive. It is longer in terms of distance but not by much if you are going direct from SJ to LCCT.

Looks like they have rearranged the seats, which makes lining up at the gates more orderly. But for one or two gates, the seats are still in the way. I did notice that they now call for boarding only 5 mins before departure time.Most people tend to line up 20-30mins before the departure time in order to get the seats they want I guess.

lord
03-04-2006, 02:11 PM
I like to share with you guys something on the aerotrain.

Back in the late 90's, while working for an MNC involved in the servicing and maintenance of electrical equipments, we were servicing KLIA's aerotrain's traction motors. I was the person who secured the account and was managing the account until I left that MNC. KLIA had nuts working for them. They didn't have a clue why the motors were breaking down so often. Carbon brushes were shedding unevenly. The commutator was having grooves on them, which is very abnormal. (These are parts in a traction motor)

When I left and joined a German outfit with the same nature of business, KLIA followed and the headache continued haunting me. Breakdowns at wee hours in the morning, unachivable delivery demands, reduction in price etc. These guys at KLIA Engineering were nuts. They couldn't understand when we told them that we cannot return the motors in 24hours when that is the duration we need to dismantle the bloody units!!

As the breakdowns were frequent and we having warranty claims every 3 months when in actual fact it was no fault of ours, the Germans just couldn't heck it. We did a study on the motors and found them to be undersized for the usage. It was design failure. Guess what KLIA did when we submitted the report? They bought 12 spare motors from Bombardier. 4 guys went over to Canada to evaluate, study, bla bla bla, 12 units when they actually need a max of 8 should all the motors fail at one go.

It was really a very silly thing to do. Nevermind that, the 4 guys came back with tools enough to do basic maintenance on these motors. Mind you, traction motors are different than your normal AC or DC motors. A little bit tedious, these guys.

And for the past 3 years or so, no motor maintenance company is servicing their motors. It is all done inhouse. When I read the aerotrain breakdown recently, I called the manager and true enough, our guess was right. The motors have NEVER been overhauled. They have been stomaching the changing of brushes but no cleaning, oven baking to get the insulation resistance up, no bearing change etc. To do these, they need large equipments and they don't have it.

The next time you are at the satellite building waiting for the train, you can see their workshop which is under the tracks. That is where they dismantle the units from under the carriage and service them.

From where I stand, more disruptions are coming their way.

Firefly
03-04-2006, 02:40 PM
Typical local service tech.

AllUrban
03-04-2006, 04:16 PM
I like to share with you guys something on the aerotrain.

From where I stand, more disruptions are coming their way.

IIRC, ADTranz, the German consortium that manufactures the Aerotrain and STAR Line, had major problems with their equipment in the past.

ADTranz teamed up with a Canadian company (not 100% sure but I believe it was a GLC called UTDC - Urban Transport Development Corp.) on a project to build a magnetic levitation train (similar to the train in Shanghai, also built by a German co.).

This project was unsuccessful in developing Magnetic levitation trains. What came out of that project was the linear induction motor design which is currently used on the Kelana Jaya line.

This LIM technology is only being used in 5 cities in the world...it is a very complicated, high maintenance design. The train is pulled along by a magnetic current that operates in the metal track in between the rails.

Bombardier (a snowmobile and recreational equipment company from Canada) expanded into a MNC buy taking over other companies. They took over UTDC and ADTranz assets years ago, and merged them into their rail division. They took over Canadair and DeHavilland and merged them into their Aerospace division.

They are a Canadian company but..........there's not really much to be proud of.

Cheers, m

Rocky19
04-04-2006, 10:21 AM
lord,

I know someone who does a great job in rewinding motors etc.International standard. Maybe we can talks business when I'm back. ;)

Firefly
04-04-2006, 10:30 AM
Not so easy to rewind them Servo motors and Universal motors. The normal shops lack the balancing equipment required for them.

lord
04-04-2006, 10:57 AM
Rocky, sure can one. Hopefully they don't rewind motors in some backyard joint in Bukit Rajah lah... ;)

Yeah, servo motors are a problem and very few actually 'touch' them because of the test instruments required. Not to sound as though I'm canvassing, we have a very knowledgable guy on servo motors. In fact, most of the electronic industry who use servo's rely on us for service. I think in your line of work, Firefly, you guys use servo motors more.

sorry for the sidetrack, folks.

Firefly
04-04-2006, 11:34 AM
Not yet on a large scale except for a few in them welding robots. So far it's them harmonic gear that kaputs. :eek:

sirgalahad2010
04-04-2006, 11:54 AM
So the aero trains in KLIA are inherently bound to fail?

Seems to me that someone should be writing about this to the NST or The Star.

We can't let them (meaning MAB and the train suppliers) get away with this. :mad:

achee
06-04-2006, 01:26 PM
Just arrived at LCC from alor star an hour ago. Guess what ... under the hot sun, i mean very hot sun, we had to walk some 300m (maybe more) to the terminal, no shade, no umbrella, some 4.5 kg of personal goods, flight from alor star delayed by 1hour, bla-bla-bla-bla.. :D


Phew.......... bad experience today. For that matter, Long Pasia airport maybe better that our KLIA-LCC terminal.

orchipalar
06-04-2006, 01:32 PM
Phew.......... bad experience today. I believe Long Pasia airport maybe better that our KLIA-LCC terminal.Err...dear Achee:)...yes understood what ya mean...Orchi came back being disappointed with the LCCT as well...ahem...accommodate comfortably 10 millions passengers?...no way jose...!@!...unless they intended to shove us around like herds of pigs...:rolleyes:

Ahem...the airports at the interiors are much better off...at least there is more hospitality...n considerations for the elders n kids...

Err...imagine having to manhandle your hand luggages...with a couple of kids around your arms...going thru the freaking LCCT... :rolleyes:

Jose Mourinho
06-04-2006, 01:34 PM
I have used it three times and I have good experiences. So how ar? So I am telling lies meh?

Seriously. I look at it in the context of a low cost carrier airport and thus I do not attempt to make comparison with KLIA or other airports. I always look at things in its correct perspectives and thus I do not have unusually high or erroneous expectations of what things should be (to my personal liking). But then, what do I know? I am just a kampung boy who got a distinction in Woodwork in his GCE. I am no ISO certified expert and neither am I used to getting things done my way because I am just a small fly in a huge corporation. Perhaps if I were the CEO or some big shot, then I can dictate things to exist and evolve around me. Until that day comes, I guess I just have to keep quiet and enjoy my little perspectives of life.

And believe me, I am a very happy and contented person because I don't believe that the world evolves around me.

:)

orchipalar
06-04-2006, 01:42 PM
I have used it three times and I have good experiences. So how ar? I am telling lies meh?Err...you would be a healthy man...travelling with your briefcase...ahem...unless you could be limping... shoved across the accesses...up n down the staircase or steps...between the terminal n the awaiting plane...n onto the aircraft seat...boarding in a wheelchair pushed by Angelina Jolie(a tomb raider?)...or somebody like that...

Jose Mourinho
06-04-2006, 01:48 PM
Err...you would be a healthy man...travelling with your briefcase...ahem...unless you could be limping... shoved across the accesses...up n down the staircase or steps...between the terminal n the awaiting plane...n onto the aircraft seat...boarding in a wheelchair pushed by Angelina Jolie...or somebody like that...

Na. It needs not be Angelina Jolie only. There are many absolutely beautiful, gorgeous, kind-hearted and intelligent women in Malaysia - and in this forum.

Rocky19
06-04-2006, 02:23 PM
I did see an old lady in a wheel chair being assisted by air asia staff(a guy) during boarding. She had priority to board and got on the same flight I did. She had to walk up the flight of stairs to the plane thou. That can be difficult for wheel chair bound ppl. That is one negative issue at LCCT, but is true of all small airports be it in Europe or here. Anyway Malaysia is not disabled friendly.

Children and senior citizen do get to board first. I'm not sure what one would like from the LCCT.There is always a choice, don't use Air Asia thus no need to use the LCCT.And everyone can go about their merry way.

The other thing I saw that day was the immigration area on your return from overseas is small. If the terminal is at capacity or even 75% capacity, this can become a problem.

achee
06-04-2006, 05:35 PM
Just wanna know .... achee very ignorant one, you know la...

Why wasn't gud 'ol subang airport not converted to be the LCCT on the first place? I believed this issue was covered some time ago ... but as usual, achee missed it.

And to Jose, achee fly with no frills la... but being herded to walk over an unreasonable distant (actually a guide took us along some kind of track, one big round before entering the terminal), can really make you boil at 12.30pm.

orchipalar
06-04-2006, 07:33 PM
Err...the airline boasts that..."now everyone can fly..."...sure thing.

Ahem...the freaking LCCT just made it harder...:rolleyes:

patrick
06-04-2006, 07:41 PM
I have used the LCCT and I have no major problems. The only snag was I was departing around lunch time and the only two restaurants there were packed to the brim. To those who want a quick and simple (and slightly cheaper) meal, go into the departure lounge area, and buy your ready to eat snack there. There are seatings and the snacks are neatly packed in cold cabinets. No frills!

AllUrban
24-01-2007, 10:50 AM
Hi all

I was at Subang Parade yesterday, and noticed a sign indicating that there is a shuttle bus service from Subang Parade to the LCCT at KLIA.

The bus departs from the Digital One entrance (Jalan SS16/1 the back of Subang Parade).

The fare is RM9 one way.

More info at Subang Parade.

Cheers, m