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wAISEKMAo
18-01-2006, 10:03 AM
This morning while having my mee, saw the news. Immediately got a nausea and want to puke (even though my mee do not have fish in it). I guess I will pass over patin fish for a very long time.

If the fish is fed with pig faeces, what happens to the non-pig eater ah?
In the even if the fish is fed with lembu faeces, what happens to the non-lembu eaters ah.

Malaysia really boleh!

burntan
18-01-2006, 11:09 AM
What's wrong with that? Fish eat pig and you eat fish doesn't mean that you are eating pig.

Lembu eat grass and you eat steak, will it taste like grass?

AllUrban
18-01-2006, 11:12 AM
That sounds upsetting and on a religious level it can be a problem. However, if you think of it from a science perspective...every molecule in the earth was part of something else at one time or another.

But in real life it's still annoying and feels unnatural.

It's already known that mad-cow disease (Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy) was caused by feeding cows with high-protein feed containing the remnants of other bovines, scapie (in sheep) was caused by a similar problem. There is also a similar disease in deer.

Today, the feed for cows does not include cows, but may include protein from other animals.

Thats why m likes the idea of halal meat. If a domesticated, herbivorous animal is fed meat it cannot be considered halal, and carnivores cannot be halal either.

Safer and more organic and the meat is healthier.

If it makes you feel a little better, look at it this way...Singaporeans are saving water supplies and drinking their own urine (of course, it is processed, filtered, cleaned, and sent through reverse osmosis until it is pure water...but still....ewwww!!!)

cskok8
18-01-2006, 03:38 PM
Chicken droppings have been fed to fish for many decades, never heard anybody complaining. Maybe because chicken is halal for all. Plus it is also organic. ;)

flaminJ
18-01-2006, 09:20 PM
This practice has been going on for ages... just only discovered and talked about only. Not only patins are fed this way but most fresh water fish bred for consumption are done this way. Tilapias, why do you think they grow up to be fat and juicy, don't think the breeder give them good grade feed for that. They normally turn to the "au naturale" feed which consists of dead or rotten carcasses, leftovers from restaurants or even pig faeces. Not to say only pig faeces but any type of faeces including human ones mind you. So for those who feel gross out with this, think about this next time you have your Teochew style steamed "Fei Chow Yi" hahaha....

USJ27Resident
18-01-2006, 09:30 PM
I'd stick to Philly Steak sandwiches from now on.... :p

wAISEKMAo
19-01-2006, 12:20 AM
What's wrong with that? Fish eat pig and you eat fish doesn't mean that you are eating pig.

Lembu eat grass and you eat steak, will it taste like grass?

Nothing wrong at all.

It's just the thoughts of having fish eating all the pigs, chicky, maybe tikus mati, dead cats, dead bird, dead lipas, dead dogs, dead monkey or etc just give me a nausea.

It's just maybe they just collect all the stray cats, stray dogs, dead monkeys, dead chicky from virus infection and etc .... or they bought it cheaply and feed it to their fish and sell it to public.

nothing wrong at all.

fatalshak
19-01-2006, 11:57 AM
Then we shouldnt eat veggies either. Isnt fertilizers faeces? We should check whether they feed the veggies with halal faeces!

trifecta
19-01-2006, 02:59 PM
Then we shouldnt eat veggies either. Isnt fertilizers faeces? We should check whether they feed the veggies with halal faeces!

Is it that hard for some of us to respect otther ppl's religion? Besides doesnt fish eating poo whether halal or not just plain gross and shouldnt ppl's alarm bells be ringing because of health issues?

EricK
20-01-2006, 12:15 AM
Is it that hard for some of us to respect otther ppl's religion? Besides doesnt fish eating poo whether halal or not just plain gross and shouldnt ppl's alarm bells be ringing because of health issues?

yes you are right.. we should demand all our meat to be produced in a sanitary and hygienic manner... all cows should be treated like how they produce kobe meat... i demand my fishes to be fed organically grown pellets and all chickens to be free ranging and fed vegetable if possible, no pesky dirty worms for them...
:rolleyes:

flaminJ
20-01-2006, 11:49 AM
then in this case, stop eating cows, chicken, fish, pork, veggies for the meantime until they solve this issue la..... ahhahahaha no offence intended.

pcyeoh
20-01-2006, 12:28 PM
then in this case, stop eating cows, chicken, fish, pork, veggies for the meantime until they solve this issue la..... ahhahahaha no offence intended.
My philosophy about eating is "It is not what went into your mouth that matters but what comes out of it." People are so cautious about what they eat until they lost the joy of eating. But the very same people could not be bothered about what they say to the extent that what came out of their mouths could actually kill the mood of other people. Example, the holier than thou people who are the pharisees ( self-righteous or sanctimonious person) of today

wAISEKMAo
20-01-2006, 02:06 PM
then in this case, stop eating cows, chicken, fish, pork, veggies for the meantime until they solve this issue la..... ahhahahaha no offence intended.

I think there are few issues here.
1. we have got to know that the patin fish we are eating are "contaminated" with already dead (for a long time ok) animals.
2. It shows that there are unscrupulous practice by patin fish rearer to use whatever means and foods (even illegal) ways to profit from their venture.
3. Because of the dead animals, I am thinking should the possibilities of sick dead animals are offered to the patin fish(think of bird flu). Should we eat the patin fish which ate the sick dead animals, are we going to get anything at all.
4. Maybe this sounds crazy, maybe the food industries should get IS0 9001 or something like in Japan where they can trace the history surrounding the food.
5. Again, I am sure most of the foods got pee lar, **** lar, dead animal from ages and etc; however, since i did not read it in the newspaper like "fish are fed with faeces"; at least I know the food I am eating did not contain faeces.

KH EE
20-01-2006, 04:19 PM
saw this interesting article:-

some extract:-

Pig-Fish Systems

This method is another classical Chinese integrated fish farming system widely practised in its original geographic area. This system was well-established by immigrant Chinese in several Southeast Asian countries (such as Thailand, Malaysia and Singapore and later also in other parts of Asia (e.g. in India, Nepal and Bhutan). With small pigsties constructed over the fishponds, bigger ones on the dikes, pig manure reaches the pond directly or after being collected and fermented in suitable pits. Fresh pig manure is regarded as highly efficient foe pond fertilization and fish can utilize directly the feed spilled by the pigs.

Pig-fish integration is thus an efficient one form of integration technical point of view, although the pigs do not benefit much from being above or around fishponds. Problems of this systems are of an economical nature: farm-gate prices of pork fluctuate substantially in Asia as well, rendering pig raising uneconomical especially in bad years. Another limitation of integrated pig-fish systems is the ban on pork consumption by Islamic communities in some of the most populous countries of Asia.

source:- http://www.fao.org/DOCREP/004/AC155E/AC155E05.htm