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zenofeller
18-11-2005, 12:48 PM
Admin note
The link has been removed due to objections and violation of our house rules

kwgoh
18-11-2005, 01:45 PM
The fellow who wrote it must be American or European and have not been to China before. :)

orchipalar
18-11-2005, 02:24 PM
Err...here's hoping there is no malicious content with the link?...coz Orchi's punya firewall...blocked it...for reasons unknown yet:)

Bohong
18-11-2005, 02:33 PM
kwgoh, I agreed with you, the person wrote this must be the stupid frog inside the well.

kress
18-11-2005, 02:39 PM
right... and the writer means to say that none of it happens in "civilized" countries ?
jeeeeez... someone needs to get out of the "tempurung" and smell the real world.

PJS
18-11-2005, 02:47 PM
Beware of malicious links and urls posted by unknown names or TROLLS :)

penangkia
18-11-2005, 03:56 PM
When a country gets more and more important and influential in the global arena, you get people banging it. You only need to type F*** China and you can see worse. Who cares ?..these people are either jealous or sick and most probably both to bother to write a wall of idiotic words. Some racist whites think they have a monopoly on wealth and progress.

I am happy for China and proud of it :cool:

DatinLawa
18-11-2005, 04:46 PM
isn't the zenofeller who started this thread the "author" of this article in zenofeller.com??

PJS
18-11-2005, 04:55 PM
Yes, Datin, this is called self promotion to gather more clicks to his/her site for reasons only known to him/herself. A cheap stunt.

That's why, all forummers, be careful where u click, if his objective is not a just promoting a simple propaganda on his site, u might just get infected with worms, viruses, spywares, malwares, self installed pop-up windows, and what nots.... :eek: Make sure u hv a secure personal firewall, anti-spyware, and up to date anti-virus!

Better ask forum admin to remove this thread.

DatinLawa
18-11-2005, 05:03 PM
in view of his/her location, i assume we're not from the same planet. agree with pjs.

Ski
18-11-2005, 05:04 PM
It would be unwise to open this link... his profile is also crude and vulgar

zenofeller
18-11-2005, 10:06 PM
oh god, where did this collection of prissies come from ?

china is currently stuck in the inquisition times, roughly 1400ad. no amount of bashing me and wailing about inexistent viruses will get you out.

stop with the confucius and mao reading and try some of the "inside the well" literature, there's a reason you have been poor for most of modern history. it's called lacking a clue.

mon
18-11-2005, 10:45 PM
oh god, where did this collection of prissies come from ?



from the thread-starter? :( If you can't handle criticism, don't start it.

orchipalar
19-11-2005, 12:35 AM
oh god, where did this collection of prissies come from ?

china is currently stuck in the inquisition times, roughly 1400ad. no amount of bashing me and wailing about inexistent viruses will get you out.

stop with the confucius and mao reading and try some of the "inside the well" literature, there's a reason you have been poor for most of modern history. it's called lacking a clue.
Err...a BIG bird was heard saying that you could be posting from Boston USA...Zenofeller:)...please enlighten Orchi here...were you born a Chinese descendant?...n living in America now perhaps?

Oh...speaking of being poor...Orchi is a pauper too...but no need to spare Orchi with a couple of dimes....

Please do Orchi a favour by telling what sorta clues that Orchi could be lacking with?

BTW...about the States side...what can you say about 52 millions Americans whom may be relying on social security...would you say the same that they too may be lacking in your so called clues?

zenofeller
19-11-2005, 09:02 AM
yup, i am saying them 50 million bums lack even more of a clue. you can verify it here ( link removed by Admin )

my point still stands, the chinese "government" allowed four people to vote a 5th out of his fortune, and that is not a state. it is simply anarchy with varnish on top.

kwchang
19-11-2005, 10:35 AM
My dear neighbours.
First question to ask - why did Admin allow this zenofeller to announce his obnoxious page? Did the lack-of-sleep one-eye Jack forget to check?

No, I did not forget, and I did read that page...plus a few other pages he has on his website as well. If you thought he was vulgar to the Chinese, read what he wrote about other topics!

Firstly, I read stuff beyond the initial veneer which some of you took offense. What I saw was a very interesting style and an exciting use of language. Never mind if it sounded offensive and brash. Never mind if you don't agree with the viewpoint (I too felt that a number of points were obviously off and stinks as well) but I gotta give credit to his style. I just thought it would be an interesting read.

May we be reminded that I would normally kill such a thread becoz we don't allow for adverts in our Forum pages as in our Rules. However, I do allow if it catches my fancy to share an interesting read. Oh yes, it sounds a lot like a blog. Did you know another of my favourite is Patrick Teoh's blog? Patrick Teoh as some of us know him, is very good with his style and language but zenofeller takes the cake.

By the way, I did check. The IP address pointed to Comcast, (an ISP from the USA no doubt) and a hint of the Boston part. So he/she may actually be from there. I don't know if the zenofella posting to this Forum is the same person as the author of that website since the tone used on this Forum seems so bland by comparison.

zenofeller
19-11-2005, 10:46 AM
i am the exact same person. if you want, i can email to you from the site. i am in massachussetts right now (state, boston is capital), part of my world tour. why does it matter where i post from tho ?

thanks for the positive review, i'll point to your forum from my forum so it's all good. well... sorta.

cheers.

Voter
19-11-2005, 12:40 PM
China not a country? Then the guy from the Bush called President is a war criminal, no international credibility!

zenofeller
19-11-2005, 12:48 PM
no contest.

kwgoh
19-11-2005, 12:58 PM
USA is not a country as well it stands for United STATEs of America, right? (North America) :D

zenofeller
19-11-2005, 01:11 PM
it's not a country, it's really a federation of weasels and foxes trying to decide if meat is a permissible diet. and it's certainly not a nation, but more about that later.

Net Rider
19-11-2005, 02:17 PM
Hey Zeno, get off this forum, this forum is for intellectual discourse, not be bigoted zenophobic gweilos like you.

mon
19-11-2005, 04:24 PM
No, I did not forget, and I did read that page...plus a few other pages he has on his website as well. If you thought he was vulgar to the Chinese, read what he wrote about other topics!



My goodness Chang. You must've missed reading some of Zeno's sickening pages . I regretted having gone there. The 1st page I clicked into was OMG Britney Spears. The link is on his signature. I regard those pics pornographic and very sick. Please, do something. Thank you.

kwgoh
19-11-2005, 04:37 PM
Mon,

You don't have to react with bad feeling to this type of people, let him say what he like. After I read the article and I know he is the owner, I never bother to go into his webpage again.
So best thind is to read and smile :) and ignore him.

SunwayKid
19-11-2005, 06:06 PM
Mon,

You don't have to react with bad feeling to this type of people, let him say what he like. After I read the article and I know he is the owner, I never bother to go into his webpage again.
So best thind is to read and smile :) and ignore him.
And "Don't Feed the Troll". :D

orchipalar
19-11-2005, 09:24 PM
Mon,

You don't have to react with bad feeling to this type of people, let him say what he like. After I read the article and I know he is the owner, I never bother to go into his webpage again.
So best thind is to read and smile :) and ignore him.
Err...on the contrary...regular folks who read it...may ignore him...but then again...we are forgetting that there are kiddies n their parents visiting the forum too...ahem...so how are these folks suppose to take his craps...??? :rolleyes:

orchipalar
19-11-2005, 09:45 PM
... where did this collection of prissies come from ?
Err...look at who's talking...to begin with:rolleyes:

Hey Zeno, get off this forum, this forum is for intellectual discourse, not be bigoted zenophobic gweilos like you.

Err...NetRider:)...Orchi gathers...very likely he is not a qweilo...Orchi thought he might have some interllects...to share with us here...guess from what the rest gathered so far...ahem...he could have a darn BIG sored butt...coming instead?:D

zenofeller
19-11-2005, 10:37 PM
just to make sure we understand eachother, english words, even cuss words have speciffic meanings, they are not perfectly equivalent and interchangeable as you might think.

in this case, prissy = excessively or affectedly prim and proper.

kwchang
19-11-2005, 10:37 PM
My APOLOGIES to my fellow neighbours for this link.
I have removed his signature so hence the objectional link is gone.
I did read some of his posts in that website of his but missed the obscene parts as announced by those who went there.
As we have a rule which disallows hyperlinks to obscene images or websites, I am afraid zenofeller's links have to go. I will also put his access on hold.

Thank you for your views and advice.

wAISEKMAo
20-11-2005, 12:47 AM
just to make sure we understand eachother, english words, even cuss words have speciffic meanings, they are not perfectly equivalent and interchangeable as you might think.

in this case, prissy = excessively or affectedly prim and proper.

why not put it "US is not a real country".

You know why? US is run by a bunch of cowboys who have delusions (perhaps like you), people who want to dominate the world whatever it takes, sending their son dies fighting a crap war while cannot even protect it's citizen down south, spreading and preaching democracy while sending it's people and torture other people. u r probably threatened and cynical that china is not a real country...but tell you what...US is not a real country. It's really a bunch of dowdy cowboys always looking for the "west".

orchipalar
20-11-2005, 09:52 AM
Err...here is nothing...just some comparisons of statistics gathered from the internet...

USA:

GDP per capita(Purchasing Power Parity): USD40,100(2004 estimate)
Unemployment Rate: 5.5%
Population Below Poverty Line: 12%(2004 estimate) or 59 millions population.
Inflation Rate: 2.5%
Reserves of FOREX and Gold: USD 86 Billions.
External Debt: USD 1.5 Trillions.
Public Debt: 65%

CHINA:

GDP per capita(Purchasing Power Parity): USD 5,600(2004 estimate)
Unemployment Rate: 9.8%(2004 estimate) Urban areas
Unemployment Rate: 20% Rural areas
Population Below Poverty Line: 2%(2004 estimate) or 30 millions population.
Inflation Rate: 4.1%
Reserves of FOREX n Gold: USD 610 Billions.
External Debt: USD 233.3 Billions.
Public Debt: 31.4%

MALAYSIA:

GDP per capita(Purchasing Power Parity): USD 9,700(2004 estimate)
Unemployment Rate: 3%(2004 estimate)
Population Below Poverty Line: 8%(1998 estimate) or 2 millions population.
Inflation Rate: 1.3%
Reserves of FOREX n Gold: USD 55.5 Billions.
External Debt: USD 54 Billions. OR MYR 208 Billions Ringgits.
Public Debt: 45.4%

SINGAPORE:

GDP per capita(Purchasing Power Parity): USD 27,800(2004 estimate)
Unemployment Rate: 3.4%(2004 estimate)
Population Below Poverty Line: NONE
Inflation Rate: 1.7%
Reserves of FOREX n Gold: USD 112.8 Billions.
External Debt: USD 19.4 Billions.
Public Debt: 102%

mon
20-11-2005, 09:55 AM
USA:
Reserves of FOREX and Gold: USD 86 Billions.
External Debt: USD 1.5 Trillions.
Public Debt: 65%

CHINA:
Reserves of FOREX n Gold: USD 610 Billions.
External Debt: USD 233.3 Billions.
Public Debt: 31.4%




:eek: :p Good find Orchi. Good morning.

orchipalar
20-11-2005, 10:07 AM
:eek: :p Good find Orchi. Good morning.

Err...Good Morning Mon:)...here's something more scary...n by far...they are the RICHEST nation...in the whole world...without any debts:p

JAPAN:

Reserves of foreign exchange and gold: USD 664.6 billion (2003 estimate)
Debt - external: NONE (2002 est.)

orchipalar
20-11-2005, 10:26 AM
MALAYSIA:

GDP per capita(Purchasing Power Parity): USD 9,700(2004 estimate)
Unemployment Rate: 3%(2004 estimate)
Population Below Poverty Line: 8%(1998 estimate) or 2 millions population.
Inflation Rate: 1.3%
Reserves of FOREX n Gold: USD 55.5 Billions.
External Debt: USD 54 Billions. OR MYR 208 Billions Ringgits.
Public Debt: 45.4%

SINGAPORE:

GDP per capita(Purchasing Power Parity): USD 27,800(2004 estimate)
Unemployment Rate: 3.4%(2004 estimate)
Population Below Poverty Line: NONE
Inflation Rate: 1.7%
Reserves of FOREX n Gold: USD 112.8 Billions.
External Debt: USD 19.4 Billions.
Public Debt: 102%

Err...who calls Singaporeans as Kia Su(s)...???

Err...or should we NOT call ourselves as BOH CHAI SI...???

mon
20-11-2005, 10:37 AM
Err...Good Morning Mon:)...here's something more scary...n by far...they are the RICHEST nation...in the whole world...without any debts:p


So what would George do now being outbeaten almost tenfold by Japan..:eek: :p Thanks for the interesting facts Orchi.

orchipalar
20-11-2005, 10:37 AM
yup, i am saying them 50 million bums lack even more of a clue. you can verify it here ( link removed by Admin )

my point still stands, the chinese "government" allowed four people to vote a 5th out of his fortune, and that is not a state. it is simply anarchy with varnish on top.
Err...perhaps that...Zenofella...could do a study about Malaysia...n about Malaysians...instead of the Chinese:D

Err...once he is conclusive about his findings about US n now things are done in Malaysia...then perhaps...the Admin. might allow n reinstate...his posting privileges...with ONE condition???:D

Ahem...that he speaks only about our beloved nation...so called now a days...MALAYSIA BOLEH...! :D

mon
20-11-2005, 10:41 AM
Err...once he is conclusive about his findings about US n now things are done in Malaysia...then perhaps...the Admin. might allow n reinstate...his posting privileges...with ONE condition???:D


:mad: :mad: :mad: but o~k :D

orchipalar
20-11-2005, 10:49 AM
Err...knowing about it is one thing...but how n what WE do about it...in here especially...now should make a BIG difference!...yes Zenofella?

Ahem...A LOT of shiits are happening...everywhere in this freaking human infested world...

Why don't you worry about the US of A...n DO SOMETHING more positive instead...since you are having your sored butt...sitting prrrretty n residing there now...err...n let the remaining 1,400,000,000 or so Chinese handle their own problems...with their own BEST ways that they have known how...for the last 5000 years of civilization...:rolleyes:

fatslab
20-11-2005, 11:11 AM
Err...once he is conclusive about his findings about US n now things are done in Malaysia...then perhaps...the Admin. might allow n reinstate...his posting privileges...with ONE condition???:D

Ahem...that he speaks only about our beloved nation...so called now a days...MALAYSIA BOLEH...! :D

Then China will accuse us of harbouring "Zenofella" wor.... :D :D :D :D

orchipalar
20-11-2005, 11:54 AM
Then China will accuse us of harbouring "Zenofella" wor.... :D :D :D :D
Heh heh...they might not...as long as that Zenofella...is posting from Boston...:D

GreenBug
20-11-2005, 03:00 PM
why not put it "US is not a real country".We should not stoop to the low level of others just to prove a point. In any case, the other 230 millions of Americans are not represented by this one weasel. :D

Net Rider
21-11-2005, 09:07 AM
You know, people who are obviously anti-social, extremist and exudes hatred in their thoughts and words are usually socially deprived.

Maybe Zeno was an abandoned illegimate child, maybe he was sexually abused and exploited as a child, hence his unconsumable hatred and nastiness. We should not condemn him anymore, but pity him, unfortunately, we can do nothing to help him, and obviously the US doesn't seem to notice or care about him at all, that's why he is reaching out to us.

SunwayKid
21-11-2005, 09:45 AM
That zeno fella is already banned and can't really respond to any comments that any one made. Why can't we show that this community is magnanimous enough not to take any more pot shots at him/her when that person can't respond anymore? :)

orchipalar
21-11-2005, 10:02 AM
That zeno fella is already banned and can't really respond to any comments that any one made. Why can't we show that this community is magnanimous enough not to take any more pot shots at him/her when that person can't respond anymore? :)
Err...coz quite possibly...he or she could be back with another nick... :)

SunwayKid
21-11-2005, 11:34 AM
Err...coz quite possibly...he or she could be back with another nick... :)

Yes.......but we have not seen any sign of that yet. If we continue to tempt him to come back to respond, wouldn't that make a mockery of banning him /her in the first place. :)

mon
21-11-2005, 11:55 AM
Yes.......but we have not seen any sign of that yet. If we continue to tempt him to come back to respond, wouldn't that make a mockery of banning him /her in the first place. :)

Pls don't mind my interruption. I guess both of you have some valid points there. But I know what Orchi is getting at..he's just making sure that zenofella doesn't come back with more stunts and link pornographic pics to harm de readers (esp. young ones). And Sunway you are liberal, sure Zenofella could come back but Chang needs to filter him first but I know that's a difficult task. Perhaps we could all help to keep an eye on ppl like that..this is indeed the best forum in de world.. :) by far..

Net Rider
21-11-2005, 03:16 PM
Sunway Kid,

Are you feeling pity for poor Zeno, frankly, I feel sorry for him too, but.... tough love brother, a guy has to hit bottom before he can come back from the abyss.
I don't think Zeno fellow has hit bottom yet.

I'm a liberal too, I believe in forgiving, but to be forgiven the guy has to ask to be forgiven, and to know what he has to be forgiven for. Right now, I don't think Zeno has a clue.

wAISEKMAo
22-11-2005, 12:08 AM
MALAYSIA:

GDP per capita(Purchasing Power Parity): USD 9,700(2004 estimate)
Unemployment Rate: 3%(2004 estimate)
Population Below Poverty Line: 8%(1998 estimate) or 2 millions population.
Inflation Rate: 1.3%
Reserves of FOREX n Gold: USD 55.5 Billions.
External Debt: USD 54 Billions. OR MYR 208 Billions Ringgits.
Public Debt: 45.4%

SINGAPORE:

GDP per capita(Purchasing Power Parity): USD 27,800(2004 estimate)
Unemployment Rate: 3.4%(2004 estimate)
Population Below Poverty Line: NONE
Inflation Rate: 1.7%
Reserves of FOREX n Gold: USD 112.8 Billions.
External Debt: USD 19.4 Billions.
Public Debt: 102%

wow...thanks orchipalar for the stats!

I didn't not for being kiasu is really better than talk big but boh chai si.

The stats do tells us singapore are so better managed and efficient than us.

We should be shame as we have so much resources while singapore have nothing...probably hyflux with it's sea water and few millions of piss to be recycle.

But really, we should be shame that we mismanages our resources.

expat1609
22-11-2005, 12:22 AM
hmmm... are those unemployment rates true ???
how do they determine it, who is unemployed ??

anybody knows, kindly let me know ;)