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de_scorpio
21-01-2006, 12:44 AM
Someone told me tht the new badge wearing by the officers is actually Saya Nanti Rasuah.

So beware USJ folks, they are opening "stalls" at the USJ21-Puchong under bridge and at the back road leading to Giant (near mamee factory") during this festive season for Ang Pao

USJ27Resident
21-01-2006, 12:59 AM
Hah! have I got news for you.... even the 'neighborhood' rubbish collectors are into this angpow collection...

They even had the gall to ring practically every house in the neighborhood that celebrated christmas for an "angpow"... in which I had to tell them that... "ehm.. kawan :christmas mana ada kasi angpow.... tapi brandy fruit cake banyak!" :p

Somehow, i kinda relented and gave them fellas a small token amount ( being christmas and all ). But then they spoilt my bloody christmas mood :mad: , when they came back and said .... " allo boss... kasi lebih sikit - boleh ka? "

:eek: NOW WHAT WUD U HAVE DONE! :confused: :mad: *annoyed!*

I wanna wait n see how these fella's approach for CNY!

pcyeoh
21-01-2006, 10:57 AM
It is not that I encourage giving them ang pow but I would term my small contribution as tips. Imagine these poorly paid rubbish collectors coming to your house throughout the year clearing all you smelly stuff and what not and what is giving them a tips of RM 5.00 come this auspicious day. You don't have to bother whether they are collecting thousands of ringgit from the thousand of houses here. I can tell you that there are many Uncle Scrooges here in SJ/USJ. Complaint a lot but when it comes to rewarding them for work done, these same fellas just pretend to look the other way. For this Chinese New Year, cut down firing away your crackers and give the money to the rubbish men and the drain and road sweepers as tips.

mon
21-01-2006, 11:21 AM
Well yes pc. Not forgetting our Mr. Postman too.. :)

kwchang
21-01-2006, 11:33 AM
I know this is practised in older neighbourhoods. We were so happy when we moved in to USJ when the utilities like rubbish-collectors do not dare ask for such handouts. However, some households, out of habit, "spoil" the peace by carrying out their old traditions. Now you get these collectors acculturated to ask. There are many ways to do charity, but I don't agree that this is one of them.

I do keep some RM1.00 angpows handy just in case... I don't want them messing up my bin area the rest of the year. "Aha...", you may say, "...so you are willing to be victimised?..." I leave that to others to comment - thanks to USJ27resident for bringing up an account of this old practice in a new neighbourhood.

pcyeoh
21-01-2006, 11:56 AM
I know this is practised in older neighbourhoods.
Saya Penang mari. In the good old days, rubbish collection were done by the Majlis Perbandaran Pulau Pinang and it was a tradition that we gave angpow of RM 1.00 as tips to show our appreciation to people who were doing this thankless job. My father-in-law (God blessed him) who lived in a 10,000 sq ft colonial bungalow would not only give each crew member RM 1.00 but also passed out the kueh kapek, the F&N orange drinks (the big glass bottled ones) and oranges and the whole gang literally had a party in our compound. After that throughout the 365 days, these collectors did not bitch about the no of bags of garbage we disposed. In fact, the crew members even swept and cleared some of the rubbish that were strewn in front of the house. Where in the world can you find Alam Flora people equip with a broom here in USJ? You are lucky their garbage truck didn't decide to piss in front of the house. The RM 5.00 I gave them is with string attached. I told them not to stop their garbage truck at my house to spare my house from the Chanel No 5 fragrance. Anyway, I don't consider that contribution as rasuah. It is considered 'duit perlincinan."

pucman
21-01-2006, 01:57 PM
Someone told me tht the new badge wearing by the officers is actually Saya Nanti Rasuah.

So beware USJ folks, they are opening "stalls" at the USJ21-Puchong under bridge and at the back road leading to Giant (near mamee factory") during this festive season for Ang Pao

There is a chinese saying, 'if the top is crooked, how can the bottom not be crooked'. ;)

Wonder what happened to the 'anti-corruption' campaign a while back ? :D

de_scorpio
21-01-2006, 06:03 PM
some police officers like to wear the green jacket to cover the "Saya Nanti Rasuah "....ooppss.sorry, "saya anti rasuah" badge and their I/D number during the road block operation.
Any one encounter this before?

aurora97
21-01-2006, 10:17 PM
operasi X'mas + New Year + operasi Ketupat is over, here comes operasi Ang pow (periously known as operasi KongsiRaya). Be prepared with those ang pow, and take extra care. wkakakaa.

Happy Chinese New Year to all USJ.com forumners

USJ27Resident
22-01-2006, 02:00 AM
It is not that I encourage giving them ang pow but I would term my small contribution as tips. Imagine these poorly paid rubbish collectors coming to your house throughout the year clearing all you smelly stuff and what not and what is giving them a tips of RM 5.00 come this auspicious day. You don't have to bother whether they are collecting thousands of ringgit from the thousand of houses here. I can tell you that there are many Uncle Scrooges here in SJ/USJ. ....

PC, I agree with a token amount... keyword: token amount - but to turn back after a round trip around the neighborhood to "ask" for extra ! Isn't that a bit about pushing one's luck... and since when christmas oso got angpow packets??? That was the one that got my temp. boiling...
Everytime when they clean the drains and cut the grass, if I am outside the house - they get drinks and snacks.... So just because of being friendly and nice - they can come around to ask for "extra"... I think not!

And by the way, I oso think I ain't no Uncle Scrooge either! ;)

yvonnefoong
22-01-2006, 11:12 PM
This is a draw! Give also right, don't give also right. PCYeoh is just one generous person and I do agree with him that these men deserve to be rewarded for their work. Don't forget their salaries are a meagre sum, so let's all celebrate together lah. I think, when I am well off in the future (I mean when I am well-off, not when my parents are well-off and therefore I am well-off) I would also give angpows to these people. Pray to God they won't turn greedy lah. Now, this is a chance to bash the government. LOL! Why is it that in our country, the most tiring jobs are the most lowly paid?

starrnorth88
04-02-2006, 02:19 AM
I read somewhere that a road sweeper earns RM1800/- a month and he deserves it

starrnorth88
04-02-2006, 02:23 AM
Let us count the ang-pow / tips schedules:

1. hari raya
2. Christmas
3. Chinese New Year
4. Deepavali (any tips here - someone enlighten me )

So you guys got 4 times a year to show your appreciation to the services given to you by those working in the hot sun / rain.

leewinnie46
04-02-2006, 09:44 PM
Close friend work with alam flora, the garbage collector always say, raya they can skip but not raya china...

Would anyone mind me telling a short story, someone celebrate a birthday party at a restaurant sometime back in last year, being nice, a friend go to the kitchen to say hi to a friend who work as junior chef, guess what he told his friend, the customer "shui" the food for not enough salt, the senior chef spit on the food n add more salt to be serve out again.

i agree those who give and those who don't, but if they dare to press your door bell and ask for ang pow, would you dare pretend like you don't give ang pow...... my father is so nice and threat this people very nice because we learnt from 1997, whereby father have no bonus, he don't give away ang pow easily..... guess what, "everybody" would be very nice, putting the garbage of neighbourhood in front of our front gate everytime they came so we are force to spray and clean the main road everytime they come....

but ever since moving to new house, in regard whether my father in good or bad mood, he will gave soft drink, lo kam, kuih, carlberg, ang pow and snack to them...... what happen is they will help us to dispose those old furniture or electrical appliance for free

in fact, i always try not giving but if you give to get good service for a year, which one you prefer ??? good service for a year or bad service for a year....

wecare
08-02-2006, 11:29 AM
RM5 per house x 1000 houses = 5K easy money....in the spirit of CNY we gave them an angpow and a bag of oranges, and while they were climbing back on the front truck i saw lot of gifts and oranges and not forgeting angpows as well...based on the calculations there will be alright and look at the number of recycle items that are keen to collect....except they won't take away my bricks that i don't want...wondering if they keep their promise to clean up my one bag of bricks later...haha!!! need to check with my parents this weekend....

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mybill
08-02-2006, 11:44 AM
Hi Folks,

Isn't it the same thing happened long time ago when we "give" a token of appreciation to the officers to help us to do the routine job they suppose and paid to do. Ended up now they are asking us to pay them before they start to service us?

This is how "under counter" and corruption started from the goodwill gesture and now become a menace in our country?

If give ang pow to them become a norm. That will be the day, no ang pow, no service, then who is to blame ????

chin_wan
08-02-2006, 04:12 PM
^^ I agree. It takes 2 to tango. If you are not part of the solution, don't be part of the problem.