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Dr. J George
07-01-2006, 11:38 AM
WHY DO SOME MEN SEXUALLY ABUSE THEIR MAIDS & DAUGHTERS?

On Thursday night, ‘a sting operation’ was organized by DIGP – Datuk Musa Hassan after I alerted him to a call I received from a 29 year of Indonesian lass working for a family in Pasir Putih, Perak.

Datuk Musa and the CPO of Perak both called me at night and informed me that the lass was rescued within an hour after I alerted them by police officers and presently receiving medical treatment, while the man (employer) a contractor and “religious leader” was arrested.

I am really thankful to them for this speedy action and sincerely say syabas!

The young lass hails from Dumai, Indonesia and has been working for this employer for the last 2 years she alleged.

Each night for the last 9 months after the wife is asleep the man of the house would creep into the maid’s room and force himself on her sexually while threatening her.

She alleged that he even forced himself during her menstrual cycle without hesitation!

After receiving the CASSA HOTLINE through a neighbor (she claims) she called me seeking help.

The cases of men sexually attacking their own maids and daughters, step-daughters continue to rise in Malaysia – many hidden away and cases like this one which has a happy ending is so rare, as I am told by friends in Bukit Aman, that many go unreported due to closure, fear and other reasons.

I am told that the police are everyready to assist and all they need is an initial report and alert!

Is there anyway we can help facilitate more disclosure and avenues for redress for this target group if we come against this kind of cases and why do man do these things?

weblog at http://www.drjacobgeorge.com/

silver_bird
07-01-2006, 01:00 PM
WHY DO SOME MEN SEXUALLY ABUSE THEIR MAIDS & DAUGHTERS?

Probable answer : Since they cannot afford to have "2, 3 or 4", some "Beast" tend to take the short cut approach. In this case, what has the Religious Leader learnt from his preaching!!!

Apprecaition & TQ to CASSA for taking up the case.

rabbiteeth84
07-01-2006, 07:44 PM
i think they are not human. we human , unlike animals, can control self , be it sexually or physically. for those man who sexually abuse their maids, they are immoral to the extend that they have no respect towards human dignity. and not to say their very own daughter, own flesh and blood! they should be condemned. i would love to get them skin alive. but watever physical punishment tehy get will not compensate the feelings they hurt.

and plsdun get me the bull**** that the maid/daug "invite" the them to do sp. it takes two fingers to snap. a true man will not let this evil thought get in his way. and also spare me the bull**** that the maid/daugh dress sexily, juz because you hav balls doesn't mean i can pull it off.

pcyeoh
08-01-2006, 01:15 AM
[COLOR=Blue]WHY DO SOME MEN SEXUALLY ABUSE THEIR MAIDS & DAUGHTERS?

On Thursday night, ‘a sting operation’ was organized by DIGP – Datuk Musa Hassan after I alerted him to a call I received from a 29 year of Indonesian lass working for a family in Pasir Putih, Perak.
DJG, why do you say that this is a ‘a sting operation.’

mykern
08-01-2006, 06:26 AM
The difference between malaysian girls and indonesian girls (I assume the maids are indonesian) is their mannerisms. Indo girls are not afraid to give u eye contact and this entices the man to be more bold. Likewise any man will be more confident of approaching a girl if she give u eye contact, wouldn't you?
Anyway, this happens to a rather very small proportion of men who really takes advantage of the situation. We all do in different way.
sabaidee

tempuadua
08-01-2006, 10:26 AM
Probable answer : Since they cannot afford to have "2, 3 or 4", some "Beast" tend to take the short cut approach. In this case, what has the Religious Leader learnt from his preaching!!!

Apprecaition & TQ to CASSA for taking up the case.
Only Muslim men have the "option" to take up 4 wives! Are you suggesting that all these "beasts" are Muslim men? And which Religious Leader are you talking about? As in previous discussion threads, you always add the religious and racial flavours in your comment without taking into consideration other people's sensitivities.
Perhaps somebody should compile a statistics to show the racial grouping of employers who committed crimes against their maids. so that people like silver_bird will be more careful in making statements in the future.

pcyeoh
08-01-2006, 12:35 PM
Only Muslim men have the "option" to take up 4 wives! Are you suggesting that all these "beasts" are Muslim men? And which Religious Leader are you talking about? As in previous discussion threads, you always add the religious and racial flavours in your comment without taking into consideration other people's sensitivities.
Perhaps somebody should compile a statistics to show the racial grouping of employers who committed crimes against their maids. so that people like silver_bird will be more careful in making statements in the future.

Though Silver bird's posting may sound racial, the statement he /she made didn't say exactly that so don't put words in his/her mouth. He didn't say 2,3 or 4 WIVES and Religious Leader is not equal to IMAM all the time. It is your perception. Silver bird in this posting also used the word 'most probable' so as not to make a sweeping statement and thus has acted politically correct.

I know where you are coming from when you posed your question which you have modified for reason known to you only to "the percentage of employers who committed crimes against their maids" when Dr Jacob George mentioned in his posting cases of men sexually attacking their own maids and daughters, step-daughters. Let us interprete statistic without emotion. It is a fact that majority of those who employed maids are non Malays. So even if the culprit is a Muslim, it is going to be a very small fraction. May be we should see the issue from this angle. What is the racial percentage of men in Malaysia who commit sexual crimes against women and children whom they have been entrusted? The statistics for this is available and I know you won't like the answer.

tempuadua
08-01-2006, 07:13 PM
Though Silver bird's posting may sound racial, the statement he /she made didn't say exactly that so don't put words in his/her mouth. He didn't say 2,3 or 4 WIVES and Religious Leader is not equal to IMAM all the time. It is your perception. Silver bird in this posting also used the word 'most probable' so as not to make a sweeping statement and thus has acted politically correct.

I know where you are coming from when you posed your question which you have modified for reason known to you only to "the percentage of employers who committed crimes against their maids" when Dr Jacob George mentioned in his posting cases of men sexually attacking their own maids and daughters, step-daughters. Let us interprete statistic without emotion. It is a fact that majority of those who employed maids are non Malays. So even if the culprit is a Muslim, it is going to be a very small fraction. May be we should see the issue from this angle. What is the racial percentage of men in Malaysia who commit sexual crimes against women and children whom they have been entrusted? The statistics for this is available and I know you won't like the answer.
PC, I noted and respect your comment. I am specifically referring to the sentence "Since they cannot afford to have "2, 3 or 4". This statement clearly refer to only a single group or race/religion in Malaysia. As for the Religious Leader, if it is not referring to Muslim Religious leader, which other religion or religious leader in Malaysia talk about man having more than 2 wives? It believe it is not MY only perception. I believe any person that belong to that racial/religious group would come to the same perception. May be silver_bird should further elaborate his/her statement above, so that we can share what she/he has in mind when she/he said "Since they cannot afford to have "2, 3 or 4".
And as for the statistic, i believe it is only your perception that I won't like the answer!

joker2107
09-01-2006, 12:06 AM
pcyeoh has a very good question but i doubt it wud mean anything save 2 emphasise d failure of an administration which has been so concretely acclaimed but socially stealthily massacre-ing by a program of protectionism.

does my other post speak something 4 this thread?
http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/upload/showpost.php?p=105887&postcount=69

leewinnie46
09-01-2006, 09:04 AM
aiyoh, this is not new in our society, sometimes back in Oct 2005, I went to Mid Valley and out of my suprise, I saw those indonesia lady wearing pregnant costume and nicely follow at the back of her "EMPLOYER" while taking care of another 3 kids. This become common when I went genting highland during Dec 2005, other than indonesia citizen coming all the way to genting highland for vacation (appear to be like a chinese but speak very fluent indon), many chinese and indon "stand" together with pregnant costume (at least 5 that I see).

from my understanding, as soon as we realise the maid is pregnant, the employer should sent the maid back to the agent immediately.

leewinnie46
09-01-2006, 09:14 AM
quite suprise that everytime I flip my chinese paper (oriental daily)

Men Sexually Abuse Their Maids & Daughters & Neighbours & Relatives .......

In regard to culture , race and many more, could that be too many porn picture, video clip and many medicine to boost the initial need ?

chin_wan
09-01-2006, 03:40 PM
The difference between malaysian girls and indonesian girls (I assume the maids are indonesian) is their mannerisms. Indo girls are not afraid to give u eye contact and this entices the man to be more bold. Likewise any man will be more confident of approaching a girl if she give u eye contact, wouldn't you?
Anyway, this happens to a rather very small proportion of men who really takes advantage of the situation. We all do in different way.
sabaidee

:confused: :confused: Are you blaming the victim for causing sexual assult to happen to them? I hope you are not cause I like confident women. I also like it when women make eye contact cause it is nice to know that someone notice you.

Anyway, back to the question asked: WHY DO SOME MEN SEXUALLY ABUSE THEIR MAIDS & DAUGHTERS?

I am afraid you won't find the answers no matter where you look. However, if you do some research on sexual abuse/rape, most of the time it is about power and not sex. As such, if you want to address this problem you have to look at a different angle, i.e. from an angle of how certain "power" affect the human behaviour.

For example, I read in The Star newspaper (could not find the article on thestar.com.my cause it was archived but found the same article on Pustaka USM (http://www.pustaka.usm.my/docushare/dsweb/GetRendition/Document-10671/html)) many moons ago about a prison inmate who is a rape convict who raped his own daughter. In his interview with the reported, he said that he did it because his daughter is a rebel and would not listen to him. He said that she would go out party till late at night and would drink/smoke, all of which he prohibited. He then went on to say that he wanted to "educate" her.

The example above does give us some hint that rape is not sexual but rather it is about power.

pcyeoh
09-01-2006, 04:08 PM
:confused: :confused:
WHY DO SOME MEN SEXUALLY ABUSE THEIR MAIDS & DAUGHTERS?

For example, I read in The Star newspaper (could not find the article on thestar.com.my cause it was archived but found the same article on Pustaka USM (http://www.pustaka.usm.my/docushare/dsweb/GetRendition/Document-10671/html)) many moons ago about a prison inmate who is a rape convict who raped his own daughter. In his interview with the reported, he said that he did it because his daughter is a rebel and would not listen to him. He said that she would go out party till late at night and would drink/smoke, all of which he prohibited. He then went on to say that he wanted to "educate" her.

The example above does give us some hint that rape is not sexual but rather it is about power.

Based on one person's testimony, are you saying that rape is not sexual but rather it is about power??? In order not to put words in your mouth, in other words those who got rape were not penetrated with the male sexual organ and all those in power are only capable of raping. I am equally confused.

kwchang
09-01-2006, 04:37 PM
PC, you don't have to be so graphic (hungry for banana?)
The point made about power is valid.
Remember how they tried to traumatise the minority population in Indonesia after Suharto's downfall?

rabbiteeth84
09-01-2006, 07:29 PM
i think is those small characters in need of power that that will rape others. they enjoy the moment they conquer the victim, but then due to the fact that those small characters are chicken, they tend sto look for those target that fall easily to their prey. i read somewhere that sexual predators looks for those timid and conservative plus full-proper clothes girl. they won't dare to try those seemingly open-minded girl (i.e. sexily dress)

mykern
10-01-2006, 09:59 AM
I read somewhere that the victims are 50% or more of the time are known to the perpetrator .. and less than 15% are random acts ...random meaning any human female will be targetted.
So, if you wanna rape, you will.. but those serial rapist derive pleasure (and power) from these activities .. just like you derive pleasure from drinking or smoking etc.. except that this (the rape) is a crime and drinking and smoking per se are not ..
Answering chin_wan .. .. about my first comment .. women are not to be overly confident over here as this is a western trait.
But I am open to 'violent' obections from our female bloggers. :D

chin_wan
10-01-2006, 04:33 PM
Based on one person's testimony, are you saying that rape is not sexual but rather it is about power??? In order not to put words in your mouth, in other words those who got rape were not penetrated with the male sexual organ and all those in power are only capable of raping. I am equally confused.

Sex is just the weapon used.