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Life Ranger
05-01-2006, 04:39 PM
Soy May Cause Cancer and Brain Damage

Two senior US government scientists, Drs. Daniel Doerge and Daniel Sheehan, have revealed that chemicals in soy could increase the risk of breast cancer in women, brain damage in both men and women, and abnormalities in infants.

The scientists decided to oppose FDA's decision last year to approve a health claim that soy reduced the risk of heart disease.

They wrote an internal protest letter warning of 28 studies revealing toxic effects of soy, mostly focusing on chemicals in soy known as isoflavones, which have effects similar to the female hormone estrogen.

They claim that research has shown a clear link between soy and the potential for adverse effects in humans.

Soy may lead to health problems in animals including altering sexual development of fetuses and causing thyroid disorders.

Some studies show that chemicals in soy may increase the chances of estrogen-dependent breast cancer.

'There is abundant evidence that some of the isoflavones found in soy demonstrate toxicity in estrogen sensitive tissues and in the thyroid.'

'During pregnancy in humans, isoflavones per se could be a risk factor for abnormal brain and reproductive tract development.'
According to one of the scientists, parents who give their children soy milk or formulas "are exposing their children to chemicals which we know have adverse effects in animals. It's like doing a large uncontrolled and unmonitored experiment on infants.'

Newest Research On Why You Should Avoid Soy : http://www.mercola.com/article/soy/avoid_soy.htm
Soy History : http://www.soyonlineservice.co.nz/01history.htm

USJ27Resident
05-01-2006, 04:43 PM
Did this come from a Palm Oil lobby group or what?

If not, then all this while we all kena conned big time by the soy oil industries saying that palm oil is bad huh?

Anyway... if it is true, then - better start buying stocks connected to Palm oil counters... :p

AllUrban
05-01-2006, 04:56 PM
Secret to stock market success, buy a little of everything.....

Palm oil, soybeans, crude oil, anything and everything :)

Life Ranger
05-01-2006, 05:16 PM
I used to consider soya drink/food as healthy one until I read the following email which provoked me to dig out the information in the starter thread...

My conclusion so far is :

1) Do not take soy food in excess, especially refering to somebody who goes on diet by replacing their meal with soy drink.

2) Do not make provision of soy product to infant.

3) For thousands of years soy has been taken as sauces after fermentation
where toxins have been removed in the process. It was never in-taken the way it is processed today.

What do you say ?

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From: "accounts"
To: <Undisclosed-Recipient:;>
Subject: Fw: What SOYA does to women body!!! **VIRUS FREE**
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 17:23:57 +0800



TAKE CARE!
Pls pass this info to your female and male friends... Something to take note of.
This is my true story, nothing altered.

I am relating them to warn other young health-conscious women who are
unwittingly harming themselves.

In 1989, I graduated from high school in Texas and couldn't wait to hit
the big College City. One of the changes I wanted to make was to eat
healthier.

Once I moved to health-conscious Austin, Texas, I began to fortify my body
with the best and healthiest foods I could find.

Tofu was the main ingredient in every healthy dish and I bought soya milk
almost every day. I used it for everything from cereal to smoothies or
just to drink for a quick snack. I bought soya muffins, miso soup with
tofu, soyabeans, soyabean sprouts, etc.

All the literature in all the health and fitness magazines said that soya
protected you against everything from heart disease to breast cancer.

It was the magical isoflavones, the estrogen-like hormones that all worked
to help you stay young and healthy. I looked great, I was working out all
the time, but my menstrual cycle was off.

At 20, I started taking birth control pills to regulate my menstrual
cycle. In addition to this I began to suffer from painful periods. I began
to get puffy; it was as though I was losing my muscle tone. I began to
suffer from depression and getting hot flashes. I mistook all this for PMS
since my periods were irregular. By the time I was 25, my periods were so
bad I couldn't walk.

The birth control pills never made them regular or less painful so I
decided to stop taking them. I went on like this for another two years until I
realized my pain wasn't normal.

At 27, my gynecologist found two cysts in my uterus. Both were the size of
tennis balls. I went through surgery to have them removed and thank
God they were benign. The gynecologist told me to go back on birth control
pills. I didn't.

In 1998, he discovered a lump in my breast. Again, I went through surgery
and again it was benign.

In November 2000 my glands swelled up and my gums became inflamed.
Thinking I had a tooth infection i went to the dentist who told me that
teeth were not the problem. After a dose of antibiotics the swelling still
did not go down.

At this point I could feel a tiny nodule on the right side of my neck told
my mother I had thyroid trouble. She thinks I was being silly.

No one in the family suffered from thyroid trouble. Going on a hunch I saw
a specialist who diagnosed me with Papillary Thyroid Carcinom! a. After a
series of tests he told me it was cancer. My fiance and I sat stunned. We
were not prepared and I was so scared. We scheduled surgery right
away.

The specialist told us that it would only be after the operation that a
pathologist would be able to tell us for sure if it was cancer. They found
a tumor at my right lobe composed of irregular cells and another
smaller tumor growing on the left, so the entire thyroid was removed.

They told me that after undergoing radioactive iodine I would be safe and
assured me that I could live a long life. After treatment I began to
search for the cause of all these problems. I never once thought It could
be the entire soya I had consumed for nearly ten years.

After all, soya Is healthy.

I came upon a web page that linked thyroid problems to soya intake and the
conspiracy of soya marketed as a health food when in fact it is only a
toxic by-product of the vegetable oil industry. This was insane; after
all, the health and fitness magazines had said nothing about soya being harmful.

I visited a herbalist who was diagnosed with thyroid cancer in 1985. She
Informed me that soya was the culprit. She had a hysterectomy due
to cysts and other uterine problems. A few months later another quaintance
who had consumed soya came down with thyroid cancer. A girl in England I
met through the Internet in a thyroid cancer forum had just undergone
surgery and she was only 19.

What was going on?

Breast cancer is linked to estrogen. What mimics estrogen in the female
body, SOYA!

But I never suspected soya because until how I never once found a
single article that stated soya could be dangerous. Women who took soya
prior to thyroid problems will continue to take it after if they are not
aware of what soya actually does, what it contains and how it reacts in
the female body. I think this is the reason that women with thyroid cancer
often develop breast cancer later.

My co-worker is big into soya and I see her losing hair and gaining
weight despite a walking workout during her break and after work, and
apples and oranges for lunch. She just had cysts removed from her uterus
too.

I warn her to stay off soya. I refer her to websites but evening news on
All four networks, women will suffer. Since the thyroidectomy! I do not
touch soya, for two years.

Dear readers, please use my story in any way you can. There are so
many young girls who are consuming soya because they think they are
taking care of themselves, and women taking soya because they want to be
healthy. It is so unfair that the information about the dangers of soya
isn't more widely circulated. It is sad. There are many out there who
feel this way and it is a terrible blow when you realize you are not as
healthy as you thought and that the information that you depended on was wrong

La Vida Loca
05-01-2006, 06:20 PM
Read what snopes/urban legend has to say (http://www.snopes.com/medical/toxins/soya.asp)

After reading that email sometime in 2003, i reduce my soy intake substantially, not that i was obsessed in taking it in the first place but now generally with whatever food consumption, keep it minimal, don't eat too much of anything. I think most would agree. The occasional tau foo fa and soya ice blend should be ok.

But what disgust me the most is those "soya champions" out there, those walking and talking soya spokesperson. With them, you can't go wrong with soya - "don't drink so much milk, milk is bad for you (hello!!! since when??), carrot juice gives you yellowish skin (beta carotene heard of that!!!)".

kwchang
05-01-2006, 11:53 PM
My suggestion is to take all these messages with a pinch of salt. Check it out with Urban Legends' websites and see if these stories are debunked.

One thing came to mind - in Indonesia, tempe is a very common food. That is made from soya beans. I believe China also consume a lot of toufu. Japan and its soya-based soups and all forms of toufu. Vegetarians (the Chinese ones) have a lot of toufu based dishes. So if soya is so dangerous, why hasn't it been noticed as a contributor to cancer before?

What you are reading are stories from the USA. It is not normal for them to eat soy products. In the US, they feed soya beans to livestock to fatten them before slaughter. Are the Americans, with a different diet from the East, more sensitive to soya beans and its by-products?

Life Ranger
06-01-2006, 10:52 AM
This is the latest message I received, in CCTV mandarin version, it says the Israeli health ministry has warned that soy food should not be taken in excess and feeded to infant http://www.cctv.com/health/20050816/100772.shtml

orchipalar
06-01-2006, 12:11 PM
This is the latest message I received, in CCTV mandarin version, it says the Israeli health ministry has warned that soy food should not be taken in excess and feeded to infant http://www.cctv.com/health/20050816/100772.shtmlErr...for your additional infos...China is the forth largest grower n producer of soya beans...n it could be aiming to become the largest soon...

So please check n draw your own conclusion... (http://www.annieappleseedproject.org/32foodprodin.html)

Life Ranger
06-01-2006, 02:49 PM
Err...for your additional infos...China is the forth largest grower n producer of soya beans...n it could be aiming to become the largest soon...

So please check n draw your own conclusion... (http://www.annieappleseedproject.org/32foodprodin.html)

indeed, another issue here is the GMO thing....

isarahim
06-01-2006, 03:41 PM
I think the US is the last country in the world we should listen to in health matters. Their information is entirely dependent on whichever pressure group is strongest at that particular point in time, and the pressure groups are driven by various commercial interests. Still they have the worst health statistics in the world.

With regards to the GMO debate, I have followed it with high interest for several years. There does not seem to be any major issues as long as there are basic quality control mechanims just like with any type of food.

It seems the only health concern is that some GMO patent lawyers are getting increasingly stressed up and stroke prone....