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orchipalar
27-11-2005, 05:08 AM
Err...after a long absence...but since last night...there was a bunch of strayed cats(3 to be exact)...which made a constant nuisance n was being 'illogical'(mau tak mau!) in Orchi's home garden...:o

Ahem...until such time just before 04:50am...Orchi couldn't take it NO more!...n Orchi let off a grandfather of all thunder...err...which probably also woke up 1/2 of Orchi's closest neighbours...:o

Err...it has since been peaceful n serene...though :D

USJ27Resident
27-11-2005, 06:53 AM
:p no wonder you posting at 5 am...

.... haiya... 4~5am, kasi sama itu kucing la, "mau tak mau" ~ itu later boleh kau-tim.... :p

mon
27-11-2005, 09:13 AM
Poor Orchi and neighbours. I'd always thought having dogs could help shoo away the stray cats but NO! they get more excited being barked at! These USJ cats, are everywhere..Seriously, what could be done ar..

nothing.

kokomo
27-11-2005, 09:18 AM
Errmmm .. Orchi, I've a suggestion ... u can actually collect some fish bones, boil it in a pot then sum in 1/4 of rat poison ... :eek:

Confirm, those stray cats would come n hv a sip of those delicious soup u made ... then after they sipped for 1-2 mins .. ur whole area would be very quiet and peaceful again .. :D

orchipalar
27-11-2005, 09:27 AM
Err...trust Orchi...hadn't meant to harm the poor cats in any serious ways...than what was used...but beh tahan lah... :o

Kaaaa...BOOOOMMMM...!!!...err...they each went their separate ways...ahem...until the next time... :rolleyes:

Ahem...come to think of it...they might be going around...'courting' n doing their 'bizness'... in other areas of the neighbourhood...:o

kokomo
27-11-2005, 09:29 AM
:eek: then it means more stray cats !!!

orchipalar
27-11-2005, 09:34 AM
Err...while your neighbours' dog...wouldn't normally 'climbs' over to do their shiitty bizz...in your compounds...ahem...the neighbours' cats would certainly be more than 'happy' to dropby as 'ambassadors' in yours...to 'foster' good relationships amongst neighbours...:p

orchipalar
27-11-2005, 09:43 AM
Err...come to think of it...why are cats...so 'noisy' n 'violent' when going about with their courtships...?

Err...any cats lovers or experts...whom may be willing to share some of their knowledge n passions...?(Orchi means...those that are keeping cats as pets):o

Ahem...surely folks would agree with Orchi...that err...between the 2...cat poops...are more messy n smelly...right?:o

These days...what happen to their age old practice of...err...ahem...covering up their own shiitts?...they almost normally DO NOT do that lately...:mad:

Err...guess they are evolving too hor...to be more considerate n more civilized?:p

mon
27-11-2005, 10:06 AM
Orchi, how bout placing aluminum foil where you suspect the meow meows would be. They hate the way the foil sounds or the way it feels against their feet. Kinda expensive for outdoors but if they landed on it once..:p it could be the last time..

orchipalar
27-11-2005, 10:38 AM
Orchi, how bout placing aluminum foil where you suspect the meow meows would be. They hate the way the foil sounds or the way it feels against their feet. Kinda expensive for outdoors but if they landed on it once..:p it could be the last time..
Err...thanks Mon:)for the suggestion...n Orchi was thinking about the regular scenes in that famous TV cartoon series...err..."The Road Runner Show"...where the cayotte always got in trouble chasing after the road runner...*Beep Beep*...

Err...how about Orchi goes n get one of that 'ACME manual' of his..."How To Skin A CAT...?"...ahem...anyone knows where Orchi could get that ACME manual? :D :D

mon
27-11-2005, 10:46 AM
Err...how about Orchi goes n get one of that 'ACME manual' of his..."How To Skin A CAT...?"...ahem...anyone knows where Orchi could get that ACME manual? :D :D


:eek: :p Please don't! Ya just need a cat repellant..and more sleep. :)

orchipalar
27-11-2005, 11:14 AM
:eek: :p Please don't! Ya just need a cat repellant..and more sleep. :)
Err...for the life of Orchi...how could Orchi shuts the eyes n try to get some sleep...the whole freaking world is turning upside down...more thiefs n robbers are on the loose...when police just never learnt to stop...err...OR own up to their forkups... :rolleyes:

n to make matters worst...even the neighbours' freaking strayed cats...are running amoks...n ahem...having orgies in Orchi's home garden...in the freaking wee hours of the morning...:mad:

penangkia
27-11-2005, 12:20 PM
Orchi,
One idea that might work. Install a timer rotating sprinkler in your garden,if it is not too big. Set it at say 12am and 3am. for a 2-3 minute spray. Cats hate a wet place. If the sprinkler comes on during the their nortunal rendevous, better still.
I think you can buy it at ACE DIY.

Kill 2 birds with one stone...no need to water lawn in the morning.

Boy, I just hate them cats but a sucker for dogs.

when we were kids, we use to tie a pack of firecrackers with a 3 foot string to the tail of a sleeping cat....boy you see some cat dash hehehe :D Very shiok one lar.

bslee
27-11-2005, 12:34 PM
we use to tie a pack of firecrackers with a 3 foot string to the tail of a sleeping cat....boy you see some cat dash hehehe :D Very shiok one lar.

I'm puking! the kind of acts that you folks can think of doing!..
I regret to read here some have the audicity to boast animal cruelty for humor!. :mad:

Mod!..hope you can put an end to this sort of banter. This is NOT pleasant at all! :)

penangkia
27-11-2005, 01:09 PM
I'm puking! the kind of acts that you folks can think of doing!..
I regret to read here some have the audicity to boast animal cruelty for humor!. :mad:

Mod!..hope you can put an end to this sort of banter. This is NOT pleasant at all! :)

Hi, Mr. holier than thou. Perhaps you might have forgotten how it was like to be a kid and some of the silly things they do.

Did you puke at the sight of a tiger head trophy in a gweilo house or did you admired it in the 60s ? :rolleyes:

Have a good puke and be cleansed...it's Sunday afterall. :)

bslee
27-11-2005, 01:32 PM
Hi, Mr. holier than thou.
Have a good puke and be cleansed...it's Sunday afterall. :)

Wahlau ehh!... not only cruel but arrogant worrr!!!. :rolleyes:

penangkia
27-11-2005, 03:34 PM
Wahlau ehh!... not only cruel but arrogant worrr!!!. :rolleyes:


Cruel ? yea maybe, if you want call it that...some 40+years ago living in an adventurous neighbourhood of boys with endless ideas of pranks and stunts.
btw, the cats didn't die or were physically hurt, if one used a 3 foot string to attach the firecrackers to its tail....FACT. Only made it go for the 100m sprint record. :D
Sorry if this makes you puke again.

Arrogant ? No. I don't come in like a white knight in shinning armour and declare to the world about rightousness and ask the king to shut down this and that.

Having said all that, Mr. bslee, you are welcome to have one more shot at me on this matter which I will probably not respond.
I still prefer to be friends even though we have not met and you maybe a cat lover. :)
Have a good evening. ;)

Thousand apologies Mr. Adm. for stepping off line..

orchipalar
27-11-2005, 04:12 PM
Err...almost everybody Orchi knows from this forum...is aware of where Orchi stays...ahem...can any pets experts or cat loving owners... come over to Orchi's home garden...to give Orchi some sensible advice as to how Orchi could 'prevent' or if you like Orchi to use a more gentle term...ahem...'to discourage' them strayed cats...coming over n doing their 'courtships' in the middle of the night...err...n depositing loads of smelly cat poops on Orchi's previous 'pearl' grass lawn...???

Ahem...would appreciate it greatly...TQ:)

mon
27-11-2005, 04:16 PM
Orchi, I could loan you my doggies..my spitz has caught about 10 rats so far..and cats don't come near..they (the cats) just like to make lotsa 'noise' at the neighbours' or under the cars parked outside. :) or inside the drains :p

If that works, perhaps Orchi could adopt a doggie..they are good company and best of friends for your kids too..

orchipalar
27-11-2005, 04:23 PM
Orchi, I could loan you my doggies..my spitz has caught about 10 rats so far..and cats don't come near..they (the cats) just like to make lotsa 'noise' at the neighbours' or under the cars parked outside. :) or inside the drains :p
Err...Mon:)dear...problem arises...when they pissed n 'marked' their turfs n love nest...just under a bunch of bamboo trees...inside of Orchi's territory...apparently where it has the coolest shades from the hot sun in daytime... n the pale moonlight...in wee hours of the morning. :rolleyes:

Ahem...Orchi could go on to 'blast' off some thunders...but problems would arise...as the thunders could also wake up 1/2 of Orchi's closest neighbourhood... :o

orchipalar
27-11-2005, 04:57 PM
Err...just been informed by another neighbour troubled by the same nuisance...that the cats most likely belong to one of the neighbours whom had move out of one of the corner lots(with impressive renovated...extensions...grills n marble wall tiles behind Orchi's)...

Err...this neighbour remembers seeing them cats at the other guy's house...previously...

So...they moved out leaving behind n abandoning their cats?...err...what kinda cats lovers...could we be dealing with here...? :rolleyes:

mon
27-11-2005, 05:40 PM
So...they moved out leaving behind n abandoning their cats?...err...what kinda cats lovers...could we be dealing with here...? :rolleyes:

Sick in the head heartless irresponsible people :mad: Do ya think we could make a report to the MPSJ and get them to...I don't think so..anyone with a better idea? SPCA maybe?

Reminds me of that Douglas Choo.

orchipalar
27-11-2005, 06:38 PM
Err...Orchi could be wrong...but was made to know that...local authorities 'emphasize' on strayed or unlicensed dogs issues...n they would be quite 'helpless' when it comes to issues relating to feline or its owners... :rolleyes:

penangkia
27-11-2005, 06:59 PM
Err...Orchi could be wrong...but was made to know that...local authorities 'emphasize' on strayed or unlicensed dogs issues...n they would be quite 'helpless' when it comes to issues relating to feline or its owners... :rolleyes:

Unfortunately you are right. But if we take up this line of discussion, it will soon turned into some racial issues. Sad but true.

So best way to get a peaceful snooze and a clean lawn is to devise some crafty methods.

My earlier suggestion on timer sprinkler was not a joke...it was suggested to me by a friend in Oz and it worked for him. Apparently, they have this problem there too but not to our extent.
Their SPCA is also very efficient and police action on irresponsible pet owners are also quite fast and satisfying. Even then, those damn felines are somethime still a bloody nuisance.

Knight1993
27-11-2005, 08:05 PM
Err...just been informed by another neighbour troubled by the same nuisance...that the cats most likely belong to one of the neighbours whom had move out of one of the corner lots(with impressive renovated...extensions...grills n marble wall tiles behind Orchi's)...

Err...this neighbour remembers seeing them cats at the other guy's house...previously...

So...they moved out leaving behind n abandoning their cats?...err...what kinda cats lovers...could we be dealing with here...? :rolleyes:
orchi,i think you live near my house,because the cats around my area was also owned by a person who moved out last time,and the house i currently being renovated,and its a corner house,their cats are black and white(NOT ZEBRA STRIPES! :D )

orchipalar
27-11-2005, 08:48 PM
orchi,i think you live near my house,because the cats around my area was also owned by a person who moved out last time,and the house i currently being renovated,and its a corner house,their cats are black and white(NOT ZEBRA STRIPES! :D )
Err...what?...dear Knight:)...ya mean to tell Orchi...there could be MORE freaking cats owners who would abandoned their cats...at your neighbourhood as well...??

Err...was thinking this could be an isolated case in USJ2 niah...wow!...how wrong Orchi has been...! :rolleyes:

Knight1993
27-11-2005, 09:29 PM
yup,but those strays never come to my house,i only hear them fighting at night.

believe a not,i 'own' a stray cat,that cat is a mother to 3-4 kittens,i gave the kittens away but the mother.....just leave it,anyway,that cat always 'hang out' behind my house,but we don't mind,coz it help catch rats and cocroach,and it sh!t at a very narrow street that nobody goes near(maybe because of the sh!ts :D)

orchipalar
27-11-2005, 11:15 PM
My earlier suggestion on timer sprinkler was not a joke...it was suggested to me by a friend in Oz and it worked for him. Apparently, they have this problem there too but not to our extent.
Their SPCA is also very efficient and police action on irresponsible pet owners are also quite fast and satisfying. Even then, those damn felines are somethime still a bloody nuisance.
Err...dear PenangKia:)...using a sprinkler could be good news for folks with larger lawn mass in their gardens...err...Orchi's punya is much smaller...n fully grown with small plants n trees...with just enough space for little Orchis to start hitting the shuttlecocks...

Ahem...now that's where it got Orchi crazy...they deposited loads of poops on that very same clearing...so ya can imagine little Orchis stepping onto them freaking cat shiit spots...:eek:

Err...coming to SPCA and the Police...no doubt that they are...but Orchi believes...they got better things to do...than to come over to Orchi's place...looking for a bunch of horny n nuisance felines...:o

in
28-11-2005, 08:52 AM
If you're willing to spend time and money, this is what you can do regarding amorous cats. Catch them and get them spayed/neutered at the vet. It costs about RM60 per cat I think. This should stop all those night noises and also stop future generations of kitties. By doing this, the cat population in your area should eventually dwindle. Furthermore you're doing a good deed!

CCY
28-11-2005, 09:01 AM
If you're willing to spend time and money, this is what you can do regarding amorous cats. Catch them and get them spayed/neutered at the vet. It costs about RM60 per cat I think. This should stop all those night noises and also stop future generations of kitties. By doing this, the cat population in your area should eventually dwindle. Furthermore you're doing a good deed!

Hey...In.. the charge for catnapping may be on the way when the rightful owner pop up. Will or will not ?

orchipalar
28-11-2005, 09:25 AM
If you're willing to spend time and money, this is what you can do regarding amorous cats. Catch them and get them spayed/neutered at the vet. It costs about RM60 per cat I think. This should stop all those night noises and also stop future generations of kitties. By doing this, the cat population in your area should eventually dwindle. Furthermore you're doing a good deed!
Err...dear In:)...yesterday...Folks were amazed n laughing their butts off...after seeing crazy Orchi running across the neighbourhood streets trying to catch a bunch of strayed n horny felines...:D

Orchi is not kidding...ahem...they constantly hid under cars or dashed between merde drains...n one even climbed up a neighbour's rambutan tree... :rolleyes:

n all that while...err...Orchi was trying also to find a way to 'communicate' with them..."hey stop!...Orchi is trying to help you instead...don't run please?":D

orchipalar
28-11-2005, 09:28 AM
Hey...In.. the charge for catnapping may be on the way when the rightful owner pop up. Will or will not ?Err...holly cow!...aiyo!...Orchi never even thought about that possibility wor...so how? :o

in
28-11-2005, 09:52 AM
Orchi, yes, its difficult to catch a cat. :) What I've been doing to the alleycats behind my house is this. I've been feeding the stray cats of and on and now they are somewhat tame and not so scared of me. Slowly get them on your side! So its easy to catch them and have them snip-snipped!

Regarding cat poo. I notice they usually like to poo on sand. So try to make sure there is no sandy patches in your garden. (I know this can be difficult)

.....regarding catnapping. If the cat looks kurap, more often than not its a stray cat. :)

orchipalar
28-11-2005, 10:15 AM
Orchi, yes, its difficult to catch a cat. :) What I've been doing to the alleycats behind my house is this. I've been feeding the stray cats of and on and now they are somewhat tame and not so scared of me. Slowly get them on your side! So its easy to catch them and have them snip-snipped!

Regarding cat poo. I notice they usually like to poo on sand. So try to make sure there is no sandy patches in your garden. (I know this can be difficult)

.....regarding catnapping. If the cat looks kurap, more often than not its a stray cat. :)Err...got what ya mean In:)...but guess what...they are already helping themselves at Orchi's kitchen...where they would hop in thru the windows...n whilst the Maid's attention strayed a bit whenever little Orchis were making a nuisance of themselves at home...the cats would grab whatever was in the kitchen...hehe...n almost always they like the raw fish hor...:D

Err...regarding their smelly bizness...they are somewhat fond of doing it on Orchi's lawn...instead :rolleyes:

CCY
28-11-2005, 10:28 AM
Orchi, yes, its difficult to catch a cat. :) What I've been doing to the alleycats behind my house is this. I've been feeding the stray cats of and on and now they are somewhat tame and not so scared of me. Slowly get them on your side! So its easy to catch them and have them snip-snipped!

The problem is that someone have pity on this strays and start feeding them thereby luring these strays to frequent that area and after all the 'mau tak mau' day n night orgies , inevitably the numbers increase.


Regarding cat poo. I notice they usually like to poo on sand. So try to make sure there is no sandy patches in your garden. (I know this can be difficult)

No...some don't have any preference on their nature call location. They even do it on my matress upstairs room and then pull the kiddies blanket over to cover it..yak..:eek:
Most often I find them depositing on my open lawn....
Perhaps it is a form of protest by them ....:)


.....regarding catnapping. If the cat looks kurap, more often than not its a stray cat. :)

Hehehe....almost all are fatcats in the back alleys.....:D

in
28-11-2005, 11:03 AM
Wah....the cats in your area sounds tough! I don't have it as bad as you guys....

As far as I can tell, there are only 3 alleycats at the back of our home. I've never had problems with them pooing in my house/compound and they never come in to my kitchen (keep the door closed all the time and the window levers half closed) BTW, 'my' alleycats are not fat - very kurap looking. As for the front of house, I have a dog, so I don't generally have a problem.

orchipalar
28-11-2005, 11:56 AM
Wah....the cats in your area sounds tough! I don't have it as bad as you guys....

As far as I can tell, there are only 3 alleycats at the back of our home. I've never had problems with them pooing in my house/compound and they never come in to my kitchen (keep the door closed all the time and the window levers half closed) BTW, 'my' alleycats are not fat - very kurap looking. As for the front of house, I have a dog, so I don't generally have a problem.
Err...dear In:)...no wonder ya have less problems with them felines...ya got a watch dog...securing your turfs:p

Very soon...should the problems persist...Orchi might have to resort to more cruel means to get rid of those in Orchi's neighbourhood...

Err...afterall...we are talking animals here...gotta inflict some 'fear' into their instinct...that they should keep out of Orchi's compound...:o

Tidak harus biarkan mereka bermaharajalela... :p

Nic_of_Time
28-11-2005, 12:41 PM
I have my unfair share of dogs and cats nuisance
and have written about them in this forum.
Looks like this will go on till eternity.

MPSJ should do something about cats as well.
All pet cats should be licensed, 'chipped' and neutered.
MPSJ should round up all stray cats without 'chips'.

No point driving cats away from your house to
your neighbours.
Total elimination to Timbukto is a must.

I notice hardware stores are now selling very big
traps(1.5' x 2' x 1.5') like those for rats.
I am sure these are for cats arising from high demands.
We should buy these traps and catch the unlicensed cats
and send them to SPCA who will deal with them in the most
effective way.

orchipalar
28-11-2005, 01:00 PM
MPSJ should do something about cats as well.
All pet cats should be licensed, 'chipped' and neutered.
MPSJ should round up all stray cats without 'chips'.

No point driving cats away from your house to
your neighbours.
Total elimination to Timbukto is a must.

I notice hardware stores are now selling very big
traps(1.5' x 2' x 1.5') like those for rats.
I am sure these are for cats arising from high demands.
We should buy these traps and catch the unlicensed cats
and send them to SPCA who will deal with them in the most
effective way.Err...dear Nic_of_Time:)...in this country...what you just proposed that MPSJ does...is politically incorrect!...ahem...unless one day...Orchi could notice that the sun is rising from the WEST...:o

But err...agree with you about using the trap thingy...a similar idea was proposed by Orchi's youngest yesterday..."Err papa...you get something ar... that smell nice or get a fish n put it in our garden...it would then attract the cats to come over...n you can catch it...lor":)

Ahem...but then again...how many times could Orchi be doing that...by sending the catches to SPCA?...EVERY time...a freaking pussy lover decides to abandon his or her cats...?:rolleyes:

Ski
28-11-2005, 02:23 PM
Hi
I dont understand all the fuss over some stray cats on heat, unlike humans they are are on heat for a short while, so just bear for a while as they get over their musical love game, its nature way to propogate
Talking about s** t i find it more disgusting when parents allow their children to s**t outside the toilet bowls in public toilets.
There is far more noise that comes blasting five times a day and as we are very good citizens and tolerant we and dont gripe and whine.Ya?

Btw there was a very long heated thread of this nature not long ago and a well know forumer suggested we cross bow this felines..I dont know if she is still around or gone to hell.

Nic_of_Time
28-11-2005, 02:58 PM
The issue is not just cats on heat, ( in any case, all the cats don't come on heat at the same time), but a whole range of other problems like ****ting (terrible stench), urinating by the window, going into rooms, stealing food in the kitchen, prowling along the lower roof, new born kittens whining from hidden crevices, etc. With no control in sight from MPSJ, a population explosion of stray cats is impending.

The dogs situation seem to be manageable nowadays with MPSJ putting in pressure and my neighbours are co-operative enough to train the dogs to bark less. But still a problem when they are taunted by the untouchable cats outside their reach. As with cats, looks like i have to wait for the sun to rise from the West... or perhaps a blue moon...

I do like animals, but personally i think dogs and cats should not be allowed to be reared in terraced-houses or apartments in urban housing areas. Exceptions only for handicapped people.

orchipalar
28-11-2005, 03:05 PM
Hi
I dont understand all the fuss over some stray cats on heat, unlike humans they are are on heat for a short while, so just bear for a while as they get over their musical love game, its nature way to propogate
Talking about s** t i find it more disgusting when parents allow their children to s**t outside the toilet bowls in public toilets.
There is far more noise that comes blasting five times a day and as we are very good citizens and tolerant we and dont gripe and whine.Ya?

Btw there was a very long heated thread of this nature not long ago and a well know forumer suggested we cross bow this felines..I dont know if she is still around or gone to hell.
Err...Ski:)...Orchi is surprised about your superb memory n recollections of accurate posting details of this forum...which happened even before 'your time'...ahem...only Farouk...could have known what exactly went down with that thread...

Ahem...this thread has so far been FREE of any heated arguments...please see to it that...issues relating to religious matters of our neighbours n friends...which is fixed at certain timetables...n or...only happens between...after (Subuh)06:00am and (Ishak)around 20:00pm or so...which is TOTALLY irrelevant to this thread...n should NOT be brought out for debate in here again...TQ:)

Ski
28-11-2005, 04:14 PM
Hi Orchi
I am just saying that we hear all kinds of sounds at night and early hours of the morning, and even one time even areoplanes and its doesnt bother me. i have lived here for 20 years and have no problems yet..dont worry i am not griper.

Oh, btw i have been in and out of this forum for quite awhile.

Tq

Pets=Friends
28-11-2005, 05:59 PM
In, I agree with you.

What we need are people who are commited in resolving the issue in a non-violent manner.

For the next TT, orchi san can i propose that you set up a special task force, volunteers from the neighbourhood to round up all the stray cats (pick a day), start small lets say your area first. But first make a appointment with the Veterinary department and there after transport all the cats to the operating table for a mass neutering campaign. Collect funds from neighbours who want to have peaceful sleep at night. Its around RM45 per cat. You might have to do a follow-up round after a month but I think this significantly reduce the stray cat population.

As for potential cat owners who cry foul of catnapping, what are they gonna do, report you for animal abuse, yeah right.

I will volunteer my time to round up the cats, its a collective effort - baits, traps, nets, you name it but we have an action plan. If you want, i can call Sabrina Yeap for council. Their "Friends of Felix" campaign was a huge success and did the cats all walk willingly to the mat salleh's house, well you be the judge of that.

This goes out to everyone who's serious enough to put an end to this. If not, like what Ski said earlier, enjoy the music lah....mau tak mau (paul oakenfield remix)

chsum
28-11-2005, 06:57 PM
Sleepless Orchi, may I suggest u buy a mother of all big water pum gun (like the one hold by Mr Arnie in Terminator) ;) and blast the hell out of any things that move and say "Astalavita baby" after u did it.

ps. make sure it can shoot over ten feet, do not go for the pea shooter ur kid use, not effective.

they hate water, it won't harm them, the worst it will only give them a cold. I manage to corner one of the gang's taiko in my house and shoot him up real well, after that no more problemo for me. :D

But u will have alot to explain to neighbours if they say u with that thing running around ur house in the middle of the night :eek:

My dua sens

Knight1993
29-11-2005, 05:18 AM
warr......u all spend so much time and money juz to sleep arr? the cats over there really very WILD ler

the cats here ain't that wild,it ai'nt that noisy either,actually,i've been 'rearing' a cat since.....well......since.....begining of 2005,and now,its helping me catch rats,cocroaches,and helping me keep the other cats away(i really dunno how this haappen)i noticed that since i 'reared' this cat,the numbers of cats that does their business in my garden,stole food from the kitchen......have reduced to none

anyway,am i the only 1 who 'rears' stray cats?

balitan
29-11-2005, 07:39 AM
so much talk about stray cats

people who rear cats and allow them to roam are no better than those who keep dogs and allowing them to roam
just that cats don't bite people, stray dogs do !!

cat behaviour is that if the cat likes your compound, it will ALWAYS come back and just bask in the sun, AND once it beraks in your garden, it will ALWAYS come back and repeat it again

so lets set traps, tangkap and do whatever u desire with it ..........
or set baits with something in it .............

cats owners, jangan marah if u allow your pets to ROAM
the fact that if the cat were to roam, u have NO right to say anything
because the cat has infringed on the 'rights' of others

thank u

penangkia
29-11-2005, 10:17 AM
Well said balitan.

orchipalar
29-11-2005, 11:30 AM
Err...tsk tsk tsk!...2 more strays(boh sia?)...joined in the foray...whilst the dorminant one seems to emerge as victorious...ahem...only to scurried off by an indirect blast of...err :o

CCY
29-11-2005, 11:37 AM
Err...tsk tsk tsk!...2 more strays(boh sia?)...joined in the foray...whilst the dorminant one seems to emerge as victorious...ahem...only to scurried off by an indirect blast of...err :o

Hey..string out a rope lace with rat glue around .That would discourage further intrusion after being pinched at the first attempt....:p

Nic_of_Time
29-11-2005, 01:56 PM
For the next TT, orchi san can i propose that you set up a special task force, volunteers from the neighbourhood to round up all the stray cats (pick a day), start small lets say your area first. But first make a appointment with the Veterinary department and there after transport all the cats to the operating table for a mass neutering campaign. Collect funds from neighbours who want to have peaceful sleep at night. Its around RM45 per cat. You might have to do a follow-up round after a month but I think this significantly reduce the stray cat population.

That is a very good idea if we can pull it off.
First we do a cat census by road & areas.
Cat owners should be advised to tag their cats
with names, address and contact number.
Then we do the rounding-up.
Stray cats should best be sent a one-way trip to heaven,
no point to let them suffer where food is always uncertain and that
they have to steal or scavenge rubbish bins.

As for stray dogs, we can report to MPSJ if we see any.
I am sure they will respond quite willingly to exterminate them.

NATO... hope not..

orchipalar
29-11-2005, 02:27 PM
That is a very good idea if we can pull it off.
First we do a cat census by road & areas.
Cat owners should be advised to tag their cats
with names, address and contact number.
Then we do the rounding-up.
Stray cats should best be sent a one-way trip to heaven,
no point to let them suffer where food is always uncertain and that
they have to steal or scavenge rubbish bins.

As for stray dogs, we can report to MPSJ if we see any.
I am sure they will respond quite willingly to exterminate them.

NATO... hope not..Err...agree with you Nic_of_Time:)on the above...

How effective could it be?...running regular gotong royong...when there are idiots everywhere that would constantly throw or dump filths on their back alleys...:rolleyes:

So...Orchi believes...that the so called 'owners' of these nuisance(n they called themselves animal lovers or pest lovers?)...should take the initiatives n responsibilities...to ENSURE that they could keep n control...their 'joyous n prized' possessions to themselves... :rolleyes:

Ski
29-11-2005, 03:06 PM
Hi
Talking about stray cats whatever happened the the band Alleycats..Arumugan the famous afro hair singer and his catchy Malay songs are they still producing albums.
I still remember some of their hits

Jika Kau Bercinta Lagi,
Terima Kasih
Senandung Semalam
Oh kota raya
Gadis impian
Sekeping hati yang luka
Aku kerinduan

Purrrr

bslee
29-11-2005, 04:15 PM
So...Orchi believes...that the so called 'owners' of these nuisance(n they called themselves animal lovers or pest lovers?)...should take the initiatives n responsibilities...to ENSURE that they could keep n control...their 'joyous n prized' possessions to themselves... :rolleyes:

Hi Orchi,
I think you're spewing a bit too much venom in public!
Errrrrr!! ...ahem!!!..Its stinks as bad as a racial slur!.
We all have grieviences and tolerance but don't push it to the point of angering some!..: ;)

orchipalar
29-11-2005, 04:23 PM
Hi Orchi,
I think you're spewing a bit too much venom in public!
Errrrrr!! ...ahem!!!..Its stinks as bad as....
We all have grieviences and tolerance but don't push it to the point of angering some!..: ;)Err...yes BSLee:)...you could be right about the possibility of angering some...while they(like Orchi too) got smelly cat poops in their own turfs...ahem...after some of your neighbours perhaps...may have neglected and abandoned their freaking nuisance pest!... :rolleyes:

bslee
29-11-2005, 04:38 PM
I KNOW how you feel and have experienced the same thing or even worse since moving here 8 years ago. Got scores of felines meowing at different times, poops all over..u name them, I've experienced them all! I reckon I'm very very tolerant and patient. To me its just another natural phenomenon I could live with..and its never crossed my mind to make a whole issue about it IN PUBLIC!.
Perhaps I should now bring up an issue of Romeo dogs on the heat barking in the middle of nite, irresponsible owners allowing their dogs to pee & poop in front of people's home, spraying their pee on car tyres, stray mongrel dog gangs prowling the backlanes barking away, what else huh?...
I think I could tolerate meowing but not defeaning barks and irritating yapping of dogs..especially those small but noisy breeds like spitz..if not mistaken..

PERHAPS Allow me to say this just once!
Anyone who doesn't want to experience abandoned or stray animals disturbing your piece of mind!..be my guest and move to some 35th floor of a condo or apartment!. There's always a price to be paid for staying anywhere!.
There are more important community issues to be addressed than a matter of meowing and cat poo!. :)

orchipalar
29-11-2005, 04:51 PM
I KNOW how you feel and have experienced the same thing or even worse since moving here 8 years ago. Got scores of felines meowing at different times, poops all over..u name them, I've experienced them all! I reckon I'm very very tolerant and patient. To me its just another natural phenomenon I could live with..and its never crossed my mind to make a whole issue about it IN PUBLIC!.
Perhaps I should now bring up an issue of Romeo dogs on the heat barking in the middle of nite, irresponsible owners allowing their dogs to pee & poop in front of people's home, spraying their pee on car tyres, stray mongrel dog gangs prowling the backlanes barking away, what else huh?...
I think I could tolerate meowing but not defeaning barks and irritating yapping of dogs..especially those small but noisy breeds like spitz..if not mistaken..

Err...now that's plenty which Orchi could appreciate from you BSLee:)...for the very same reasons and considerations in mind constantly...Orchi is reluctant to keep any dogs or cats as pets...TQ

Ski
29-11-2005, 05:19 PM
PERHAPS Allow me to say this just once!
Anyone who doesn't want to experience abandoned or stray animals disturbing your piece of mind!..be my guest and move to some 35th floor of a condo or apartment!. There's always a price to be paid for staying anywhere!.
There are more important community issues to be addressed than a matter of meowing and cat poo!. :)

I will drink to that.. Amen.

Nic_of_Time
29-11-2005, 05:22 PM
To me its just another natural phenomenon I could live with..and its never crossed my mind to make a whole issue about it IN PUBLIC!.

I think pests of any kind, be it dogs, cats, termites, mosquitoes or even humans should be addressed accordingly. So far, other than cats, we have made a lot of hoo-hahs regarding the other mentioned pests. The issue of pesky dogs is well handled by MPSJ, that is why we do not discuss much about dogs in this thread.

Since the the stray cats population in USJ seem to expanding tremendously, i don't see why we should not discuss it in public with the hope of finding some amiable solutions. We are targetting strays and i noted orchi emphasis is on irresponsible owners who abandoned their cats to the elements. As i had said, we do a census first and see whether it is a major problem or not. If not, the individuals can handle their own 'cat' problem.

We are focussing on cats as the topic of this thread is about 'Strayed Cats'. Understand that the question of cats can sometimes create some emotional slant. To balance and soften the approach, and avoid any racial sentiments, any actual project to be implemented should without bias, emphasis should be on 'strays', be it dogs or cats.

orchipalar
29-11-2005, 05:27 PM
Originally quoted by BSLee: There are more important community issues to be addressed than a matter of meowing and cat poo!.

I will drink to that.. Amen.Err...yes again...Gentlemen:)...Now you are talking...Orchi shall be looking forward to seeing n working with you guys in person...in the more important n existing community's sticky issues at hands...err...for a start...how about joining us this Friday 2nd at our regular TT session in USJ16...n lending us a helping hand with this one for a start...? (http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/upload/showthread.php?t=10407) :)

Nic_of_Time
29-11-2005, 05:41 PM
Anyone who doesn't want to experience abandoned or stray animals disturbing your piece of mind!..be my guest and move to some 35th floor of a condo or apartment!. There's always a price to be paid for staying anywhere!.
There are more important community issues to be addressed than a matter of meowing and cat poo!.

BSlee, i think that's a bit condescending and that is unhealthy in any forum.

We should be open as much as possible to all ideas and brainstorm the issues raised. In any discussion, the generation of a wide variety of views is healthy and is beneficial to all by adding to our pool of knowledge. When it comes to taking actions, i think most people here are matured enough to prioritize.

However, if any actions are taken, it will be probably be done firstly by those who have vested interests in the specific and those who freely want to volunteer. In any case, before any action is to be taken, we would have to take into account any cautions or objections raised by others in this community.

Correct me if my judgement is wrong, you seem to imply, you all 'SHUT UP!!', wait for some 'tsunami' to happen, then you will agree to discuss or take action.

Pets=Friends
29-11-2005, 05:44 PM
Some people still keep cats in condos, apartments despite the no animal policy.

I don't think a census is necessary at all, if the neighbourhood knows (after all the hoo hah) that we're out to neuter cats and put those beyond saving to sleep, surely they will guard their precious pussy with their life hehe.

At least this is a plan, rather than gripe about it online and do nothing, hoping it would go away or installing some canggih sprinkler in a monsoon country like Malaysia.

For the record, I don't even like cats but surely there must be something the community as a whole can do beside WHINING.

girl2
29-11-2005, 06:12 PM
Hi Orchi,
I think you're spewing a bit too much venom in public!
Errrrrr!! ...ahem!!!..Its stinks as bad as a racial slur!.
We all have grieviences and tolerance but don't push it to the point of angering some!..: ;)


Orchi spewing venom in public and a racist?? You sure?
Orchi was just trying to create an awareness about cat owners who should own up to their cat problem and be in control. Just as they would expect dogs to be caged and controlled. Anything wrong with that? Watch that tongue buddy.

girl2
29-11-2005, 06:17 PM
PERHAPS Allow me to say this just once!
Anyone who doesn't want to experience abandoned or stray animals disturbing your piece of mind!..be my guest and move to some 35th floor of a condo or apartment!. There's always a price to be paid for staying anywhere!.
There are more important community issues to be addressed than a matter of meowing and cat poo!. :)


I will drink to that.. Amen.

So, if someone wants to be free of house thefts etc...they should move next to a police station?? sigh...

girl2
29-11-2005, 06:31 PM
Err...yes again...Gentlemen:)...Now you are talking...Orchi shall be looking forward to seeing n working with you guys in person...in the more important n existing community's sticky issues at hands...err...for a start...how about joining us this Friday 2nd at our regular TT session in USJ16...n lending us a helping hand with this one for a start...? (http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/upload/showthread.php?t=10407) :)

Still no reply from the 'gentlemen' Orchi? Trust me, the 'gentlemen' would not show up. Chicken, cats or dogs now. Which is the better pet.

bslee
30-11-2005, 12:25 AM
We are focussing on cats as the topic of this thread is about 'Strayed Cats'.

BSlee, i think that's a bit condescending and that is unhealthy in any forum.
Correct me if my judgement is wrong, you seem to imply, you all 'SHUT UP!!', wait for some 'tsunami' to happen, then you will agree to discuss or take
action.
1. I believe this topic started purely out of a personal irritation in the wee hours of dawn that could be tolerated!.

2. Up to this point I'm compelled to be rather blunt!..and I'm certainly not the only one around being blunt!...no regret! There are others who not only being blunt but taunt you as well here :rolleyes:
Don't ask me for names..no further comment!. :cool:


So, if someone wants to be free of house thefts etc...they should move next to a police station?? sigh...
OTH, you trust the police? only recently, a detained car got vandalized for the record!.

Orchi was just trying to create an awareness about cat owners who should own up to their cat problem and be in control. Just as they would expect dogs to be caged and controlled. Anything wrong with that? Watch that tongue buddy.

Awareness?..NOT from my point of view, its derived from his unlucky irritation at dawn!. The dog issue is not fully settled yet, go settle fully that, then you could start on cats, rats, cochroaches, termites ..perhaps in that order. :rolleyes: All these "irritate" someone, somehow and sometimes..

On the lighter side, my late uncle told me this from real experience.

He once brought a tub of flying fox meat for relatives across the causeway and was stopped by the customs.

Customs : Sir, you can't bring this meat across as its not allowed and has to be subjected to health inspection.

Uncle Moses: Damn you!..I reckon you should also think when the flying foxes fly over from JB to Singapore, they should stopover here and let you chop their passports ya?.

Customs: Speechless!

Uncle Moses : Now get out of the way, don't waste my f time!...

Customs : Speechless again!.

Uncle Moses happily sped off to his destination!

The crux of the matter is when I see this unworthy topic steam up to 5 pages..I honestly ask myself, What the F? I try to see what's the issue. ITS NO ISSUE!..yet it escalates to 5 and maybe more damn pages as if its some national disaster making a debut!. :eek:

I reckon most could be happy if cats were able to do this : :D

girl2
30-11-2005, 08:27 AM
1. I believe this topic started purely out of a personal irritation in the wee hours of dawn that could be tolerated!.
You must a darn heavy sleeper, but speak for yourself only if you have to, many ppl, including myself, would not tolerate any sound at all, let alone being waken up in the wee hours of the morn finding all cat poos in my beautiful garden, and knowing that there is where my children would be playing barefoot in a few hours time. Not irritated enough?? Try having this scenario every single day.

2. Up to this point I'm compelled to be rather blunt!..and I'm certainly not the only one around being blunt!...no regret! There are others who not only being blunt but taunt you as well here :rolleyes:

Blunt or honest? Isn't it all for the better?? Like what you're doing now? Or do you mean you're compelled to be always nice and agreeable, always willing to touch someone's heart? May I please..have your phone number.


OTH, you trust the police? only recently, a detained car got vandalized for the record!.
So, suggesting that we move up to the 35th floor of an apartment would be something you quoted out of sarcascism?? Or was it just plain bluntness. Think please.

Awareness?..NOT from my point of view, its derived from his unlucky irritation at dawn!. The dog issue is not fully settled yet, go settle fully that, then you could start on cats, rats, cochroaches, termites ..perhaps in that order. :rolleyes: All these "irritate" someone, somehow and sometimes..
Irritates only you so far I see, and that gentleman 'Ski', if I'm not wrong. Dog issues?? Who has the means please go settle la. For goodness sake we're discussing about cats here in this thread. Understandable? Or you should take it easy. Easy without suggestive remarks in the first place would be favourable. No one is a racist here or spewing venom in public, mind you. You shouldn't have said what you said earlier. So who is the one spewing venom? And who are the ones who hide behind the scenes never appearing at all, esp. when let's say, monetary and blood donation issues are raised? Orchi is it??



My reply in RED. Thank you.

Nic_of_Time
30-11-2005, 01:19 PM
Originally posted by Bslee
Anyone who doesn't want to experience abandoned or stray animals disturbing your piece of mind!..be my guest and move to some 35th floor of a condo or apartment!. There's always a price to be paid for staying anywhere!.

We were all discussing the cat issue peacefully amidst disagreements, then you throw in the above condescending insult. i see nothing positive in it other than a spring board to stir more trouble.
I take offence and is very cheesed off with the quoted above, especially to 'anyone' members. We were all addressing a genuine community issue here of which i personally have faced a lot problems. If there are rudeness elsewhere, they should be be handled according by the moderator. i will not accept such an abuse here for no reasonable reason.


Originally posted by Bslee
2. Up to this point I'm compelled to be rather blunt!..
You do not have to be the 'Godfather' here.
For the sake of good order and peace, if you do not have better views to contribute, it is best you excuse yourself from this thread, instead of throwing spanners and wet blankets into it. I find it very rude.
You should have complained to the administrator if you think the thread is frivolous, instead of throwing in confrontational statements directed at members.

If your sort of bluntness is acceptable, then it will be anarchy in this forum, especially with this similar sort of typical immature retorts, which any wrecker can throw in..

If don't like mosquitoes, move up to 35th floor..
If you don't like the heat, move to Alaska..
If you cannot stand traffic jams or MPSJ, move out of USJ..
etc.. etc.. and

Any spoilers or hacklers can choose any controversial topic here in this forum and throw in the following spanner,
"Don't waste time discussing, if you don't like this or that, get out of this country.."

Read up "Dessiderata" and let's discuss issues, no matter how minor or insignificant with some peace, harmony and understanding..

Go placidly amid the noise and haste,
and remember what peace there may be in silence.
As far as possible without surrender
be on good terms with all persons.
Speak your truth quietly and clearly;
and listen to others,
even the dull and the ignorant;
they too have their story.

for the full inspirational poem see,
http://hobbes.ncsa.uiuc.edu/desiderata.html

Nic_of_Time
30-11-2005, 01:58 PM
The easiest way to solve any problem.
Simlarly, don't like cats ..


By Leslie Lau
Straits Times
MALAYSIA'S Deputy Internal Security Minister Datuk Noh Omar said yesterday that foreigners who think Malaysia is a 'cruel' country should go home.

read the readers comment below at:
http://www.malaysia-today.net/Blog-e/2005/11/malaysia-cruel-then-go-home-foreigners.htm

CCY
30-11-2005, 02:15 PM
......

Read up "Dessiderata" and let's discuss issues, no matter how minor or insignificant with some peace, harmony and understanding..

Go placidly amid the noise and haste,
and remember what peace there may be in silence.
As far as possible without surrender
be on good terms with all persons.
Speak your truth quietly and clearly;
and listen to others,
even the dull and the ignorant;
they too have their story.

for the full inspirational poem see,
http://hobbes.ncsa.uiuc.edu/desiderata.html

Yo....thanks for this timely reminder that has help me kept my cool for the past quarter of a century.

shamalasp
30-11-2005, 03:31 PM
oh Orchii,
It was you - my husband said he heard "gunshots"!! Hahahahah
Anyway, yes the cats had become a menace - hanging out in my garden as well. And I noticed them sneaking into the back neighbours house :(
Sham!

orchipalar
30-11-2005, 03:36 PM
Originally quoted by Pets=Friends: I don't think a census is necessary at all, if the neighbourhood knows (after all the hoo hah) that we're out to neuter cats and put those beyond saving to sleep, surely they will guard their precious pussy with their life hehe.
For the record, I don't even like cats but surely there must be something the community as a whole can do beside WHINING.
Err...dear Pets=Friends:)...Orchi has given your partial suggestions...some thoughts...sorry it took a bit longer than expected...:)

OK...perhaps ya got a point by suggesting that we should try the best efforts...to trap these freaking strayed cats(Yes...the numbers which affects the other neighbours badly as well...are increasing)...:mad:

BUT perhaps...instead of sending these strayed cats for neutering which could be costlier(Orchi could have better use of the money to donate for more suitable causes)...

May be it's better that...that Orchi or the rest here...would be able to find n suggest...a suitable place where...there could be more strayed-cats-infestation-tolerant neighbourhood...n possibly where Orchi could set the cats free....please???

shamalasp
30-11-2005, 03:37 PM
But honestly, how would you catch them in the first place?
Sham

bslee
30-11-2005, 03:39 PM
We were all discussing the cat issue peacefully amidst disagreements, then you throw in the above condescending insult. i see nothing positive in it other than a spring board to stir more trouble.
I take offence and is very cheesed off with the quoted above,We were all addressing a genuine community issue here of which i personally have faced a lot problems. If there are rudeness elsewhere, they should be be handled according by the moderator. i will not accept such an abuse here for no reasonable reason.

If your sort of bluntness is acceptable, then it will be anarchy in this forum, especially with this similar sort of typical immature retorts, which any wrecker can throw in..


Hi Nic and girl2,
First & foremost, I do NOT take any offence in you folks lambasting me for expressing my own frank thought and view of this topic.

Surely you're aware, ANY forum topic anytime,anywhere in this virtual space can be vulnerable to insults, bold and bravely spoken words where it could invoke disagreement, amass support, or like you say, result in anarchy. Whatever it may be. it exists there for everyone's view. I appreciate your "Godfather" theme, but I happen to prefer Nino Rota's version a lot more. :p

Girl2: I admit I AM a heavy sleeper! :D , having acquired since long ago to tolerate other noises like frequent road screamers, exhaust pipe-less motorbikes, inconsiderate visitors blasting their 3 tone Hella horns and of course, noisy 4 legged critters on the heat and on the loose.

I think you're expecting too much of an ideal home which may be a little hard to come by these days. Perhaps I have missed out saying that you should take my (or other) comments and statement with a pinch of salt.
Oh Oh!..do you think I should tape up my mouth here?.. :cool:

BTW, I've planned myself a retirement place up in the mountains, no mosquitoes, maybe the hum and squeaks of jungle bugs. Afterall I'm fortunate its already there! HONEST, and NO joke!..God willing, if I live long enough to get away from this rat race city!. I think that's a more sensible option to me than attempting catching critters...that I speak for myself!.
Have a nice day folks! :)

orchipalar
30-11-2005, 03:58 PM
Originally quoted by BSLee: Hi Orchi,
I think you're spewing a bit too much venom in public!
Errrrrr!! ...ahem!!!..Its stinks as bad as a racial slur!.
We all have grieviences and tolerance but don't push it to the point of angering some!..
http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/upload/showpost.php?p=99187&postcount=54


Originally quoted by BSLee: Perhaps I have missed out saying that you should take my (or other) comments and statement with a pinch of salt.
Oh Oh!..do you think I should tape up my mouth here?..
Err...BSLee:)...you would actually see fit...to suggest that Orchi should also take your personal attacks n remarks towards Orchi...with a pinch of salt too...???

n after more than 6000 postings in this forum...Orchi had taken a fair share of criticism n pot shots about Orchi's postings...from others too...

Err...but NONE...had ever expressed or implied in any defamatory n malicious manner that...Orchi is a stinking racist?...otherthan you!!?? :mad:

tan_r
30-11-2005, 04:09 PM
Take it easy, Orchi-san ...

girl2
30-11-2005, 04:10 PM
Hi Nic and girl2,

I think you're expecting too much of an ideal home which may be a little hard to come by these days. Perhaps I have missed out saying that you should take my (or other) comments and statement with a pinch of salt.
Oh Oh!..do you think I should tape up my mouth here?.. :cool:


Something wrong with you here or what. Sigh..

You also thought it's a neat idea to tape your mouth? Yes please be my guest and do it from the 34th floor, so I could look down and see you do it. Make sure the tape is huge enough for that mouth.

Or BS, have you ever considered apologising for the remark you've made about Orchi earlier?? NO? Go buy tape. And do it now.

bslee
30-11-2005, 04:12 PM
[url]Err...but NONE...had ever expressed or implied in any defamatory n malicious manner that...Orchi is a stinking racist?...otherthan you!!?? :mad:



You also thought it's a neat idea to tape your mouth? Yes please be my guest and do it from the 34th floor, so I could look down and see you do it. Make sure the tape is huge enough for that mouth.

Or BS, have you ever considered apologising for the remark you've made about Orchi earlier?? NO? Go buy tape. And do it now.

Girl2: :D You don't cease to amaze me!.LOL!..(the 34th floor..see you soon!) Yes Girl2! (with salute!)..apologies fully extended!..

My deepest apologies if I've led you to think I've labeled you as such.
Believe me, perhaps its a bad comparison from my pea sized brain. Sorry ya!..keep cool!. ;)

girl2
30-11-2005, 04:24 PM
PERHAPS Allow me to say this just once!
Anyone who doesn't want to experience abandoned or stray animals disturbing your piece of mind!..be my guest and move to some 35th floor of a condo or apartment!. There's always a price to be paid for staying anywhere!.
There are more important community issues to be addressed than a matter of meowing and cat poo!. :)



I will drink to that.. Amen.

And so, to the above Amen gentlemen.
It's such a delight to have you in this thread just to hear you say Amen. So good. So nice. So quick too.

Anymore from you from where you came from? Amen?

orchipalar
30-11-2005, 04:30 PM
Err...BSLee:)...by instead...setting a good example of you being an elder forumer in here...n respectingly so also in real life...Orchi didn't ask any favours or creed from you...when Orchi re-hightlighted...what Orchi just realised recently that...the same shiity strayed cats problem...has also been affecting NOT only Orchi...BUT also to close neighbouring folks too where Orchi lives...

Still Orchi believed that something good might come out of it by starting this thread....BUT instead YOU shot Orchi down!...for what is clealy seen by others as well...that Orchi is trying to initiate some joint efforts with those that are or are NOT affected by the same freaking problem!

Right you may say...n tell the whole world that...you are at the brink of peaceful n fruitful retirement...taking life easier from now...from your years of hardwork n sweat...folks would appreciate where you are coming from...n they would also wish you well for having to achieve that...err...plainly said in Canton..."you have reached the sea shore..."

BUT we are generally still struggling...n you may have arrogantly forgotten as what you mentioned yourself that there are bigger community issues at hands...but what's the problem of US or Orchi starting to make a change or to do something close to home first....???

girl2
30-11-2005, 04:40 PM
My deepest apologies if I've led you to think I've labeled you as such.
Believe me, perhaps its a bad comparison from my pea sized brain. Sorry ya!..keep cool!. ;)

You are somewhat like the irresponsible cat owner. You've shot left & right & upfront at Orchi so directly and now this kinda apology?

if I've led you to think I've labeled you as such.

Orchipalar, whoever you are, it's your call.

bslee
30-11-2005, 04:57 PM
Err...BSLee:)...by instead...setting a good example of you being an elder forumer in here...n respectingly so also in real life...Orchi didn't ask any favour or creed from you...when Orchi re-hightlighted...what Orchi just realised recently that...the shiity strayed cats problems...has also been affecting NOT only Orchi...BUT also to close neighbouring folks where Orchi lives...

Still Orchi believed that something good might come out of it by starting this thread....BUT instead YOU shot Orchi down!...for what is clealy seen by others as well...that Orchi is trying to initiate some joint efforts with those that are or are NOT affected by the same freaking problem!


Ochi! allow me to answer to you directly.
First & foremost again, I hope you've accepted my earlier apology, maybe in not so many words by I mean it all deeply.

I probably reside some or many kilometers from your residence and I hope that makes me a neighbor too and have experienced the same phenomenon as you've had. What clearly differenciate us here is how you & I view your issue at hand. You see it as an issue, I don't!. I'm sorry if I don't see things your way.


You are somewhat like the irresponsible cat owner. You've shot left & right & upfront at Orchi so directly and now this kinda apology?

Can I advise you refrain being a "batu api" in the matter of apology? Maybe you could write what you think is appropriate and I'll sign on the dotted line!.. :)

Ski
30-11-2005, 05:25 PM
And so, to the above Amen gentlemen.
It's such a delight to have you in this thread just to hear you say Amen. So good. So nice. So quick too.

Anymore from you from where you came from? Amen?

Hello
Whats the problem you have with me? I dont have any with you.. who do you think you are to ask me to reply, thats my perogative. I find this whole episode a waste of time and generating too much of hot air.. dont need to reply to you or anybody in this forum, so please take your problems elsewhere and get off my back or are you trying to pick a quarrel or trying to ruffle my feathers with me too.

This would be my last posting on this matter, okay

girl2
30-11-2005, 05:37 PM
Can I advise you refrain being a "batu api" in the matter of apology? Maybe you could write what you think is appropriate and I'll sign on the dotted line!.. :)

You ask me to write then I must write is it? Now, I'm more interested in you, so to speak. You are really exciting, calling me a batu api. Congrats to myself. I don't mind that as long as I get my message across to your self-called pea-sized brain?? Not me! You said it!

Do you know, Orchipalar could seek approriate compensation to your belittling and damaging remarks on him? You and your defamatory insults. Well, he may or may not exercise the options on legal grounds it's totally up to him. See, he could be someone who does not take remarks like that in a public forum like this so easily. He could choose to be unbelievable, and unforgiving. U have damaged his pride.

girl2
30-11-2005, 05:38 PM
Hello
Whats the problem you have with me? I dont have any with you.. who do you think you are to ask me to reply, thats my perogative. I find this whole episode a waste of time and generating too much of hot air.. dont need to reply to you or anybody in this forum, so please take your problems elsewhere and get off my back or are you trying to pick a quarrel with me too.

This would be my last posting on this matter, okay

Oh don't leave us just yet. I'll come back for you later. Amen.

bslee
30-11-2005, 05:52 PM
Girl2
Perhaps you're now cooking up something bitter for ski? I now wonder how damaging you can be!..no wrong to wonder right?. :D
Have the nerve and audacity to say "Oh don't leave us just yet. I'll come back for you later. Amen"
Gosh!.. :eek:

pcyeoh
30-11-2005, 06:26 PM
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n after more than 6000 postings in this forum...Orchi had taken a fair share of criticism n pot shots about Orchi's postings...from others too...

Err...but NONE...had ever expressed or implied in any defamatory n malicious manner that...Orchi is a stinking racist?...otherthan you!!?? :mad:

This is Orchi credentials as at this moment.
Join Date: 05-03-2004
PostsTotal Posts: 6,061 (9.53 posts per day)

For someone with the above track record to say the above, I must take off my hat for him. In fact if I can take off my head, I will also do that.

tan_r
30-11-2005, 06:30 PM
... In fact if I can take off my head, I will also do that.
LOL .......

kwchang
01-12-2005, 12:32 AM
I must confess, I did not read this thread. Anyway, who in the right mind would think a discussion on cats would end up with some bickering?

So, ladies and gentlemen, please stop all that and get back to being good neighbours. Maybe Orchi and bslee should have a cuppa on Friday night?

I haven't read enuf to see where girl2 came in. But please, just PM me in future, don't try to fight fire with fire. Thank you.

Aiyahhhh... it's past midnight oredi....

GreenBug
01-12-2005, 12:38 AM
I must confess, I did not read this thread. Anyway, who in the right mind would think a discussion on cats would end up with some bickering?

So, ladies and gentlemen, please stop all that and get back to being good neighbours. Maybe Orchi and bslee should have a cuppa on Friday night?

I haven't read enuf to see where girl2 came in. But please, just PM me in future, don't try to fight fire with fire. Thank you.

Aiyahhhh... it's past midnight oredi.... :D

But Mr. Chang, Sir! Dogs and cats normally fight after midnight, right? Well at least the cats.... :D

p.s. I'm posting from a different IP address as I'm in S'pore, pls. do note, thanks.

bslee
01-12-2005, 01:15 AM
I haven't read enuf to see where girl2 came in. But please, just PM me in future, don't try to fight fire with fire. Thank you.

Aiyahhhh... it's past midnight oredi....

Dear KWChang mod,
After you've read all of girl2's previous posts I hope you'd concur with me girl2 deserves to be cautioned. You can find her posts which I observed as backstabbing me, amazingly in another non-related topic which I happen to stumble upon. That's getting out of hand, very nasty of her, seemingly out to boil my blood in the process.
Oh well, I'm drawing the line here and not going to stoop that low in continuing tit for tat with girl2. Cool as I am, I remain!.
Thank you and goodnite. :)

orchipalar
01-12-2005, 05:02 PM
I must confess, I did not read this thread. Anyway, who in the right mind would think a discussion on cats would end up with some bickering?

So, ladies and gentlemen, please stop all that and get back to being good neighbours. Maybe Orchi and bslee should have a cuppa on Friday night?

I haven't read enuf to see where girl2 came in. But please, just PM me in future, don't try to fight fire with fire. Thank you.

Aiyahhhh... it's past midnight oredi....
Err...dear Chang:)...as always Orchi n the rest of the regular TT kaki(forumers n family) would always welcome any forumers to join us during the monthly ritual of TT session at USJ16...n we are more than willing to offer anyone good neighbourly n Muhibbah spirit...to anyone:)

MOYSC
01-12-2005, 10:08 PM
Hi Orchi,

Just happened to bump into this thread as I too had problems with some stray cats in my neighbourhood. Found some DIY cat deterrent techniques over the internet & would like to share it here. Hopefully, some of it works as I've yet to try them myself...

1.Surround an area with a fence (chicken wire etc) that leans in the direction from which the cat will approach. The cat is unable to climb over such an angled fence.

2.Flimsy plastic roll-up fencing placed on top of a fence etc to prevent cats climbing over it.

3.Taut wire or string fitted 10-15 cm above the fence-top makes it difficult for cats to balance on the fence.

4.Specially designed strips of plastic spikes on top of a fence, shed roof, nestbox roof etc to prevent cat from walking on it.

5.Place Ĺ full plastic bottles in borders. This is an old gamekeepers trick light reflection is supposed to deter.

6.Mailshot and other unwanted CDs can be threaded on twine with knots in between to keep them apart. String these across flower beds or hang from trees. The light reflections deter.

7.Spiked tree collar to prevent climbing up a tree.

8.Downward opening cone or a biscuit tin fixed to the pole below the bird table to prevent cat climbing up it. Vaseline or other grease on a smooth pole will also help.

9.Placing clippings from thorny or spiky plants under bird feeders and under bushes will prevent cats from using these areas to stalk birds.

10.There is a new garden plant, Coleus canina, on the market. It is marketed under names Pee-off and Scaredy cat. This plant has a pungent odour that is said to repel cats and other mammals from the garden. It should be available from a number of garden suppliers. (I do not suppose that these are available in M'sia)

11.Scent deterrents will either serve to repel (eg Citronella) or mark a territory (eg Silent Roar). Alternatively, try orange or lemon peel, since cats are not keen on the smell of citrus.

12.Bucket or water pistol full of water will help to chase a cat out of the garden. There is an automated option, the scarecrow, which is attached to a hosepipe, and will deliver a water jet when activated by a motion detector, but be aware that water freezing in the pipes can damage the gadget.

13.An electronic deterrent works on a high frequency that is inaudible to people and birds, and while some other animals can hear it, it is designed to be unpleasant only to cats, and to keep them away from a specific area. Being sound-based, a cat with defective hearing may not be able to hear the sound, and some individual cats including Siamese appear not to respond.

Source: Deterrents for use in gardens wildlife information factsheet (7/02) :)

orchipalar
01-12-2005, 10:31 PM
Err...dear Nina:)...you are a gem...thanks for your infos...Orchi should find some time to access those possiblities...:)

Ahem...meantime...some kind Folks here are already helping Orchi to seek out the 'addresses' to those suitable spots...where some cats lovers...are obviously(in here?)...n naturally very tolerant to the shiity strayed cats problems(they won't see this word to be fit for them)...whereby they could love to hear(as they put it) occasional 'mau tak mau' to be stimulating to their aging urges instead...in the wee hours of the night... :rolleyes:

Err...further more...Orchi n the 'unduly'(as one has put so bluntly) concerned Folks here...could be assuming that...ahem...when the time comes...the ones wouldn't mind us doing them that favour...coz they might even look forward to the possibility of getting...err...the extra bonus of stepping onto them sweet smelling strayed cats' poops on the middle of their own courtyards...backyards n even on their surrounding gardens...:rolleyes:

orchipalar
01-12-2005, 11:18 PM
Orchi was just trying to create an awareness about cat owners who should own up to their cat problem and be in control. Just as they would expect dogs to be caged and controlled. Anything wrong with that? Watch that tongue buddy.Err...dear Girl2:)...in the freaking strayed cats on heat moments...you stucked a foot out for Orchi...n gotten the pot shots from some 'gentlemen'...in here...:rolleyes:

Ahem...BUT not all is lost...coz Orchi gotta better news for you though...

Err...one of Orchi's closest neighbours...living directly opposite Orchi's freaking strayed cats infested home...has informed Orchi that...he has just gotten a big cage...to keep his only cat which he had gotten from a dear friend of his...

Err...he feels that by doing that...his cat would NOT stray out easily...n gotten mixed up...in the ongoing spats of cat orgies...that has been going on around here...

n BTW...he is a Malay(one of Orchi's many Malay close neighours)...living with his family n a few more of his own close relatives... :)

girl2
01-12-2005, 11:55 PM
Err...dear Girl2:)...in the freaking strayed cats on heat moments...you stucked a foot out for Orchi...n gotten the pot shots from some 'gentlemen'...in here...:rolleyes:

Ahem...BUT not all is lost...coz Orchi gotta better news for you though...



Stick to your gun Orchi, because there is nothing worse than doing a ****load of work the whole day and not getting enough sleep.
Been there.

I have been watching you Orchi, and the rest. You have been a good man. Always standing up and doing the right thing, and good men are hard to find. Good on you.

I've always stood for fairness. Itís nothing personal, but I don't feel good about others accusing you for what you are not. I could just keep my mouth shut but I had to stand up for what I believe in.

We shouldnít allow ourselves to be pushed around and made to agree to unreasonable remarks. And thatís why I said the things I said yesterday.
Anyway, my apologies now to BS Lee and Ski who were totally offended. I caution myself, don't me be nasty~nasty..and to buy some tape too.

Time to get up to the 35th floor. Goodnight.

orchipalar
02-12-2005, 11:35 AM
oh Orchii,
It was you - my husband said he heard "gunshots"!! Hahahahah
Anyway, yes the cats had become a menace - hanging out in my garden as well. And I noticed them sneaking into the back neighbours house :(
Sham!Err...dear Shamala:)...in the strayed cats on heat of a moment...Orchi missed your response there...sorry:)

Oh yes...if ya haven't noticed yet...your opposite neighbour too...had bought a cage for keeping their cat...:)

Perhaps...he wouldn't also want his cat to get entangled in the 'cross fires'...in the 'battle' between Orchi...n them strayed cats...abandoned by them freaking previous 'masters':rolleyes:...:)

TQ both...for being an understanding(they really sounded like loud gunshots?:D) n helpful neighbour...n during this school holiday breaks...ahem...should little Orchis be more of a nuisance to you...err...please give Orchi a holla...n Orchi shall treat them each to a couple strokes of spanking up their butts...:D

GreyShadow
02-12-2005, 12:17 PM
Last time used to have lots of problem with the stray cats too... just outside my bedroom is the back garden :( .... and seems like it's their favourite spot around the neighbourhood for their TT session
Days and nights I've been interrupted by them, sleeping, reading, playing games... everything! until I day I got me self a secret weapon -----> water pistol! :D
First I only use normal pipe water to shoot at them... but seems like it's only temporary... after a while they still come back.
So I cooked up a secret concoction... mixing almost every liquid i can find in the kitchen (except those strong chemical lar)... and it works!! :D they have never came back after got shot...
Now no more cats kacau me anymore... since now is living in a 4th floor apartment :D

USJ27Resident
02-12-2005, 05:48 PM
Orchi... careful with what you mess with... them cats might just seek assistance from this CAT-torrist!

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/575/crazycat1tk.gif

...got this from Vikey :D

orchipalar
02-12-2005, 05:52 PM
Orchi... careful with what you mess with... them cats might just seek assistance from this CAT-torrist!

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/575/crazycat1tk.gif

...got this from Vikey :DErr...dear Alexius:)...TQ:)...NOW Folks here could see...obviously!...Orchi has been facing with UPHill battles all along...:p

Ahem...having said that...now...where has Orchi...err...kept the old ....grenade...:o

mon
02-12-2005, 07:41 PM
Orchi... careful with what you mess with... them cats might just seek assistance from this CAT-torrist!

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/575/crazycat1tk.gif

...got this from Vikey :D

Hahahahaha! Alexius you really make me laugh till stomachache! :p

orchipalar
03-12-2005, 12:40 PM
Orchi... careful with what you mess with... them cats might just seek assistance from this CAT-torrist!

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/575/crazycat1tk.gif

...got this from Vikey :DErr...one of them strays(un-armed) came into the house thru Orchi's kitchen last night...n Orchi's maid caught it...

USJ27Resident
05-12-2005, 12:30 AM
Err...one of them strays(un-armed) came into the house thru Orchi's kitchen last night...n Orchi's maid caught it...

Prisoner of war, surrendered ... orrr... this fella gonna be ketchup... "cats-up" :confused: