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pcyeoh
16-12-2005, 09:45 AM
This is the yesterday Special Report extracted from Malaysiakini

Naked video clip: Who actually got it wrong?
Dec 15, 05 8:13pm

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The media have been collectively blamed for reporting that the woman detainee who was forced to strip naked and performed ear squats at a police station was a Chinese national.

The mistake has caused a flap in the ties between Malaysia and China. However, in the wake of the revelation that the detainee was a Malay Malaysian, many Umno politicians have been baying for blood, putting some top editors on the defensive.

But which media organisations misled the public?

A quick survey of local dailies on Nov 25, the day after member of Parliament Teresa Kok exposed the 71-second clip showing the woman detainee in nude doing ear squats in front of a police woman, revealed that the news had made it into all their front-pages.

Their reports showed that most local newspapers had jumped to the conclusion that the woman detainee was a Chinese national or “believed to be” a Chinese national.

In its lead, Umno-linked New Straits Times says a “female Chinese national” was depicted in the video being stripped and mistreated by the police.

Rival English-language newspaper, the MCA-owned the Star, says “a Chinese-looking” naked woman was shown doing ear squats, also in its lead paragraph.

Similar spin

Meanwhile, the headlines of Malay-language daily Utusan Malaysia, which is owned by Umno, screamed ‘Rakaman video wanita rakyat China bogel hangatkan Parlimen’ (Video recording of naked female Chinese national rocks Parliament).

Another Malay daily, Berita Harian, which is indirectly linked to Umno, mentioned that the woman was believed to be from China in its first paragraph.

Most Chinese-language newspapers also produced similar spin in their coverage of the scandal.

While MCA-owned Nanyang Siang Pau did not mention that the woman was a Chinese national in its headlines and lead paragraph, it nevertheless said that the detainee was a Chinese later in the report.

China Press, another MCA-owned daily, also did not highlight the nationality of the woman in its lead, but mentioned that the clip had created suspicion that it was linked to the four Chinese nationals who had earlier complained about being strip searched by the police.

Top selling Chinese-language newspaper Sin Chew Daily, owned by Sarawak’s timber tycoon Tiong Hiew King, reported in its frontpage headlines that the woman was believed to be a Chinese national.

The only exception are free newspaper The Sun and independent online daily malaysiakini. Both their reports made no mention of either the ethnicity or nationality of the detained woman.

The following are the headlines and lead paragraphs of the newspaper reports on Nov 25, obtained from their respective websites:


New Straits Times - Lockup outrage
A video clip purportedly showing a female Chinese national being stripped and mistreated by police had MPs all abuzz at the lobby of Parliament House this afternoon.


The Star - Nude woman ordered to ear squat
A controversial video footage showing a woman in uniform instructing a Chinese-looking naked woman to do ear squats caused an uproar after it was made public yesterday.


The Sun - Caught in the act
A 71-second video clip shown to two government ministers and several members of Parliament left them speechless and stunned. [The Sun did not mention the ethnicity and nationality of the woman.]


Malaysiakini - Naked woman police abuse clip sparks uproar
A one-minute mobile phone video clip showing a woman being forced to strip naked and do ear squats in a police station has sparked an outroar with both the government and opposition calling for the police to be taken to task.

[Malaysiakini did not mention the ethnicity and nationality of the woman. This report appeared on Nov 24, one day earlier than the other newspapers.]


Utusan Malaysia - Rakaman video wanita rakyat China bogel hangatkan Parlimen
Lobi Parlimen hari ini dihangatkan dengan tayangan rakaman video seorang wanita dipercayai rakyat China yang bogel dan diarahkan membuat ketuk-ketampi oleh anggota polis wanita.


Berita Harian - Gempar VCD tahanan dibogel
Belum pun reda kontroversi membabitkan pelancong China dikasari pihak berkuasa, kini tersebar klip video seorang wanita dipercayai rakyat negara itu yang dipaksa berbogel dan melakukan `ketuk ketampi' ketika dalam tahanan polis.


Sin Chew Daily - Suspected Chinese national humiliated, handphone video widely circulated
After the attention generated from the case of the three Chinese nationals, there is now a handphone MMS video clip showing what is believed to be a Chinese national being asked by a policewoman to strip and do ear squats in a room which appeared to be a lock-up.


Nanyang Siang Pau - Video of police humiliating woman detainee shown in Parliament
A video clip showing a policewoman humiliating a woman detainee stirred outrage in Parliament today, with parliamentarians and ministers hotly discussing the issue.

[In the report, Nanyang Siang Pau says that the woman was a Chinese.]


China Press - Naked video submitted to PM, DPM
A MMS video clip showing a woman detainee, suspected of being asked by a policewoman to stripped and punished in a lock-up, has caught the attention of cabinet minister.

[China Press did not mention the ethnicity and nationality of the woman. However, it mentioned that the video created suspicion it was linked to the four Chinese nationals who had earlier complained about being strip searched.]

alexhay
16-12-2005, 11:22 AM
by now we should know how our press works...just see someone is fair, they assume is a chinese.....why they cant say is a malaysian chinese or a singaporean chinese or etc...as usual the press always assume things

pucman
16-12-2005, 11:39 AM
by now we should know how our press works...just see someone is fair, they assume is a chinese.....why they cant say is a malaysian chinese or a singaporean chinese or etc...as usual the press always assume things

It is not just the skin color alone. There are many other factors that can determine. Have you seen the face version ?

hudson chia
16-12-2005, 11:40 AM
P.C. Yeoh, The whole episode is inter related. First, we hear the complaints by the four china girls who claimed and alleged that they are abused, then the video clip surfaced. That is why MP Teresa KoK is trying to send the message to the parliment's attention. Meaning if it can happened as shown, the claims by the four chinagirls carry weight. The press sensationalized the video clip and everybody including the public draws to the conclusion that the video clip girl is from china.

The police did mentioned that it is a tradition to check a suspect. Then, the deputy minister made a blunder by saying a statement on the behalf of the government and was reprimanded by Pak Lah. Next was why the identity of the girl in video not disclosed? Some says it is may affect the by election, others cry foul over racial and religious overtones.

In the end the Inqury team reveal the identity. The question here is not the race or religion but someone manage to film what is going on in the police station, when it is not supposed to. So now that it is over, let them do their job , believe me think if you are on the police side it is not easy. Like Mahathir once implied " it is not our culture to resign or sack our minister" but Anwar was removed . So semuanya o.k. and lets wait for the next topic if there is. It has been an interesting forum feedback.

tan_r
16-12-2005, 11:49 AM
IMO, Teresa Kok did the right thing. The press sensationalised it - good news doesn't sell! And the public bought the stories and jumped to conclusion. Sadly, the image of a Chinese is already formed in the minds of many and they still expect no other than a Chinese to be identified. Otherwise, it is a cover up! Even after a positive identification has been publicly made.

uchangeng
16-12-2005, 01:07 PM
prejudice, racist view and norrow mindedness are what we Malaysians made of. Malu la.... when can we don't talk race and focus on real issue? the cow is not going to come home anytime soon.

Even the would be Malaysian astronaut, down in us, many a goood guess tells us that the non-bumi would stand little to zero chance to be given the opportunity. At the end of the day, the UMNO politikus would want to rise to the occasion, kriss welding and shouting "Our boy in space! maruah bangsa dan agama terbela!"

that's all. just for that one breath of pride, of communal glory! who care if the benefit of the entire multi-million dollar space program remains a mystery to 99.999% of the Rakyat?

orchipalar
16-12-2005, 01:22 PM
IMO, Teresa Kok did the right thing. The press sensationalised it - good news doesn't sell! And the public bought the stories and jumped to conclusion. Sadly, the image of a Chinese is already formed in the minds of many and they still expect no other than a Chinese to be identified. Otherwise, it is a cover up! Even after a positive identification has been publicly made.Err...when was it first revealed that the woman is a Malay? n when was it made known to the commission that she is a Malay? Has anybody else other than those n few police personnels...seen her to be a Malay?

Ahem...the current reports say among others...that she has gained weight...has a fair complexion...straight hair(cut short a little)...a similar hairband...similar eyes n nose featured...n a round face...err...what else?

Err...she has a name n an identity...does it match the actual police records...?

The she...must have been finger printed by the police records...did anyone else seen the match of her finger prints?

Err...should they really wanna do it bad enough...there are 1000 females out there walking in the streets...that could match close to those descriptions...

orchipalar
16-12-2005, 02:10 PM
NUDE SQUAT FALLOUT
Senior officer transferred from PJ police station
Devinder Singh

PETALING JAYA, Dec 15:
Nobody is saying anything, and officially it is a routine transfer. But the man who headed the investigations into the nude squat case and alleged mistreatment of four Chinese nationals has been transferred from the Petaling Jaya police station.

Deputy Superintendent Abdul Aziz Abdul Majid (picture below) has been assigned administrative duties at Kajang police headquarters. He will begin work there tomorrow.

http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Friday/Frontpage/20051216075555/Article/indexb_html

Err...when the incident of nude earsquat video was first highlighted in the parliament by MP Teressa Kok...among the initial denials...he was the one who said that...the incident could NOT have happen in his Police precinct... :rolleyes:

tan_r
16-12-2005, 02:21 PM
Err...when was it first revealed that the woman is a Malay? ...
Exactly my POV! You know ... anything that is repeated over and over and over again becomes accepted as true even if it isn't.

tan_r
16-12-2005, 02:25 PM
NUDE SQUAT FALLOUT
Senior officer transferred from PJ police station
Devinder Singh
Fren, this one not relevant in this thread lah. You want to get banana-ed ah?

orchipalar
16-12-2005, 02:43 PM
Fren, this one not relevant in this thread lah. You want to get banana-ed ah?Err...on the contrary...the title says..."...who actually got it wrong?"

orchipalar
17-12-2005, 10:36 AM
NUDE SQUAT INQUIRY: Findings on Jan 15

KUALA LUMPUR, Fri
On Jan 15, Malaysians will know whether the controversial nude squat regime will remain part of the police strip-and- search procedure.

Tun Mohamed Dzaiddin Abdullah said the Commission of Inquiry would present its findings and recommendations on that day.

But it is clear from the evidence presented during the inquiry that some burning questions may never be answered. Among them:

* The identity of the person who filmed the Malay woman doing squats in the nude at the Petaling Jaya police station lock-up.

* The identity and motive of the policeman who gave a memory card to a mobile phone technician and asked him to transfer it to a laptop. This happened during the fasting month (October) — three months after a video clip of the woman was taken at Petaling Jaya police station.

http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Saturday/Frontpage/20051217081247/Article/indexb_html

Err...evidences were presented in various manners to the Commission of Inquiry...n it still give rise to many HOT questions...unanswered yet...

silver_bird
17-12-2005, 12:02 PM
Senators call for an apology from Kok

FOR the second day running, members of the Upper House have called for action against Seputeh MP Teresa Kok over the nude squats video clip controversy, saying her action had tarnished the image of the country.

The senators said Kok should apologise to all Malaysians in Parliament.

They said the DAP MP, together with Opposition leader Lim Kit Siang, had an ulterior motive in making public the video clip which showed a woman in police custody doing nude squats.

Many senators stood up to air their views and urged Malaysians not to be taken in by Opposition attempts for political mileage.

Senator Ismail Kasim said Kok and Lim’s actions almost affected bilateral ties between Malaysia and China.

"Kok had said she did not say the woman in the video clip was a Chinese national, but her actions were something else altogether. She brought four Chinese nationals here and there while the incident was being highlighted and this created an innuendo of sorts that the woman in custody was a Chinese national," he said when debating the 2006 Budget.

Senator Datuk Hamzah Zainudin said Kok aired the video clip in the Parliament lobby before MPs and ministers even though she had no background information on it.

"So we can safely say she aired it with the sole reason to embarrass the police and the country.

"Action can also be taken against her for possessing pornography."

Senator Datuk Idris Buang said Kok’s motive in "bringing the four Chinese nationals around" during the height of the incident was to deliberately cause friction between Malaysia and China.

Senator Datuk Yaakob Mohammad said Kok’s actions constituted treason and action should be taken against her.

"Kok is a traitor to the country. That is the closest thing I can think of to describe her."

According to Senator Datuk Dayang Mahani Ahmad Raffae, the police were "punished" as a result of the publicity over the clip, even though investigations had not been completed.

He said the incident also resulted in Home Affairs Minister Datuk Seri Azmi Khalid having to go to China to explain what had transpired.

"We should be supportive of our police force. Kok appears intent on embarrassing them."

Senator Siti Zailah Mohd Yusoff, however, urged action against the person who recorded the nude squats.

"It does not matter whether the person doing the squats is a Chinese national or not. What we should be concerned

http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Friday/National/20051216080127/Article/indexb_html
__________________________________________________ ___

Complaints raised by the following Senators :-
01 : Senator Ismail Kasim said Kok and Lim’s actions almost affected bilateral ties between Malaysia and China.

02 : Senator Datuk Hamzah Zainudin said Kok aired the video clip in the Parliament lobby before MPs and ministers even though she had no background information on it. "So we can safely say she aired it with the sole reason to embarrass the police and the country.

03 : Senator Datuk Idris Buang said Kok’s motive in "bringing the four Chinese nationals around" during the height of the incident was to deliberately cause friction between Malaysia and China.

04 : Senator Datuk Yaakob Mohammad said Kok’s actions constituted treason and action should be taken against her.

Comments :-
Saved for Senator Siti Zailah Mohd Yousff,
Why only Malay Senators raised & complaint the issues?
What happen to the rest ?
Isn't it RACIST ?

isarahim
17-12-2005, 02:06 PM
So what if the woman actually is Chinese afterall? What if the assumptions of the press are actually correct?

What if the idea that she's actually Malay is something cooked up as an eloquent cover-up, killing two birds with one stone: (1.) finding an easy way out of the hiccup in China relation and (2.) forcing the media to retreat.

How convenient that she turns out to be Malay? Or was she actually?

Sato
17-12-2005, 03:46 PM
Senators call for an apology from Kok

FOR the second day running, members of the Upper House have called for action against Seputeh MP Teresa Kok over the nude squats video clip controversy, saying her action had tarnished the image of the country.

The senators said Kok should apologise to all Malaysians in Parliament.

They said the DAP MP, together with Opposition leader Lim Kit Siang, had an ulterior motive in making public the video clip which showed a woman in police custody doing nude squats.

Many senators stood up to air their views and urged Malaysians not to be taken in by Opposition attempts for political mileage.

Senator Ismail Kasim said Kok and Lim’s actions almost affected bilateral ties between Malaysia and China.

"Kok had said she did not say the woman in the video clip was a Chinese national, but her actions were something else altogether. She brought four Chinese nationals here and there while the incident was being highlighted and this created an innuendo of sorts that the woman in custody was a Chinese national," he said when debating the 2006 Budget.

Senator Datuk Hamzah Zainudin said Kok aired the video clip in the Parliament lobby before MPs and ministers even though she had no background information on it.

"So we can safely say she aired it with the sole reason to embarrass the police and the country.

"Action can also be taken against her for possessing pornography."

Senator Datuk Idris Buang said Kok’s motive in "bringing the four Chinese nationals around" during the height of the incident was to deliberately cause friction between Malaysia and China.

Senator Datuk Yaakob Mohammad said Kok’s actions constituted treason and action should be taken against her.

"Kok is a traitor to the country. That is the closest thing I can think of to describe her."

According to Senator Datuk Dayang Mahani Ahmad Raffae, the police were "punished" as a result of the publicity over the clip, even though investigations had not been completed.

He said the incident also resulted in Home Affairs Minister Datuk Seri Azmi Khalid having to go to China to explain what had transpired.

"We should be supportive of our police force. Kok appears intent on embarrassing them."

Senator Siti Zailah Mohd Yusoff, however, urged action against the person who recorded the nude squats.

"It does not matter whether the person doing the squats is a Chinese national or not. What we should be concerned

http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Friday/National/20051216080127/Article/indexb_html
__________________________________________________ ___

Complaints raised by the following Senators :-
01 : Senator Ismail Kasim said Kok and Lim’s actions almost affected bilateral ties between Malaysia and China.

02 : Senator Datuk Hamzah Zainudin said Kok aired the video clip in the Parliament lobby before MPs and ministers even though she had no background information on it. "So we can safely say she aired it with the sole reason to embarrass the police and the country.

03 : Senator Datuk Idris Buang said Kok’s motive in "bringing the four Chinese nationals around" during the height of the incident was to deliberately cause friction between Malaysia and China.

04 : Senator Datuk Yaakob Mohammad said Kok’s actions constituted treason and action should be taken against her.

Comments :-
Saved for Senator Siti Zailah Mohd Yousff,
Why only Malay Senators raised & complaint the issues?
What happen to the rest ?
Isn't it RACIST ?

most likely due to their oversize a s s n attending too many jamuan makan resulting in too heavy for them to stand up n voice their s t u p i d opinions i think :rolleyes: what to expect from lazy mp that oni sway according to strong winds :mad:

tempuadua
17-12-2005, 05:34 PM
Senators call for an apology from Kok

FOR the second day running, members of the Upper House have called for action against Seputeh MP Teresa Kok over the nude squats video clip controversy, saying her action had tarnished the image of the country.

The senators said Kok should apologise to all Malaysians in Parliament.

They said the DAP MP, together with Opposition leader Lim Kit Siang, had an ulterior motive in making public the video clip which showed a woman in police custody doing nude squats.

Many senators stood up to air their views and urged Malaysians not to be taken in by Opposition attempts for political mileage.

Senator Ismail Kasim said Kok and Lim’s actions almost affected bilateral ties between Malaysia and China.

"Kok had said she did not say the woman in the video clip was a Chinese national, but her actions were something else altogether. She brought four Chinese nationals here and there while the incident was being highlighted and this created an innuendo of sorts that the woman in custody was a Chinese national," he said when debating the 2006 Budget.

Senator Datuk Hamzah Zainudin said Kok aired the video clip in the Parliament lobby before MPs and ministers even though she had no background information on it.

"So we can safely say she aired it with the sole reason to embarrass the police and the country.

"Action can also be taken against her for possessing pornography."

Senator Datuk Idris Buang said Kok’s motive in "bringing the four Chinese nationals around" during the height of the incident was to deliberately cause friction between Malaysia and China.

Senator Datuk Yaakob Mohammad said Kok’s actions constituted treason and action should be taken against her.

"Kok is a traitor to the country. That is the closest thing I can think of to describe her."

According to Senator Datuk Dayang Mahani Ahmad Raffae, the police were "punished" as a result of the publicity over the clip, even though investigations had not been completed.

He said the incident also resulted in Home Affairs Minister Datuk Seri Azmi Khalid having to go to China to explain what had transpired.

"We should be supportive of our police force. Kok appears intent on embarrassing them."

Senator Siti Zailah Mohd Yusoff, however, urged action against the person who recorded the nude squats.

"It does not matter whether the person doing the squats is a Chinese national or not. What we should be concerned

http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Friday/National/20051216080127/Article/indexb_html
__________________________________________________ ___

Complaints raised by the following Senators :-
01 : Senator Ismail Kasim said Kok and Lim’s actions almost affected bilateral ties between Malaysia and China.

02 : Senator Datuk Hamzah Zainudin said Kok aired the video clip in the Parliament lobby before MPs and ministers even though she had no background information on it. "So we can safely say she aired it with the sole reason to embarrass the police and the country.

03 : Senator Datuk Idris Buang said Kok’s motive in "bringing the four Chinese nationals around" during the height of the incident was to deliberately cause friction between Malaysia and China.

04 : Senator Datuk Yaakob Mohammad said Kok’s actions constituted treason and action should be taken against her.

Comments :-
Saved for Senator Siti Zailah Mohd Yousff,
Why only Malay Senators raised & complaint the issues?
What happen to the rest ?
Isn't it RACIST ?
Interesting question!!!! Why is that now that we know the lady in the video was a Malay lady, the rest of the "non-Malay" YBs and senators keep quite? is it because they think that the incident is no longer their "business"? If we know from the start that the lady was a Malay, I wonder if Theresa Kok and Lim Kit Siang would have been making noise like they did. Who actually is a racist here!!!

expat1609
18-12-2005, 05:21 PM
can#t help myself to see similar thing as in the us army abuse in iraq some time ago.
why i can hear the girl and officer in the video clip, was quite close-up shot, wasn't it?
i am asking myself, could any civilian come that close, i believe the cameraman was seen by both, the girl and the officer as well. was it another policeman having fun to document the justice done to a drug addict ???

and btw. it was a human being, once more why is everybody focused on that racial thingy again, easy friends relax on that part of the issue ;)

JackRyan1975
18-12-2005, 06:03 PM
If we know from the start that the lady was a Malay, I wonder if Theresa Kok and Lim Kit Siang would have been making noise like they did. Who actually is a racist here!!!

I am writing as an amateur observer of M'sian politics: I remember the DAP championing for a Malay underaged girl allegedly raped by a former Melaka CM some time back, and also recently championed a couple of Indian academics unfairly treated at UM. To imply that they only make noise for the Chinese is, hence, not entirely accurate.

By the way, in the most recent debate, I tend see them highlighting problems other NATIONALS (women from CHINA) faced in this country, rather than a particular RACE. Somehow some people cannot differentiate Malaysian Chinese from PRC Chinese and prefer to label these as racist politics in a local context played up by the DAP. Until this distinction is understood, one cannot post very intelligent comments.

silver_bird
19-12-2005, 12:52 AM
Originally Posted by tempuadua
If we know from the start that the lady was a Malay, I wonder if Theresa Kok and Lim Kit Siang would have been making noise like they did. Who actually is a racist here!!!

tempuadua,
You seems to have forgotten about DAP helping a Malay girl as per Lim Guan Seng Vs Ex-Melaka CM's Statutory Rape case in 1994. Having an "Axe to Grind" against them" ?
__________________________________________________ ________

The Charges :
Malaysian police arrested and charged Lim Guan Eng after he publicly criticized the government's handling of allegations of statutory rape against the former Chief Minister of Malacca, Tan Sri Abdul Rahim Tamby Chik in 1994. In January 1995 Lim Guan Eng stated that 'double standards' were being applied in the statutory rape case. Attorney General Mohtar Abdullah had decided not to prosecute Rahim Tamby Chik, while the underaged alleged victim, a fifteen-year old Muslim schoolgirl, was placed under 'protective custody'.
http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGASA280031997?open&of=ENG-2AS

silver_bird
19-12-2005, 12:54 AM
Sorry, it should be spelt as : Lim Guan Eng

simon_tan
19-12-2005, 01:58 AM
I wish our lawmakers would consider having a sort of 'whistleblower act', something like http://prtl.uhcl.edu/portal/page?_pageid=283,252116&_dad=portal&_schema=PORTALP

I find it funny, the comments made my some of our senators - they may have forgotten that they represent 'the people' yet they seem so concerned that DAP is out to embarass the police.

TheEdge
19-12-2005, 03:07 AM
Exactly my POV! You know ... anything that is repeated over and over and over again becomes accepted as true even if it isn't.
Goebbels?? This is getting interesting.


So what if the woman actually is Chinese afterall? What if the assumptions of the press are actually correct?
What if the idea that she's actually Malay is something cooked up as an eloquent cover-up, killing two birds with one stone: (1.) finding an easy way out of the hiccup in China relation and (2.) forcing the media to retreat.
How convenient that she turns out to be Malay? Or was she actually?
Even my Living Latino friend here is jumping on the bandwagon.

Conspiracy theories are great isn't it? Who know's... Maybe they have a sliver of truth in it.. So anyone care to start a new thread on 9/11?

Something to whet your appetites... (http://judicial-inc.biz/1_master_supreme.htm)

cskok8
19-12-2005, 10:22 AM
Senators representing the people!!! Come on, they represent the party who appointed them. :mad:

saml
19-12-2005, 02:55 PM
They are appointed so they have a duty to make whatever noise is expected of them otherwise next time they would no longer be appointed and these are the people who can get to parliament on their own.

gtl
19-12-2005, 03:06 PM
senators can make noise, but pls lah make good noise and not making stupid remarks. it is embarrassing as they represent the people.

silver_bird
19-12-2005, 07:31 PM
Is it true that our Senator's role is similar to "Rubber-Stamping" ?

pcyeoh
20-12-2005, 09:06 AM
Extract from Malaysiakini today

Noh in the know, say groups
Beh Lih Yi
Dec 19, 05 7:45pm

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v732/pcyeoh/7733.jpg
Deputy Internal Security Minister Noh Omar’s explanation that he had no prior knowledge about the identity of the victim in the nude video clip is ‘unacceptable’, said various groups today.

Noh, whose portfolio includes overseeing the police force, was reported today as saying that he only learnt of the woman’s nationality from newspapers.

However, certain quarters find this hard to digest since the deputy minister was said to have received a full report from the police regarding the incident on Nov 28, four days after the clip was exposed.

“If he and the police didn’t know, how could have they identified and called the woman to the independent inquiry?” asked PAS Dewan Muslimat information chief Dr Siti Mariah Mahmood

“They knew who she was all along,” she told a joint press conference in Kuala Lumpur.

The press conference was organised by DAP parliamentarian Teresa Kok, who exposed the clip, together with women’s groups and the women’s wings of opposition parties.

Difficult to accept

Kok said it was ‘difficult’ to accept the deputy minister’s reasoning. “Who went and found the girl at the inquiry then?” she asked.

It was initially speculated that the woman in the clip was a Chinese national but an independent inquiry held into the matter revealed that she was a local Malay.

The clip, which was recorded using a mobile phone, showed the woman being forced to do ear squats in the nude at the Petaling Jaya police headquarters. This sparked an outrage.

However, when it was revealed that the victim was a Malay, Kok and opposition leader Lim Kit Siang came under heavy fire from Barisan Nasional politicians for ‘shaming the country’.

Lim, who recently added a political twist to the saga, described this as a classic example of shooting the messenger.

Peeping Toms

Meanwhile, the various groups present today also pledged support for Kok in exposing the incident and urged her detractors to stop their attacks.

“We support Kok’s action. If not because of her exposure this matter would not have received attention from the public and government.

“It seems the government will only act when it involves the country’s economy, fearing that the number of Chinese tourists will drop,” said PAS Dewan Muslimat chief Azizah Khatib Mat.

The plight of Malaysian victims of police abuse is not heard, she added.

Jemaah Islah Malaysia (JIM) women’s chief Dr Harlina Halizah Siraj asked if voyeurism is common in police lock-ups.

“Since the filming of the video clip was done through a window, it leads to another question: whether it is common for peeping toms... to film these incidents?” she said.

Others present at the press conference were Parti Keadilan Rakyat (PKR) Wanita deputy chief Zuraida Kamaruddin, Women’s Collective Centre executive director Maria Chin Abdullah, Awam representative Yasmin Masidi and Selangor Chinese Assembly Hall Women’s chief Cheng Su Chean.

Also at the press conference were a reformasi protestor, Norazimah Mohd Nor, who was detained by the police five years ago, and another alleged victim of police abuse, transsexual Mumtaz.

"Why Nora, who was not a drug suspect, was stripped naked and ordered to do ear squats in front of 12 police officers?" asked Zuraida.

Mumtaz had last month complained of similar humiliation in the hands of the police when she was detained.

Flimsy reasons

In another development, Lim also dismissed Noh’s explanation as ‘hard to believe’ since it contradicted the statements made by his peer, Deputy Internal Security Minister Chia Kwang Chye yesterday.

“Chia gave three flimsy reasons why the police withheld vital information about the woman’s nationality. Firstly, the general perception that the woman was a Chinese national, secondly, the prime minister had announced the establishment of an independent commission of inquiry and thirdly, the despatch of Home Minister Azmi Khalid to China,” he said in a statement.

According to Lim, none of the three reasons could be accepted as adequate reasons or justifications for withholding the information.

“The question is whether Noh was privy to such withholding of vital information or was he completely in the dark?” he asked.

silver_bird
20-12-2005, 09:51 AM
It's a pity those Ruling Political Parties like UMNO, Wanito Umno, Pemuda UMNO, Putera & Puteri UMNO, MCA, MCA Youth & Wanita, MIC, MIC Youth & Wantia etc did not come forward to say their piece. Silence on the Western Front !!!

KelvC
20-12-2005, 01:54 PM
This issue will forever be remembered the Squatgate aka 11/24 (November 24th). The authorities has every opportunity to right what was wrong and to win back public confidence.

If all the questions are addressed (whatever the answers may be indisputably), then the Royal Commision Report that was made public earlier this year will not be for show nor in vain.

Alas, the golden opportunity was wasted and the home run never came home. Perhaps, in years to come, perhaps. Till then, it's status quo.

'Nuff said.

kwwong99
20-12-2005, 05:29 PM
Interesting...


Who says ear squats can dislodge hidden stuff?
Doctor With Conscience
Dec 20, 05 4:02pm



I am greatly concerned with the testimony given by Dr Zainab Shamsuddin as having been quoted by deputy public prosecutor Suhaimi Ibrahim during the hearings of the commission of inquiry into the nude ear-squats scandal.

Zainab was quoted to have testified that the act of squatting was capable of dislodging any hidden foreign objects inside body orifices. As a medical doctor, I am shocked by the statement and wonder whether it was truly from a medical expert.

Any young girl could tell that inserting a tampon into her vagina is a convenient way of stopping menstrual overflow if she wants to take a dip into swimming pool. She could also tell you that a tampon cannot be easily dislodged by a simple squat or even straining.

Squatting plus straining may not even dislodge an intra-vaginal substance like a tampon or any smooth-surfaced substances. For the vast majority of cases, a digital manoeuvre is needed to remove a substance in most cases, again depending what the substance is and what its size is.

In my clinical practice, I found women with toothed rubber band used for sexual pleasure and tampon being forgetfully left inside vagina for weeks. They presented to me with foul-smelling vaginal discharge and were too embarrassed to tell what they had done beforehand. These substance were not dislodged even when they went to toilet and strained to pass stool numerous times. I still had to use a vagina speculum and forceps to remove the foreign bodies causing them illness.

I really doubt the accuracy of Zainab’s testimony or it might have been intentionally misquoted due to political reasons. Moreover, Zainab is an obstetrician and gynaecologist and not a surgeon. The domain of 'anus' should be in the purview of a colorectal surgeon. The chances of getting things out of anal or vaginal orifices by mere squatting are extremely small. It is scientifically baseless.

It is a medical fact that the vaginal orifice does not have a voluntary musculature to control substance from going in and out. The vagina walls are made up of involuntary musculature. But that does not mean that foreign bodies can get out of vagina easily by simple squatting. On the contrary, it is not easy to expel something spontaneously from the vagina by simple squats.

The anus’ sphincter, meanwhile, is a powerful voluntary musculature which can control a substance inside the rectum effectively even with excessive squatting. In other words, it is even more difficult to dislodge a foreign body from the rectum through the anus when compared to the vagina.

I really think that their testimonies’ of some of the commission’s witnesses were more political than professional. I think the commission should call for more expert medical opinions. The investigation methodology used by the police is outdated and often procedures are based on sheer ignorance and arrogance. The commission should not have just wrapped up their inquiry so hastily.

orchipalar
20-12-2005, 05:52 PM
Err...dear KWWong:)...where did ya get this piece of news...perhaps it's better that you post the link to it as well...for easier n better reference:)

kwwong99
20-12-2005, 05:57 PM
OK. Here you go...http://www.malaysiakini.com/letters/44771

orchipalar
21-12-2005, 03:21 AM
Tuesday December 20, 2005

Two cops arrested in drug raid

BY LOURDES CHARLES

KAJANG: A deputy OCPD of a neighbouring state and his investigating officer were among 13 people who tested positive for drugs during a raid on a karaoke lounge here on Friday.

Six other police personnel tested negative.

However, the six, said to be from the district police headquarters here, are expected to face disciplinary action.

Selangor Chief Police Officer Deputy Commissioner Datuk Yahya Udin confirmed the arrests of a 42-year-old deputy superintendent and a 48-year-old chief inspector.

“No one is above the law, even if he is a police officer. We will bring them in for questioning and let the law take its course.

“We will continue with our raids on entertainment outlets suspected of selling, trafficking in or distributing drugs,” he told The Star.

It is learnt that the two police officers, who joined the force in 1987, have been released on bail pending investigations.

Sources said that a joint Narcotics Crimes Investigations Department team comprising officers and personnel from Bukit Aman and Selangor raided the place about midnight after months of surveillance.

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2005/12/20/nation/12915026&sec=nation

Err...the Police force n relevant parties could repeat over n over again to boast til kingdom comes...that these busted cops could also be amongst the 'isolated' cases being 1% of 'bad' cops in the larger Police force...only?

It seems to NOT make any difference at all...many people may still think that...with what the Force or relevant parties...want the general public to believe...are perhaps just a bunch of craps...

BUT that is NOT why Orchi posted about it...n the reasons why is simple n obvious enough...err...Orchi wonders...since last Friday...how many days were these freaking self drugged Police officers n personnels...detained in the freaking lockups...berapa hari Encik...!!??

Err...n then again...whether those self drugged suspects comprising of HIGHLY ranked Police officers n 6 other Police personnels for the matter...were subjected to being ordered during their detentions...to strip n perform the earsquats in complete NUDITY! or NOT...n to determine whether ...they too could be smuggling n shoving drugs...syringe needles n tooth brushes...UP their freaking anuses...!!?? :rolleyes: