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tan_r
20-02-2006, 03:42 PM
Folk, this one (http://mydailynuggets.blogspot.com/2006/02/orang-kurang-ajar.html) happen only in USJ 18 or is it common elsewhere?

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1425/1603/400/DSC03903.jpg

Rocky19
20-02-2006, 05:32 PM
tan san :) this happen to my neighbour.someone from the back row dump used furniture right infront of his house.Operasi tengah malam.We knew where the furniture came from after some investigation. So that night my neighbour return all the furniture to the owner, smack right in the middle of that guys house. why didn't he just leave it infront of his house instead of dumping it on my neighbour, MPSJ will pick it up anyway? Well what do..some people educated but kurang ajar.

HTH
20-02-2006, 05:40 PM
not only in USJ18, we also witnessed a lot of these 'educated' people in my dad's neighbourhood of USJ13. Mostly come at night, with their 4wd, mpv, mercs, and then just dumped at the road side. Sometime just dumped at the Petronas pipeline gas area.
Even the 'datuk kong' also simply throw here and there only. betul kurang ajar.

orchipalar
20-02-2006, 05:41 PM
Err...plenty in USJ 2 also...kurang ajar punya neighbours dump their refuge...everywhere. :mad:

VeeJay
20-02-2006, 06:01 PM
Yes we know there is a problem, human's are always going to be humans immaterial how educated they are, getting the civic into everyone brain ainít easy!

My question is, why canít MPSJ allocate a bigger dumpster at each precinct, so the local user could user them, rather than throwing all around the corner?!
Shouldnít that solve 90% of the problem? The 10% as I mentioned itís the people, we have to watch out for each other, and report when incidents occurs or when these irresponsible are at their choreÖ

alexhay
20-02-2006, 06:22 PM
This thing would happen right under a signboard 'Di Larang Membuang Sampah Disini'

tan_r
20-02-2006, 06:24 PM
What makes me worked up is this - We scream, MPSJ cleans and a***holes dump. This is a bloody never ending cycle! :mad: :mad: :mad:

leewinnie46
20-02-2006, 06:40 PM
is happening everywhere because they are not aware they could dump it during other neighbour doing some renovation, dump at their construction track...the quickest way

johnmichael
20-02-2006, 06:54 PM
why canít MPSJ allocate a bigger dumpster at each precinct[/QUOTE]

does MPSJ really have a dumpster at each precinct? if so, someone please identify the "designated dump areas". i have been looking for these places and not able to find one, ever since the pasar malam at SS15 was relocated..

orchipalar
20-02-2006, 07:01 PM
Err...according to Prof. Khoo Kay Kim...

* Malaysians ignoring the fifth tenet of Rukun Negara: good behaviour and morality.

http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/upload/showpost.php?p=112869&postcount=1

Ahem...so should we do unto our neighbours...for what our neighbours do unto us...?

clfoo
20-02-2006, 08:27 PM
is happening everywhere because they are not aware they could dump it during other neighbour doing some renovation, dump at their construction track...the quickest way

is this unselfish act or pot call the kettle black? :confused:

kwchang
21-02-2006, 12:44 AM
This is addressed to the guilty parties....
This had been discussed before - do not dump your rubbish into other people's renovation skips because they pay Alam Flora (about RM500 - RM1500 per skip) specifically for the construction debris. Did you contribute to that skip (or dumpster)?

Similarly, leaving garbage by the road sides just because you can't stand the eyesore yourself if it was infront of your own house, don't mean you should dump it on the side roads. Having paid your local council's assessment (cukai pintu) don't give you the right to expect the Alam Flora to pick up your mess by dumping far away from your own compound. Why should your neighbour live with your mess?

If you rich fellas can afford to drive your MPV or SUV to the shop just to pick up today's paper or a single loaf of bread, couldn't you load up the old furniture and drive to the community dumps? If you don't have one nearby that is convenient, go look for one.

These are all basics of civic consciousness.

This is for the "good" guys/gals -
Let us get together and SHAME those litter-bugs. It don't matter if that perpetrator is a corporate head or top-gun. Anyone without civic sense deserves to be treated like the dirt they put by the road-sides.

Life Ranger
21-02-2006, 09:01 AM
why canít MPSJ allocate a bigger dumpster at each precinct? does MPSJ really have a dumpster at each precinct? if so, someone please identify the "designated dump areas". i have been looking for these places and not able to find one, ever since the pasar malam at SS15 was relocated..

This is my question too. I have been wondering where to dump my big shoes rack/cabinet for long time....Can I leave it outside my house ? or I have to rent a small lori to ship it to ---- Where ? Even the big palm tree leaf drops on the ground in front of my house are not picked up by alam flora, why ?

HTH
21-02-2006, 09:20 AM
is happening everywhere because they are not aware they could dump it during other neighbour doing some renovation, dump at their construction track...the quickest way

Chang is right. It's not right to dump our rubbish into the renovation skips/dumpster, because the house owner paid for these for their reno debris. When I renovated my house, my contractor adviced me not to get the skip too early or everyone will be dumping their rubbish into the dumpster, and I would end up having to pay for another one. So, we piled our rubbish/debris inside the house compound, and when the house was almost done, we got the skip and moved the debris to the dumpster.

CCY
21-02-2006, 09:20 AM
This is my question too. I have been wondering where to dump my big shoes rack/cabinet for long time....Can I leave it outside my house ? or I have to rent a small lori to ship it to ---- Where ? Even the big palm tree leaf drops on the ground in front of my house are not picked up by alam flora, why ?

You have a point here. Sometimes I'm wondering where are the public dumster bins. Do everyone need to go all the way lugging and hunting where the public bins are ? Do mpsj have any regular placement of these bins for such purpose or the residents have to figure out a way to dispose. Still feel that there need to have to get to the root cause of the problem.

jtl
21-02-2006, 09:31 AM
This is my question too. I have been wondering where to dump my big shoes rack/cabinet for long time....Can I leave it outside my house ? or I have to rent a small lori to ship it to ---- Where ? Even the big palm tree leaf drops on the ground in front of my house are not picked up by alam flora, why ?

Once, I put two old bbq pits outside my house to be thrown away. They were gone the next morning. However, on another occassion, I put my shoe rack outside to be thrown - it took 2 weeks but it was cleared eventually.

My hubby says that if you put metal/steel things outside, someone will take them very quickly but as for other materials, it takes a while.

I put a footstool outside 5 days ago. Its still there. :(

There are a few skips near my MIL's flat in Cheras. When we visit her, I normally take my "big" rubbish to throw there.

tan_r
21-02-2006, 11:34 AM
Still feel that there need to have to get to the root cause of the problem.
The root cause of the problem lies between our ears, believe it or not.

CCY
21-02-2006, 11:51 AM
The root cause of the problem lies between our ears, believe it or not.

Yes ...some will not exercise that in between and will always take the easy way out to dump it in front of their neighbour's yard other than their own. If we expect these people to grow up like everyone that is civicminded or take that extra step to hunt ...hunt...for a bin , I guess we all have to wait. What is the role of mpsj regarding this facility issue....

tan_r
21-02-2006, 12:41 PM
... What is the role of mpsj regarding this facility issue....
Wherever MPSJ puts the community bin if they decide to do it at all, the same problem is going to happen. First, who wants the bin infront or near their houses? There will be protests, for sure. Two, some people who stays a distance away will continue to take the easy way out.

So let's be reasonable on this and not dump this problem to MPSJ as long as they keep to the collection schedule.

robertec
21-02-2006, 01:22 PM
This most certainly is not a problem with MPSJ.

It boils down to a lousy attitude problem with many a resident.

This ďas long as it is not in my houseĒ attitude is manifested in almost every Community.

This group of people just do not have the civic pride and respect.

Kurang Ajah is just so appropriate.

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johnmichael
23-02-2006, 09:59 AM
a lot of hot air here, but nobody seem to have any idea.. i'm particularly disappointed with a post.. "If you don't have one nearby that is convenient, go look for one.".. sound like govt dept lah.. "sini tadak.. pei cari sendiri".

point is.. there isn't any place to dump the rubbish/unwanted stuff.. someone please show the way..? i'm sure sj/usj people would be willing.. just don't ask them to hire a barge and send to middle of straits of malacca.

jasonbhlee
24-02-2006, 10:56 AM
Good news to those who wants to see litterbugs being summoned.

There is an illegal dump along Pesiaran Setia, between USJ3D and USJ3B. The rsidents have been complaining for months. People dump furnitures, clothings, anything you can think of. Yesterday while I was jogging along that stretch at 6.30pm, I saw a MPSJ enforcement van and a green Satria parked at the illegal dump. As I approach them, I saw the officer giving a summon to the lady for dumping her stuff there. Bravo!! As I jogged along, I shouted, 'saman kasi lebih sikit!'. For your info, the green satria has the number plate WEL 6202. Could be your neighbour. But I wonder how MPSJ managed to trace this culprit! Probably she dumped her envelopes along with other rubbish.
Bravo MPSJ!