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Jose Mourinho
07-01-2006, 12:16 PM
The Sun's Financial Section (6.1.2006) has this to report "Chris Andrews, who caused a stir after reports that he was paid RM7525 a day has resigned from the national airline..... Deputy Transport Minister, Tengku Azlan Sultan Abu Bakar was reported to have said that Andrews' pay was 'no different' from other MAS senior managers". I believe Sin Chew Jit Poh also carries this report.

I wonder what an employee can possibly do (even if the company is making millions) in a day to justify a pay of RM7525. That is a cool RM0.25 million a month. Excluding perks and other benefits. Perhaps I am misguided. Perhaps such salary structures do exist. By the way, how many personnel are classified as 'senior managers' in MAS? I thought I read somewhere that the first thing that came to mind was to retrench the front-liners and lowly paid staff when the airline was making losses. So poor Ah Beng or Samy who earns RM35 a day will be retrenched. Fascinating.

Teeque
07-01-2006, 04:36 PM
Aisay Jose...ur superstar players also earn so much wat. perhaps more also. mebbe u ask them wat they do with this kinda obscenely earned $$$. haha. just kidding.... :D

ameer shah
07-01-2006, 05:29 PM
malaysia boleh..........................

malaysian needs guilo to bull **** them every now and then...........happended before independence, why not now........

that's the price to pay to hear bull****s from guilo...... :D

leewinnie46
07-01-2006, 06:08 PM
i always think that those with highly income group are those who is capable to gain high profit for the company, but it end with good politician .

how can malaysia boleh when we the citizen are wasting our time in banking, immigration office or government office

guilo or whatever, don't we over estimate others n forgot about some knowledgable ppl in malaysia n this is not the first time woh

Jose Mourinho
07-01-2006, 06:16 PM
Aisay Jose...ur superstar players also earn so much wat. perhaps more also. mebbe u ask them wat they do with this kinda obscenely earned $$$. haha. just kidding.... :D

Actually you are right, you know. Frank Lampard is paid 90,000 sterling pounds a week or about RM79,714 a day and that is really obscene by any standards. But then Lamps told me that David Beckham is being paid 120,000 sterling pounds a week or about RM106,285 a day. Ya. You have convinced me that the senior managers in MAS are grossly underpaid. We really must raise their salaries if we expect them to work hard and perform.

:D

isarahim
07-01-2006, 06:45 PM
You have convinced me that the senior managers in MAS are grossly underpaid. We really must raise their salaries if we expect them to work hard and perform.

MAS has to make it to the premier league first. Currently they're playing in the lower region (and close to the demotation line) of the Outlandish Banana 5th Division.

SS19flyover
07-01-2006, 07:22 PM
MAS has to make it to the premier league first. Currently they're playing in the lower region (and close to the demotation line) of the Outlandish Banana 5th Division.
you remark hit a jack pot, blardy hole in one of the century.

layman
07-01-2006, 09:50 PM
now that this superstar consultant has left for his/her own turf in australia?

how much do u think will be his pay cheque for advising qantas or virgin blue?

or perhaps would he be able to be make the grade to the league of super-consultant in the west ???

70000us$ per month is a lot of monet anywhere in the world

kwchang
07-01-2006, 11:05 PM
I think you people missed one pertinant statement in Murinho's post -


..... Deputy Transport Minister, Tengku Azlan Sultan Abu Bakar was reported to have said that Andrews' pay was 'no different' from other MAS senior managers". ...

Can you believe that the other Malaysian airlines' senior management are paid this ridiculous amount? OK, the consultant has been packed off. What about the gold-bricking senior management? Are they still bleeding the company?

Jose Mourinho
08-01-2006, 08:47 AM
I think you people missed one pertinant statement in Murinho's post - Can you believe that the other Malaysian airlines' senior management are paid this ridiculous amount? OK, the consultant has been packed off. What about the gold-bricking senior management? Are they still bleeding the company?

Thank you, Chang. That was precisely what I was driving at. Aiseh.... Please get my name right la.

:o

donkey
08-01-2006, 10:13 PM
I think all the existing "old birds" should make their way out lar....or cutting their salary by a quater in bid to show their passion for their company.
Or maybe change a new boss.....get Tony Fernandes in. He'll know how to do the job...kekeke





Success is a journey...not a destination.

Jose Mourinho
09-01-2006, 12:12 PM
I know this may be 'old' news but still forms quite an interesting read for those who are interested: http://www.mggpillai.com/sections.php3?op=viewarticle&artid=12926

mybill
09-01-2006, 01:47 PM
I think all the existing "old birds" should make their way out lar....or cutting their salary by a quater in bid to show their passion for their company.
Or maybe change a new boss.....get Tony Fernandes in. He'll know how to do the job...kekeke

Not a bad idea, let merge these two airlines and let Tony and his team drive the companies.

But, unless we overthrown the BN govt. If not, not a fat change someone other than "the previleage one" can sit on top of the airline.

aloy105
09-01-2006, 02:04 PM
maybe mas shd unload to airasia for RM1-00...n let tony come up with the billions..kekeke :D

uchangeng
09-01-2006, 02:54 PM
7525 sounds like a number my son would dial each time he wants a pizza. Ok joke aside.

At the rate MAS is lossing million by the day, having this superscale Mat Saleh high-flyer high profile consultant does not seen right.

The problem is, the MAS top man probably has this misguided view that Mat Saleh is better than our own Saleh. They probably knows little to none about running an airline and is eager or even desperate to get some foreign expert to run the company or to prop up the company's image as we were told.

When you have someone who has 0 confidence in running the company, what they do best is to spend millions to buy the expertise they need and than sit back in their million dollar office to enjoy the friut of their newly acquired expert. This is what I call "taw kay nombor 2" mentality!

How many more GLCs are run like this? take a good guess, look around. Bumi CEO., white men experts. And we go around town telling the whorld that we have local breed CEO who is capable, genieus and whatever they call him some rags to riches success story!

billy
09-01-2006, 04:49 PM
maybe mas shd unload to airasia for RM1-00...n let tony come up with the billions..kekeke :D

Tonny already did. Mahathir sold him an airline from HICOM for RM1.00 that he turn-around to become AA of what it is now today.

Second time around the MAS/AA might be the biggest and profitable in the world.

billy
09-01-2006, 04:53 PM
7525 sounds like a number my son would dial each time he wants a pizza. Ok joke aside.

At the rate MAS is lossing million by the day, having this superscale Mat Saleh high-flyer high profile consultant does not seen right.

The problem is, the MAS top man probably has this misguided view that Mat Saleh is better than our own Saleh. They probably knows little to none about running an airline and is eager or even desperate to get some foreign expert to run the company or to prop up the company's image as we were told.

When you have someone who has 0 confidence in running the company, what they do best is to spend millions to buy the expertise they need and than sit back in their million dollar office to enjoy the friut of their newly acquired expert. This is what I call "taw kay nombor 2" mentality!

How many more GLCs are run like this? take a good guess, look around. Bumi CEO., white men experts. And we go around town telling the whorld that we have local breed CEO who is capable, genieus and whatever they call him some rags to riches success story!

Amen to that. Right on the nail. Hit the bull's eye.

uchangeng
09-01-2006, 05:56 PM
The correct English version:

7525 (add another 25) sounds like a number my son would dial each time he wants a pizza. Ok., that is a joke.

Seriously though, at the rate the company is losing million by the day, having this superscale Mat Saleh high-flyer, high profile consultant is not seen right.

The problem is, the top man who is entrusted to run the airline probably has a severely misguided view about Mat Saleh expert whom he somehow think is better than our own Saleh. The man probably knows little to nothing about running an airline business and is desperate enough to spend millions to hire some foreign "expert" to run the company for him. Or as he put it, to prop up the image of MAS. as we were told. It was a rip-off!

In reality, when you have someone who has 0 confidence in running a multi-millions airline, but was given the job anyway based on birthright, the first thing he would do the moment he got the job was to spend more millions of someone else's money to buy the expertise he needed and than sat back in his ultra-modern million dollar office and enjoyed his "job". This is what I call "taw kay nombor 2" mentality!

How many more GLCs are run like that? look around you, take a good guess. Bumi CEO., white men experts. My Malay teacher told me it was akin to "Lembu punya susu, sapi punya nama". And we go around town telling the whorld that we have local breed CEO who is capable, even genieus and boast about our own version of rags to riches success story created out of the 35 years of NEP. Kampung boy punya politik la.......legend in his own mind.

layman
09-01-2006, 06:35 PM
the best and most profitable airlines are in asia(sing cathay thai eva)

without exceptions they are helmed by chinese or asians

what makes MAS think that HAVING a westerner will solve her woes?

twisted logic ???

orchipalar
09-01-2006, 09:15 PM
Err...if Orchi isn't mistaken...read or heard somewhere that the top person managing the SIA...was a Malaysian?

Should that be true...at the least we got one ex-malaysian that could manage one of the most successful n TOP international airlines in the wholewide world...ahem...n perhaps he could be the BEST person than anyone else in the wholewide world...to manage it...

or...he could be the ONLY capable person in the wholewide world to manage the SIA...

Err...is he being paid with the same amount per day at the SIA...or could it be more or less?

Ahem...now Orchi couldn't help but wonder...should he be offered double or even 10 fold of what he is making now in the SIA...to run MAS instead...would he accept the offer...n be capable of repeating the same to turn MAS around...n be equally successful like the SIA...?

DeeC
09-01-2006, 09:55 PM
hmmm...interesting topic.... Well, at least one of the 7525 leaving. Wonder how more are left. Wonder what happened to the previous MD. Everyone seems to have forgotten about him. Shouldn't he be made to answers or tell his side of the story?

Jose Mourinho
10-01-2006, 10:41 AM
Ahem...now Orchi couldn't help but wonder...should he be offered double or even 10 fold of what he is making now in the SIA...to run MAS instead...would he accept the offer...n be capable of repeating the same to turn MAS around...n be equally successful like the SIA...?

Orchipalar. The Top Man of SIA is (or was) a Malaysian. I cannot recall his name. However I have doubts whether he could repeat SIA's success with MAS unless he reports to one person only - his real and only boss in SIA during that time was Lee Kuan Yew - and reports to Abdullah Badawi. There is not a chance unless hell freezes over if he has to worry about stepping on toes of senators and backbenchers and every politicians who are suddenly experts in running international airlines!

donkey
10-01-2006, 04:20 PM
maybe mas shd unload to airasia for RM1-00...n let tony come up with the billions..kekeke :D


If they really off load MAS at RM1, i will camp outside the office to buy the share lor..... kekekeke

Jose Mourinho
10-01-2006, 05:44 PM
If they really off load MAS at RM1, i will camp outside the office to buy the share lor..... kekekeke

Offloading big corporations for RM1 or USD1 are realities. You also 'inherit' the borrowings and other liabilities of the corporations even though your payments would be structured over years. Unless you have some RM300 million to play around, I would not suggest you camp outside. Come to think of it, with RM300 million, why would you need MAS or any other corporations where you still need to work your a** off? Even with RM30 million, it generates an interest of RM100,000 a month from the banks and that is hell lot of money to spend, without even touching the principal sum. My calculator does not have the capacity to calculate interest based on RM300 million and thus would somebody please help out.

orchipalar
10-01-2006, 06:31 PM
Err...the malaysian born Dr. Cheong Choong Kong(he once lectured mathematics in University Malaya before)...took charge of SIA in 1984 for almost 20 years...until his successor Mr. Chew Choon Seng takes over as the CEO of SIA since 2003...

http://www.adelaide.edu.au/news/news65.html

http://www.ocbc.com.sg/global/aboutOCBC/Gco_Abt_Directors.html

http://www.apn.btbtravel.com/s/Editorial-People.asp?ReportID=47636&_Type=Editorial-People&_Title=Singapore-Airlines-Names-Chew-Choon-Seng-As-CEO-Designate

Err...how Orchi wonders...how much did both the gentlemen earn individually when they started to take charge for the SIA...?

Ahem...the current MAS senior managers whom are earning this sorta salary scale from MAS...RM7,525 per day...?

Can we call them as Towering Malaysians...?

IF so...how should we address the likes of Dr. Cheong...n thousands MORE of those other malaysians that had left this wonderful brains drained nation...to seek greener pastures else where...ever since the early 70s...? Towering ex. malaysians...? :rolleyes:

donkey
11-01-2006, 01:49 AM
Offloading big corporations for RM1 or USD1 are realities. You also 'inherit' the borrowings and other liabilities of the corporations even though your payments would be structured over years. Unless you have some RM300 million to play around, I would not suggest you camp outside. Come to think of it, with RM300 million, why would you need MAS or any other corporations where you still need to work your a** off? Even with RM30 million, it generates an interest of RM100,000 a month from the banks and that is hell lot of money to spend, without even touching the principal sum. My calculator does not have the capacity to calculate interest based on RM300 million and thus would somebody please help out.



Aiyoh! i bought from RM1, i sold off the s*** at RM10 lar, i can still make some money for myself...(poor people will think of every way to earn a ringgit) ..Err...btw if your calculator doesn't have enuf capacity, i can borrow you my fingers and toes......kekekekeke :D

Jose Mourinho
11-01-2006, 01:42 PM
Orchipalar. I don't know how much Dr Cheong Choong Kong or Chew Chung Seng get for taking charge of SIA. I know that Singapore pays its cabinet ministers well but I cannot see Old Man Lee Kuan Yew (and now his son) agreeing to pay SIN7527 a day.

layman
11-01-2006, 02:58 PM
Orchipalar. I don't know how much Dr Cheong Choong Kong or Chew Chung Seng get for taking charge of SIA. I know that Singapore pays its cabinet ministers well but I cannot see Old Man Lee Kuan Yew (and now his son) agreeing to pay SIN7527 a day.


well that sort of fees are only reserved for con-sultan in bolehland.

Teeque
12-01-2006, 03:20 AM
well that sort of fees are only reserved for con-sultan in bolehland.

And also to Jose and his merry band of superstar players... :D ;)

Jose Mourinho
12-01-2006, 11:01 AM
And also to Jose and his merry band of superstar players... :D ;)

Ya. But if MAS senior managers can do for the airline what my players and I have done for Chelsea, then they do deserve RM7525 a day!