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Dr. J George
13-03-2006, 01:53 PM
BERNAMA REPORT:

Flood Mitigation In Shah Alam Needs RM350 Million

SHAH ALAM, March 12 (Bernama) -- The Selangor government needs RM350 million to implement a more effective flood mitigation project in Shah Alam which was hit by a massive flood that affected thousands of homes at the end of last month.

Shah Alam Mayor Datuk Ramli Mahmud said the Selangor Drainage and Irrigation Department (DID) had asked for the allocation from the federal government.

"DID had appointed a consultant to make an assessment of the areas near the rivers and after that it will decide on the construction of a pump house and floodgate," he told reporters after launching the Shah Alam Residents Sports Carnival at Universiti Teknologi Mara (UiTM) Sunday.

The amount asked earlier from the federal government was RM291 million but this was considered insufficient after the latest flood experience, he said.

He said the long-term project would involve the construction of stronger and higher bunds to keep out the overflow from rivers during heavy rain.

Several pump houses and floodgates would also be built, he said, adding that the Shah Alam City Council had also allocated RM10 million for deepening the Damansara River and building a pump house at Taman TTDI Jaya which was the worst affected by the flood last month.

On waste disposal, he said a waste transfer station would be built at Section 21 here to compact the garbage collected before it was sent to the Bukit Tagar landfill in Rawang.


JG response:

My consultants say this is "over priced", utter rubbish and will not serve the the real issue of floods as nothing is been done to address the following:

* Over-development around the Sungai Damansara catchments area.

* The river could not even be widened as most of its reserves had been developed.

* The massive development upstream of Sungai Damansara, Sungai Pencala and Sungai Air Kuning – particularly the Bukit Cerakah and Kota Damansara projects – is causing heavy siltation in the river.

* The Sungai Damansara catchment area is almost fully developed, except for two green lungs at Taman Pertanian Bukit Cerakah and Taman Botani near Sungai Buloh.

These revelations clearly contradict the statements of the Selangor State government and put the cause of the floods and future floods on “over-development” and clearly show that present legislation pertaining to development and construction may have been violated.

But the pertinent question remains - in the 'semua nya ok state' - whose companies will become beneficaries of this RM350 sought after allocation?

Jose Mourinho
13-03-2006, 02:01 PM
Why is it that every time after something has gone wrong, we will always call in the consultants? Does it mean that all those years of development before, consultants were never called upon?

:confused:

Dr. J George
13-03-2006, 02:17 PM
Very good question Jose! :)

I think it has got to do with $$$$$ and making more millionaires (by suspect means) in the 'semua nya ok state' at the ppl's expense and misery! :eek:

And the country getting screwed big time and their banks getting merged all over again n again with strange bedfellows! :rolleyes:

sirgalahad2010
13-03-2006, 02:31 PM
Wat's bank mergers got to do with floods?

Oh, you are talking about the BCB-SBB thingy, aren't you? Seems to me that Tan Teong Hean of SBB is apparently throwing in the towel (see S Jayasankaran's report in today's Spore Business Times).

Oh, yes - it also seems that Tan will receive a "golden handshake" of RM20 million for his contribution to SBB (as per the Business Times report). So, he's not likely to cry all the way to the bank!

Having said that, RM350 million is a lot of dinero for a flood alleviation scheme. I suppose that the consultants were selected through an open tender exercise, and the contractors for this project will also be selected through open tender?

Get the NST to run an expose on the whole affair. That will show K T and co. that the rakyat are wise to what's going on. At the very least, it will make the PM re-look at K T's report card! :D

xaviers
13-03-2006, 03:09 PM
"equitable" distribution of wealth.

Jose Mourinho
13-03-2006, 03:55 PM
Oh, you are talking about the BCB-SBB thingy, aren't you? Seems to me that Tan Teong Hean of SBB is apparently throwing in the towel (see S Jayasankaran's report in today's Spore Business Times). Oh, yes - it also seems that Tan will receive a "golden handshake" of RM20 million for his contribution to SBB (as per the Business Times report). So, he's not likely to cry all the way to the bank! :D

Tan Sri Tan Teong Hean has singly built up Southern Bank Group for over 20 years. He is a successful entrepreneur and it is very disrespectful to pass a comment such as 'he's not likely to cry all the way to the bank'. Don't you agree? Or perhaps I read you wrongly and you were actually feeling elated for him. If so, then I do apologize most sincerely.

:)

pcyeoh
13-03-2006, 05:50 PM
Sorry to get crash but I have been observing that everytime a topic went off tangent, it ended up in a friendly quarrel. Honestly speaking, I enjoy reading them. Now let us get back to subject matter.

Can anyone of you tell me how those cronies cause the great flood in Shah Alam such that now they have this RM 350 million bounty to share among themselves. I know how to cause a fire to burn down buildings but how to cause a flood to submerge them???

Dr. J George
13-03-2006, 06:55 PM
Simple. In the first case - the 'semua nya ok state government' initiates the following.

Of course, I am certain there too certain CONSULTANTS would have been employed at great costs. They suggested:

* Over-development around the Sungai Damansara catchments area.

* The river could not even be widened as most of its reserves had been developed.

* The massive development upstream of Sungai Damansara, Sungai Pencala and Sungai Air Kuning – particularly the Bukit Cerakah and Kota Damansara projects – which is causing heavy siltation in the river.

* The Sungai Damansara catchment area is almost fully developed, except for two green lungs at Taman Pertanian Bukit Cerakah and Taman Botani near Sungai Buloh.

These revelations clearly contradict the statements of the Selangor State government and put the cause of the floods and future floods on “over-development” and clearly show that present legislation pertaining to development and construction may have been violated.

I am certain the RM350 million sought after will not serve any purpose except to make 'orang kaya baru' out of certain well connected contractors cum politicians.

The average Najib, Ong, Samy, 'Awok Partini' (Malaysianized Indonesia with Mycard and Bumiputra privileges) already knows that.

The people here will speak - in the next elections unless one of the present idiots suddenly die by an 'act of god' then the feedbacks and response will come sooner!

And no RM500/- tip will change that What? With an average family having an economic loss of over RM80,000.00?

All thanks to the great flood in the 'semua nya ok state'?

Rocky19
14-03-2006, 03:43 PM
Maybe Najib can stand up now and show us that this contract that will be given out is based on prudent practise and there is or will be no wastage. Can the DPM please tell us he is practising what he is preaching to us.

Just plain stupid, they are the ones that approve all this project w/out care of environment etc. Now they are asking for RM350million..well gues it is a smart thing...create the problem and then spend taxpayers money to solve the problem you created in the first place. :rolleyes: Semuanya OK!!! Tapi OK untuk siapa pak??? :(

Dr. J George
14-03-2006, 05:01 PM
Loud thunders & Rain coming this way - KL is already hit - Those of us in TTDI Jaya in the 'Semua nya OK State' are watching and holding virgil. :o

Many residents I am told are calling home to check with either their family or maids. :(

I have a TV repair man on my roof trying to fix my TV Antenna which was broken after the last storm! :o

I am telling him to come down in view of the lightning and thunder - the last thing I need is for him to get hurt! :o

RM350 million - will certainly make instant millionaires of many - already I see a few "political contractors" walking around? :eek:

Dr. J George
14-03-2006, 05:08 PM
By the way I am deeply sorry lah having forgot to convey several TTDI JAYA FAMILIES sincere and heartfelt thanks to all of you for coming to our support in this our tragedy. :)

So much in my mind from matters of bread and butter to repairs to the home and vehicles, and rising bills to pay .......so forgot lah.

They really felt uplifted when I printed out the various posts of concern to their plight. :)

Thank You All! :)

robertec
14-03-2006, 05:55 PM
I can really feel for those who are staying in Shah Alam especially those whose homes were flooded (like JG), it must be such a strain every time there is continuous rain.

It is really so ridiculous to have such pressure in your daily lives.

Selangor Maju!

orchipalar
14-03-2006, 08:07 PM
Err...those in their regular mischievous opportunistic traits...would 'pray' for the mother of all heavy thunderstorm...to turn the flooding situations in SA...into further rot...n then suddenly there 'is' a state of emergency to get the funds approved for BIGGER 'remedial' development going their ways...right up to their bank accounts...:rolleyes:

Err...the deeper the rot...the higher level of con-sultations would be 'summoned'...n the BIGGER n fatter contracts get awarded out to milk the cashcows dryer...

Ahem...it's all too predictable these days...isn't it?

Err...where else but in this apa apa aje pun bolehland would you find...the state of being self declared...to be advance n developed...Selangor Darul Ehsan... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selangor)

pcyeoh
14-03-2006, 08:24 PM
I received a SMS sent to me by Sender 66777 at 6.24 pm which is from MPSJ. It says "Perhatian, sebarang kecemasan bencana alam (CTH:Banjir/Pokok Tumbang) Sila laporkan ke unit Hotline MPSJ di talian 03-56376545. TQ-PR MPSJ.

I believe they are taking this action after the shelling from the Sultan.

USJ27Resident
14-03-2006, 11:19 PM
I received a SMS sent to me by Sender 66777 at 6.24 pm which is from MPSJ. It says "Perhatian, sebarang kecemasan bencana alam (CTH:Banjir/Pokok Tumbang) Sila laporkan ke unit Hotline MPSJ di talian 03-56376545. TQ-PR MPSJ.

I believe they are taking this action after the shelling from the Sultan.

I hope the line is working when you need it the most.... half the time I call it, its either an "half asleep idiot" that answers it or "no one" answers it ! :mad:

Dr. J George
15-03-2006, 08:20 AM
Bro Orchi - your thoughts on that matter really frightens - not - that it has not crossed our minds as every action taken depends I am told and whose 'INTEREST" it serves?

The operative words - 'INTEREST".

I shudder to think how far down the 'morality and ethical ladder' we have come down since our glory days of the 50's to 70's.

And I am told it will get worse.

It is a pity that ppl here believe in short term fire fighting rather than long term solutions and everything is again whose finger is in which cake? :rolleyes: