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girl2
12-11-2005, 04:16 PM
Can we live with the fact that men run the world, because women run relationships.

Women in general are used to getting seconds. Alright, I expect fumes and outrage from most of you who are reading this. But hear me out first, please.

What I mean by that is that women choose to settle for less than what they want. In this country, men have the power. Look around you, how many women hold the top positions and stay there? How many women make as much money as men do?

Consider teaching and nursing, two professions primarily occupied by women, what percentage of men are in the profession and what percentage of those are in charge?

How many men choose to stay home with the children while their wives work and support the family? You get the idea. Granted there are many more women in positions of authority, in medicine, the law, entrepreneurs,real estate, finance, business than ever before, but if you are going to be honest with yourself, it's still a man's world.

What do you think.

Timo
12-11-2005, 04:48 PM
Good discussion.

I have thought about this issue every now and then. Personally, besides anatomical differences, I don't treat women different from men and vice versa. In fact, many times in my life I have been accused of being a big bully because I treat women the same as men. In sports, I am as rough to a woman as I would be to a man. I never open the door for women as I don't want women to open the door for me.

Having said that, in recent years I have changed my mind somewhat.

Anyhow, I somewhat agree with you that its still a 'man's world', in that occupation wise, they dominate positions of power. However, that doesn't mean that women don't get what they want. I firmly believe that any woman who really wants to be in a position of power (occupation wise) will have the same opportunity as a similar man. I believe the reason there aren't many women in these positions is that women simply don't want to, perhaps their priorities lie elsewhere. Perhaps even the concept of 'power' is a male concoction, a word used to describe our primal urges to be the 'alpha male'.

But I also believe that women have more subtle ways of gaining 'influence' and 'power'. For example, they are the ones who give birth - to me there is no greater power than the power to give life (although I must admit they do need a male to do this). Usually, they are the ones who have influence over children as they have more contact hours with them. Plus, everyone knows children love mommy's more!

Also, I have this weird notion that men are really stupid, and women are very cunning, even though no one consciously knows this. Its almost like women can pull these invisible strings, pulling men to whichever direction they want. I think I have identified one of these strings : the 'manja'.
But then, perhaps I am just being silly!

Choon1980
12-11-2005, 05:07 PM
Can we live with the fact that men run the world, because women run relationships.

Women in general are used to getting seconds. Alright, I expect fumes and outrage from most of you who are reading this. But hear me out first, please.

What I mean by that is that women choose to settle for less than what they want. In this country, men have the power. Look around you, how many women hold the top positions and stay there? How many women make as much money as men do?

*snip*
If you want women to run the world, then you'll have to let men run relationships. You can't have it both ways.

girl2
12-11-2005, 05:09 PM
Good reply Timo. Nah, you are not silly Timo. How could you say that when it's a truth. And it's not just your notion. It's mine too. Generally, Men are indeed stupified and women cunning, as in other word; manja? To get whatever they want?

On the other hand, women, being in charge of their relationship, should raise the bar a little on what to expect from their relationships. What I meant earlier by women being used to settling is that they don't or seldom ask.
Their first inclination was to accept, until they come to realization.

Much of women's acceptance of second-class treatment is their own fault, because they don't even ask for it to be different.

girl2
12-11-2005, 05:11 PM
If you want women to run the world, then you'll have to let men run relationships. You can't have it both ways.

You are entitled to your own opinion. Likewise to mine too. We are in a discussion. If we could have it both ways, I would not be here speaking to you now.

girl2
13-11-2005, 09:51 PM
Anyhow, I somewhat agree with you that its still a 'man's world', in that occupation wise, they dominate positions of power. However, that doesn't mean that women don't get what they want. I firmly believe that any woman who really wants to be in a position of power (occupation wise) will have the same opportunity as a similar man. I believe the reason there aren't many women in these positions is that women simply don't want to, perhaps their priorities lie elsewhere. Perhaps even the concept of 'power' is a male concoction, a word used to describe our primal urges to be the 'alpha male'.

B

We are, different entities with different needs and balance is what I've been talking about. Men are always symbolized as the producers (the alpha as suggested by Timo) and women as the receivers.

I believe, the most meaningful relationship, one that 'works' is that of both partners paying attention to each other and to what is happening in the relationship. Yes, easier said than done. Any woman, going into doubt, or settling for seconds, the lesser than what she wants is the beginning of the destruction of the fragile balance of the relationship.

Thank you.

JackRyan1975
14-11-2005, 09:42 AM
A woman is to be the new Chancellor of Germany. Another woman was elected President of Liberia. Not to mention other current women heads of state such as The Phillipines, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh. Even 3-year old Princess Aiko has a good shot at sitting on the Chrysanthemum Throne in Japan. In the US alone, many women hold top political and business positions. Arguments of gender inequality is not in vogue anymore as it's more a matter of women's choice whether they want to be an achiever or not.

orchipalar
14-11-2005, 10:26 AM
A woman is to be the new Chancellor of Germany. Another woman was elected President of Liberia. Not to mention other current women heads of state such as The Phillipines, Sri Lanka and Bangladesh. Even 3-year old Princess Aiko has a good shot at sitting on the Chrysanthemum Throne in Japan. In the US alone, many women hold top political and business positions. Arguments of gender inequality is not in vogue anymore as it's more a matter of women's choice whether they want to be an achiever or not.

Err...dear JackRyan:)...has got a good point...n as Orchi sees it...women came into the 'career scenes'...relatively a lot later than men...BUT they are fast becoming n catching up to be...err...equally on the TOP of the world very soon...:)

Choon1980
14-11-2005, 12:38 PM
You are entitled to your own opinion. Likewise to mine too. We are in a discussion. If we could have it both ways, I would not be here speaking to you now.

Exactly how did my opinion offend you? Wouldn't it be fair that if you want A, you should give up B and vice versa? Then again, the fact is that you already admitted that if women were wearing the pants at running the world as well as running relationships, you wouldn't have a problem right now. That sounds unfair and selfish.

Since when did women have to settle for seconds in anything? Your gender always had first picks whenever it comes to choosing which guy you want as a boyfriend/wife. It's just your fault if you happen to choose an abusive drug-pushing wife-beater over someone else who would be nice, loyal and faithful. Then again, which woman would want a guy who's "predictable" and "too nice" and follows (god forbid!) the laws of decency when it comes to treating women? They all want men who's "adventurous" and "full of confidence".

As for the "running the world" part, JackRyan pretty much nailed it. I'll add two names though: Sonia Ghandi and Condoleeza Rice. One almost became the Prime Minister of India, while the other helps invade other countries.

Actually, come to think of it, I was wrong. Women already run relationships and the world. Gender equality? What a bunch of crock.

orchipalar
14-11-2005, 12:55 PM
As for the "running the world" part, JackRyan pretty much nailed it. I'll add two names though: Sonia Ghandi and Condoleeza Rice. One almost became the Prime Minister of India, while the other helps invade other countries.

Err...much of the mighty British Empire... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Empire)was significantly ruled by the Queens...n NO MAN has ever become the longest serving Prime Minister of Britain...otherthan Margaret Thatcher... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Thatcher)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/state/monarchs_leaders/pm_and_pol_tl.shtml

newbies
14-11-2005, 01:08 PM
Your gender always had first picks whenever it comes to choosing which guy you want as a boyfriend/wife. It's just your fault if you happen to choose an abusive drug-pushing wife-beater over someone else who would be nice, loyal and faithful. Then again, which woman would want a guy who's "predictable" and "too nice" and follows (god forbid!) the laws of decency when it comes to treating women? They all want men who's "adventurous" and "full of confidence".



well, there is a saying that men who have rich father-in-laws are brilliant....men who have poor father-in-law in stupid................. :rolleyes:

gnehkgnep
14-11-2005, 01:23 PM
well, there is a saying that men who have rich father-in-laws are brilliant....men who have poor father-in-law in stupid................. :rolleyes:

Who's saying may I know......just curious.......a brilliant man should not only have rich father-in-law but a whole lot more........but it doesn't make a man less brilliant even if his father-in-law is poor......i have seen many who managed to become somebody even with a poor father-in-law.......stupid or not it's for me to judge.......u think for yourself :D

Net Rider
14-11-2005, 03:25 PM
I wish I could be a woman; because then, less would be expected of me. All I have to do is be reasonably intelligent, take good care of my appearance, be devoted and hear what my other half says, and I know I will be wanted and be secure in the love of my partner.
Unfortunately, I am a man, I am expected to be the breadwinner, expected to protect my other half, expected to be strong rescue the fair damsels and expected to not only be the head of the family, but look the head of the family, being macho and all that.
Oh! how I envy you my sweet young friend.

DatinLawa
14-11-2005, 03:56 PM
think twice before you are granted the wish, net rider, unless you are lucky to be a rich man's woman... because you are expected to be also the washing machine, the cook, the alarm clock, the iron, the vacuum cleaner, the due dates (of all utility bills) reminder, the baby sitter, the accountant, the household inventory keeper, the coffee maker, the birthday reminder (of all family members including your in-laws'), the housekeeper, the household income contributor, and a whole lot more... (not everyone wants a maid or can afford a maid)

are you ready for all that?? or just stick to whoever you are now, being the head / man of the family and enjoy being the leader giving orders... and having the privilege of telling everyone that you are the one supporting the family, and that you can sit infront of the tv watching your football replay while your wife is ironing your clothes after a long day of baby sitting and preparing your meals? and yet you are feeling perfectly fine with it??

dun ever start a war between men and women, it's going to be nasty.

everyone of us has a role to play and we should all start to appreciate the existance of others, not to compare who has an easier life. can we say if the woman is contributing to the household income then the man and woman should both share the responsibilities of the family equally??

orchipalar
14-11-2005, 04:07 PM
Err...Orchi stands to be corrected...every now n then...a man wouldn't mind to share...or relinquish...the following...:D

1. When the car breaks down...who she calls hoping to fix the problem?
2. When the tyre is flat...who she calls hoping to fix the flat?
3. When the roof is leaking...who she calls hoping to fix the leak?
4. When the jamban or longkang is sumbat...who she calls hoping to fix the problem?
5. When the aircon or washing machine is down...who she calls hoping to fix the problem?
6. When the TV reception is poor...who she calls hoping to fix the problem?
7. When she orders pizza...who she expects would deliver it?
8. When she calls a cab...who she expects would drive it?
9. When she travels in an airplane...who she expects would fly it?
10. When she expects her mail...who she expects would deliver it?
11. When she reports a fire...who she expects would fight it?
12. When she experts her morning paper...who she expects would deliver it?
13. When she gets married in church...who she expects would witness the marriage vows?
14. When she wants to marry...who she expects to be married with?
15. When she wants her garbage disposed...who she expects would collect it?
16. When she yells for her Daddy...who she expects would answer her?
17. When she yells for help...who she expects would protect her?
18. When she needs affection...who she expects would provide her?
19. When she goes to war...who she expects would battle it out?
20. When she yearns for flowers...who she expects would give it?
21. When she yearns to hear sweet-nothing...who she expects would whisper it?

Ahem...any further additions or comments from the men?...TQ:)

orchipalar
14-11-2005, 04:25 PM
dun ever start a war between men and women, it's going to be nasty

everyone of us has a role to play and we should all start to appreciate the existance of others, not to compare who has an easier life.

Err...very well said DatinLawa...:)

gnehkgnep
14-11-2005, 04:30 PM
I have nothing to add....just to listen and apply it at home.....hahaha :D
This if handle well will be quite a good education for everyone.......i luv ya opinion..... :rolleyes: :D

DatinLawa
14-11-2005, 04:33 PM
orchi, for you daring...

1. When the car breaks down...who she calls hoping to fix the problem?
the machanic (no gender specific)
2. When the tyre is flat...who she calls hoping to fix the problem?
the AAM (no gender specific)
3. When the roof is leaking...who she calls hoping to fix the problem?
someone from the yellowpages (no gender specific)
4. When the jamban or longkang is sumbat...who she calls hoping to fix the problem?
the plumber (no gender specific)
5. When the aircon or washing machine is down...who she calls hoping to fix the problem?
the dealer who sold you the maching machine (am sure you as a man wouldn't be able to fix it, unless that's your profession)
6. When the TV reception is poor...who she calls hoping to fix the problem?
Astro
7. When she orders pizza...who she expects would deliver it?
pizzahut, domino (NO gender specific, can't help it if guys love to take up that job)
8. When she calls a cab...who she expects would drive it?
of coz the driver (and definitely NO gender specific)
9. When she travels in an airplane...who she expects would fly it?
doesnt matter
10. When she expects her mail...who she expects would deliver it?
yahoo, hotmail, gmail or the "yiu chai" (in mandarin, dun get naughty on this one)
11. When she reports a fire...who she expects would fight it?
the ahli bomba
12. When she experts her morning paper...who she expects would deliver it?
the agent
13. When she gets married in church...who she expects would witness the marriage vows?
dun get religious on this one
14. When she wants to marry...who she expects to be married with?
someone she loves (dun discriminate)
15. When she wants her garbage disposed...who she expects would collect it?
the rubbish collector (unless you think it's only the man who has the calibre to do it)
16. When she yells for her Daddy...who she expects would answer her?
of coz the dad, not because he's the man but because she is YELLING for him... the same goes to yelling for her dog, she would expect the doggie to answer her
17. When she yells for help...who she expects would protect her?
someone who can protect her, mother is not a man
18. When she needs affection...who she expects would provide her?
someone she loves
19. When she goes to war...who she expects would battle it out?
if she decides to go to war, of coz herself lah... (not quite understand this one)
20. When she yearns for flowers...who she expects would give it?
someone she likes
21. When she yearns to hear sweet-nothing...who she expects would whisper it?
the love of her life

orchipalar
14-11-2005, 05:17 PM
Err...here's hoping it would go for the ladies...who wouldn't mind also to share...or relinquish...the following...:D

1. When he is hungry for meals at home...who he expects would cook it?
1a. When his throat is dry while at home...who he expects would pour n serve a drinks?
1b. When the dishes are dirty...who he expects would do the dishes?
1c. When the house is messy...who he expects would clear it?
1d. When the meal is served at home...who he expects would get the forknspoons...or pass him the rice?
2. When his clothings are dirty...who he expects would do the laundry?
2a. When his pants is torn...who he expects to sew it?
3. When he misplaced some items at home...who he expects would look for it?
4. When his children is not feeling well...who he expects would look after n get them to see the doctor?
4a. When the baby is crying...who he expects would attend to the needs?
5. When his children do homeworks...who he expects would tuitor it?
6. When he is not feeling well at home...who he expects would look after him?
7. When the mother in-law comes to visit...who he expects would entertain her?
8. When his male friends come over to watch a TV sporting match...who he expects would serve the drinks n tit bits?
9. When the party is over...who he expects would clean the mess?
10. When the toothpaste tube n toilet tissue roll is empty...who he expects to replenish it?
11. When his muscle is aching...who he expects would give him a good massage?
12. When his flower pots are dry...who he expects would water them?
13. When the cooking gas cylinder is empty...who he expects would call to order for replacement?
14. When his ego is crushed...who he expects would re-asssure him?
15. When he looks into the mirror every morning...who he expects would compliment him on his beer-belly n handsome looks?
15a. When he is going out till late at night...for golf or out on a fishing trip...who he expects would look after the home n kids?
16. When he comes home drunk n vomit all over the bed...who he expects would clean the mess up?
17. When the dogs n cats do their bizness...who he expects to clear the shiits?
18. When his shoes are dirty n dull...who he expects to clean n shine them?

Ahem...any ladies wanna add or comment further to the list?:)

DatinLawa
14-11-2005, 05:24 PM
orchi, for you daring...

i mean "darling" not "daring"

Ski
14-11-2005, 05:39 PM
Fo me its still a woman's world..damn it!!! 90% of the day we think and dream about them.

CCY
14-11-2005, 06:45 PM
Fo me its still a woman's world..damn it!!! 90% of the day we think and dream about them.

I'll still have to face 80% of them while at work....:eek:...agreed with that statement.....

USJ27Resident
14-11-2005, 09:24 PM
anecdote for the moment:

"all married men go to heaven.... gospel truth!"

why???

"because they have experienced hell from the wife .... aka a woman! "

... remember the old saying, hell hath no fury like a woman scorned!

Net Rider
15-11-2005, 08:16 AM
dun ever start a war between men and women, it's going to be nasty.

au contraire, my gracious Datin, it was not me who started anything, its was Girl2 who started this thread, and I was only trying to point out the irony of things. It is obvious that not all men are suited to be leaders but some women of temperament and will, someone like yourself, who are more suited for leadership, and yet society condemns us to hold the torch and take the lead, and when we fail, woe becomes us. (you know what I mean, don't you guys?).

newbies
15-11-2005, 09:01 PM
Fo me its still a woman's world..damn it!!! 90% of the day we think and dream about them.

yeah coz do you know that 99% of men's braincells are tuned to sex...that's why they think about women most of the time....

but then again, with the transexual marriage going and all, guess that scientists should restudy men and confirm whether that 99% is really sex or otherwise ...ha ha :D

mon
17-11-2005, 11:26 PM
I know what all of you meant and I loved reading all the information from this thread. It exposes some interesting thoughts about how men and women think..differently. However, I do agree it's still a man's world..and men still rule very much..the world..but you see, behind every successful man, there is always a woman..not ruling the man but giving him all the support he needs, peace, love and contentment ...something like that lar..

I don't think I wanna change any of that, or change my partner into a kitty kat or puppy dog..I want to grow old with a man of substance, a man who would take care of me...I'm not saying by agreeing if it's still a man's world; the man could rule me...not to rule me, but to be there to share his life..You see, no one's perfect..ruling each other kills a relationship. If my partner wants to change some bad habits for me, he has to want to do that on his own, not because I'm urging the change. Sorry for the digression.. Men/Women discussions and views are always very sensitive but I hope my few cents was worth reading..

orchipalar
18-11-2005, 12:10 AM
behind every successful man, there is always a woman..

Err...it should be...behind every man...there is always a woman...err...Mom for a start...:)

mon
18-11-2005, 12:27 AM
behind every successful man, there is always a woman..

Err...it should be...behind every man...there is always a woman...err...Mom for a start...:)

Yes..behind every man..there is always a woman..and mom is more than a woman..to me.

sly
18-11-2005, 01:00 AM
i have no comment on the issue except i felt the title of the thread is kinda offending... :)

newbies
18-11-2005, 12:09 PM
title is actually complementing men...

oh, i forgot,...the ones that's got sooo excited upon compliment is women :D

orchipalar
18-11-2005, 12:31 PM
Err...was driving when Orchi heard over the radio...a caller called the station to express his belief...that

"woman falls for what she hears..but man falls for what he sees" :)

newbies
18-11-2005, 04:30 PM
Err...was driving when Orchi heard over the radio...a caller called the station to express his belief...that

"woman falls for what she hears..but man falls for what he sees" :)

does the saying women want love ; men want sex comes after that ....or before that :D

Ski
18-11-2005, 04:53 PM
Err...was driving when Orchi heard over the radio...a caller called the station to express his belief...that

"woman falls for what she hears..but man falls for what he sees" :)

I also think some women fall for what they see...why do they drool when they see Brad Pitt or Shah Rukh Khan :p

DatinLawa
18-11-2005, 05:08 PM
I also think some women fall for what they see...why do they drool when they see Brad Pitt or Shah Rukh Khan :p

i fall for what i see then followed by what i hear just to make sure... :)

orchipalar
18-11-2005, 07:42 PM
sec·re·tar·y Audio pronunciation of "secretary" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (skr-tr)
n. pl. sec·re·tar·ies

1. A person employed to handle correspondence, keep files, and do clerical work for another person or an organization.
2. An officer who keeps records, takes minutes of the meetings, and answers correspondence, as for a company.
3. An official who presides over an administrative department of state.
4. A desk with a small bookcase on top.

Err...accordingly...in most dictionaries...the word 'secretary' defines no gender specific...:)

Err...but generally...a secretary is almost surely be construed as of a female gender...:)

orchipalar
18-11-2005, 11:56 PM
i fall for what i see then followed by what i hear just to make sure... :)
Err...that would be a norm...for both genders...while shopping :)

Net Rider
19-11-2005, 02:07 PM
I happened to come across this article which I saved because it was unusual and I forgot about. It is relevant to this thread and should be enlightening for both sexes. Here it is;

It's a woman's world, moans Michael Buerk
By Richard Alleyne
(Filed: 16/08/2005)

Michael Buerk, the veteran BBC newsreader, has launched a tirade against what he believes is the all-pervading influence of women in society, claiming that men have been reduced to little more than "sperm donors".


Buerk, the former presenter of The Nine O'Clock News whose report on Ethiopia inspired Live Aid, said that life was now lived "according to women's rules" and that traditional male traits had been marginalised.

In an interview with The Radio Times, he cited the decline of the manual workforce as an example of the trend as well as the number of women in top jobs at the BBC and other media outlets.

Buerk, who now presents BBC World and recently attacked some of his fellow news presenters for being overpaid "lame brains", complained that the "shift in the balance of power between the sexes" has gone too far and we needed to "admit the problem".

"Life is now being lived according to women's rules," he said. "The traits that have traditionally been associated with men - reticence, stoicism, single-mindedness - have been marginalised.

"The result is that men are becoming more like women. Look at the men who are being held up as sporting icons - David Beckham and, God forbid, Tim Henman."

Buerk cited females in the top jobs in the BBC as an example, saying "these are the people who decide what we see and hear".

He said: "Look at the changes in the workplace. There is no manufacturing industry any more; there are no mines; few vital jobs require physical strength.

"We have lots of jobs that require people skills and multi-tasking - which women are a lot better at."

The newsreader, who will also air his views on a new Channel Five series called Don't Get Me Started! is gaining a reputation for grumbling. As well as criticising his fellow presenters he also attacked London winning the Olympic Games claiming it would lead to "years of misery".

He said some changes had been for the good, but added: "What are the men left with? All they are is sperm donors, and most women aren't going to want an unemployable sperm donor loafing around and making the house look untidy.

"They are choosing not to have a male in the household."

Buerk said that when he started making the programme he "came across what I considered a very personal example of the changes that have taken place".

He said: "Almost all the big jobs in broadcasting were held by women - the controllers of BBC1 television and Radio 4 for example."

orchipalar
19-11-2005, 10:58 PM
Err...as for barbers...these days...they are referred to as hairdressers...

Ahem...while fewer male still ply the profession as barbers...there are more females being hairdressers...

Err...about teachers...these days...there are less male take up teaching...err...mostly it's a female job...

Err...nurses were regarded as those who tend to the patients at the medical clinics or hospitals...they are now mostly regarded as females...coz a friend was recently married to a nurse...ahem...so he says... :)

simon_tan
20-11-2005, 12:02 AM
because you are expected to be also the washing machine, the cook, the alarm clock, the iron, the vacuum cleaner, the due dates (of all utility bills) reminder, the baby sitter, the accountant, the household inventory keeper, the coffee maker, the birthday reminder (of all family members including your in-laws'), the housekeeper, the household income contributor, and a whole lot more... (not everyone wants a maid or can afford a maid)

Wow... just reading this quote reminds me of my dearest wife. Not the whole quote, but the general reading of that passage. I always wondered how she can do that - remember dates - bills, birthdates, anything !

I can hardly remember the date today (without my watch).

Guys, they (women) are playing with us. I am certain they 'allow' us to feel in charge, but they run this world. Being in IT, we are like single tasking machines, while they are already at the multi-core, multi-processing level. We have no chance !!

Let's be politicians. Let's all marry them, form an alliance, and together have peace on earth. I've done my part, now you.

mon
20-11-2005, 09:20 AM
Do you realise, we've always been living in a world of man made rules? I can't determine all these rules are accurate or justified, but without most of them, there would be no order to start with..

It makes more sense to me that it's still a man's world..or male dominated world..in a good sense..tho both sexes have been accorded the equal rights and values.

But please don't get me wrong here, this (male superiority?) is not to be confused with male power..I guess it's just a symbolic order into which we human are born and made..

Women, on the other hand, are angels sent from above.. :p

PeterHng
20-11-2005, 01:16 PM
Women, on the other hand, are angels sent from above.. :p

Amen and amen .... :D :p :)

orchipalar
23-11-2005, 10:04 AM
Err...Orchi leaves this thread...with this quote from a world famous man...

Clever and attractive women do not want to vote; they are willing to let men govern as long as they govern men...by George Bernard Shaw... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Bernard_Shaw) :)

girl2
23-11-2005, 10:09 AM
Thank you Orchipalar :)

mlm
23-11-2005, 11:26 AM
Well quoted Orchi... What we are going to do without Orchi huh ... :) ;)

Ski
23-11-2005, 02:32 PM
You women should be proud of Frau Merkel she is the newly elected Chancellor Of Germany and the first woman to lead Europe's biggest economy. She is only 51 years and she is the first person from the former communists East to rule Germany.

So who says its still a mans world..times are changing!!

newbies
26-11-2005, 01:56 PM
guess it boils down to what we have up there...(in the brain???)

we need the best of both genders..rite :)

gnehkgnep
26-11-2005, 02:58 PM
And there r some ppl who have to be both father & mother to their children for those single parent...........so it's very hard to say who rule the world......i know currently i m not.......so why bother!??...... :D

Just b nice to everyone, treat everyone equal and remember that all of us have family to take care of.......then u will know what we seek to achieve is to have our world where everyone can live without envying the other fella............there's a Hokkien saying.......lu kua wa ho......wa kua lu ho......wah lang sama pun siang siang bo ho........(u see me living good.....i see u living good......all of us also same-same not living good)........ :D

U see that guy drive big expensive car.......it is his money so let him drive lar......anyway he himself have to pay so much every month for car installment...........while i only pay so little for my kancil.......and can have some $$$ for other entertainment and savings........so what's the moral of the story??......... :D :p

Take care of yourself first then only bother about others......have u all seen the paper the other day......one chekkai fella with no shirt and working his sweat but is a multi-millionaire........u can see him very rich......but his toil and hardwork is due to his own credit......not any welfare/kebajikan/windfall help him to become rich.......it is his own perseverance that makes him what he is.........like the saying.......u r what u eat........with input sure got output lar.........who's law is this......i remember i learn this in circuits n theory.......Kerchof's theory......or whatever his name....... :D

gnehkgnep
26-11-2005, 03:23 PM
wahhhh.......Pak lah is the new PM......so nice lar he......can b the Prime Minister.......so what?......he have to think of the headache created by 22 millions Malaysians and foreignors......and to solve the problems affecting all this Ali, Ah Lee and Alimaniam..........

Wahhhhhhhhh........my neighbour's daughter win the Miss Malaysia Model 2005........so what?........she have to parade to 22 millions viewers for free show........she have to face a group of kanasai judges.......and the pressure upon her to perform well....... ;)

WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.............the who is his name earn millions smuggling diesel..........one day earn RM30,000 cash.........i envy him so much lar.........
10 days later.........newspaper frontpage........a guy was caught smuggling diesel and being sentence to 10 yrs jail and a fine of RM100,000............
see see.......the idiot millionaire so stupid go and smuggle diesel.....serve him right masuk jail..........lucky i m not tempted to be involve as well......... :D

My summary.......It's Still A Kanasai's World!!! :D