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RolyPoly
17-01-2006, 03:23 PM
http://www.geocities.com/mygambars/SS15_3.jpg

Today at SS15, traffic was extremely bad!! It seemed like MPSJ suddenly decided to change the traffic flow in front of Asia Cafe (Jalan SS15/8A)!!! No proper planning with signboards put ahead was made to alert drivers .

http://www.geocities.com/mygambars/SS15.jpg

Not only traffic jam, we have traffic going in both directions on this road. They are also parked haphazardly!! The old "Jalan Sehala" signboard which shows the previous traffic flow direction has NOT even been removed to reflect the new traffic direction (as shown in the photo above)!!! We only see MPSJ officers hanging around watching the traffic jam building up! What can they do when the mess is already done! Just stand and sigh lah!

http://www.geocities.com/mygambars/SS15_2.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/mygambars/SS15_4.jpg

I wonder whether MPSJ has ever learnt from the mistake they made by changing the traffic flow in USJ Taipan (Jalan USJ10/1B - the road where Maybank & Burger King is located). The traffic flow was changed to one-way over a weekend. By Monday, office workers were rudely awaken by traffic jam and haphazard traffic flow. Until today, we still face incessant traffic jam on this major road in USJ Taipan. The change of traffic from 2-way to 1-way we hoped to improve traffic condition in Taipan. However what we got now is car double- or triple-parked on both sides of the road, leaving only one lane for traffic to flow!! But we don't seem to see MPSJ learning from their mistake or taking effort to correct the mistakes that they made!

chuinkee
17-01-2006, 05:48 PM
I do not understand, they spend soo much time and money to repaint the parking box, what is stopping them from putting few more BIG ONE-WAY sign board?

aiyoh MPSJ..

Ben-G

isarahim
17-01-2006, 05:52 PM
what is stopping them from putting few more BIG ONE-WAY sign board?

Yeah, in both directions...

xweird
17-01-2006, 06:39 PM
err... does that mean that the road in front of asia cafe is now 2-ways?

RolyPoly
17-01-2006, 07:38 PM
err... does that mean that the road in front of asia cafe is now 2-ways?


NO, it's not. It's one-way, but in the opposite direction! So all road from NPE (the SS17 police station direction) will have to turn left at McDonald's / at Maybank and drive around SS15 to get to the road where Affin Bank and Asia Cafe or the Market is located. Wow...it's a real long drive and it's bumper to bumper traffic jam.

Another route to take is head to the road at Herbs n' Food and make a big turn around the shop houses and come in via The Green Leaf restaurant way (near Bormas Photostat Shop). Of course, this route is longer but traffic is better.

The traffic jam in SS15 will get worst henceforth. I can't imagine how bad it would get on a Sat evening, where crowd at Asia Cafe would be overwhelming!

All thanks to our brilliant think-tank in MPSJ!! :(

charis14
17-01-2006, 09:45 PM
All thanks to our brilliant think-tank in MPSJ!!
Came across the sudden traffic change and was actually wondering how MPSJ goes about planning changes. Perhaps, it is based on "do first, then modify and keep modifying until perfect".
As it is, I agree that we will have very regular jam at the McDonalds/INTI entry. Reason : Forcing cars going Public Bank direction to go one big round. With RHB/SBB/tuition centres along the relatively narrow stretch, the queue is obvious. Proposed modification : Also allow entry at Maybank - this will cut the jam further down.

xweird
17-01-2006, 11:50 PM
do u think that they will switch back to the old system, a la the giant roundabout fiasco some 2 years back?

charis14
17-01-2006, 11:56 PM
Proposed modification : Also allow entry at Maybank - this will cut the jam further down.
Another proposal : Open up the roundabout at Public Bank so that vehicles heading from SS15 to SS14/SS18/SS19 will not have to also join the festivity queueing up at McDonalds/INTI.

aurora97
17-01-2006, 11:57 PM
READ news FLASH!

Whilst passing through the place as mention by RolyPoly, I don't know the exact name but its the place where Inti College subang Jaya; Asian Cafe and Taylor College is located. At about 9pm 17/01/2006, while i was heading for my dinner. I notice something strange, all traffic has now been diverted! The pictures posted up by RolyPolly, where you can see traffic is coming from all directions has now changed. Those areas have either now been designated as one way streets, cones have been placed around the area to divert traffic, and traffic has been smooth flowing for the first time. If you don't believe me, go out and have a cup of tea in Asian Cafe and you will know what i mean.

Teeque
18-01-2006, 02:59 AM
The one way traffic in this area could actually improve traffic IF everyone observes the new traffic flow and direction. As it is, there is no publicity on this exercise or press release to warn and inform motorist of the impending traffic change. Sure-lah there's going to be some problems! Does MPSJ think the public can digest the change and follow directional changes overnite and without prior warning or information? They must think we are psychics or wizards or something.

Currently, the traffic in that area is blocked off to public traffic to enable MPSJ contractors to re-draw parking lines, road directional signs and put in new 'No Entry' signage. But beware! The redrawing of parking bays has turned the road in front of the SS15 wet market and Asia Cafe into a narrow lane, just fitting one car's width, presumably to deter motorist frm double parking in that area. And because the road condition at this spot is quite bad, with potholes, you can bet that traffic will slow over this lane considerably, thereby, in turn, slowing all traffic flow entering into this area. I cant understand why MPSJ cannot re-tar this road in front of the wet market first before re-drawing the parking lines. The road condition has been deteriorating for a few years now but the authorities couldnt be bothered to rectify it. Real public apathy abt road maintenance by MPSJ!

AllUrban
19-01-2006, 10:11 AM
The one way traffic in this area could actually improve traffic IF everyone observes the new traffic flow and direction. As it is, there is no publicity on this exercise or press release to warn and inform motorist of the impending traffic change. Sure-lah there's going to be some problems! Does MPSJ think the public can digest the change and follow directional changes overnite and without prior warning or information? They must think we are psychics or wizards or something.

Currently, the traffic in that area is blocked off to public traffic to enable MPSJ contractors to re-draw parking lines, road directional signs and put in new 'No Entry' signage. But beware! The redrawing of parking bays has turned the road in front of the SS15 wet market and Asia Cafe into a narrow lane, just fitting one car's width, presumably to deter motorist frm double parking in that area. And because the road condition at this spot is quite bad, with potholes, you can bet that traffic will slow over this lane considerably, thereby, in turn, slowing all traffic flow entering into this area. I cant understand why MPSJ cannot re-tar this road in front of the wet market first before re-drawing the parking lines. The road condition has been deteriorating for a few years now but the authorities couldnt be bothered to rectify it. Real public apathy abt road maintenance by MPSJ!

It's time for the colleges to start screaming..

I've just seen this thing happening and it is horrible. Having traffic from Public Bank rd. and traffic passing the college heading to the same direction...what a foolish idea...build's up huge jams in front of Asia Cafe, Taylor's College and Inti College.

At the very least, MPSJ could block cars from parking on the stretch of SS15/8 beside the MPSJ towing impound lot (McDonalds and Starbucks are on the opposite side). Then they could have 3 lanes, two to exit to Jalan Subang Utama, and one to turn right and pass by McDonalds and Burger King.

I think the blocking of the exit beside maybank will last at least until the roundabout is changed to a traffic signal junction, since that will give more gaps in traffic flow...

All in all, another poor example of planning at MPSJ. Time to send letters to the newspapers.

RolyPoly
20-01-2006, 10:59 PM
I've just seen this thing happening and it is horrible. Having traffic from Public Bank rd. and traffic passing the college heading to the same direction...what a foolish idea...build's up huge jams in front of Asia Cafe, Taylor's College and Inti College.

Not to mention the many vehicles heading to the wet market, including ME!
The condition will worsen when the new market starts operating. You bet!



All in all, another poor example of planning at MPSJ. Time to send letters to the newspapers.

I posted the same images and complaint on The Star's Citizen's Blog. You can find it here. http://blog.thestar.com.my/default.asp?d=1/18/2006 Interesting site to check out! ;)

AllUrban
26-02-2009, 05:51 PM
http://www.geocities.com/mygambars/SS15_3.jpg

Today at SS15, traffic was extremely bad!! It seemed like MPSJ suddenly decided to change the traffic flow in front of Asia Cafe (Jalan SS15/8A)!!! No proper planning with signboards put ahead was made to alert drivers .

http://www.geocities.com/mygambars/SS15.jpg

Not only traffic jam, we have traffic going in both directions on this road. They are also parked haphazardly!! The old "Jalan Sehala" signboard which shows the previous traffic flow direction has NOT even been removed to reflect the new traffic direction (as shown in the photo above)!!! We only see MPSJ officers hanging around watching the traffic jam building up! What can they do when the mess is already done! Just stand and sigh lah!

http://www.geocities.com/mygambars/SS15_2.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/mygambars/SS15_4.jpg

I wonder whether MPSJ has ever learnt from the mistake they made by changing the traffic flow in USJ Taipan (Jalan USJ10/1B - the road where Maybank & Burger King is located). The traffic flow was changed to one-way over a weekend. By Monday, office workers were rudely awaken by traffic jam and haphazard traffic flow. Until today, we still face incessant traffic jam on this major road in USJ Taipan. The change of traffic from 2-way to 1-way we hoped to improve traffic condition in Taipan. However what we got now is car double- or triple-parked on both sides of the road, leaving only one lane for traffic to flow!! But we don't seem to see MPSJ learning from their mistake or taking effort to correct the mistakes that they made!Remember the thread and the issues from 5 years ago?

Well, things just have not changed, they have only gotten worse...and the only thing we hear of as a solution is this minuscule change...SS15/7A becomes a 1 way road during peak hours ... towards kewajipan.

http://thestar.com.my/metro/story.asp?file=/2009/2/25/central/20090224220129&sec=central

The affected stretch will be turned into a one-way street, allowing traffic moving towards Jalan Kewajipan only from 7am to 8.30am and from 2pm to 4pm during weekdays.

“The new system will be enforced on March 14. But it is only for designated hours and is still on trial basis,” Yeoh told reporters on the new system at Sri KL on Monday.Not only is this legitimizing the behaviour of parents who park there and also park along Jalan Kewajipan, Jalan SS15/7, and Jalan SS12/3, but it will probably make traffic worse along Kewajipan!

This is because parents will not go into SS15 and make "one-big-round" in order to come back towards Kewajipan... Instead, they will stay on Kewajipan and SS12/3 and block even more traffic.

The solutions needed for SS15 are going to be significant and complicated but they will work if they are implemented well.

The goal is to create more entry and exit points instead of the current situation. So here are my suggestions in no particular order:

A reversal of the flow of Jalan SS15/8 and Jalan SS15/8A (next to Asia Cafe)...

* The benefit of this is that there will be more exit points from Jalan SS15/8, including 1 way roads at Jalan SS15/4D, Jalan SS15/8A, and two turning options at Jalan SS15/7.
* To reduce the delay of traffic, two parking spots must be removed, on each side of the main entrance to Taylor's University College Main Campus.
* This will create space for a layby area of 16 meters length which will allow a bus to layby without disruption of traffic.

Jalan SS15/7 to be divided into two roads:

* The first part of Jalan SS15/7 (Jalan SS15/8 up to the Taylors Business School at Jalan SS15/4) would be a 2-way street of 1 lane in each direction
* The second part of Jalan SS15/7 (around Taylor's University College towards Sri KL) would become a 1 way street of two lanes traveling in the direction of Persiaran Kewajipan.
* A barrier would be created at the intersection of Jalan SS15/8 and Jalan SS15/7 to moderate traffic

Jalan SS15/7 should also be extended down the hill as a two way street, to meet Jalan SS15/3B.

* Traffic will now have two options to exit the Hexagon area - through the laneway to Jalan SS15/6A, and through Jalan SS15/7
* Traffic off Pers. Kewajipan can u-turn and access Jalan SS15/7
* Traffic off Jalan SS15/7 would have to make a left turn and a u-turn further up
* This traffic will now have two options to exit SS15 - via the service road SS15/5A, or via Persiaran Kewajipan.

A kerb should be built to prevent traffic from SS15/3B that attempts to access Jalan SS12/1 and Jalan Kewajipan (usj bound).

*This traffic should be diverted along Kewajipan and a u-turn should be created under the elevated highway at the intersection at the end of Kewajipan (near the Mesiniaga/IBM building)
* Jalan SS15/7A should be a 2-way street, not a 1 way street.

Jalan SS15/4 should be:

* widened by removing the extra wide pedestrian walkways along this road
* turned into a 2 way road with
* a 1-way lane from Jalan SS15/4 would cross Jalan SS15/8A and Jalan SS15/4D and end at Jalan Subang Utama

Jalan SS15/4 should be linked with Jalan SS15/5

* The linking of these two roads will provide another way connection between Jalan Kemajuan and the colleges area
* This area is notorious for snatch theft - through access for cars would reduce snatch theft in the area by making it busier and safer.
* The intersection of Jalan SS15/3B (the "main road" and SS15/4 & SS15/5 should be controlled by stop signs and a flashing red beacon for all 4 ways.
* This intersection and stop signs will improve the flow of traffic and reduce speeding along Jalan SS15/3B, which will make it safer for pedestrians and other cars.

I have created a map that shows these changes. Let me find a way to post it here.

As for usj 10, m also has observations there...namely, there should be no right turns allowed when entering the service roads from the main road. Access should be by left turn only...See the next post for more details.

Cheers, m

AllUrban
26-02-2009, 06:08 PM
As for usj 10, m also has observations there...namely, there should be no right turns allowed when entering the service roads from the main road. Access should be by left turn only...See the next post for more details.

Cheers, mSee the map below

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Taipan+USJ10,+Subang+Jaya,+Malaysia&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=33.29802,56.601563&ie=UTF8&ll=3.047868,101.584225&spn=0.002561,0.003455&t=h&z=18

Now...reverse the flow of Jalan USJ10/1A and USJ10/1F so that cars coming off Pers. Perpaduan, Bakti, & Ikhlas make left turns to get into USJ10.

Cars leaving USJ10 from Jalan USJ10/1 (to Pers. Perpaduan), USJ10/1B (to Pers. Bakti), and USJ10/1E & USJ10/1G (both to Pers. Ikhlas) will have to make left turns as well.

There is a need for a u-turn lane on Pers. Perpaduan so that traffic exiting from USJ10/1 does not have to travel all the way to the Bakti/Perpaduan intersection to make a u-turn.

There should be no right turn at the exit of Jalan USJ10/1E. Also, there should be no right turning of traffic from Pers. Ikhlas into USJ10/1E. Traffic that needs to access USJ10/1E and 1F should make a u-turn then left turn.

By the way, in case you are wondering, the internal roads would not have to change flow.

Cheers, m

Plantronic
26-02-2009, 07:39 PM
MPSJ just know to give summons la.. $$$ only la.. U stuck is your problem.. If they pocket empty/stuck also your problem.. :D that why the USJ MPSJ so big building .. thanks to we all ..

bslee
26-02-2009, 07:50 PM
I bet there's thousand traffic offenders in one day. Fines grenerated from the stupidity of offenders contribute to their prosperity. Fines DO NOT seem to solve, correct or reduce the problem. It somehow gets worse actually. Its not surprising Malaysian stupid habits die hard. Your stupidity is the town board's gain!..simple n true.

besitai2007
01-03-2009, 10:16 AM
While we are on the problem of traffic jams, I do not see cops or any enforcement officers during peak traffic jam time at the narrow road between Subang Parade and Carrefore. Idiotic drivers are parked along the left lane and effectively blocked one lane and only allowing cars to squeeze into the single right lane. Signs have been put up saying that it is a clamping zone but where are the enforcement officers? Sadly a lot of the cars and CRVs which park along the narrow road are expensive marques owned by people who have more money than cow-sense in their brains.

kirst88
01-03-2009, 10:52 AM
The goal is to create more entry and exit points instead of the current situation. So here are my suggestions in no particular order:

A reversal of the flow of Jalan SS15/8 and Jalan SS15/8A (next to Asia Cafe)...

* The benefit of this is that there will be more exit points from Jalan SS15/8, including 1 way roads at Jalan SS15/4D, Jalan SS15/8A, and two turning options at Jalan SS15/7.
* To reduce the delay of traffic, two parking spots must be removed, on each side of the main entrance to Taylor's University College Main Campus.
* This will create space for a layby area of 16 meters length which will allow a bus to layby without disruption of traffic.

Jalan SS15/7 to be divided into two roads:

* The first part of Jalan SS15/7 (Jalan SS15/8 up to the Taylors Business School at Jalan SS15/4) would be a 2-way street of 1 lane in each direction
* The second part of Jalan SS15/7 (around Taylor's University College towards Sri KL) would become a 1 way street of two lanes traveling in the direction of Persiaran Kewajipan.
* A barrier would be created at the intersection of Jalan SS15/8 and Jalan SS15/7 to moderate traffic


I like your above suggestions. :D Really hope MPSJ can look into this...and also see if there are any ways to control the double parkers and drivers who do not follow the traffic flow!