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cskok8
27-11-2005, 10:44 PM
According to yesterday's paper, there are 13 million Singaporeans and 700,000 Bruneians (is that the correct term, GB) who have infiltrated into our country over the last 4 years. They must be hiding somewhere, waiting for the secret signal to create havoc.
Wait a minute, the entire population of Singapore and Brunei are less than those infiltrators, so who or where are they?
Figures could be wrong? Any idiot could tell you that. :mad:

tupai
27-11-2005, 11:05 PM
Eeeerieeeee...wooOoo....woooOOoo.....wooooOOOooo.. ..

the whole of spore is deserted :eek: all 13millions dead & living (yes 13million!) of them are in m'sia somewhere ...woooooOooo....wooooOOOOooo....WooooOOOOOOoooooo

how stooooooOOOOooooopid can it get????

Yang Amat BOLEH, BODOH, BuLLs lato tupai D.U.H, S.T.A.T, T.D.C., F.CUK.

mon
27-11-2005, 11:08 PM
Unbelievable.. :p ..they must be in "Lost' season 10.

orchipalar
27-11-2005, 11:21 PM
Err...hey Doc:)...which paper was it?...Orchi believes it could be misprint...ie 1.3 millions Singaporeans...n 70,000 from Brunei...perhaps? :confused:

kwchang
27-11-2005, 11:37 PM
Hey, you guys don't read the papers do you?
It was mentioned by an officer that they know there are gross mistakes in the statistics. The reasons for the mistakes could be attributed to not recording the people who exited Malaysia due to crowds at the exit point or the fact that most of the 'visitors' changed their status to 'work' rather than 'visit' at a later stage.

The crux of the matter is the lack of a computerised system to handle all these anomalies due to the inefficiencies of a manual system.

My observation is that once the immigration department is aware of the anomalies, they should stop publicising the numbers on their website as it no longer carry any weight. They should also stop using those statistics in their reports.

tan_r
28-11-2005, 12:06 AM
The sad thing is that many choose to quote out of context although in the same report the incorrect numbers were already acknowledged.

fedup
28-11-2005, 05:13 AM
Grow up it was just an excuse to harrass the chinese who are in the country. Tell me of a place in M'sia where you don't come across an "Indon, Bangla or Burmese serving food in a restaurant. Mind you if you go over to Asia Cafe in Subang Jaya ( half a kilo from Balai Subang Jaya)you may find that most of the workers are foreigners . They come from all over the world. Am I to believe that all these workers are "legal" or is the OCPD & IK blind or never been there? Come on this is M'sia Boleh. Selective persecution is the norm. :p I wonder if there are any immigresen officers staying in Subang Jaya or is it they choose to be blind. :mad:

xaviers
28-11-2005, 09:05 AM
let build a new statue of liberty at our common entry point. then we can be the next United States.... :D

tan_r
28-11-2005, 10:06 AM
.... Mind you if you go over to Asia Cafe in Subang Jaya ( half a kilo from Balai Subang Jaya)you may find that most of the workers are foreigners . They come from all over the world. Am I to believe that all these workers are "legal" ...
What makes you think that these people are illegals?

GreenBug
28-11-2005, 12:19 PM
I cannot speak for the Singaporeans but for Bruneinas, the entire country has a population of 270,000 people or thereabout. So, to have 700,000 Bruneians still living in Malaysia is quite preposterous. So, I accept that the statistics were in error.

This is very likely to happen if you care to pay a visit to the various checkpoints between Brunei and Sarawak/Sabah :

i. Sungei Tujuh, the entry point to go across to Miri, a newly-declared city ;
ii. Kuala Belait, by ferry to Labuan island
iii. Muara / Serasa Port - to Labuan island as well as across the Brunei Bay to Lawas
iv. Kuala Lurah / Tedunan , entry to go to Limbang and onwards to Kota Kinabalu

On some weekends, some friends of mine even ride Jet Skis across to Labuan, grab some seafood and drink duty-free Heineken tall cans for 2 ringgits only before riding back. No documents needed.... sometime even passed by those aggressive looking navy boats with their 90mm howitzers..... :D

If you look at the conditions of the check-points and the lackadaisical existence of the immigration officers, you will understand why 700,000 Bruneians have 'not returned'..... goyang-kaki, relaks and playing dum (checkers).... :D

Voter
28-11-2005, 12:36 PM
The same goes to tourist arrival statistics. Our Tourism Minister is ever proud to announce so many tens of millions tourists visit us each year; in fact these figures include those Singaporeans and Bruneians who enter JB, Miri or Labuan for few hours' stay, for a meal, may be, or shopping. If minus that category of "tourists", just how many tourists we REALLY get? Do we really see bus loads of tourists in KL, Penang, Malaka or other popular tourist destinations, like what we can see in Thailand, HK, Singapore, China cities etc? Not really; there may be a few ocassionally, but this does not seem to justify the figures as released by the Tourism Ministry. Nobody will be convinced THAT THE FIGURES ARE TRUE.

GreenBug
28-11-2005, 01:43 PM
The same goes to tourist arrival statistics. Our Tourism Minister is ever proud to announce so many tens of millions tourists visit us each year; in fact these figures include those Singaporeans and Bruneians who enter JB, Miri or Labuan for few hours' stay, for a meal, may be, or shopping. If minus that category of "tourists", just how many tourists we REALLY get? Do we really see bus loads of tourists in KL, Penang, Malaka or other popular tourist destinations, like what we can see in Thailand, HK, Singapore, China cities etc? Not really; there may be a few ocassionally, but this does not seem to justify the figures as released by the Tourism Ministry. Nobody will be convinced THAT THE FIGURES ARE TRUE.They cannot even control the immigration process less alone keep numbers. Now you know why there are hundreds of thousands of Indonesians, Bangladeshis and Myanmaris walking around downtown KL freely and without fear? :mad:

tupai
28-11-2005, 02:18 PM
The sad thing is that many choose to quote out of context although in the same report the incorrect numbers were already acknowledged.

Bro, its not the quote that is outta context. Acknowledgement or otherwise. The bigger fools are the itsy-bitsy officer/s who quoted these incredible numbers :eek: Do they not know that spore only has 3+million people and that includes babies in incubators? :confused: Are they MORE dumBER than me? DUH Mighty Blur one??? :D

to another post:
OK, When we had 7millions tourist arrivals (2000/1?/2? or something) 6million+ were S'poreans. The bulk came thru the causway.

2 years ago when we hit 11mil tourist arrivals, 9+millions were s'poreans.

what this tells you is that s'porean made REPEATED trips thru JB immigration.

I should know! I bloody well handled the TDC account b4! And I like to assume that I know HOW to read numbers. Tourist arrivals numbers are public info...Departures???not recorded????DUH!

Yang Amat BODOH lato tupai F.A. (mal)*


Note: *failed arithmatics

sirgalahad2010
28-11-2005, 03:43 PM
U mean to say that the tourism figures that Singapore is fond of trumpeting are for real?

How many of them are Malaysians making repeated trips across the Causeway and Second Link?

Seems to me that we have a lot of Singapore admirers out there!

penangkia
28-11-2005, 05:54 PM
U mean to say that the tourism figures that Singapore is fond of trumpeting are for real?

How many of them are Malaysians making repeated trips across the Causeway and Second Link?

Seems to me that we have a lot of Singapore admirers out there!


Aiya...forget about all them puffed up figures from govts. Want to get a good picture of true tourists and business travellers visitations, just spend a day at Changi AP and a day at KLIA.
Just look at the number of flights arriving and the numbers departing and the destinations, then look at the check-in queues and the crowds coming out to the arrival hall after immigration..

Ignore the Sing/KL sector...let's just assume this is a Mal/Sing pop.

Singapore beat bolehland hands down lar...and one has to admire them even if one has to do it grudgingly.

And what has Singapore got to offer the tourists compared to bolehland? You and I know we definately have more to show and offer, but why are they flocking more to the little red dot ? Not to mention the value of our RM.

Give it your best guess.

Ski
28-11-2005, 06:11 PM
Why are Singaporeans doing all their shopping, eating, playing and playing golf in JB and Melaka also gambling at Gentings and buying property too .Guess?

GreenBug
28-11-2005, 06:40 PM
Why are Singaporeans doing all their shopping, eating, playing and playing golf in JB and Melaka also gambling at Gentings and buying property too .Guess?Simple, S$1 : RM2.217... same as Bruneians all sepnd their time and money in Miri, Limbang, Labuan and Kota Kinabalu.... on top of that their per capita is also higher. For comparison, how much does a consrable earn in KL? In brunei, a police constable takes home BND1,480 (RM3,281) no less and also no EPF deduction... :cool:

Ski
28-11-2005, 06:47 PM
Exactly Greenbug so why do we need to go to Singapore except to see the xmas decorations at Orchard Road other than what else? Even persimmons are cheaper in KL ;)

GreenBug
28-11-2005, 06:54 PM
Exactly Greenbug so why do we need to go to Singapore except to see the xmas decorations at Orchard Road other than what else? Even persimmons are cheaper in KL ;)To be fair, many Malaysians popped into S'pore for the clean city, efficient public transportation, good shopping complexes, wide variety of goods, and crime-free city.... you don't need to worry someone will snatch your bag crossing Orchard Road and trip and get run over by a Metrobus.... you don't get choked by smog walking along their busiest road with lorries and busses chugging out massive exhaust fumes.... let's give credit where credit is due.


I have lived for a few years working in the island city-state. I still do have an apartment there. I don't like living in Singapore, honestly, but my wife and I love dropping in for the shopping and the visits. :D

Ski
28-11-2005, 07:07 PM
Yup, will be spending Xmas in Singapore for a change just to enjoy the celeberations and the atmosphere thats all, brother will do all the spending ;) ...ya i dont deny the transport system is tops.

monster
29-11-2005, 09:13 AM
I go there for the year-end warehouse sales and the Great Singapore Sales.
Some things are cheaper there.... esp some branded items... Somemore for free place to stay for me :D

Some things I bought cheap there are baby products. Eg: Avent items like the teats are S$5.30 a pair, here its RM19.90,
Also in past bought Graco baby high chair, baby car seat and stroller.

Voter
29-11-2005, 11:45 AM
U mean to say that the tourism figures that Singapore is fond of trumpeting are for real?

How many of them are Malaysians making repeated trips across the Causeway and Second Link?

Seems to me that we have a lot of Singapore admirers out there!

Unfortunately it is true. We admire Singapore for their efficiency, their Government's good governance, their good corporate governance, their efficient public transport system, their clean environment, their high score on little corruption, their high score of their universities, the list goes on, and on, and on. If only those in the Government of the Bolehland can swallow a little of their so called "pride", we can learn a lot from them, no need to look East!

penangkia
29-11-2005, 01:34 PM
Unfortunately it is true. We admire Singapore for their efficiency, their Government's good governance, their good corporate governance, their efficient public transport system, their clean environment, their high score on little corruption, their high score of their universities, the list goes on, and on, and on. If only those in the Government of the Bolehland can swallow a little of their so called "pride", we can learn a lot from them, no need to look East!

That's right. The irony was, Malaysia and Singapore were both in the same Class A in primary 6. Malaysia was the monitor who expelled Singapore for being a juvenile delinquent.
Now, who finally became an adult delinquent? :(

tempuadua
29-11-2005, 08:56 PM
:)
According to yesterday's paper, there are 13 million Singaporeans and 700,000 Bruneians (is that the correct term, GB) who have infiltrated into our country over the last 4 years. They must be hiding somewhere, waiting for the secret signal to create havoc.
Wait a minute, the entire population of Singapore and Brunei are less than those infiltrators, so who or where are they?
Figures could be wrong? Any idiot could tell you that. :mad:
Nobody is idiot here. When you talk about tourist coming in to the country, you count the numbers of people coming in into the country for that year, so if Mr.Kiasu visited Malaysia in and out 5 times in 2004, the statistic will show that 5 Singaporean visited malaysia for that year (even tho in actual fact it was only 1 Mr.Kiasu).
In the case of Bruneians, most of their visits are to Labuan, Limbang and Kota Kinabalu. Do you know that the road is so good that you can drive from BSB direct to Kota Kinabalu now.
I think Singaporean and Bruneians visited Malaysia for the same reason that Malaysians visit Bangkok! Not because their LRT is cleaner and wider than our, but because things over there are cheap and you can almost get anything your heart desire, period!

GreenBug
29-11-2005, 11:43 PM
:) In the case of Bruneians, most of their visits are to Labuan, Limbang and Kota Kinabalu. Do you know that the road is so good that you can drive from BSB direct to Kota Kinabalu now.
I think Singaporean and Bruneians visited Malaysia for the same reason that Malaysians visit Bangkok! Not because their LRT is cleaner and wider than our, but because things over there are cheap and you can almost get anything your heart desire, period!Not period, Tempudua! Also because you can wear your Cartier Santos 100 openly and nobody is going to chop your arms off and nobody is going to snatch the LV bag your wife is carrying.... :rolleyes:

USJ27Resident
30-11-2005, 03:41 PM
Originally Posted by cskok8
According to yesterday's paper, there are 13 million Singaporeans and 700,000 Bruneians (is that the correct term, GB) who have infiltrated into our country over the last 4 years. They must be hiding somewhere, waiting for the secret signal to create havoc.
Wait a minute, the entire population of Singapore and Brunei are less than those infiltrators, so who or where are they?
Figures could be wrong? Any idiot could tell you that.

Go figure it... the actual population of Singapore and Brunei and the number that is "hiding" in Malaysia....

I guess now that the secret is out on how the DISM and DIGP feels about tourist and foreigners... these "hidden" citizens will be flocking back over the borders... :p