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Dr. J George
27-10-2005, 03:05 AM
A CLOWN CALLED BADRUDDIN AMIRUDDIN IN PARLIAMENT!

In every circus you have a clowns and ‘jesters’ and thanks to the ‘political immaturity’ and “suspect selection process for political appointments” prevailing in Malaysia – we have one, in ‘Badruddin Amiruddin’ in Parliament! :rolleyes:

If such individuals and those who condone such behavior continue in political office – there will be further erosion in the ‘image and credibility’ of the multi racial Barisan Nasional government. :o

In the interest of inter party cordiality and fellowship – it is pertinent that Prime Minister and Barisan Nasional Chairman, YAB Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi removes such individuals from political office! ;)

Ski
27-10-2005, 07:49 AM
Who says our Parliament is not a circus..anyway who put the clowns there!!!

fedup
27-10-2005, 07:51 AM
high hopes of him being removed from parliament, this is a dato & an honourable (YAB) in M'sian representative. He is the cream of the cream of m'sians otherwise how does he get elected in the first place and that shows how low mentality the voters are. Mind you this is a reflection and represenattive of the m'sians unless you disagree with your govt. Is he in the one who called other citizens "pendatang" if you are not a "malay"? :p no wonder the indian muslim wanted to be called Malays :p :p

penangkia
27-10-2005, 08:39 AM
What circus, clowns, and jesters are you guys talking about ? The bolehland parliament is a zoo...please know how to differentiate the two.

Clowns and jesters are trained and talented individuals.... they earn a living helping people laugh, relax and be happy. Theirs is a very stress job as they must appear happy even when they are sad. So do not look lowly upon these professionals who slog hard for an honest living. ;)

A zoo is different. The inmates only eat, shiit and sleep and wait for the next hand-out. If they receive it a little late, they scream, beat their chest and make a bloody nuisance of themselves. The only reason many are there is to ensure that their kind won't face extinction and are given the freedom to behave like idiots and spoilt brats :(

Still in doubt ?... Make an appointment with Kapal Singh to learn more. :cool:

Ski
27-10-2005, 08:44 AM
Sorry mate you are very right, I did not want to be too harsh on the monkeys :D

penangkia
27-10-2005, 12:28 PM
Sorry mate you are very right, I did not want to be too harsh on the monkeys :D

No need to apologise. I am just speaking on behalf of my friend who was highly offended that monkeys in the pariament were mistaken for clowns who are highly talented and lovable people.

My friend happens to be a ranking member of the ACA ( Authentic Clowns' Association ) Don't play play :D

chin_wan
27-10-2005, 01:31 PM
A CLOWN CALLED BADRUDDIN AMIRUDDIN IN PARLIAMENT!

In every circus you have a clowns and ‘jesters’ and thanks to the ‘political immaturity’ and “suspect selection process for political appointments” prevailing in Malaysia – we have one, in ‘Badruddin Amiruddin’ in Parliament! :rolleyes:

If such individuals and those who condone such behavior continue in political office – there will be further erosion in the ‘image and credibility’ of the multi racial Barisan Nasional government. :o

In the interest of inter party cordiality and fellowship – it is pertinent that Prime Minister and Barisan Nasional Chairman, YAB Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi removes such individuals from political office! ;)

You call this man a clown and yet you provide no reference to support your claims. That's real mature. :rolleyes:

idolfan
27-10-2005, 01:55 PM
You call this man a clown and yet you provide no reference to support your claims. That's real mature. :rolleyes:

Any other suggestions on what to call "him" ?

chin_wan
27-10-2005, 02:14 PM
Let's start with En. BADRUDDIN AMIRUDDIN.

JackRyan1975
27-10-2005, 02:23 PM
Let's start with En. BADRUDDIN AMIRUDDIN.

Its rude of you to call him that. He is to be addressed as YB Datuk Badruddin Amiruldin. A tasteless joker nonetheless.

Unbelievable
27-10-2005, 02:46 PM
What a sorry state of affairs. Totally unbelievable and unacceptable!

Cloud
27-10-2005, 03:16 PM
Chin Wan,

What other info you want? All over media already lah, that this monkey insist on calling Indians "keling"... ayoh...

Ski
27-10-2005, 03:51 PM
Chin Wan,

What other info you want? All over media already lah, that this monkey insist on calling Indians "keling"... ayoh...
The Indians are not making a furore over this they already know that he is a buffoon its Lim Kit Siang who calling the shots for political mleage mah, some hypocrite!!!

GreenBug
27-10-2005, 04:00 PM
The Indians are not making a furore over this they already know that he is a bufoon its Lim Kit Siang who calling the shots for political mleage mah, some hypocrite!!!Whether LKS is reaping political mileage from the incident or not is immaterial here. The point is the clown used deragotory word to describe fellow Malaysians, now that need strong censure. Bear in mind, he is also the Deputy Permanent Chairman of ruling-party UMNO and he's aspiring to be advisor to the keris-wielding Youth Wing of the same party.

What is more damaging was that on the day he used the terms, there were busloads of schoolchildren in parliament's visiotrs gallery watching the proceeding.

That guy has to apologise to one and all Malaysians, resign gracefully and attend school at Primary 4 level again.... :mad:

JackRyan1975
27-10-2005, 04:00 PM
I doubt comments about him is confined to his remarks 2 days ago. He had been very controversial throughout, especially him telling other races to go back to their country of origin.

penangkia
27-10-2005, 04:23 PM
I doubt comments about him is confined to his remarks 2 days ago. He had been very controversial throughout, especially him telling other races to go back to their country of origin.

Well, when a person has no gray matter to debate or discuss serious and pertinent issues affecting the nation and it's citizens in parliament, he will just say anything to attract some media attention. The saddest part is he does'nt even realise he's making a fool of himself.
Nothing controversial about this monkey....just innocently and ignorantly talking cock.

Ski
27-10-2005, 04:27 PM
Lim Kit Siang survives on opportunities like this, its political mileage and nothing else. He depends for these sorts of controversial issues to garner his popularity with the races, we know him too well, otherwise he has no other issues, These are my views.
On the contrary I do still support him for fighting for social justice and fairness,corruption and the rest,

Unbelievable
27-10-2005, 04:30 PM
I second your thoughts ski. But calling someone kelling is still rude and uncalled for

Ski
27-10-2005, 04:37 PM
Who said no, we all know that, but lets us not think that we are Saints, pointing fingers at others when we ourselves are gulity too. Thats my point. We are equally guility.

penangkia
27-10-2005, 04:44 PM
Lim Kit Siang survives on opportunities like this, its political mileage and nothing else. He depends for these sorts of controversial issues to garner his popularity with the races, we know him too well, otherwise he has no other issues, These are my views.
On the contrary I do still support him for fighting for social justice and fairness,corruption and the rest,

LKS is not perfect and an opportunist.....he is also a politician, and an opposition leader at that... Let not forget that. At least, we now hear what the monkeys are doing and saying in parliament.
It is part of his job to expose the follies and idiotic display of majority power in parliament for the rakyat.
Then it's up to the people to decide again when it time to decide again.

JackRyan1975
27-10-2005, 04:45 PM
Who said no, we all know that, but lets us not think that we are Saints, pointing fingers at others when we ourselves are gulity too. Thats my point. We are equally guility.

There IS a difference. He's an elected rep speaking on behalf of his constituents in the august House and for that, he ought to present his views in a civil manner. He can call whatever names in his private chat but it's totally another when representing his people in the legislature. Let's not generalise where it calls to be specific.

Jaytea
27-10-2005, 04:50 PM
Nothing controversial about this monkey....just innocently and ignorantly talking cock.

But Badruddin said: “This is the fasting month. I don’t want to argue with people who don’t understand, who do not fast.”
taken from http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2005/10/26/parliament/12423717&sec=parliament

that was a very i-dunno-what-word-to-use reply.

does this mean that mean the non moslem community inclusive of all those in parliament be it from bn or otherwise are unworthy of anything?

such arrogance! cis!

his statement made all my moslem friends shake their heads.

GreenBug
27-10-2005, 04:52 PM
Lim Kit Siang survives on opportunities like this, its political mileage and nothing else. He depends for these sorts of controversial issues to garner his popularity with the races, we know him too well, otherwise he has no other issues, These are my views.Of course he does, all politicians in the opposition camp in countries where the media is state-controlled need to have vehicles to make their views know and LKS just seem to need to make noise to be heard. This is not only natural, it is expected.


On the contrary I do still support him for fighting for social justice and fairness,corruption and the rest,How do you think he could fight and win your support except by the ways he has done - quite successfully too, considering all the mainstream media are either owned or managed by entities that are connected to the ruling coalition.

BUT Badruddin is still a CLOWN, thats the issue and lets not digress.... :mad:

Ski
27-10-2005, 04:57 PM
There IS a difference. He's an elected rep speaking on behalf of his constituents in the august House and for that, he ought to present his views in a civil manner. He can call whatever names in his private chat but it's totally another when representing his people in the legislature. Let's not generalise where it calls to be specific.


Sure I will give him the benefit of doubt for his intentions in Parliament

GreenBug
27-10-2005, 05:01 PM
One time.... calling all non-Malays PENDATANG ..... could be a mistake!
Second time.... calling Indians 'Keling'..... another mistake?
C'mon, its more than an entrenched racist attitude to me.....
For a Member of Parliament to say such things, he must be censured.

gtl
27-10-2005, 05:34 PM
the guy maybe trying to seek "ATTENTION" but this is way wrong........

hingood
27-10-2005, 11:54 PM
When an MP objects and brings up matters like this one, he is labeled an opportunist. When he doesn't, he is a no-use politician.

I wonder if someone will say that his being ISA-detained is a sandiwara? :rolleyes:

USJ27Resident
28-10-2005, 01:49 AM
Chin Wan,

What other info you want? All over media already lah, that this monkey insist on calling Indians "keling"... ayoh...

Try going to the United States, the Bronx perhaps... and calling a black man there; a n****r, then say "hey... its ok because everyone in the Bronx refers a black man ( politically correct term would be African American! ) with the N word. Then see if he comes back in one piece or his bolas stuffed in his throat! :mad:

Then as if to cover or vindicate himself, the so called YB ( does this stand for "yang bodoh" ??? :confused: ) has the said that indians are referred as the term he mentioned in the Northern states.... what kind of idiot would say this in the parliament is beyond me.

... thank goodness tupai is referred here as YAB and not YB :p

Another thing - how come the Indian BN MPs, especially good old SV never bising :confused: ... or issit SV said to the rest of the Indian MPs - "shaddap you all... no need to komen... Deepavali no need to invite this badawa to our homes... teriummm..." :p

Voter
28-10-2005, 08:55 AM
From the blog. It aptly defines most of the inhabitants known as "politicians" in the Zoos called Parliament and Dewan Undangan Negeri.


Five surgeons are discussing who has the best patients to operate on.

The first surgeon says, "I like to see accountants on my operating table because when you open them up, everything inside is numbered."

The second responds, "Yeah, but you should try electricians! Everything inside them is color coded."

The third surgeon says, "No, I really think librarians are the best; everything inside them is in alphabetical order."

The fourth surgeon chimes in: "You know, I like construction workers. Those guys always understand when you have a few parts left over at the end, and when the job takes longer than you said it would."

But the fifth surgeon shut them all up when he observed: "You're all wrong. Politicians are the easiest to operate on. There's no guts, no heart, no balls, no brains and no spine, and the head and the ass are interchangeable[/COLOR]."

hudson chia
28-10-2005, 09:57 AM
Why is everybody giving him the attention? There are so many respecatable humble malay friends around where we can visit them during this raya season.

Ignore him and you will feel better. Frankly, I can't even spell his name. Happy Raya celebrations to all our malay and muslim foromners. Ma af Zahir Batin.

hudson chia
28-10-2005, 10:07 AM
Happy Deepavali to all our indian forumers as well

Ski
28-10-2005, 10:08 AM
Why is everybody giving him the attention? There are so many respecatable humble malay friends around where we can visit them during this raya season.

Ignore him and you will feel better. Frankly, I can't even spell his name. Happy Raya celebrations to all our malay and muslim foromners. Ma af Zahir Batin.

What a joyous way to join the forum with a positive outlook.Welcome aboard :)

Cheerz

hudson chia
28-10-2005, 10:27 AM
Ski, Thanks, but I have been around under the post name of CHIA HAK SOON. Some how I forgot my password and could not post ,so now post under hudson chia lah, which is my christian name. Glad to be back, maybe after the 64 CT Slice, the forum administrator pick one of the slice. But I am still the same. Happy holidays.

penangkia
28-10-2005, 11:41 AM
Hudson Chia Hak Soon. Finally you are back. What the hell happen to your password...pass the word to someone else? :D

Happy Depavali to you too. :)

hudson chia
28-10-2005, 12:35 PM
Penangkia, too much alcohol tak boleh remember loh. Tks yr message.

chin_wan
28-10-2005, 12:53 PM
Chin Wan,

What other info you want? All over media already lah, that this monkey insist on calling Indians "keling"... ayoh...

I am not saying I like that guy but at least put some reference about him before calling him names. Not everyone knows the going on in Malaysia.

Here's a scenario. Let's say an expat from London is looking to for a place to live in Malaysia cause his company is sending him to KL for 2 years. He heard of USJ and is considering moving here. So he checked out www.usj.com.my forum. To his surprise, the first thread he reads is some guy calling our MP names but there were no reference on why this MP was called a "clown".

Is this the first impression you want to give the world about USJ?

JackRyan1975
28-10-2005, 01:04 PM
I am not saying I like that guy but at least put some reference about him before calling him names. Not everyone knows the going on in Malaysia.

Here's a scenario. Let's say an expat from London is looking to for a place to live in Malaysia cause his company is sending him to KL for 2 years. He heard of USJ and is considering moving here. So he checked out www.usj.com.my forum. To his surprise, the first thread he reads is some guy calling our MP names but there were no reference on why this MP was called a "clown".

Is this the first impression you want to give the world about USJ?

chin_wan,

Perhaps forummers here are not up to your level of academic excellence and may know little about proper referencing. Would you like to lead the way with your research (with proper referencing, of course) on "Reasons why Badruddin Amiruldin Should Not be Called a Clown"?

Hopefully that will bring up the reputation of this forum for the world over as you would like to happen.

I do hope to learn from you.

Dr. J George
28-10-2005, 01:14 PM
I AM TOLD THAT POLICE REPORT LODGED AND BURNING EFFIGY NEXT WEEK! SIGNATURE CAMPAIGN ALSO TO START! :D


BUT THIS IS FROM THE MALAYSIAKINI REPORT YESTERDAY! :)

A police report has been lodged against the member of Parliament for Jerai Badruddin Amiruldin for using a derogatory term to refer to the Indian community when speaking in Parliament.

The report was lodged by DAP Labour Bureau chief A Sivanesan at the Brickfields police station in Kuala Lumpur.

Ipoh Barat MP M Kulasegaran, who was present at the police station, said that Badruddin had infringed Parliament’s Standing Orders 36 (10)(c) under which words likely to promote feelings of ill-will or hostility among communities are not granted any form of immunity from sedition laws.

On Tuesday, Badruddin uttered the word keling during the 2006 Budget debate, causing a ruckus in the Lower House. He later retracted the word, but not before claiming it was the colloquial term for Indians in northen states.

“This is why the DAP wants live telecasts of parliamentary sessions. He has insulted the entire Indian community and this issue must be strictly looked into,” said Kulasegaran.

Repeat offender

The DAP is also demanding that Badruddin makes a public apology over the remark within a week.

If Badruddin fails to comply, Indian DAP members in Negeri Sembilan will burn an effigy of the maverick MP next Sunday in Seremban to show that their tolerance is wearing thin, said Sivanesan.

A similar outburst by Badruddin took place in 1998 during a parliamentary debate when he explicitly referred to Kulasegaran, then Teluk Intan MP, as keling.

“Teluk Intan, what are you laughing at? Ama, apa, keling, keling, keling,” said Badruddin according to the April 21, 1998 hansard.

Human rights lawyer P Uthayakumar, who was also present at the police station today, said he was surprised that Deputy Prime Minister Najib Abdul Razak, who is chief parliamentary whip, allowed such behaviour among his MPs.

“BN is suppose to reflect all communities, but Badruddin’s antics reflect badly on the BN government,” he said.

Also present during at the police station was Bukit Mertajam MP Chong Eng and Selangor DAP chief Ong Chee Keng.

GreenBug
28-10-2005, 02:06 PM
Errrr.... my dear Dr Jacob, why are those folks down at Seremban burning an effigy? Isn't this joker MP still alive and kicking? Why waste time and money on making an effigy? :D

trifecta
28-10-2005, 11:51 PM
chin_wan,

Perhaps forummers here are not up to your level of academic excellence and may know little about proper referencing. Would you like to lead the way with your research (with proper referencing, of course) on "Reasons why Badruddin Amiruldin Should Not be Called a Clown"?

Hopefully that will bring up the reputation of this forum for the world over as you would like to happen.

I do hope to learn from you.

Funny, first an articulate reply to Ski (a forum regular who disagreed with you) and then this (to a newbie who isnt even spamming btw who *shock* disagreed with you as well :eek: ) Reminds me of a certain person http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/e4/Don_King.jpg.

USJ27Resident
29-10-2005, 12:37 AM
Errrr.... my dear Dr Jacob, why are those folks down at Seremban burning an effigy? Isn't this joker MP still alive and kicking? Why waste time and money on making an effigy? :D

Burning at the stake!!! Phuiiiooh!

Now politicians are also witches... hmmm... good way to the start of Halloween... cud also be new attraction for tourist... :p

Dr. J George
29-10-2005, 01:16 AM
burning of an effigy....I really do not know why Saudara, but....perhaps it is a manner of a 'loud protest' where a subtle message is delivered "to certain quarters" not to take anything for granted just because the marginalised minorities have so far been silent? ;)

Dr. J George
29-10-2005, 01:22 AM
But this is what I said in my blog at http://www.drjacobgeorge.com/

BADRUDDIN SHOULD RESIGN OR BE SACKED FOR RACIST REMARK!

The continued arrogance and racists utterances of one Badruddin Amiruldin (BN-Jerai) in Parliament continues to draw flak from Malaysians of all races and religions based on the opinion pages of several electronic forums nationally and internationally!

Of course, the mainstream newspapers ‘managed opinion pages’ have no trace of this issue for reasons best known to their tunneled vision!

But the fact remains, that this arrogant man’s latest utterances calling Malaysian Indians ‘keling’ has now draw international media watch and attention on Malaysia again, for the wrong reasons!

The last one being when there was an incident where a member of the Johor royal family led a group of rowdy gatecrashers to an idyllic wedding planned on Rawa island, off Johor by two Brazilians which ended in a violent brawl.

The event has indeed brought great shame and disgrace to Malaysia in the eyes of tourists from Australia, Brazil, Canada, Europe, Japan, and Singapore and added a ‘new hurdles’ in the nation’s quest for the ‘rule of law!’

The latest racial slur uttered by this Barisan Nasional MP and UMNO Deputy Speaker a seasoned politician who comes from Kedah where Indians have served the state with distinction, especially in the plantation sector cannot be tolerated and has indeed embarrassed the nation and the political leadership of Premier Abdullah Ahmad Badawi and all that he stands for in the eyes of the world!

I am also indeed embarrassed that any Indian MP in the August house did not react to this racist remark!

Perhaps, they were more interested in their personal political futures rather than that of the community they continue to preach the world over that they represent in Parliament and country!

There cannot be double standards in Parliament and by the ruling government.

If the Malaysian government is against racism and such irresponsible behavior - the time is now for the government and all Barisan Nasional members to distance themselves from this racist slur and demand the immediate resignation of Badruddin Amiruldin (BN-Jerai) from all political and government posts! :cool:

I am also saddened that this incident has happened during the holy Ramadhan period, which focuses on self-control, tolerance, contemplation, meditation and prayers (fasting, terawih, giamulail) and as such if there is any honor left in him, Badruddin Amiruldin should resign from all political and government appointment and free the nation from further blushes!

Failing which I am certain that the weeks forthcoming will see many more police reports made against this individual which may culminate in a national drive to collect signatures to be handed over to Premier Abdullah to immediately remove this man from all party and government posts! ;)

Ski
29-10-2005, 09:06 AM
This issue has become a political issue rater than domestic one, an unseen agenda, Lets us we Malaysians celeberate this joint festival with a Muhibbah Spirit, and forget politics fo awhile. :)

JackRyan1975
29-10-2005, 09:56 AM
The DAP has already lodged a police report against the clown. We'll just see if it will bear any fruit....till we forget the whole incident that is. :D

uchangeng
29-10-2005, 10:04 AM
The typical racist behaviour of the UMNO MP signifies the communal outlook of the political party. The racist mentalitity reflect the poor upbringing and phycological flaw of the individual.

If this trend continue, our nation's future is at best bleak. Do we want communal politikus leaders that thrive on racial sentiment, preach on racist platform? I am sure the answer is obvious for many of us here, but NOT so to those blinded by years of propaganda of fear. This explains why racist like this MP from somewhere Kedah continue to enjoy support in the "kampung".

Dr. J George
29-10-2005, 01:41 PM
Saudara you are right on target! Exactly the feeling among the majority I had spoken to this morning which at the least is alarming! :(

I had thought racism had gone out with 'South Afrikaa' but sorry lah, certain quarters in Malaysia have given it "new blood!" :o

If our beloved YAM Tunku Abdul Rahman ( GOD BLESS HIS SOUL!) was around - this 'Bada' fellas would be 'pecat from all posts and party!' :rolleyes:

GreenBug
29-10-2005, 01:44 PM
The typical racist behaviour of the UMNO MP signifies the communal outlook of the political party. The racist mentality reflects the poor upbringing and phycological flaw of the individual.
If this trend continue, our nation's future is at best bleak. Do we want communal politikus leaders that thrive on racial sentiment, preach on racist platform?To be fair, the majority are okay, just a few leaders flawed. Unfortunately, it is these flawed ones that get all the attention for the wrong reason - especially that one (can't recall his name lah) who waved a keris panjang couple of months ago.... not so smart chap lah! :D

Dr. J George
29-10-2005, 01:56 PM
True what GreenBug says :) - several have spoken to me over the last few days completely distancing themselves from this moron, but, just that they do not have the 'political guts and conviction' to come out and say so fearing "political reprisal?". ;)

Dr. J George
31-10-2005, 02:49 PM
As I indicated this time things are really gonna get rough on this fella!
Check out this report!

BERNAMA NEWS!

Keling: Apim Lodges Police Report Against Jerai MP ;)

KUALA LUMPUR, Oct 30 (Bernama) -- The Federal Territory and Selangor Indian Muslim Front (Apim) lodged a police report against Jerai Member of Parliament Datuk Badruddin Amiruldin Sunday for referring to Indians as "Keling" in the Dewan Rakyat recently.

Apim chairman Ramli Abdullah lodged the report at the Dang Wangi district police headquarters at 11.17am.

He said Badruddin should make a public apology to Malaysians, especially the Indian community, for using such a derogatory term in the Dewan on Tuesday.

The "keling" issue arose when Badruddin's choice of words led to a quarrel with other MPs and he told them that "keling" was used by northerners to refer to Indians. He later retracted his remark.

Ramli said Badruddin should be aware that Apim had an ongoing suit against Dewan Bahasa dan Pustaka (DBP) over the term "Keling" published in the third edition of DBP's dictionary.

Present were other key officials of Apim and the Malaysian Indian Youth Council.

Apim - Well done! :D

balitan
31-10-2005, 04:44 PM
surprised why people from the same tribe in m_c did not utter a word
maybe bro _am has already WARNED them to shut up !!!!!!!!!!

very sad that mulut kena tutup even when they are being made fun of
by some bigot YB

gtl
31-10-2005, 05:10 PM
semi value also cannot say a word, what to do in the spirit of barisan nasional. i think that's crap.