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wufei
07-06-2005, 01:38 PM
Anyone owns it? Can we discuss the pro and cons?

velociraptor
07-06-2005, 02:51 PM
I owned Leisure Holiday membership. I have a friend who owned Berjaya membership. For comparison, Berjaya is the better of the two in local (include Singapore) destinations. It has two make-available hotels in JB and two in Singapore. Leisure Holiday scored none in the South except one rundown resort in Desaru (don't go to Desaru unless you have nowhere else to go, I have wasted three days of my life for booking a holiday there end of last year). Berjaya also has a lot more make available resort in other states. But come to RCA (international destination), I see no difference between the two. :)

cskok8
11-06-2005, 11:36 PM
BVC has got their own resorts (no need to pay) and affiliated ones (have to pay surcharge) both locally & overseas. You can also take any number of nights (unlike the exchange program - RCI where it must be for one week). As usual you must book early for the popular resorts and during school holidays. I have been a member since 2000.

jet
12-06-2005, 12:16 AM
BVC member,


Current BVC card member, a few questions :

How much is current market price for a BVC membership (single or double) ?

Is it worth it for a family that do average travelling around the country (< 15 days) or oversea ?


Tks

wufei
12-06-2005, 11:06 AM
Yes I would like to know the price too.

For those who did not own it yet, IMHO don't buy. It's looks attractive in the 1st place, but after you own it then you know I will say not worth it.

Jaytea
20-08-2005, 11:23 PM
anyone has any coments on Berjaya Vacation Club? Thinking of joining. how does the affiliated hotels work? am actually looking for timeshare for overseas holiday purpose.
thanks

patrick
21-08-2005, 12:34 AM
I have been a very happy BVC Member for about 8 years now. In fact, during these last few years I have also been sitting in the Members' Liaison Committee, and I can say that though there is definite room for improvement in BVC, I think it is still one of the best IF not the best vacation club to join, if you travel quite a bit.

If I am not mistaken, it is now RM24k for executive and 40k for Esteem Membership. Perhaps you want to check out more details at their website:
www.berjayavacation.com.my.

I shall be happy to try and answer any questions you have after that. If I cant answer your queries, I will get the management to attend to your queries. And if you folks would like to take it further, I can arrange for a special group briefing for you all. I will check to see if the management still throw in a free holiday just for attending their briefing.

So let me know if you all are keen.

wufei
21-08-2005, 04:59 PM
Patrick, I am very happy to hear that.

For those who not in the club yet, please be reminded, dont ever think to get any advantage on the affiliated hotels. The price is almost equivalent and you can get better offer out there. For those own by Berjaya, I am very happy with that. No Complain at all. BUT there is a but.,

1. You will lose out if they make a promotion during MATTA or travel fair. Your BVC is totally useless.

And bear in mind, Singapore Berjaya is affiliated not owned by Berjaya.

Why I join BVC?
1. Cash back after maturity. I just loss the interest for 38 years only.
2. The key is here - RCI (maybe Patrick can elaborate more)
3. Home resort that own by Berjaya

patrick
21-08-2005, 06:44 PM
When joining any vacation club, I would suggest you dont depend on RCI. Why? First, I find RCI quite expensive to renew membership every year. Second, when I was a member, I had problem booking those resorts that I wanted. And mind you, I tried to book well, well ahead. Yet I couldnt manage. The other problem with some RCI resort is you have to book in blocks, usually by week, making it not so convenient.

So, I am quite happy just using Berjaya's properties and also those affiliates. I still find it quite cheap than to book outside.

wufei
21-08-2005, 07:28 PM
Patrick, Thanks for your advice

Jaytea
21-08-2005, 10:10 PM
i am actually more keen on the rci factor. i enjoy travelling, and have take a vacation abroad every year. thought i can control cost by joining a time share.
so, not very useful-ah the rci thing?
so sad...

patrick
21-08-2005, 10:39 PM
Well, time share companies like Berjaya and a few of the others have their own properties and also affiliates. For example, when in London I stay in Berjaya's Eden. Berjaya also has properties in Mauritius and also many affiliates in Thailand, Australia, Indonesia, China and many more. Check out at the URL I gave you. The other time share too have their own properties overseas. Of course RCI has a nice thick booklet with all their "properties" overseas. What you could do is join the time share then try out the RCI benefits for a year or so, then decide whether you want to continue later on.

I did join RCI the first few years and then decided that it wasnt worth paying the annual subscription, and gave it up altogether. But I am still happy with just using other Berjaya's properties and affiliate resorts.

wufei
13-01-2006, 07:04 PM
This is my calculation for the cost of 1 night of accommodation :-

Cost of BVC Membership = RM 19,000
Time span = 38 years
Annual maintenance fee = RM 262

So here is the calculation :-

Total cost per year = (RM 19,000 / 38 years ) + RM 262 = RM 762

Total cost per night accommodation = RM 762/7 nights
= RM 109 per night per room.



Now the amount I paid for 2 bedroom apartment in Century Mahkota Hotel = RM 335 with 4 buffet breakfast.

How much Berjaya needs from me with the same accommodation and without breakfast of 4 = (RM 109 + 109 ) cost + surcharge RM 120 = RM 338

I donít mind about the few ringgit different but if you compare with the buffet breakfast they provide FOC for 4 persons, you will feel the pinch over there. Lets say buffet breakfast = RM 15, RM 15 X 4 = RM 60 , RM 60 bucks different , thatís a lot.

Regards
Wufei

wufei
13-01-2006, 07:06 PM
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c189/wufei2/CenturyMahkotaMelaka1.jpg

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c189/wufei2/A26CenturyMahkotaMelaka.jpg

joker2107
13-01-2006, 07:52 PM
thats not a very fair comparison, wufei. :(

u r looking at 2day only n also in msia only. time sharing clubs like bvc offer u facilities overseas too. if u avail yrself 2 rooms in, say london for 5 nights, u'd hv recovered a couple of years cost by yr accounting methodology.

n 10, 20 yrs down d line, yr century mahkota will not b rm109 anymore.

but u must also factor in d up front capital cost, interest on holding cost, opportunity costs, n d boredom costs of d same destinations 4 38 yrs.... n yr "commitment" 2 hv annual holidays away from home (incl tioman?) (ya, u may accumulate days, etc but its a hassle n theres no gtee u get it, just like theres no gtee u get yr rms on the days u r in london).

i ve a couple more reasons y i did not sign up but i shall refrain from possible slander here. ;) after all, s very well said, worth it or not, u decide! :D

wufei
13-01-2006, 08:11 PM
Sorry, looks like I have to make some exclusion terms here.

Actually I was targeting the comparision on those affliated hotels, not those own by Berjaya. I am sorry about the confusion.

Those own by Berjaya

Berjaya Langkawi Beach & Spa Resort
Berjaya Tioman Beach, Golf & Spa Resort
Berjaya Tioman Suites
Berjaya Redang Beach Resort
Berjaya Redang Spa Resort
Berjaya Georgetown Hotel
Berjaya Palace Hotel
Berjaya Times Square Hotel
& Convention Center
KL Plaza Suites
Bukit Tinggi Golf & Country Club
Colmar Tropicale
Meranti Park Suites
Berjaya Le Morne Beach Resort & Casino
Berjaya Beau Vallon Bay Beach Resort & Casino
Berjaya Mahe Beach Resort
Berjaya Praslin Beach Resort
Berjaya Mount Royal Beach Hotel
Berjaya Eden Park Hotel

wufei
13-01-2006, 08:23 PM
thats not a very fair comparison, wufei. :(

Don't be so sad, I just bring out this as an information for those who wants to purchase BVC, while we, the old timers feels that we have to mention it to those new purchasers because this kind of info you wont get it from your sales representative.


u r looking at 2day only n also in msia only. time sharing clubs like bvc offer u facilities overseas too. if u avail yrself 2 rooms in, say london for 5 nights, u'd hv recovered a couple of years cost by yr accounting methodology.

38 years..... You can count from your fingers, how many is Berjaya Own hotels in the world. For 38 years do you think that you will go to London for 38 years? We must look at other alternative isn't it. If BVC just to target those who only goes to oversea , then they wont have so many purchasers isn't it.


n 10, 20 yrs down d line, yr century mahkota will not b rm109 anymore.
Yes this is true.


but u must also factor in d up front capital cost, interest on holding cost, opportunity costs, n d boredom costs of d same destinations 4 38 yrs.... n yr "commitment" 2 hv annual holidays away from home (incl tioman?) (ya, u may accumulate days, etc but its a hassle n theres no gtee u get it, just like theres no gtee u get yr rms on the days u r in london).
Well said. I have not try overseas yet, For in Malaysia, reservation is a pain. I mean for those island resorts. Such as Penang, KK, PD, we looks for other alternatives. Berjaya hotels for inland is not that great.


i ve a couple more reasons y i did not sign up but i shall refrain from possible slander here. ;) after all, s very well said, worth it or not, u decide! :D

Thanks

For those who wants to go vacation to the island, wait for MATTA fair. Buy from Berjaya booth. Those prices they offered automaticly killed all the members from buying the vacation club, unless you are frequent traveller to overseas.

If you want calculation, I might do it in the next few posting upon request. And I hope I still can find the info.

mlkok
13-01-2006, 09:19 PM
Put it in another way to look is:
Would you pay 19k now for vacation in future that you might or might not take? And also seems like a very narrow list of places. As far as I know, they also put a lot of restriction on the time you can book those hotels.
So back to the original question: Why am I paying thru my nose so someone who will control when and where I take my vacation? :confused:

joker2107
14-01-2006, 11:53 PM
mlkok, u've got a great way of saying in 5 screen lines what a joker repeats in a screen and a half. bravo - may joker got 2 learn precis from u ;)

burntan
15-01-2006, 10:01 AM
When the time I join BVC, I only pay RM20k for Esteem membership that come with 14 nights instead of 7. So, RM20k / 38 years + RM350(maintenance) = ~RM70 per room per night.

One night stay at Mutiara Taman Negara cost you RM350, but I only pay RM80 affiliate surcharge during super peak season some more. Worth it or not?

You may not want to stay at BVC home resort every year for the next 38 years, but you can always exchange your entitlement with other vacation club member and I tell you, BVC give you better exchange power. I am currently able to exchange from 3 other timeshare vacation club so my choice of resorts are wider and other vacation club members love to exchange with me.

jack10dd
15-01-2006, 12:55 PM
What bout the BVC promise to pay back the 20K to the customer after 38 years? Is that true?

cskok8
15-01-2006, 07:19 PM
I joined in 2000 when it cost RM 10000 for the 7-night per year membership. RM 3000 up front and RM 200 monthly. You get back the RM 10000 at the end of the 38 (or 37? can't remember) years. Of course by then it may only buy you a set of car tyres. :D

Among all the time-share, I think BVC is the best. They have 3 categories of resorts; their own (no payments at all), affiliate, where you have to pay a small supplement and exchange (RCI-worldwide but must take in one week block and hefty surcharge). Most time-share only offer their own (limited) and RCI.

CH
16-01-2006, 10:21 AM
Just for the info.

There are a whole bunch of company out there to help you sell off the club membership which promise you a few times return from your original purchased price.

If you feel that you are cheated from the purchase and cannot sell back the membership (which normally the case), you can find one of them and sell it off, than make some profit. Again, you have to choose wisely as there are terms and conditions apply.

I heard but not seen, some of them bought the membership for 20K and sold it for 80K. Again, your judgement calls.

C H

wufei
16-01-2006, 11:23 AM
No!!!!! Don't!!!!!! They are cheaters, don't sell to them. They want you to sell to them 1st then. After they conclude the sale only they give u the money.

<This was the 1st time I attend their talk talk long long time ago. And I won't go anymore to these cheaters>

burntan
16-01-2006, 12:52 PM
I joined in 2000 when it cost RM 10000 for the 7-night per year membership. RM 3000 up front and RM 200 monthly. You get back the RM 10000 at the end of the 38 (or 37? can't remember) years. Of course by then it may only buy you a set of car tyres. :D

Among all the time-share, I think BVC is the best. They have 3 categories of resorts; their own (no payments at all), affiliate, where you have to pay a small supplement and exchange (RCI-worldwide but must take in one week block and hefty surcharge). Most time-share only offer their own (limited) and RCI.

I joined BVC and CHVC (Country Hieght), my brother joined Legend Worldwide vacation club and my friend joined Awana Vacation Club. So, with exchange resorts, I can enjoy resorts in all 4 vacation clubs :D

FYI, other vacation clubs (timeshare club) do offer affiliate hotels for their members as well, further more most of them didn't charge surcharge for their affliate resorts.

However, I do agree BVC is the best in term of resort quality, customer service and value for money.

wufei
17-01-2006, 06:35 PM
I joined BVC and CHVC (Country Hieght), my brother joined Legend Worldwide vacation club and my friend joined Awana Vacation Club. So, with exchange resorts, I can enjoy resorts in all 4 vacation clubs :D

FYI, other vacation clubs (timeshare club) do offer affiliate hotels for their members as well, further more most of them didn't charge surcharge for their affliate resorts.

However, I do agree BVC is the best in term of resort quality, customer service and value for money.

Yes, this is what different from BVC. Other did not charge surcharge. BVC surcharge is variable from time to time and years to years.

Resort Quality - No complain

Customer service - BAD
03-2116 9999 same with Screamyx 1300889515
Berjaya Air counter in BVC KL Plaza even worse. Bad
experience. Lodged Complain report.

Value for money - Still questionable.

Other than that, this thing just come in time. Today newspaper THE STAR, JAN 17 2006, Berjaya Redang offer FROM RM 498, Free 2 nights + Breakfast.

That means u went there by flight, you use your 2 nights + No breakfast. Cost = RM 498 not inclusive of airport tax . That means you dont need to have BVC in order to earn those privelledge. In other words, they are killing all BVC members. What do u think?

17/01/2006, Reservation for Berjaya Redang 01/04/2006, 3 rooms. Only manage to get 2 rooms. Fed up, Reserved Laguna instead. Good deal - RM 268 all inclusive except airport transfer.

FYI, the ferry charges (Redang) is very unreasonable - RM80 bucks 2 way is too much compare with others resort which is FOC.

burntan
18-01-2006, 11:01 AM
Today newspaper THE STAR, JAN 17 2006, Berjaya Redang offer FROM RM 498, [B]Free 2 nights + Breakfast.

That means u went there by flight, you use your 2 nights + No breakfast. Cost = RM 498 not inclusive of airport tax . That means you dont need to have BVC in order to earn those privelledge. In other words, they are killing all BVC members. What do u think?

With BVC, you won't need to wait for special offer like this during low season to travel :)


17/01/2006, Reservation for Berjaya Redang 01/04/2006, 3 rooms. Only manage to get 2 rooms. Fed up, Reserved Laguna instead. Good deal - RM 268 all inclusive except airport transfer.

FYI, the ferry charges (Redang) is very unreasonable - RM80 bucks 2 way is too much compare with others resort which is FOC.

One thing those timeshare vacatino club won't tell you is they have some kind of internal policy that only allow maximum 2 rooms per member for each booking. Of cause they won't tell you this policy, they will just say it is fully booked and only left 2 rooms available. However if you call up again using other membership number to book, you will get it. So, if you really need to book for more than 2 rooms, you may use another membership number to book for the extra room. I always do that.

So wufei, please keep me in your contact list, next time if you need to book more than 2 rooms, you can use my membership to book for the extra room. We help each other, ok?

wufei
18-01-2006, 11:57 AM
So wufei, please keep me in your contact list, next time if you need to book more than 2 rooms, you can use my membership to book for the extra room. We help each other, ok?

Yes no problem, I still have 16 night entitlements. 2 nights going to expired end of March.

ooice
18-01-2006, 03:58 PM
wufei & burntan,

I have 14days entitlement left, do contact me if u want 2 xchange ur entitlements :D

email me at: ooice@livelifecool.com

wufei
17-02-2006, 02:50 PM
Hah, after a long while I found the scanlation for this adv during the last MITM.

Look at 2D1N
Timesquare RM248
* KL PLaza RM180
Berjaya Penang RM128
Colmar RM180
Berjaya Palace RM98
* Berjaya Duxton Singapore RM258

All with breakfast except those with *
Those advantage to BVC member is highlighted in red

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c189/wufei2/MITM-Fair.jpg

leewinnie46
17-02-2006, 03:54 PM
have anyone ever try to stay at oversea for a short trip and discover it worth the money paid RM10,000 or RM20,000 for 38 years ? please elaborate how much would be the maintenance fee, service charge and etc fee..

can you use berjaya facilities such as tennis court, swimming pool, gym and sauce throughtout the year...? (Sunway vacation club offer that woh)..

i am not any vacation club member yet..

wufei
17-02-2006, 04:14 PM
have anyone ever try to stay at oversea for a short trip and discover it worth the money paid RM10,000 or RM20,000 for 38 years ? please elaborate how much would be the maintenance fee, service charge and etc fee..

can you use berjaya facilities such as tennis court, swimming pool, gym and sauce throughtout the year...? (Sunway vacation club offer that woh)..

i am not any vacation club member yet..

you can get my calculation from my post #13
http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/upload/showpost.php?p=107002&postcount=13

1. Oversea trip is definately worth it because of the forex.
Another factor is : How often do go overseas ?

Maintenance fee per annum = RM262
Surcharge for affliliated hotels is vary in between RM30 - RM610.

Yes you can use the swimming pool (good condition and always crowded), gym (Poorly maintain). No tennis court no basketball court, no sauna &etc.
The club house is in KL Plaza. (Jam like mad + expensive parking). If they changed the club house to Berjaya Time Square, it will be very much better.

Edit : How much is Sunway Vacation Club

leewinnie46
17-02-2006, 05:19 PM
RM21800 ... you can use their facility where ever the Sunway Hotel ... resort located... expensive or cheap ?

leewinnie46
17-02-2006, 05:24 PM
wufei, i need to travel to USA every twice a year to maintain my pr (need to apply for reentry permit)..

but don't know whether they got clean place, clean apartment, good facilities, daily service (as same as hotel) ?

wufei
17-02-2006, 05:29 PM
then the one you need is timeshare that can deposit into RCI.
1. Do you have any home / affliated resorts in US? Any surcharge?
2. What is the payment method like? Any payback?
3. How flexible is the reservation. BVC, I can book 1 day 2 days, 3 days and so on.
For Swiss Garden Timeshare, u use up monday , u cannot reuse again on Monday. If you want to book in weekend u need to use 2 weekdays in exchange if you dont have weekend entitlement anymore. This is pretty ridiculous thats y I shift from Swiss to BVC
4. BVC pay my 2 years RCI

RCI = Resort Condominium Interchange
http;//www.rci.com

leewinnie46
17-02-2006, 05:46 PM
currently i am homeless in USA, i didn't participate in any timeshare but if it worth to invest.... i would consider..

but those thing factor in there is what we see but the cleanliness it's the important factor

wufei
17-02-2006, 05:48 PM
Of course is clean. We pay annual maintenance fees every year to maintain the resorts.

leewinnie46
17-02-2006, 06:04 PM
ic i go to some blog /forum and they told me that it's not a clean one

sukkimi
22-02-2006, 01:21 AM
I've join Country Height VAcation Club. Now i'm not sure weather it is worth it or not.

BVC - RCI
Country Heights uses Interval World. ALso like RCI you need to pay annual fees (USD75).

Yes, i agree if i'm goin to US/Europe then the vacation club nights is worth the 20K for 38 years. Other wise.. I will be visiting countries with low value accomodation nights

wufei
22-02-2006, 08:32 AM
you look at RCI fees. Its another rip off if you are paying your BVC instalment + annual maintenance fee then you pay for RCI.

This is the fees charged by RCI

Annual subscription = S$148, renewal for 1 year = S$150

other than that each exchange u need to pay:-

Asia Pacific exchange - S$175
International Exchange - S$335

Guest certificete S$70

burntan
22-02-2006, 11:13 AM
Any Swiss Garden Vacation members here? I would like to keep in touch with one of them for future exchange..... they have affiliate hotel in Hong Kong which most other timeshare vacation clubs don't have.

sukkimi
22-02-2006, 11:50 AM
BVC members,

Wanna ask you all Berjaya Affiliated Hotels in Hong Kong, do you need to pay surchage for holidays nights ? If yes do how much ah ?

Thanks

wufei
22-02-2006, 11:56 AM
B.P International Kowloon
01/11/2005 - 15/11/2005 380.00
16/11/2005 - 11/12/2005 210.00
12/12/2005 - 19/12/2005 300.00
21/12/2005 - 03/01/2006 240.00

Additional RM 40 for Fri & Sat


Langham Place or New World Renaissance / Nikko Hotel
01/11/2005 - 15/11/2005 620.00
16/11/2005 - 09/12/2005 380.00
10/12/2005 - 03/01/2006 620.00

Kimberley Hotel or Eaton Hotel or Harbour Plaza Metropolis

01/11/2005 - 15/11/2005 450.00
16/11/2005 - 09/12/2005 280.00
10/12/2005 - 03/01/2006 450.00

Additional RM 80 for Fri & Sat

What u guy think? To me is pretty expensive

ooice
22-02-2006, 01:46 PM
Hi,

4 d HK hotel rate, is cheap compared 2 d published rate. D cheapest published rate I grabbed from d respective hotel site r:
1) Harbor Plaza Metropolis - HKD$1530 (excl. 13% tax)
2) Langham Place - HKD$2316 (incl tax)

In summary d rate is halved.

sukkimi
22-02-2006, 02:00 PM
The additional RM40 / RM80 for weekend is per room per night right ?
How about weekdays, as a BVC member , do you still need to pay ?

Eg :

B.P International Kowloon
01/11/2005 - 15/11/2005 380.00

Does that means BVC member have to pay this rate 380 (RM / HK$)

Thanks

wufei
22-02-2006, 02:05 PM
The additional RM40 / RM80 for weekend is per room per night right ?
How about weekdays, as a BVC member , do you still need to pay ?

Eg :

B.P International Kowloon
01/11/2005 - 15/11/2005 380.00

Does that means BVC member have to pay this rate 380 (RM / HK$)

Thanks

BVC Cost per night = Rm109 so I make it RM110 for easy calculation
(Refer my previous post if you want to know how to get RM109)

If you want to have B.P.International Kowloon at 01/11/2005 - 15/11/2005 on weekend = RM 110+RM380+RM40 (Fri or Sat) = RM530.

Sorry for the confusion.

sukkimi
22-02-2006, 02:38 PM
Oh no that means still have to pay lah... Peak period up to RM500 - might as well book it tru online!
Wah... i thought bering BVC member no need to pay mah. Then what's the point they say affiliate hotel ?

Country Height all hotel also no need to pay even on weekends. Unless you wanna use Interval World (Pay only Interval World Annual Fees)

wufei
22-02-2006, 02:42 PM
Oh no that means still have to pay lah... Peak period up to RM500 - might as well book it tru online!
Wah... i thought bering BVC member no need to pay mah. Then what's the point they say affiliate hotel ?

Country Height all hotel also no need to pay even on weekends. Unless you wanna use Interval World (Pay only Interval World Annual Fees)

Yah , thats y i said its start to rip off the members. :mad: :mad: :mad:
And the surcharge is vary from time to time.

Bearing BVC membership no need to pay is only for Berjaya own hotels
such as:

Berjaya Langkawi Beach & Spa Resort
Berjaya Tioman Beach, Golf & Spa Resort
Berjaya Tioman Suites
Berjaya Redang Beach Resort
Berjaya Redang Spa Resort
Berjaya Georgetown Hotel
Berjaya Palace Hotel
KL Plaza Suites
Meranti Park Suites
Berjaya Le Morne Beach Resort & Casino
Berjaya Beau Vallon Bay Beach Resort & Casino
Berjaya Mahe Beach Resort
Berjaya Praslin Beach Resort
Berjaya Mount Royal Beach Hotel
Berjaya Eden Park Hotel

burntan
22-02-2006, 02:54 PM
Oh no that means still have to pay lah... Peak period up to RM500 - might as well book it tru online!
Wah... i thought bering BVC member no need to pay mah. Then what's the point they say affiliate hotel ?

Country Height all hotel also no need to pay even on weekends. Unless you wanna use Interval World (Pay only Interval World Annual Fees)

But CHVC didn't even have Hong Kong hotel option for you mah.... even you willing to pay. :(

However, if you know someone have Swiss Garden Vacation club membership, then you can exchange your entitlement with them, cause SGVC members can get totaly FREE affiliate hotel at Hong Kong and the location is not bad as well which is located at Tsim Sa Chui.

wufei
22-02-2006, 03:19 PM
But CHVC didn't even have Hong Kong hotel option for you mah.... even you willing to pay. :(

However, if you know someone have Swiss Garden Vacation club membership, then you can exchange your entitlement with them, cause SGVC members can get totaly FREE affiliate hotel at Hong Kong and the location is not bad as well which is located at Tsim Sa Chui.

Burntan, can I confirm that this system is still exist in SGVC?
1 week 7 night -- > M T W T F S S
1. If I used up Monday, and I can't use it again on Monday although I have 6 nights (T W T F S S) left?
2. If I want to use Sat and my entitlement for Sat used up. I need to use 2 weekdays, lets say T & W to change for Saturday.

evelynlim
22-02-2006, 04:24 PM
I actually didn't sign up for any vacation club membership & never in my mind to sign up as well even though pestered by all the sales personel. However I like to get my friends whom has joined those clubs & hardly utilised to book the hotels for me and sell it to me at a very special price :D
RM100.00 per night for Berjaya Langkawi Resort, I think is a very good price. :)

wufei
22-02-2006, 04:39 PM
I actually didn't sign up for any vacation club membership & never in my mind to sign up as well even though pestered by all the sales personel. However I like to get my friends whom has joined those clubs & hardly utilised to book the hotels for me and sell it to me at a very special price :D
RM100.00 per night for Berjaya Langkawi Resort, I think is a very good price. :)
Very good deal. Sell below cost.

INHO, dont buy any vacation club if you not a frequent oversea traveller.

burntan
22-02-2006, 05:00 PM
Burntan, can I confirm that this system is still exist in SGVC?
1 week 7 night -- > M T W T F S S
1. If I used up Monday, and I can't use it again on Monday although I have 6 nights (T W T F S S) left?
2. If I want to use Sat and my entitlement for Sat used up. I need to use 2 weekdays, lets say T & W to change for Saturday.

I don't know, I am not one of the SGIVC member, but I don't think they have such system, which is not make sense at all. I can understand that they value weekend twice as much as weekday, but for what reason they don't allow you to use all your 7 days on Monday (which is a weekday)?

All vacation clubs have this 2 weekend limitation in their contract, but some of them really don't practice strictly for it, like my BVC members, I never have problem booking on weekend, in fact most of my bookings are on weekend.

wufei
22-02-2006, 05:18 PM
I don't know, I am not one of the SGIVC member, but I don't think they have such system, which is not make sense at all. I can understand that they value weekend twice as much as weekday, but for what reason they don't allow you to use all your 7 days on Monday (which is a weekday)?

All vacation clubs have this 2 weekend limitation in their contract, but some of them really don't practice strictly for it, like my BVC members, I never have problem booking on weekend, in fact most of my bookings are on weekend.

same with me...All my BVC booking is on the weekend

my History :
At first I bought SGIVC 1st. That f*** up sales personnel did not tell me all those limitations, just tell you how good is it and how good it is. After I sign up, I read the terms and conditions line by line, then only i realised.

So after that I met Christine from Berjaya. So I made a deal with her, you can help me to cancel my SGIVC and get back all my money I have paid, then I buy BVC from you and I take all that money to pay BVC.

Indeed every thing go on fine. At that time BVC has introduces payback scheme. and the surchage for hotel is very low. Sigh....now only we see the setback......

For your information : the above is the biiggest restrictions and disadvantage of SGIVC

leewinnie46
22-02-2006, 09:21 PM
please help as i am quite blur as say i have a situation that currently need to go back to usa for two week and stay in katy, houston.

if i need a membership for this, what would be the charges i need to bear, maintenance fee, rci fee or surcharge or etc ??

i never enrol one so i am quite of blur to know the inside story...

sukkimi
22-02-2006, 10:57 PM
leewinnie46,

So you thinking to get a vacation club yourself ?

IN MAlaysia, they have RCI or II.
Apart from maintenance fees (Mine is CHVC RM399 annual) varies from every Vacation Club you also gotto pay for RCI (this one i am not sure) / II fees (USD73 yearly)

I suggest you buy second hand one
http://www.e-dragonlands.com/index.cfm
- This link has all about vacation club . A lelong web site for vacation club members

Oh so Hong Kong hotel only SGIV has it without surcharge.

Wah BVC surcharge so much.

NVM since all of us from different vacation club, we can exchange our nights with each other :) We can enjoy so many vacation club!

RVN10
23-02-2006, 01:16 AM
Who ever thinking of going for holiday, wait for matta fair 17 - 19 march. For you ppl info BHR(berjaya hotel & resort) package start from RM 258 per person for 3days/2night (twin sharing) for any of their resort. the choice is your's to make, you can spend on night at BTSKL and another night at Colmar Tropicale or both night at Redang, and itz a full board package. Info is not out for general public, but this is one of their confirmed package for upcoming matta fair.


Shhhh.... With the inside knowledge i have, i recommend this pkg, the price is just a little above the cost of items in da package.

I will leak more info, later....

RVN10
23-02-2006, 01:28 AM
Abt BVC money back scheme, members dont have to worry much, itz for real and ....(inside info) BVC have actually insured or form some kind of join venture with Pru*****tial Insurance. Later upon the maturity of your membership the money will be (ACTUALLY) paid back by Pru*** Insu****. For every membership they sell, BVC will pay or deposit certain amount of money with Pru Insu under some inverstment or endowment scheme, and pru insu will invest the money for return which they will take and they will pay BVC memeber upon the mentioned maturity.

Internal company secret, you guy never heard it from me***BVC cant withdraw or take back money they paid to Pru Insu under what ever condition or situation, when BVC deposit money with pru** insu, they make deposit directly under the BVC's memebrs name, so no way for the to withdraw and the member have no claim what so ever until maturity...this is BVC's plan to safeguard them self and to minisime and to reduse their risk exposure***

wufei
23-02-2006, 06:25 AM
IN MAlaysia, they have RCI or II.
Apart from maintenance fees (Mine is CHVC RM399 annual) varies from every Vacation Club you also gotto pay for RCI (this one i am not sure) / II fees (USD73 yearly)

BVC - I pay RM203 per month for membership (84 instalment for RM19000 membership) + RM 262 per annum maintenance charges. This is the standard charges. You need RCI , BVC pay 2 years membership for you, later you need to renew on the 3rd year onwards, S$150 per year renewal. When you make an exchange,

Asia Pacific exchange - S$175
International Exchange - S$335




NVM since all of us from different vacation club, we can exchange our nights with each other :) We can enjoy so many vacation club!


This is a good idea.


Who ever thinking of going for holiday, wait for matta fair 17 - 19 march. For you ppl info BHR(berjaya hotel & resort) package start from RM 258 per person for 3days/2night (twin sharing) for any of their resort. the choice is your's to make, you can spend on night at BTSKL and another night at Colmar Tropicale or both night at Redang, and itz a full board package. Info is not out for general public, but this is one of their confirmed package for upcoming matta fair.

Its something like that.
http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/upload/showpost.php?p=112448&postcount=30

Those are the disadvantage to BVC club members.


Abt BVC money back scheme, members dont have to worry much, itz for real and ....(inside info) BVC have actually insured or form some kind of join venture with Pru*****tial Insurance. Later upon the maturity of your membership the money will be (ACTUALLY) paid back by Pru*** Insu****. For every membership they sell, BVC will pay or deposit certain amount of money with Pru Insu under some inverstment or endowment scheme, and pru insu will invest the money for return which they will take and they will pay BVC memeber upon the mentioned maturity.

Internal company secret, you guy never heard it from me***BVC cant withdraw or take back money they paid to Pru Insu under what ever condition or situation, when BVC deposit money with pru** insu, they make deposit directly under the BVC's memebrs name, so no way for the to withdraw and the member have no claim what so ever until maturity...this is BVC's plan to safeguard them self and to minisime and to reduse their risk exposure***
This is true. It is stated in the agreement. they payback the total cost of your investment aftr 38 years. After 38years RM19000 will be just like kacang only, but you still get back something rather than nothing

sukkimi
23-02-2006, 10:50 AM
Its tru after 38 years - how much is RM20K ? and some more how old am i that time... the golden aged.. :D

burntan
23-02-2006, 10:54 AM
please help as i am quite blur as say i have a situation that currently need to go back to usa for two week and stay in katy, houston.

if i need a membership for this, what would be the charges i need to bear, maintenance fee, rci fee or surcharge or etc ??

i never enrol one so i am quite of blur to know the inside story...

If you are NOT planing to stay there every year, then it is NOT worth joining a timeshare vacation club for it, instead just rent from other timeshare vacation club members will do.

Go to http://www.RCI.com or http://www.intervalworld.com to check if the resorts there meet your need or not? If you found any, then let me know and I will quote you a price for 2 weeks stay there (which is guarantee cheaper than your standard walk-in price)

sukkimi
23-02-2006, 11:00 AM
Just want to share.
Country Heights also have pay back scheme by MAA. IF not mistaken they pay back after 35 years :rolleyes: Same as BVC they pay 100%

leewinnie46
23-02-2006, 11:12 AM
If you are NOT planing to stay there every year, then it is NOT worth joining a timeshare vacation club for it, instead just rent from other timeshare vacation club members will do.

not every year but every two year maybe.... look for texas, houston, near i-10 .... place is not so important but location

burntan
23-02-2006, 11:36 AM
not every year but every two year maybe.... look for texas, houston, near i-10 .... place is not so important but location

Most timeshare vacation club allow you to bring forward unused entitlement (each year 7 nights usually) to next year (limit to one year). If you really need to stay there 2 weeks every 2 years, then a timeshare membership is for you. You can check out the above 2 sites, RCI & Iterval International(I.I) to see which one offer you better resorts first then only decided which club to join (all clubs either partner with RCI or I.I)

sukkimi
26-02-2006, 11:42 AM
I stop at one of BVC sales booth at Times Square.... Wow the RCi fees is so much leh. And many hotels on surchage
By the way they tell me that Times Square Hotel is not fully owned by Berjaya that's why they make it surcharge lol.
They selling Exe RM24K and Esteem RM38K

cskok8
26-02-2006, 03:36 PM
WOW. Used to be RM 10K and 15K (in 2000).

starrnorth88
27-02-2006, 01:32 AM
time sharing is the biggest con game in town. Invested in one and got cheated. Remember Golden Resort ? Those bugger directors sold the property to MAA because they borrow from MAA and cannot pay back. So sold it - actually I think just give to MAA to cover the loan. RM8 million only they sold. My goodness for that property- worth many times more. If they tell me I think I can raise RM8 mil for them to buy that building.

I also never buy MAA insurance, or their shares. Ethicallythey should not have bought from golden resort. just cutthroat opportunist.

wufei
07-04-2006, 06:51 PM
Damn !!! Got Con by Berjaya again. Planning for Bali trip.

Swiss Belhotel - Bali Aga Hotel, Nusa Dua Bali (formerly known as Bali Aga Hotel) - SURCHARGE RM 120 + cost (RM110) = RM 230.00

From Hotel Website http://www.indo.com/hotels/swiss-belhotel/room.html
US$ 69 X 3.8 = RM 262.22 (inclusive of breakfast). Don't tell me breakfast for 2 worth RM 30bucks.


What is the difference between having BVC and non BVC....I still dont get it.

kookie
16-04-2006, 04:19 AM
Hi . Just thought i'd share this info : Sunway International Vacation Club has got a pretty good deal. Apparently no surcharges etc as compared to berjaya. Can get a package of 7 days for interval :) years for bout 8k. Do check it out whoever that is interested in timeshare. Initially would introduce a whopping 28k but will go down to 8k if don't need so many days.

laksayummy
18-07-2006, 08:30 AM
Hi

I came across this discussion while surfing and thought I would drop in to share about our personal experience for the benefit of those in the decision making process.

Please note : I am NOT a salesperson for Berjaya nor do I have a vested interest in it. Just thought I could share some personal experience and opinion in case it may help someone else.


We joined the Berjaya Vacation Club in 1997 and have been making use of the benefits in full every year. Before deciding to join, we had attended a few other timeshare presentations (including RCI) but were not impressed to part with our hard-earned money. It did not make sense to us about buying some timeshare in some faraway countries (the further/more remote the cheaper, if I recall correctly) where it is expensive to travel there (how many of us can afford to vacation in Spain every year?) or else you have to pay the exchange fees on top of the annual maintenance fees.

After a few presentations and some research, we concluded that it would be best to buy into a country where you are sure to visit the most, and in our case - it is Malaysia, of course! :) We lived in Singapore at that time, so Malaysia was always a good break for us. However, at that time, we had not even heard of Berjaya, so we put this topic on the shelf until some months later, we had to travel to the States and that's when we started to seriously search for "timeshare" again. In the course of the search, we found Berjaya.
The greatest pull factor was - It had many destinations all over Malaysia and we were sure to visit again and again. The bonus which we did not expect was getting the money back, something no other timeshare companies offer, even though the 20k would be peanuts in 38 yrs, it would still be something. Also, membership is transferable, including to our kids. The sales executive was surprised at such a ready client!

At the time of purchase, we were also given free RCI membership for the first 2 years, so we really made full use of it during our stay in the USA, especially with a family of 6! Two years later, we also stayed at Berjaya Eden in London which is real value for money.

Even if you do not travel overseas, some places in Malaysia would be good
value for money as well, eg, Pulau Tioman Berjaya Chalets or Suites. We are into our 10th year and have been making use of benefits year after year, and even used a few days of exchange as a wedding gift!

However, it would be fair to also state that while most stays have been pleasant, there were a couple of resorts which we werent too impressed about. Cameron Highlands Equitorial Hotel (the lowrise apartments) came to mind - the unit we checked into smelt musty and I almost had an asthmatic attack upon checking in. I was almost locked in the toilet as well! However, upon request, we were given alternative hotel rooms. Another is KL Plaza Suites - the last time we were there, the place looked run down and unless the place has been upgraded, we dont think we'll check in there again. ;)
The observation from staying in different resorts is - housekeeping standards do vary from place to place.

Have a great day!

girl2
18-07-2006, 12:41 PM
Everything has its pros & cons. During holiday periods, resorts will be full. Everyone wants to go on holidays then so that they can minimise the usage of their leave entitlement. Resorts are also a business entity therefore they will need to maximise their profits. When the demand is high, resorts can then maximise their profits by selling at a higher price. So members would not find it so easy to get their rooms then. Unless you are the patient type and plan your holiday way in advance, the membership might not be worth it.

wufei
22-12-2006, 11:18 AM
Berjaya Vacation Club increase maintenance fee from RM 262 to RM 275.


http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/2650/1567/1600/182204/20061221180447.jpg

starrnorth
22-12-2006, 04:27 PM
DON'T, REPEAT DON'T go into any time-sharing or vacation club.

I bought twice, and twice got caught - company got bankrupt or got corrupted

Also during the non-bankrupt days, cannot book the time that I want. For some years I lost the usage but still got to pay maintainance.

You may enjoy it for the first few years, but the amount of upfront money you paid is not enough to cover for the future lost years.

wufei
22-12-2006, 04:35 PM
i agree.......

pepsi
22-12-2006, 05:11 PM
Everything has its pros & cons. During holiday periods, resorts will be full. Everyone wants to go on holidays then so that they can minimise the usage of their leave entitlement. Resorts are also a business entity therefore they will need to maximise their profits. When the demand is high, resorts can then maximise their profits by selling at a higher price. So members would not find it so easy to get their rooms then. Unless you are the patient type and plan your holiday way in advance, the membership might not be worth it.
Yup, I agree. When I call for booking as a member"sorry fully book" but call in as a non member still have rooms available. Very frustrating when when need to go on holiday, during the hols.I think need to plan way in advance, perhaps more than 2 months or more. Howlah?
The BVC resort and hotels also not very fantastic, so-so only. I think really suitable for business people who travel outstation frequently all year round, not on public holidays only. If go on the hols, buy from the holiday package better.

burntan
22-12-2006, 05:24 PM
Yup, I agree. When I call for booking as a member"sorry fully book" but call in as a non member still have rooms available. Very frustrating when when need to go on holiday, during the hols.I think need to plan way in advance, perhaps more than 2 months or more. Howlah?
The BVC resort and hotels also not very fantastic, so-so only. I think really suitable for business people who travel outstation frequently all year round, not on public holidays only. If go on the hols, buy from the holiday package better.

Actually it is better for you to know more about what is timeshare in the first place, then you won't have misundertanding like you experienced above. Timeshare company usually own few units of rooms in a particular resort, not fully owned. So if a member can't make their booking due to fully book, it is just mean that the allocated units or the timeshare company owned units is fully book, not the entire resort is fully book. That's why non-member can still make booking for other units not belong/allocate/assign to timeshare company.

BVC is still the best timeshare club to join compare to others, I am a happy members for many years.

pepsi
22-12-2006, 05:46 PM
Actually it is better for you to know more about what is timeshare in the first place, then you won't have misundertanding like you experienced above. Timeshare company usually own few units of rooms in a particular resort, not fully owned. So if a member can't make their booking due to fully book, it is just mean that the allocated units or the timeshare company owned units is fully book, not the entire resort is fully book. That's why non-member can still make booking for other units not belong/allocate/assign to timeshare company.

BVC is still the best timeshare club to join compare to others, I am a happy members for many years.
hi Burntan, I am aware of the FEW units allocated, however I still don't think it's a FAIR DEAL, not unless the units have grown proportionately to the number of members that have joined since than. How many rooms do you think they have allocated for the members ? If there are rooms available, perhaps they should consider giving it to the members instead. Why waste the rooms if the members could use it ? Oh yes, forgot...can make more money, right ? So go figure whether it's worth buying a membership that you may not be able to use during the holiday season or that you need to plan way way in advance .Between do they allow non members to use these rooms specially allocated for the members ?Also Burntan where have you stayed and how long in adavance you book to ensure you get the rooms during the holiday season. Must be prepared the next time I book for the holidays. ;)

burntan
23-12-2006, 11:12 AM
hi Burntan, I am aware of the FEW units allocated, however I still don't think it's a FAIR DEAL, not unless the units have grown proportionately to the number of members that have joined since than. How many rooms do you think they have allocated for the members ? If there are rooms available, perhaps they should consider giving it to the members instead. Why waste the rooms if the members could use it ? Oh yes, forgot...can make more money, right ? So go figure whether it's worth buying a membership that you may not be able to use during the holiday season or that you need to plan way way in advance .Between do they allow non members to use these rooms specially allocated for the members ?Also Burntan where have you stayed and how long in adavance you book to ensure you get the rooms during the holiday season. Must be prepared the next time I book for the holidays. ;)

All timeshare vacation club have to follow the regulation set by our government, that is the maximum number of members they can recruit must be equal or less than the number of rooms they owned x 52 weeks. For example, if a vacation club have a total of 100 rooms, then they can max recruit 100 x 52 = 5200 members. So there is no such thing as overly recruit of membership with limited rooms.

Basically, if there are rooms available, there is no reason for them to disppointed their members. However, in order to allow most members able to enjoy the benefit, they may limit number of rooms per member per booking, like BVC will limit 2 rooms per member per booking, if you wish to book for more than 2 rooms, get another membership or ask for other members to help.

Most of my booking are on school holiday and weekend. I usually book it in 1 to 3 months in advance, however I did manage to book for Singapore Duxton hotel in just 1 week in advance. For BVC home resort, I tried Berjaya Langkawi (very nice natural resort), Berjaya Redang, Berjaya Tioman, Berjaya Georgetown Penang, Corrus Hotel PD, Bukit Tinggit (Colmar Tropicale & Meranti Park) and KL plaza suite.

wufei
28-02-2007, 11:17 PM
Latest news

Berjaya has sold its Berjaya Palace in Kota Kinabalu

Today I want to make booking and they said it was sold and unavailable.

HEY!! BVC is cheating money!!!!!

BVC has sold 2 of its hotel since i join BVC
1. is in FIJI Island
2. Berjaya Palace

Other than that they somemore increase the maintenance fees and surcharges, OMG. :eek: :eek: :eek:

sukkimi
21-05-2008, 01:24 PM
Wanna ask BVC member,

When you all make booking for Affiliated Hotels for overseas hotel eg in Hong Kong , Australia. Do you need to pay additional fees?

If yes, is it a fix fees or depends on the period booking?

I'm Palace Vacation member and would like to exchange holidays with BVC member (for Singapore hotel) anyone want to exchange?

Thanks

wufei
21-05-2008, 02:19 PM
Wanna ask BVC member,

When you all make booking for Affiliated Hotels for overseas hotel eg in Hong Kong , Australia. Do you need to pay additional fees?

If yes, is it a fix fees or depends on the period booking?

I'm Palace Vacation member and would like to exchange holidays with BVC member (for Singapore hotel) anyone want to exchange?

Thanks
There are surcharge that you can get from bvc vacation club website.
Hong Kong is depends on period.

sukkimi
21-05-2008, 02:19 PM
Vacation Member pls visit Vacation Club Blog ( http://myvacationclub.blogspot.com/)

Babygill
21-05-2008, 03:14 PM
Hi,

Timeshare is all the same..
Before you join, everything is "CAN" "BOLEH"
But when the time has come you will get alot of excuses.

Even each of the vacation club have their own Hotels, thats doesn't make lots of different as they only have limited numbers of room for their Timeshare Members and normally Timeshare Members room a located on the ground floor.- " No View "
Every Timeshare Member are require to make an advance booking for their holiday but that is not guarantee if you can get it or not because its all base on the "season" that you are traveling.

Some more most of the hotel are affiliated hotel, and most of the affiliated hotel you will have to pay in which the call it "Surcharge". Timeshare didn't owned the Room.. they have a contract with the hotel... they rent the room from the hotel for 1 or 2 year contract for their Timeshare Members. And thats why Timeshare Member have to pay surcharge..

If anyone of you attend a presentation at the Timeshare office, they will show you a video, and beware, this video is about RCI and not their own resort/hotels. And during matta fair, don't ever believe that the price and discount that they are giving you is only during the matta fair, no it isn't, even you went to their Timeshare office the month after you still can get the deal. Everyday they will have the "Special Discount". So don't get rush to join the club, take your time. All the sales consultant will push / pressure their customer to decide on the same day, their reason is- its only for TODAY either YES or NO.. but if you come a week after they will still give you the same deal.. if they don't, then that must be their part of "ACT" - "WAYANG"

Be careful when joining Timeshare.. is not as good as what the sales consultant pitch to you. They are good at telling lies. They will be nice with you within the 10 days COP - cooling off period.

Non of the Timeshare Club are good. BVC is ok la.. but its better to pay when ever you want to go.. you can go any day you want, any season! even though you are paying 30K for 30 years of vacation, but you still will have to pay the maintenance fee that will increase by time to time, and also the hotel surcharge. We have matta fair twice a year, and to do a reservation through online for oversea hotel is actually much more better.

So beware of Timeshare, its not as good as what they pitched / present to you... they are good at con people.


:rolleyes:

logicman
21-05-2008, 06:03 PM
This scam has cheated many people. You still trust VT?

firefox
21-05-2008, 06:18 PM
Its a rip off. You have so many other affordable hotels to choose from, dont get tied down to BVC.

sukkimi
21-05-2008, 06:23 PM
Any BVC member want to exchange nights with palace vacation member (me) pls pm me

Joe Gomez
21-05-2008, 09:08 PM
.....You still trust VT?Only if I were Mahathir, I guess. :cool:

logicman
21-05-2008, 10:47 PM
Joe I see a bunch of banana..don't you? Back in 10-15year ago BVC is selling points for cash to redeem holidays in resorts abroad which does not even exist. I nearly became one of those fools...spending 7-8hours listening to club ambassadors..sigh.

Joe Gomez
22-05-2008, 08:57 AM
Joe I see a bunch of banana..don't you? ..............NO lah at the most I will have some fellow called Chua come in here to preach ........ "Hey Joe leave him alone lah ...... he is history now."
That is what this bloke did when I expressed my undying love for Lee Hwa Beng on another thread. ;)
But chang wont take this badly cos I have also expressed undying platonic love for The Changster, on many threads before. :D
So no banana lor, logicman. :D

satigue
14-06-2008, 03:22 PM
Vacation Member pls visit Vacation Club Blog ( http://myvacationclub.blogspot.com/)
hi sukkimi, aren't you doing anything about the withdrawal of the payback scheme? I feel that we are being cheated. i have just lodged my complain. if any of others out there are also a victim of CHVC, pls do same. we must not let them cheat our hard earned money!!! & pls do not sign the approval of the payback scheme form....they are cheating u again.
http://www.fomca.org.my/bmalay/search.php?search=country+heights&x=21&y=7

twinkle
16-06-2008, 06:29 PM
Latest news

Berjaya has sold its Berjaya Palace in Kota Kinabalu

Today I want to make booking and they said it was sold and unavailable.

HEY!! BVC is cheating money!!!!!

BVC has sold 2 of its hotel since i join BVC
1. is in FIJI Island
2. Berjaya Palace

Other than that they somemore increase the maintenance fees and surcharges, OMG. :eek: :eek: :eek:

Trying to book Redang Beach Resort but it is always fully booked and now it becomes afiliated resort starting from 1st june 2008..with a surcharge of RM200 per room per nite!! :mad: :mad: No prior notice from management too... they can remove their resorts as and when they want?? :confused: :confused:

wufei
02-07-2008, 10:25 AM
BVC is in detorating state.

CHEATING ALL THE MEMBERS.!!!!!

Berjaya Palace was sold
And now Berjaya Redang

What else?
Tioman
Langkawi

Now Clubhouse cannot use pulak.

Now they auto apply for RCI membership which I dont need it yet. What the hell is going on?

YOKEKEE
10-10-2008, 12:12 PM
i want to sell my BVC membership, any takers ?
entitlement: 14 nights
maturity: 38years
annual maintenance fee:RM330

i saw many people happy with their membership how about recommending my membership to your friend and make a brokerage from there ?

wufei
10-10-2008, 12:23 PM
i want to sell my BVC membership, any takers ?
entitlement: 14 nights
maturity: 38years
annual maintenance fee:RM330

i saw many people happy with their membership how about recommending my membership to your friend and make a brokerage from there ?

if got takers i also want to sell. Any buyers?
I dont think ppl wants. lousy vacation club

dragonfly
10-10-2008, 04:51 PM
Any Public Bank credit card holders received vouchers for discounted accomodation at equatorial hotel Cameron highlands? I have received 4 vouchers discounted at RM318 for each night. It looks too tempting and I wonder what's the catch!!!!!!!!!

Mat Bruce
10-10-2008, 05:37 PM
I have been a BVC member for at least 8 years. I don't use the clubhouse but I do use it earlier for local travel in the begining of my career, just to make sure that my family have at least 1 holiday a year.
I have used it for Singapore, Bangkok and London. The Berjaya Eden in London saved us quite a bit of money and it is beside Hyde Park. Went for a morning jog in Hyde Park and you think you are in heaven.My personal opinion? My family has enjoyed and made used of the benefits. I think it is one of the better card in Malaysia. If there is a better card, do let me know.

Mat Bruce
10-10-2008, 06:16 PM
I have been a BVC member for at least 8 years. I don't use the clubhouse but I do use it earlier for local travel in the begining of my career, just to make sure that my family have at least 1 holiday a year.
I have used it for Singapore, Bangkok and London. The Berjaya Eden in London saved us quite a bit of money and it is beside Hyde Park. Went for a morning jog in Hyde Park and you think you are in heaven.My personal opinion? My family has enjoyed and made used of the benefits. I think it is one of the better card in Malaysia. If there is a better card, do let me know.

Also, Berjaya Eden is right next to the train/subway which can get you anywhere in the city, we spent a few days in London, went to Paris for 2 nights and then came back to Berjaya Eden for 2 days before we flew back to Malaysia. It is so convenient,and we find that Berjaya in Bangkok is also right in the city, same with Singapore as well. Not your 5 star hotel, but ok if you are just visiting the cities with your family and you are out touring anyway.

twinkle
11-10-2008, 12:43 AM
Hi Mat Bruce,

Did u paid any surcharge for The Berjaya Eden in London or is this under our room night entitlements??

wufei
11-10-2008, 06:21 AM
Hi Mat Bruce,

Did u paid any surcharge for The Berjaya Eden in London or is this under our room night entitlements??


Berjaya Eden no need surcharge
Own hotel no need surcharge

cskok8
11-10-2008, 11:59 AM
Any Public Bank credit card holders received vouchers for discounted accomodation at equatorial hotel Cameron highlands? I have received 4 vouchers discounted at RM318 for each night. It looks too tempting and I wonder what's the catch!!!!!!!!!

Not sure but these deals usually are:

Not applicable during school holidays, weekends, eve of public holidays. Also the discount if off the rack rates (which are usually very high).

silver_bird
11-10-2008, 04:41 PM
How about this Club ?
Reliable or not ?
http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Saturday/NewsBreak/20081011153339/Article/index_html

patrick
11-10-2008, 06:42 PM
BVC is in detorating state.

CHEATING ALL THE MEMBERS.!!!!!

Berjaya Palace was sold
And now Berjaya Redang

What else?
Tioman
Langkawi

Now Clubhouse cannot use pulak.

Now they auto apply for RCI membership which I dont need it yet. What the hell is going on?

You are right. Many of us too have been a bit pissed by the various loss of rights and privileges. So those of you who are members, try to join the other members at Google group for BVCmembers to share problems and "fight" for members' rights.

patrick
11-10-2008, 06:45 PM
Berjaya Eden no need surcharge
Own hotel no need surcharge

Dont want to frighten you, but Berjaya Eden may also be taken out from Members' free to use properties. They wanted to remove this sometime ago but the Liaison Committee then protested vehemently and they relented. But we hear they may still do it. Anyway, lets wait and see.

twinkle
11-10-2008, 09:49 PM
Dont want to frighten you, but Berjaya Eden may also be taken out from Members' free to use properties. They wanted to remove this sometime ago but the Liaison Committee then protested vehemently and they relented. But we hear they may still do it. Anyway, lets wait and see.

That's what they did to Berjaya Redang isnt it?? Haizzz... :(

One by one they take it away, next 33 or 38years where shall we stay when we want to visit our "resort".. :p

Mat Bruce
12-10-2008, 10:53 PM
Dont want to frighten you, but Berjaya Eden may also be taken out from Members' free to use properties. They wanted to remove this sometime ago but the Liaison Committee then protested vehemently and they relented. But we hear they may still do it. Anyway, lets wait and see.

let us get a politician and lawyer to fight them, as a group, they better not play-play.

patrick
13-10-2008, 05:27 PM
let us get a politician and lawyer to fight them, as a group, they better not play-play.

Come join us at the google group first. Then perhaps we can take it from there. The link is:

http://groups.google.com/group/bvcmembers

patrick
13-10-2008, 05:32 PM
The last LC (Liaison Committee) was very upset when they withdrew the clubhouse facilities for members at KL Plaza. We fought very hard to get a replacement such as Berjaya Time Square. But management refused, saying that privilege was an additional benefit for members and therefore they didnt have to replace it. That was one of the reasons why most of the members from the last LC didnt want to stand for re-election again. It was quite frustrating at times not being able to protect the privileges of members.

Mat Bruce
13-10-2008, 08:26 PM
The last LC (Liaison Committee) was very upset when they withdrew the clubhouse facilities for members at KL Plaza. We fought very hard to get a replacement such as Berjaya Time Square. But management refused, saying that privilege was an additional benefit for members and therefore they didnt have to replace it. That was one of the reasons why most of the members from the last LC didnt want to stand for re-election again. It was quite frustrating at times not being able to protect the privileges of members.

It was touted as an attraction in their brochure, so that is false advertising.
Why not just get a petition going first; that is get members to write to BVC before action. This gives BVC management fair warning.

How about this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PetitionOnline

patrick
13-10-2008, 09:45 PM
It was touted as an attraction in their brochure, so that is false advertising.
Why not just get a petition going first; that is get members to write to BVC before action. This gives BVC management fair warning.

How about this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PetitionOnline

Ahhh...which brochure are you referring to? Can post a copy here or scan me a copy as attachment? Thanks.

Mat Bruce
13-10-2008, 10:47 PM
Ahhh...which brochure are you referring to? Can post a copy here or scan me a copy as attachment? Thanks.

tak ada lah , so long alreadi. they definitely use that as part of their marketing...it is not just my word..if more people can acknowledge that, that is enough proof in court of law.

patrick
14-10-2008, 01:04 PM
It was touted as an attraction in their brochure, so that is false advertising.
Why not just get a petition going first; that is get members to write to BVC before action. This gives BVC management fair warning.

How about this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PetitionOnline

Mat Bruce, why dont you start the petition. I will help canvass support, and then we the former LC Members will get together to present the petition to the Management. For your info, members of the last LC still get together informally occasionally to review current situation and look at options.

wufei
16-10-2008, 11:10 AM
1) Due to change in the marketing strategy and re-branding exercise of the Berjaya Hotels and Resorts division, the internal arrangement with Berjaya Hotels & Resorts has been terminated.
In view of this, new affiliate arrangements have been made with Berjaya Hotels & Resorts whereby members can stay at hotels and resorts listed below subject to payment of surcharge for check-in dates from 1/11/08 and onwards.

(i) Berjaya Eden Park Hotel, London, United Kingdom
(ii) Berjaya Beau Vallon Bay Beach Resort & Casino, The Seychelles
(iii) Berjaya Praslin Beach Resort, The Seychelles
(iv) Berjaya Mount Royal Beach Hotel, Colombo, Sri Lanka
For details of surcharge rates please refer to BVC website at www.berjayavacation.com.my

Berjaya Hotel Singapore = RM270 for member
DAYLIGHT ROBBERY!!!!!!

twinkle
21-10-2008, 03:47 PM
:eek: how can like that??? what's the point for us to join membership then!!!! :confused: Is there anything we can do now??

patrick
29-10-2008, 12:56 PM
:eek: how can like that??? what's the point for us to join membership then!!!! :confused: Is there anything we can do now??

My views. I think technically they may have a right to make these changes. But morally its wrong because when people sign up to be members, BVC didnt tell the clients that these privileges are extra benefits that can be taken away. The manner in which they are spelt out in the Agreement would probably not shed any light to a newbie. Myself not excluded. Only as we stay longer as members that we realize the "tricks" of the trade.

However, many of us feel that there was still a misrepresentation when they sold the "club" to us without explaining the full extent of the implications and possible consequences. As such, there may be a good possibility for a legal pursuit for a refund or a reinstatement of these rights and benefits.

More important now is that all members must come together and explore the various options to adopt.

wufei
29-10-2008, 01:12 PM
My views. I think technically they may have a right to make these changes. But morally its wrong because when people sign up to be members, BVC didnt tell the clients that these privileges are extra benefits that can be taken away. The manner in which they are spelt out in the Agreement would probably not shed any light to a newbie. Myself not excluded. Only as we stay longer as members that we realize the "tricks" of the trade.

However, many of us feel that there was still a misrepresentation when they sold the "club" to us without explaining the full extent of the implications and possible consequences. As such, there may be a good possibility for a legal pursuit for a refund or a reinstatement of these rights and benefits.

More important now is that all members must come together and explore the various options to adopt.

I LIKE THE WORD "REFUND"

twinkle
29-10-2008, 02:02 PM
i wrote in to complaint abt the surcharge they imposed on the redang beach resort in Jul08 and they replied me in a email.. can i show u all here?? saying what resorts listed under appendices I and II are remain unchange but others they have the rights to do ammendment. But i'm not sure what is the Appendices I and II all about??? :confused: :confused: :confused:
As u can see, I'm from S'pore therefore BVC classified me as S'pore member so when i called and checked w S'pore office, they also don't know what is appendices I and II!!!! They were supposed to get back to me but they didt, i didt bother to call them again.. BTW, do u guys know what is in the Appendices I and II?? can show me a copy??? :p

shaur_wei
12-01-2009, 04:41 PM
Dear twinkle

i'll scan and post to you in these few days.

Which resort category into which Appendices.

Appendices I & Appendices II is in-house resort.

and Berjaya Redang Spa is in Appendices II

After I read it, its sorry to said that the Redang Beach Resort is fall into the Appendices IIII.
inside did mention company have the right to so it.

thanks

shaur wei

twinkle
12-01-2009, 05:51 PM
Dear shaur_wei,

Thanks for your reply..

my email address : angelinenick@gmail.com

Thank you!
:)

USJ27Resident
12-01-2009, 06:02 PM
Berjaya Hotel Singapore = RM270 for member
DAYLIGHT ROBBERY!!!!!!

hehe... i gatal and went surf net to see how much non members would kena,... guess what...non-member [internet rate (https://secure.smartstays.com/) ] is SGD 140-160...(and that rate is thru a 3rd party). Am sure if direct booking - would be cheaper...

So my 2sen guess... BVC is not worth your hard earned $$$

Jey
12-01-2009, 06:55 PM
hehe... i gatal and went surf net to see how much non members would kena,... guess what...non-member [internet rate (https://secure.smartstays.com/) ] is SGD 140-160...(and that rate is thru a 3rd party). Am sure if direct booking - would be cheaper...

So my 2sen guess... BVC is not worth your hard earned $$$

hehehe.... that's what I thought too. :D

USJ27Resident
12-01-2009, 08:30 PM
I'll give you guys ONE simple hint on how to get GREAT hotel/resort rates...

E-MAIL the hotel concerned direct... not through some internet agent or 3rd party... and ASK them what is their best rates available... chances are, you'd get a better rate than walking into a hotel/resort lobby and asking for the prices... EVEN BETTER, if you are in the hospitality/tourism industry,tell them - and they'd give you an even better than better rates... sometimes like 50-75% off rack rates... :p

Just got back from Siem Reap and well... I got the rooms at USD60 per night [high season] when the rates are at USD160 per night.... Saved a ton !! :)

tupai
12-01-2009, 10:13 PM
I'll give you guys ONE simple hint on how to get GREAT hotel/resort rates...EVEN BETTER, if you are in the hospitality/tourism industry,tell them - and they'd give you an even better than better rates... sometimes like 50-75% off rack rates... :p

Just got back from Siem Reap and well... I got the rooms at USD60 per night [high season] when the rates are at USD160 per night.... Saved a ton !! :)

when in khao san road, u can find many kind of staff IDs for sale...anything from interpol detektif sargen to AnyAirline cabin crew or even Nippon fighter pilot staff card...you only need to have a pix taken there at an instant and viola! U can be anything u wanna be...even a staff nurse at Los Angeles Mental Hospital :D :D :D

GO!!!!!!!!! get a staff card and enjoy the hotel,restoran,car rental, massage, whatever that u rightly deserved lah :D :D

Yang Banyak staff kad latotupai

USJ27Resident
12-01-2009, 10:54 PM
when in khao san road, u can find many kind of staff IDs for sale...

Yang Banyak staff kad latotupai

Now that is scary man... !! :eek:

Btw... got ah? BVC member card ka? :p or that card tak boleh pakai... LoL!!

shaur_wei
13-01-2009, 07:52 PM
Dear shaur_wei,

Thanks for your reply..

my email address : angelinenick@gmail.com

Thank you!
:)

please check your email.
I just email to you.

thanks

shaur wei

shaur_wei
13-01-2009, 08:01 PM
Sorrry, guys

I only can attach very small file for you all to refer.

regarding the appendix i - iv

shaur_wei
13-01-2009, 08:02 PM
another info in the contract.

please refer

thanks

shaur wei

shaur_wei
13-01-2009, 08:04 PM
please refer
some of the terms and condition


thanks

shaur wei

shaur_wei
13-01-2009, 08:08 PM
to all,

if you still need to know which resort in which appendix,
(I just scanned the point that is related only-REDANG BEACH RESORT matter)
you can email your email add to me or post your email here.

i'll email for you

thanks

shaur wei

twinkle
15-01-2009, 07:07 PM
please check your email.
I just email to you.

thanks

shaur wei

Email received.. Thanks shaur wei :)

intanr
15-02-2011, 09:40 PM
Hello,
First time here and need help. I am trying to set up my business and short of capital and I have no other choice then to sell my Berjaya Vacation Club membership. Do let me know if anyone interested. You can reach me at 012-2980174 Intan.

Entitlement: 7 nights per year for 9 Berjaya Home Resorts and numerous affiliate hotels (local/oversea) as timely listed in BVC website. BVC members can also participate in RCI Vacation Exchange Program, terms and conditions applied.


Expired in another 24 years, i.e. 2035.

Current Selling Price: RM30,000 (33 years)
Annual Maintenance Fee: RM297.00 (as of 2010)

For serious buyer, kindly contact me for the best offer, in indulging yourself and your loved ones to all great and famous holiday destinations.

Thanks

Mat Bruce
18-02-2011, 12:50 AM
Hello,
First time here and need help. I am trying to set up my business and short of capital and I have no other choice then to sell my Berjaya Vacation Club membership. Do let me know if anyone interested. You can reach me at 012-2980174 Intan.

Entitlement: 7 nights per year for 9 Berjaya Home Resorts and numerous affiliate hotels (local/oversea) as timely listed in BVC website. BVC members can also participate in RCI Vacation Exchange Program, terms and conditions applied.


Expired in another 24 years, i.e. 2035.

Current Selling Price: RM30,000 (33 years)
Annual Maintenance Fee: RM297.00 (as of 2010)

For serious buyer, kindly contact me for the best offer, in indulging yourself and your loved ones to all great and famous holiday destinations.

Thanks


Why don't you keep it? I bought mine so that I can give the holidays to my deserving staff to bring their family.
It has been a good business tool for me.

jimijamison
21-02-2011, 01:50 PM
Hmm...have you ever had difficulties in booking? How about how many years in advance must you book? Timeshares all share the same problem - chronic undercapacity during the periods that you want to use them the most (such as school holidays, year end vacations, public holidays, etc). If you use only during non-peak periods, why even bother with timeshare - there are so many hotels out there that give pretty decent rates - without tying up your capital!

This has been a huge problem for BVC - don't take my word for it - do some serious investigative research and perhaps things have changed for the better?