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Life Ranger
09-01-2006, 02:25 PM
Before receiving this mail, I used to overhear a friend in engineering field mentioning the use of coke during his welding job......

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For those of you who love Coke/Pepsi...
Just when you thought you knew everything....

To clean a toilet:
Pour a can of Coca-Cola into the toilet bowl. Let the "real thing" sit for one hour, then flush clean. The citric acid in Coke removes stains from vitreous china.

To remove rust spots from chrome car bumpers:
Rub the bumper with a crumpled-up piece of Reynolds Wrap aluminum foil dipped in Coca-Cola.

To clean corrosion from car battery terminals:
Pour a can of Coca-Cola over the terminals to bubble away the corrosion.

To loosen a rusted bolt:
Applying a cloth soaked in Coca-Cola to the rusted bolt for several minutes.

To bake a moist ham:
Empty a can of Coca-Cola into the baking pan; Wrap the ham in aluminum foil, and bake. Thirty minutes before the ham is finished, remove the foil, allowing the drippings to mix with the Coke for a sumptuous brown gravy.

To remove grease from clothes:
Empty a can of Coke into a load of greasy clothes, add detergent, and run through a regular cycle. The Coca-Cola will help loosen grease stains. It will also clean road haze from your windshield.

AND WE DRINK THIS STUFF!

For your info:

The average pH of soft drinks, e.g. Coke, Pepsi is pH 3.4. This acidity is strong enough to dissolve teeth and bones! Our human body stops building bones at around the age of 30. After that it'll be dissolving about 8-18% of the bones each year through the urine depending on the acidity of the food intake (acidity does not depend on the taste of the food, but on the ratio of potassium / calcium / magnesium / etc. to phosphorus).

All the dissolved calcium compounds accumulate in the arteries, veins, skin tissue, organs. This affects the functioning of the kidney (kidney stones).

Soft drinks do not have any nutritional value (in terms of vitamins and minerals). They have higher sugar content, higher acidity, and more additives such as preservatives and colorings

Some people like to take cold soft drinks after each meal. Guess what's the impact? Our body has an optimum temperature of 37 degrees for the functioning of digestive enzymes. The temperature of cold soft drinks is much less than 37, sometimes quite close to 0. This will lower the effectiveness of the enzymes and put stress on the digestive system, digesting less food. In fact the food gets fermented. The fermented food produces bad smelling gases, decays and forms toxins which are absorbed in the intestines, get circulated in the blood and is delivered to the whole body. This spread of toxins can lead to the development of various diseases.

Think before you drink Coke or Pepsi or any another soft drink. Have you ever thought what you drink when you drink an aerated drink? You gulp down carbon dioxide, something that nobody in the world would advise you to do.

Some time ago, there was a competition in Delhi University "Who can drink the most Coke?". The winner drank 8 bottles and died on the spot because too much carbon dioxide in the blood and not enough oxygen. From then on, the principal banned all soft drinks from the university canteen.

Someone put a broken tooth in a bottle of Pepsi and in 10 days it is dissolved! Teeth and bones are the only human organ that stay intact for years after death. Imagine what the drink must be doing to your soft intestines and stomach lining!

http://www.mercola.com/2003/jul/9/soda_dangers.htm

VeeJay
09-01-2006, 02:38 PM
If I'm not mistaken, its just another hoax email...I havent read in full ( gotta run for a meeting ;-))

I remember writing to coke on similar claims, and the respond was that it was not true and on their webiste they gad a link to refute the story...

PLs do a google and check on coke website...

SunwayKid
09-01-2006, 03:29 PM
Whilst I can appreciate the fact that you are trying to highlight potential dangers, it is not right for you to spread rumours and panic people without verifying the authenticity of the claims. It is getting to the point of ridiculous for you to start a thread of every damn e-mail that you receive, without knowing, nor checking whether it is the truth or not! :mad: Do not be so reckless and start a thread based on rumour / gossip - in some countries, you can go to jail and be sued for slander. In fact, IMHO, I think you are in violation of rule 4b in this forum but it is the MOD that decides.

Most of it has been proven to be urban legend and was actually shown on TV some time back. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coca-Cola

The link that you state got no relevance to the allegations that were made. It just indicate the danger of excess consumption of sugar, aspartame, tap water and caffeine - which every coffee lover knows! Heck, every consumer in Subang will know what that brownish liquid called tap water that Syabas dispenses will do to you.

Knight1993
09-01-2006, 03:41 PM
i also have received this e-mail....the original is a .pps file,in other words,the original is a slideshow,and after reading it,i avoid coke and changed to 100plus,and other isotonick drinks.....

JackRyan1975
09-01-2006, 03:48 PM
Life Ranger,

You forgot to point out one BENEFIT of Coke. Pour coke onto bak kut teh and watch the worms crawl out of the meat. :D

orchipalar
09-01-2006, 04:24 PM
Err...yalor...there is too much going on these days...which would give Orchi anything from a diarrhoea...commoncold...headache...a nightmare or a stroke n even a heart attack...

So...Orchi for one would appreciate a lot...should anyone could attempt to suggest something more soothing instead of the so called constant hazards that Orchi might be addicted to...err...like coke pepsi coffee nicotine fastfood etc etc. or even amphetamine...glue...firecrackers n marijuana...

Ahem...Orchi knows ya meant well LifeRanger:)...perhaps it would be better if ya could join us this Thursday at MPSJ at 10:30am...to fight off some local warlords...whom are trying to feed us more with miseries...what say you?:)

billy
09-01-2006, 04:43 PM
It is nothing more refreshing while you work under the hot humid sun and your wife pour your a big mug of icy Coke. Life a beach !!!!!

Choon1980
09-01-2006, 04:56 PM
Ur, Life Ranger, don't take this the wrong way, but if you keep on starting posts like these, the only thing that I can eat in the future will be bread and water.

CCY
09-01-2006, 04:59 PM
Ur, Life Ranger, don't take this the wrong way, but if you keep on starting posts like these, the only thing that I can eat in the future will be bread and water.

No....you'll have a overdose of anti-toxin.....:p and I'll be hiding six feet underground from all the danger...:eek:

Choon1980
09-01-2006, 05:01 PM
No....you'll have a overdose of anti-toxin.....:p and I'll be hiding six feet underground from all the danger...:eek:

Darn, at this rate, I might as well have that Coke after all then. At least I'll die happy!

Life Ranger
09-01-2006, 05:20 PM
I understand what it is like to ask a smoker quit smoking, however for the good of the next generation, this kind of message has to outspread for collective awareness and enlightenment....

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http://www.mercola.com/2001/mar/10/soda_pop_dangers.htm
The Amazing Statistics and Dangers of Soda Pop

By Sally Squires

Americans drink more soda pop than ever before: More than 15 billion gallons were sold in 2000.

How healthful are these beverages, which provide a lot calories, sugars and caffeine but no significant nutritional value?

And what happens if you drink a lot of them at a very young age?

Nearly everyone by now has heard the litany on the presumed health effects of soft drinks:

Obesity
Tooth decay
Caffeine dependence
Weakened bones

To help separate fact from fiction, the Health section reviewed the latest scientific findings and asked an array of experts on both sides of the debate to weigh in on the topic. Be forewarned, however: Compared with the data available on tobacco and even dietary fat, the scientific evidence on soft drinks is less developed. The results can be a lot like soft drinks themselves, both sweet and sticky.

Obesity

One very recent, independent, peer-reviewed study demonstrates a strong link between soda consumption and childhood obesity.

One previous industry-supported, unpublished study showed no link. Explanations of the mechanism by which soda may lead to obesity have not yet been proved, though the evidence for them is strong.

Many people have long assumed that soda -- high in calories and sugar, low in nutrients -- can make kids fat. But until this month there was no solid, scientific evidence demonstrating this.

Reporting in The Lancet, a British medical journal, a team of Harvard researchers presented the first evidence linking soft drink consumption to childhood obesity. They found that 12-year-olds who drank soft drinks regularly were more likely to be overweight than those who didn't.

For each additional daily serving of sugar-sweetened soft drink consumed during the nearly two-year study, the risk of obesity increased 1.6 times.

Obesity experts called the Harvard findings important and praised the study for being prospective. In other words, the Harvard researchers spent 19 months following the children, rather than capturing a snapshot of data from just one day. It's considered statistically more valuable to conduct a study over a long period of time.

Researchers found that schoolchildren who drank soft drinks consumed almost 200 more calories per day than their counterparts who didn't down soft drinks. That finding helps support the notion that we don't compensate well for calories in liquid form.

Tooth Decay

Sugar isn't the only ingredient in soft drinks that causes tooth problems. The acids in soda pop are also notorious for etching tooth enamel in ways that can lead to cavities. "Acid begins to dissolve tooth enamel in only 20 minutes," notes the Ohio Dental Association in a release issued earlier this month.

Caffeine Dependence

The stimulant properties and dependence potential of caffeine in soda are well documented, as are their effects on children.

Ever tried going without your usual cup of java on the weekend? If so, you may have experienced a splitting headache, a slight rise in blood pressure, irritability and maybe even some stomach problems.

These well-documented symptoms describe the typical withdrawal process suffered by about half of regular caffeine consumers who go without their usual dose.

The soft drink industry agrees that caffeine causes the same effects in children as adults, but officials also note that there is wide variation in how people respond to caffeine. The simple solution, the industry says, is to choose a soda pop that is caffeine-free. All big soda makers offer products with either low or no caffeine.

That may be a good idea, though it raises the question of whether soda machines in schools should be permitted to offer caffeinated beverages or at least be obligated to offer a significant proportion of caffeine-free products.

It also raises the question of how one determines a product's caffeine content. Nutrition labels are not required to divulge that information. If a beverage contains caffeine, it must be included in the ingredient list, but there's no way to tell how much a beverage has, and there's little logic or predictability to the way caffeine is deployed throughout a product line.

Okay, so most enlightened consumers already know that colas contain a fair amount of caffeine. It turns out to be 35 to 38 milligrams per 12-ounce can, or roughly 28 percent of the amount found in an 8-ounce cup of coffee. But few know that diet colas -- usually chosen by those who are trying to dodge calories and/or sugar -- often pack a lot more caffeine.

A 12-ounce can of Diet Coke, for example, has about 42 milligrams of caffeine -- seven more than the same amount of Coke Classic. A can of Pepsi One has about 56 milligrams of caffeine -- 18 milligrams more than both regular Pepsi and Diet Pepsi.

Even harder to figure out is the caffeine distribution in other flavors of soda pop. Many brands of root beer contain no caffeine. An exception is Barq's, made by the Coca-Cola Co., which has has 23 milligrams per 12-ounce can. Sprite, 7-Up and ginger ale are caffeine-free. But Mountain Dew, the curiously named Mello Yellow, Sun Drop Regular, Jolt and diet as well as regular Sunkist orange soda all pack caffeine.

Caffeine occurs naturally in kola nuts, an ingredient of cola soft drinks. But why is this drug, which is known to create physical dependence, added to other soft drinks?

The industry line is that small amounts are added for taste, not for the drug's power to sustain demand for the products that contain it. Caffeine's bitter taste, they say, enhances other flavors. "It has been a part of almost every cola -- and pepper-type beverage -- since they were first formulated more than 100 years ago," according to the National Soft Drink Association.

But recent blind taste tests conducted by Roland Griffiths at Johns Hopkins Medical Institutions in Baltimore found that only 8 percent of regular soft drink consumers could identify the difference between regular and caffeine-free soft drinks.

The study included only subjects who reported that they drank soft drinks mainly for their caffeine content. In other words, more than 90 percent of the self-diagnosed caffeine cravers in this small sample could not detect the presence of caffeine.

That's why the great popularity of caffeinated soft drinks is driven not so much by subtle taste effects as by the mood-altering and physical dependence of caffeine that drives the daily self-administration.

And the unknown could be especially troublesome for the developing brains of children and adolescents. Logic dictates that when you are dependent on a drug, you are really upsetting the normal balances of neurochemistry in the brain. The fact that kids have withdrawal signs and symptoms when the caffeine is stopped is a good indication that something has been profoundly disturbed in the brain.

Exactly where that leads is anybody's guess -- which is to say there is little good research on the effects of caffeine on kids' developing brains.

Bone Weakening

Animal studies demonstrate that phosphorus, a common ingredient in soda, can deplete bones of calcium.

And two recent human studies suggest that girls who drink more soda are more prone to broken bones. The industry denies that soda plays a role in bone weakening.

Animal studies -- mostly involving rats -- point to clear and consistent bone loss with the use of cola beverages. But as scientists like to point out, humans and rats are not exactly the same.

Even so, there's been concern among the research community, public health officials and government agencies over the high phosphorus content in the US diet. Phosphorus -- which occurs naturally in some foods and is used as an additive in many others -- appears to weaken bones by promoting the loss of calcium. With less calcium available, the bones become more porous and prone to fracture.

The soft drink industry argues that the phosphoric acid in soda pop contributes only about 2 percent of the phosphorus in the typical US diet, with a 12-ounce can of soda pop averaging about 30 milligrams.

There's growing concern that even a few cans of soda today can be damaging when they are consumed during the peak bone-building years of childhood and adolescence. A 1996 study published in the Journal of Nutrition by the FDA's Office of Special Nutritionals noted that a pattern of high phosphorus/low calcium consumption, common in the American diet, is not conducive to optimizing peak bone mass in young women.

A 1994 Harvard study of bone fractures in teenage athletes found a strong association between cola beverage consumption and bone fractures in 14-year-old girls. The girls who drank cola were about five times more likely to suffer bone fractures than girls who didn't consume soda pop.

Besides, to many researchers, the combination of rising obesity and bone weakening has the potential to synergistically undermine future health. Adolescents and kids don't think long-term. But what happens when these soft-drinking people become young or middle-aged adults and they have osteoporosis, sedentary living and obesity?

By that time, switching to water, milk or fruit juice may be too little, too late.

Washington Post February 27, 2001; Page HE10

kwchang
09-01-2006, 05:22 PM
...I think you are in violation of rule 4b in this forum but it is the MOD that decides....
Rule 4b specifically says "No chain letters. Any material that request the reader to post it to multiple recipients will be deemed a chain letter."

I don't think there is a statement to request people to forward the article to all their friends within the next 2 hours or something of that nature. So he escapes the banana?

However, I do agree with Sunwaykid that everyone should verify the facts before posting anything on the web. This Forum not excluded.

Hence a WARNING to Life Ranger
Unless you can provide a legitimate hyperlink to an authoritative website, or make reference to a publication, one should NOT post anything received thru the email or SMS on this Forum.

Please REMEMBER that if it came through the Internet it NEED NOT be true !

orchipalar
09-01-2006, 05:37 PM
Err...dear Chang:)...but LifeRanger could be seen as spamming the forum with too much of his health warning materials....perhaps ya could try to direct him to the health forum...instead of posting them into the main webforum... :)

SunwayKid
09-01-2006, 05:47 PM
Rule 4b specifically says "No chain letters. Any material that request the reader to post it to multiple recipients will be deemed a chain letter."


My misinterpretation - I thought "No chain letters" means anything that was circulated as a chain mail is not allowed to be posted and the next sentence, any material that request.......is just an example of a chain letter. Considering the number of forumers who read this thread, I would consider the initial post as spam.

Anyhow, it doesn't matter. I believe Life Ranger intentions are good and he just need to be aware of the repercussions of posting everything he received through the e-mail. I don't work for F&N, nor Permanis. :)

AllUrban
09-01-2006, 06:18 PM
Ur, Life Ranger, don't take this the wrong way, but if you keep on starting posts like these, the only thing that I can eat in the future will be bread and water.

Be careful when you toast that bread, since the rapid heating of carbohydrates can cause them to develop into compounds called acrylamides, which are cancer causing...

of course, the real fear isnt really your toast, it is your french fries...and then there is the pisang goreng...

Actually, I dont know all the facts, and I like my Coca Cola...just have to realize that it isnt the only choice for a beverage.

Consider how much luckier you are in Malaysia, with so many varieties of juices, teas, and drinks, available in cans and ready made...in North Am we really are limited to Carbonated and Caffinated for most of our choices :eek:

Of course, the sugar content in Malaysian beverages are a whole other issue :)

AllUrban
09-01-2006, 06:21 PM
Most of it has been proven to be urban legend and was actually shown on TV some time back. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coca-Cola.

Another good source for examining urban legends is the website www.snopes.com

And that internet reminder is as true today as it always will be...another thing to teach the internet generation...suspicion and healthy skepticism :)

Regards, M

GreenBug
12-01-2006, 05:12 PM
Hence a WARNING to Life Ranger
Unless you can provide a legitimate hyperlink to an authoritative website, or make reference to a publication, one should NOT post anything received thru the email or SMS on this Forum.

Please REMEMBER that if it came through the Internet it NEED NOT be true !Don't throw him a banana, throw him a 4 litre glass Coke bottle, don't have just PM me.... got plenty! :D