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Dr. J George
18-01-2006, 11:34 AM
FOREIGN ‘MULLAH LIKES’ ARE BACK COLLECTING MONIES!

Yes, they are back in numbers all dressed in purist white and with skull caps walking in twos all over shopping arcades, hypermarkets and now even knocking on doors and ringing door bells to collect donations to whatever “causes” they are claiming to represent!

They do not have police permits to collect donations!

In the past they visit only Restaurants but have since grown bolder!

Some scold you if your turn them away!

I am advised they are here on ‘social visit pass’ – yes a visit pass, but their real intention is to collect donations, which a source tells me can run into thousands with no receipts or documentation to where it is going!

They stay in cheap hotels or in condominiums rented out and repeatedly taken over by new groups coming over to take off or over where the former has left.

We had highlighted this matter over NTV7 network but it continues – perhaps, the authorities are waiting for a International public statement of some kind that will link these monies collected to some ‘terrorist activities’ then, our Wisma Putra boys will sound the alarm?

bslee
18-01-2006, 12:04 PM
Saw 2 of them USJ Giant foodcourt some 3 weeks ago in the process of their act.

Rocky19
18-01-2006, 12:08 PM
one appeared at my front gate last weekend, told me he was from afghanistan. Told him I only donate to organisations. He said thank you and left. Spoke good english.

bslee
18-01-2006, 12:44 PM
Dr J George, Is there an appropriate website link where least I could do to lodge a complaint/report about these "undesirable foreign elements"?.
We have enough problems with local beggars, what more with more foreign ones adding to our social ills, not to mention Subang/USJ is a favorable area to solicit for donations by all sorts of characters almost on a daily basis.
I could be pessimistic on their response but at least I do my part.

pcyeoh
18-01-2006, 12:46 PM
They came to my area and focussed on Muslims' houses only as they know that the non Mulsims will chase them away. I would do that. But I noticed that the Muslims will support them whatever the cause as these people will use the name of Islam to extract the donations from the fellow Muslims. If we are not contributing, I advise you all to politely turn them down. We do not know what they will be up to if we step on their feet. We let the authorities to handle the situation.

Dr. J George
18-01-2006, 01:14 PM
Many of my Muslim friends were also upset with their 'mannerisms and behavior' and yesterday evening' several turned them away after asking them to show their police permits.

One called the local police station, but then, these two, had run off immediately, sensing trouble.

I think, the best is to call the police to send in their patrol cars.

According to my friends at KDN, these fellas can be arrested, charged with violating our Immigration laws, punished and deported!

But they need our help in alerting them to their movement in our neighborhood.

Perhaps, these numbers can help:

KL Traffic Police - 03-2329044
IPK Selangor - 03-55145222
Hotline: 03-55102999
PJ Station - 03-79562222
Shah Alam - 03-55102222

bslee
18-01-2006, 02:17 PM
Perhaps, these numbers can help:
KL Traffic Police - 03-2329044
IPK Selangor - 03-55145222
Hotline: 03-55102999
PJ Station - 03-79562222
Shah Alam - 03-55102222


Thank you, I've noted 3 contact numbers into my phone. :)
Let's see how they respond if contacted.

AllUrban
18-01-2006, 04:10 PM
Do buddhist priests also require permits to collect donations?

I have seen a few walking around Subang Jaya, collecting small donations from passers by and customers of the Asia Cafe in SS15.

It's a slightly less extreme version of the same thing...using something to your advantage (e.g. religion, injury, sick child, young child) to solicit donations.

Perhaps this islamicized begging is more organized and on a larger scale. Ironically, muslims are supposed to go to the government to get charity, that is what zakat is for.

Anyways, every adult has the right to refuse, which is what I usually do when people ask for donations. I pay my zakat and extra charity myself.

Just to point out another thing...the "mullahs" tag is very negative...if you dont understand the concept or the role of a "mullah", then you are just using that term in a derogatory way and that is wrong.

Cheers, m

Sato
18-01-2006, 04:25 PM
Do buddhist priests also require permits to collect donations?

I have seen a few walking around Subang Jaya, collecting small donations from passers by and customers of the Asia Cafe in SS15.

It's a slightly less extreme version of the same thing...using something to your advantage (e.g. religion, injury, sick child, young child) to solicit donations.

Perhaps this islamicized begging is more organized and on a larger scale. Ironically, muslims are supposed to go to the government to get charity, that is what zakat is for.

Anyways, every adult has the right to refuse, which is what I usually do when people ask for donations. I pay my zakat and extra charity myself.

Just to point out another thing...the "mullahs" tag is very negative...if you dont understand the concept or the role of a "mullah", then you are just using that term in a derogatory way and that is wrong.

Cheers, m

My dear friend those so call buddhist monks soliciting donations of cash from public are not in anyway related to any buddhist temple, they are con-man. Real buddhist monk is not suppose to walk around and collect money from public, they are suppose to stay in temple or monastery to give religion/dharma talk to public. If there is any donations to be given it should be direct to the designated office in the monastery for donations.
Times is bad there is so many con-man around looking for easy money.
:mad:

bslee
18-01-2006, 05:05 PM
I'll reiterate again, There are many con-men preying our neighborhood (amongst others) and soliciting donations for whatever purpose. There's NO way one can instantly verify whatever their claim.
Politely tell them off or ignore them. Everyone do this and the menace could end soon.

yvonnefoong
18-01-2006, 05:14 PM
Yeah, me and my friend donated to a so-called buddhist monks in SS15 2 years back. He looked sincere and genuine at first. But as soon as he walked off, alarm bells rang in my head. "wait a minute. Buddhist monks don't collect donations like that! And donations can come in any amount. He shouldn't have stated a minimum amount of donation!"

These people are smart too.

AllUrban
18-01-2006, 05:30 PM
especially in ss15, where there are lots of foreigners who dont know the score...like m

KakiLang
18-01-2006, 10:32 PM
What abt those people from charity organisation who come with a file showing u some photos and a photocopied permit? R they genuine? I always hv doubts in them.

I usually dun give donation to them, and would politely tell them I prefer to make my donation directly to those organisations at their premises.

joker2107
19-01-2006, 01:09 AM
whats d castigated snoop team doing? waiting 4 tiger show in back alleys so that they can teach morality law? if jawi really must ensure employment 4 grads of religious studies, use these snoops 2 hassle obvious law violators like these beggars instead of paying them 2 bellow "hey buddy sorry but i m holier than thou"